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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 3:40 PM ET #926

    Quote Originally Posted by err:

    There is too many pages... can you please restate what is your typical ''expiry'' time is it hour, end of the day etc also when you post your signals is it seconds after your placed your trades or it in advances, later etc.
    There is no "typical" expiry time. Some are end of the day and some are shorter term. The time EST (NYC). PM me and I will explain you in detail how to follow precisely
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    Quote Originally Posted by err:

    There is too many pages... can you please restate what is your typical ''expiry'' time is it hour, end of the day etc also when you post your signals is it seconds after your placed your trades or it in advances, later etc.
    There is no "typical" expiry time. Some are end of the day and some are shorter term. The time EST (NYC). PM me and I will explain you in detail how to follow precisely
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 3:48 PM ET #927

    770340$ 5,000.00NASDAQ22:46 29/05/133,471.370 23:00 29/05/13

    call    expiry est 16:00
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    770340$ 5,000.00NASDAQ22:46 29/05/133,471.370 23:00 29/05/13

    call    expiry est 16:00
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 3:53 PM ET #928

    770349$ 5,000.00NASDAQ22:51 29/05/133,469.497 23:00 29/05/13
    call same expiry time
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    770349$ 5,000.00NASDAQ22:51 29/05/133,469.497 23:00 29/05/13
    call same expiry time
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 4:06 PM ET #929

    I am sorry you lost both trades Phixer - but please  - next time do not post here such short term and such big sum trades. I hope no one had a time to follow you. Your participation in a competition on Optionrally and your losses is your business buddy, but why drag others with you? 
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    I am sorry you lost both trades Phixer - but please  - next time do not post here such short term and such big sum trades. I hope no one had a time to follow you. Your participation in a competition on Optionrally and your losses is your business buddy, but why drag others with you? 
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 4:29 PM ET #930

    i won 6550 in last two daya and lost today 9800. all we're talking about are 3+ k. no big deal but as you are mavin and i respect you - i'll better shut up
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    i won 6550 in last two daya and lost today 9800. all we're talking about are 3+ k. no big deal but as you are mavin and i respect you - i'll better shut up
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 8:29 PM ET #931

    Ok, after chatting with phixer for more than hour on skype - here is how I make my trades: I pick 2-3 favorable trades and have them on ready. When I see that the time is right - I take a position and in case one trade fails (like today - by the slightest of margin) I enter the second. For me the second trade like today must answer the criteria even higher than the first one and therefore it was for 4.5 K. And it won by a big margin. I don't chase and only in case I know that the trend is holding for the whole day I keep pounding with short intervals like with USD/JPY and EUR/USD recently as well as Gold. I do consider myself responsible enough to have the followers and make money for all of us in a steady fashion. No opportunism involved. Takung an advantage of opportunity is different from opportunism. I made it clear to phixer and he agreed with me that posting picks for followers requires way much more responsibility than trading by yourself. There are much more involved but the step by step is a best way to keep the risk at low.
    I concvinced Optionrally to open its gates to US traders as well as to lower the juice (from next week) as I am convinced that the place I trade at should be the best and they are the best even in that that they are listening and cooperating with their clients.
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    Ok, after chatting with phixer for more than hour on skype - here is how I make my trades: I pick 2-3 favorable trades and have them on ready. When I see that the time is right - I take a position and in case one trade fails (like today - by the slightest of margin) I enter the second. For me the second trade like today must answer the criteria even higher than the first one and therefore it was for 4.5 K. And it won by a big margin. I don't chase and only in case I know that the trend is holding for the whole day I keep pounding with short intervals like with USD/JPY and EUR/USD recently as well as Gold. I do consider myself responsible enough to have the followers and make money for all of us in a steady fashion. No opportunism involved. Takung an advantage of opportunity is different from opportunism. I made it clear to phixer and he agreed with me that posting picks for followers requires way much more responsibility than trading by yourself. There are much more involved but the step by step is a best way to keep the risk at low.
    I concvinced Optionrally to open its gates to US traders as well as to lower the juice (from next week) as I am convinced that the place I trade at should be the best and they are the best even in that that they are listening and cooperating with their clients.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 8:38 PM ET #932

    Contest Standings

    SportsMavin       31-23   +11,235$
        (1 trade pending May 31 2013)

    Austrian              5-0    +1855$ 

    Zeppelinkevin     1-0     +365$

    MaxiMILLION      1-1    -1050$

    phixer                  5-3    -3510$ 

    43-27     +8895$
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    Contest Standings

    SportsMavin       31-23   +11,235$
        (1 trade pending May 31 2013)

    Austrian              5-0    +1855$ 

    Zeppelinkevin     1-0     +365$

    MaxiMILLION      1-1    -1050$

    phixer                  5-3    -3510$ 

    43-27     +8895$
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 8:39 PM ET #933

    phixer lost 9600$ (had 200$ returns on each of his two 5k losing trades according to our chat)
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    phixer lost 9600$ (had 200$ returns on each of his two 5k losing trades according to our chat)
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 8:40 PM ET #934

    My personal record since posting binary signals:

    70-49

    + 20,442 $
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    My personal record since posting binary signals:

    70-49

    + 20,442 $
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 9:07 PM ET #935

    mavin, with respect - i opened my own thread for the picks and as much as it might seem crazy to you - i am going to do it in the only way i know - "phixing"
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    mavin, with respect - i opened my own thread for the picks and as much as it might seem crazy to you - i am going to do it in the only way i know - "phixing"
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 9:10 PM ET #936

    770509 $ 5,000.00 USD/JPY 3:59 30/05/13 101.283   4:30 30/05/13
    770508 $ 5,000.00 USD/JPY 3:57 30/05/13 101.311   4:30 30/05/13
    770506 $ 5,000.00 USD/JPY 3:56 30/05/13 101.353   4:30 30/05/13

    you can enter it or not, follow or not - but those are my trades
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    770509 $ 5,000.00 USD/JPY 3:59 30/05/13 101.283   4:30 30/05/13
    770508 $ 5,000.00 USD/JPY 3:57 30/05/13 101.311   4:30 30/05/13
    770506 $ 5,000.00 USD/JPY 3:56 30/05/13 101.353   4:30 30/05/13

    you can enter it or not, follow or not - but those are my trades
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 9:14 PM ET #937

    i wont let you down and ruin a trading day, besides optionrallys 20k contest is important to win on a principal bases and i know some saudi dude is leading it right now. they wont tell me the name but that i am not in the picture right now, well wait and see. irt is only 16 minutes from now the expiry
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    i wont let you down and ruin a trading day, besides optionrallys 20k contest is important to win on a principal bases and i know some saudi dude is leading it right now. they wont tell me the name but that i am not in the picture right now, well wait and see. irt is only 16 minutes from now the expiry
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 9:36 PM ET #938

    stay in your thread phixer. your picks are not welcome here until you will regain your sanity. i am serious. nobody here cares about your picks now
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    stay in your thread phixer. your picks are not welcome here until you will regain your sanity. i am serious. nobody here cares about your picks now
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 9:42 PM ET #939

    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    i wont let you down and ruin a trading day, besides optionrallys 20k contest is important to win on a principal bases and i know some saudi dude is leading it right now. they wont tell me the name but that i am not in the picture right now, well wait and see. irt is only 16 minutes from now the expiry
    What are you on drugs? What happened to phixer we all knew - one who ambushes the right bets and trades? Dont skype me and dont email me until you will regain your sanity. You chat with me and say one thing and then do the other? stop trading as of now - my suggestion. Calm and come down and count your losses like a man and deal with your issues. Get back to yourself!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    i wont let you down and ruin a trading day, besides optionrallys 20k contest is important to win on a principal bases and i know some saudi dude is leading it right now. they wont tell me the name but that i am not in the picture right now, well wait and see. irt is only 16 minutes from now the expiry
    What are you on drugs? What happened to phixer we all knew - one who ambushes the right bets and trades? Dont skype me and dont email me until you will regain your sanity. You chat with me and say one thing and then do the other? stop trading as of now - my suggestion. Calm and come down and count your losses like a man and deal with your issues. Get back to yourself!!!!
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 10:01 PM ET #940

    770539$ 2,000.00EUR/USD22:00 29/05/131.29593 22:30 29/05/13

    CALL
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    770539$ 2,000.00EUR/USD22:00 29/05/131.29593 22:30 29/05/13

    CALL
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2013 - 10:12 PM ET #941

    770555$ 2,000.00EUR/USD22:11 29/05/131.29621 22:30 29/05/13

    PUT  Middling
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    770555$ 2,000.00EUR/USD22:11 29/05/131.29621 22:30 29/05/13

    PUT  Middling
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2013 - 6:59 AM ET #942

    i am sorry mavin. shoulda listened to your advises. i lost 18k last night due to my uncontrollable urge and that is something i have to work on. and you right that my position with nba obligates ne to be more selective of what i post as many are following me. from now on until i regain my composure - i only follow you 
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    i am sorry mavin. shoulda listened to your advises. i lost 18k last night due to my uncontrollable urge and that is something i have to work on. and you right that my position with nba obligates ne to be more selective of what i post as many are following me. from now on until i regain my composure - i only follow you 
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2013 - 10:32 AM ET #943

    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    i am sorry mavin. shoulda listened to your advises. i lost 18k last night due to my uncontrollable urge and that is something i have to work on. and you right that my position with nba obligates ne to be more selective of what i post as many are following me. from now on until i regain my composure - i only follow you 

    Don't know your finance background phixer but I have been in the markets for over 10 years and I can tell you that this happens from time to time. The key to the markets is being hedged. The markets are no longer what they used to be, it used to be a place were inside info. and big money ruled it all. Now it has become the place of the machines, maybe that is what Terminator was about, not physical harm but financial destruction. That being said every play should have a counter play. While there are bubbles here and there and abuse by big money as in the past, technical trading is where I have found success in the markets. Until recently where I have seem more inflow from mom and pop investors through mutual funds and the sort- most of the volume is created by algo trading programs that want to skim a penny or two a share and they do it very well I might add. I have not applied my technical trading background to binaries yet but when I do I will be sure to join Mavins thread. It will most likely be for end of day or end of week trades as patterns take a while to develop and even a week can be a short time.

    I think you should take a deep breath focus, get back on that horse but only after you are ready and go get em. I can't tell you what to do in sports we all know what you are capable and are able to wipe the floor with all of us. My 2 cents of advice which may not mean much is to do be more nimble in the markets because unlike sports there is def long term potential day in day out. In sports trends change on the fly. I used to trade currencies but realized it was just to volatile and to high margin. Maybe to get back you should try the Indexes and Individual stocks. I have noticed that in sports we need to try and chill a bit after a hot run, because we will not win them all and pick our spots. In the markets trends hold for longer, not sure in binaries but the AAPL short trade/trend since late last year is still working with a few opportunities to hedge on the way up. The same goes for the FB trend on the way up, although it is losing some steam.

    I have thought about starting a thread to discuss stocks and standardized options but find it hard to devote the proper time needed to do this. After the NBA I should be able to do that as I prob. wont be in sports until September.

    Best of luck go get em 
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    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    i am sorry mavin. shoulda listened to your advises. i lost 18k last night due to my uncontrollable urge and that is something i have to work on. and you right that my position with nba obligates ne to be more selective of what i post as many are following me. from now on until i regain my composure - i only follow you 

    Don't know your finance background phixer but I have been in the markets for over 10 years and I can tell you that this happens from time to time. The key to the markets is being hedged. The markets are no longer what they used to be, it used to be a place were inside info. and big money ruled it all. Now it has become the place of the machines, maybe that is what Terminator was about, not physical harm but financial destruction. That being said every play should have a counter play. While there are bubbles here and there and abuse by big money as in the past, technical trading is where I have found success in the markets. Until recently where I have seem more inflow from mom and pop investors through mutual funds and the sort- most of the volume is created by algo trading programs that want to skim a penny or two a share and they do it very well I might add. I have not applied my technical trading background to binaries yet but when I do I will be sure to join Mavins thread. It will most likely be for end of day or end of week trades as patterns take a while to develop and even a week can be a short time.

    I think you should take a deep breath focus, get back on that horse but only after you are ready and go get em. I can't tell you what to do in sports we all know what you are capable and are able to wipe the floor with all of us. My 2 cents of advice which may not mean much is to do be more nimble in the markets because unlike sports there is def long term potential day in day out. In sports trends change on the fly. I used to trade currencies but realized it was just to volatile and to high margin. Maybe to get back you should try the Indexes and Individual stocks. I have noticed that in sports we need to try and chill a bit after a hot run, because we will not win them all and pick our spots. In the markets trends hold for longer, not sure in binaries but the AAPL short trade/trend since late last year is still working with a few opportunities to hedge on the way up. The same goes for the FB trend on the way up, although it is losing some steam.

    I have thought about starting a thread to discuss stocks and standardized options but find it hard to devote the proper time needed to do this. After the NBA I should be able to do that as I prob. wont be in sports until September.

    Best of luck go get em 
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2013 - 12:00 PM ET #944

    772178$ 1,000.00GOLD11:58 30/05/131,412.895 15:00 30/05/13
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    Posted: May. 30, 2013 - 12:18 PM ET #945

    772242$ 4,500.00OIL12:17 30/05/1393.7450 12:30 30/05/13
    CALL very short
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    772242$ 4,500.00OIL12:17 30/05/1393.7450 12:30 30/05/13
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    Posted: May. 30, 2013 - 12:21 PM ET #946

    772248$ 4,500.00OIL12:21 30/05/1393.6850 16:00 30/05/13
    CALL
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    Posted: May. 30, 2013 - 2:42 PM ET #947

    772516$ 2,000.00S&P 50014:41 30/05/131,660.809 16:00 30/05/13

    PUT
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    772516$ 2,000.00S&P 50014:41 30/05/131,660.809 16:00 30/05/13

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    Posted: May. 30, 2013 - 2:51 PM ET #948

    772532$ 2,000.00S&P 50014:50 30/05/131,660.850 16:00 30/05/13

    PUT
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    PUT
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2013 - 3:09 PM ET #949

    772572$ 2,000.00S&P 50015:07 30/05/131,660.720 15:30 30/05/13

    Call, Partly Middling
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    Call, Partly Middling
     
     
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    772570$ 2,000.00OIL15:07 30/05/1393.7400 16:00 30/05/13
    Partly Middling PUT
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    772570$ 2,000.00OIL15:07 30/05/1393.7400 16:00 30/05/13
    Partly Middling PUT
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