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    jaxwhitey
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2008 - 1:52 PM ET #101

    JPM to buy WM????

    I guess if LEH hits $2 then Jamie Diamond will be interested in them as well, seems to be his favorite price.
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    JPM to buy WM????

    I guess if LEH hits $2 then Jamie Diamond will be interested in them as well, seems to be his favorite price.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2008 - 2:28 PM ET #102

    I dont think anyone will be comfortable holding leh or wm or the weekend.

    the Gov seems to work alot of weekends this year.
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    I dont think anyone will be comfortable holding leh or wm or the weekend.

    the Gov seems to work alot of weekends this year.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2008 - 3:23 PM ET #103

    I wonder if the gov't is going to have to step back in with regards to shorting these financials again.

    LEH, WM, AIG and MER have all hemorrhaged value in the last few weeks and there is no end in sight, outside of them being snapped up for cents on the dollar.
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    I wonder if the gov't is going to have to step back in with regards to shorting these financials again.

    LEH, WM, AIG and MER have all hemorrhaged value in the last few weeks and there is no end in sight, outside of them being snapped up for cents on the dollar.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2008 - 3:39 PM ET #104

    LEH bleeding, down another buck today..hitting lows right now.

    WM also going lower.

    I see no value in stepping in front of these train wrecks.  
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    LEH bleeding, down another buck today..hitting lows right now.

    WM also going lower.

    I see no value in stepping in front of these train wrecks.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2008 - 12:33 AM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwhitey:



    Gold is an inflation play.  Commodities have dropped like rocks and the dollar has strengthened so inflation fears have lessened.

    Unless commodities start a meaningful rebound and/or the dollar heads south again, I wouldn't touch it.

    Thanks for the feedback. I bought ABX.TO yesterday and sold it today for a quick 8% gain (could of had 12% if I held it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwhitey:



    Gold is an inflation play.  Commodities have dropped like rocks and the dollar has strengthened so inflation fears have lessened.

    Unless commodities start a meaningful rebound and/or the dollar heads south again, I wouldn't touch it.

    Thanks for the feedback. I bought ABX.TO yesterday and sold it today for a quick 8% gain (could of had 12% if I held it).

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2008 - 1:22 AM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwhitey:

    CNBC is implying there might be a rate cut this weekend?????

    If thats true then its back to the commodities/metals for a run on top of todays pop, inflation comes back into play and there will be no skiing in the Alps this winter for me.   

    CNBC is full of crap, man.  Don't listen to what those fools say.  If there is any emergency rate move this weekend, it ought to be a rate increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwhitey:

    CNBC is implying there might be a rate cut this weekend?????

    If thats true then its back to the commodities/metals for a run on top of todays pop, inflation comes back into play and there will be no skiing in the Alps this winter for me.   

    CNBC is full of crap, man.  Don't listen to what those fools say.  If there is any emergency rate move this weekend, it ought to be a rate increase.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2008 - 11:43 AM ET #107

    Was told buy some LEH insiders tonight (Saturday night) a buyout was in the makings (imminent?). Two banks were vying for buying rights - Barclays was one of them and damned if I forget the other one he mentioned.
     
    I don't hold any of the stocks above and dont work anywhere near the financial/banking industry.
     
    FYI only...
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    Was told buy some LEH insiders tonight (Saturday night) a buyout was in the makings (imminent?). Two banks were vying for buying rights - Barclays was one of them and damned if I forget the other one he mentioned.
     
    I don't hold any of the stocks above and dont work anywhere near the financial/banking industry.
     
    FYI only...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2008 - 1:09 PM ET #108

    - buy
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    - buy
    + by
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2008 - 1:30 PM ET #109

    jamheat,

    More than likely LEH will get carved up, with the pieces going here and there and everywhere which means the common LEH shareholder will get a swift kick in the pants and very little in their pocketbook.

    These kind of "sunday" deals are never good for the common holder..the company is scrambling to get this done which means they are probably very low on cash and might be facing some margin calls and cannot cover them..

    I wouldnt be shocked if LEH goes for a buck or two and nothing more.
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    jamheat,

    More than likely LEH will get carved up, with the pieces going here and there and everywhere which means the common LEH shareholder will get a swift kick in the pants and very little in their pocketbook.

    These kind of "sunday" deals are never good for the common holder..the company is scrambling to get this done which means they are probably very low on cash and might be facing some margin calls and cannot cover them..

    I wouldnt be shocked if LEH goes for a buck or two and nothing more.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 12:58 PM ET #110

    Interesting LEH article today-

    LINK

    Looks like they will carve up the assets which means the common shareholder will get pretty much nothing. No way these larger banks will pay a premium for the good assets and if the government does agree to step in I am quite sure that any excess in equity from the purchase of good assets will be held against the bad assets, as it should.


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    Interesting LEH article today-

    LINK

    Looks like they will carve up the assets which means the common shareholder will get pretty much nothing. No way these larger banks will pay a premium for the good assets and if the government does agree to step in I am quite sure that any excess in equity from the purchase of good assets will be held against the bad assets, as it should.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 4:17 PM ET #111

    Looks like BAC doesn't want any part of LEH.

    But they are looking at MER??????

    Wall Street has become one big soap opera
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    Looks like BAC doesn't want any part of LEH.

    But they are looking at MER??????

    Wall Street has become one big soap opera
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 7:22 PM ET #112

    I am not seeing a deal being done on LEH yet, if they open it monday without a deal I have to think it opens at a buck or lower.

    If BAC buys MER at a discount to current price I am changing my view on the stock and say it is a big winner and a buy. Now if they give a premium to current price, I am less inclined.
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    I am not seeing a deal being done on LEH yet, if they open it monday without a deal I have to think it opens at a buck or lower.

    If BAC buys MER at a discount to current price I am changing my view on the stock and say it is a big winner and a buy. Now if they give a premium to current price, I am less inclined.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 7:58 PM ET #113

    If LEH isn't bought out, then guess who'll "buy" it?  Yep, the taxpayer......you and I.
     
    Hell YES
    How FABULOUS
     
    And, the SP500 will open down tomorrow by about 50 points.
     
    How close are we mercifully to 0.00 on the SP?
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    If LEH isn't bought out, then guess who'll "buy" it?  Yep, the taxpayer......you and I.
     
    Hell YES
    How FABULOUS
     
    And, the SP500 will open down tomorrow by about 50 points.
     
    How close are we mercifully to 0.00 on the SP?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 8:31 PM ET #114

    i hear...BAC buys MER for $29 a share (way overpriced IMO) but these are the same idiots who bought CFC for 18 (source is my brother and i dont know where he heard that)

    and LEH is done...they let swap and credit traders net out their open trades today to settle the books before tomorrow's open

    clay LEH just goes away...they carve the assets like wall said and someone will take over their prime brokerage interests and keep counterparty/client money safe

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    i hear...BAC buys MER for $29 a share (way overpriced IMO) but these are the same idiots who bought CFC for 18 (source is my brother and i dont know where he heard that)

    and LEH is done...they let swap and credit traders net out their open trades today to settle the books before tomorrow's open

    clay LEH just goes away...they carve the assets like wall said and someone will take over their prime brokerage interests and keep counterparty/client money safe

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 8:34 PM ET #115

    Koaj,

    Can BAC be that stupid?

    A 12 buck premium when the market is selling the hell out of the common?

    Stupid is putting it lightly.
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    Koaj,

    Can BAC be that stupid?

    A 12 buck premium when the market is selling the hell out of the common?

    Stupid is putting it lightly.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 9:16 PM ET #116

    Time to short BAC.

    Hope you guys bought some DGP and PMPIX.

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    Time to short BAC.

    Hope you guys bought some DGP and PMPIX.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 9:44 PM ET #117

    MER/BAC deal

    Stupid move by BAC, nothing better than throwing 18B to Merrill when they could have waited and probably got it for under 10 a share.

    BAC made a mistake with CFC and another one here.


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    MER/BAC deal

    Stupid move by BAC, nothing better than throwing 18B to Merrill when they could have waited and probably got it for under 10 a share.

    BAC made a mistake with CFC and another one here.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 9:59 PM ET #118

    BAC
     
    I had a post in here somewhere saying that BAC was going to be the "go to" financial for any funds that wanted financial exposure.
     
     
    How can any reputable company pay a 9 buck premium for total garbage?
     
    Looks like JPM is the answer rather than BAC.....maybe.
     
    Warlords and fiefdoms.......here we come.
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    BAC
     
    I had a post in here somewhere saying that BAC was going to be the "go to" financial for any funds that wanted financial exposure.
     
     
    How can any reputable company pay a 9 buck premium for total garbage?
     
    Looks like JPM is the answer rather than BAC.....maybe.
     
    Warlords and fiefdoms.......here we come.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 10:20 PM ET #119

    how would you like to work for Lehman, no job tomorrow !
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    how would you like to work for Lehman, no job tomorrow !
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 10:21 PM ET #120

    put your money in Gold for now
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    put your money in Gold for now
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2008 - 11:03 PM ET #121


    Or work for AIG: now begging the Feds for a 40 billion bridge loan.Let us all hope this is not the Alaskan Bridge to Nowhere Part II...

    Hey, where is Al Greenspan when ya need him????

    I would laugh,  but this shit is no laughing matter at this point...just a very scary, sad  scene.
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    Or work for AIG: now begging the Feds for a 40 billion bridge loan.Let us all hope this is not the Alaskan Bridge to Nowhere Part II...

    Hey, where is Al Greenspan when ya need him????

    I would laugh,  but this shit is no laughing matter at this point...just a very scary, sad  scene.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2008 - 5:55 AM ET #122

    aig is done. the fed has to say no. im not footing the bill for this


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    aig is done. the fed has to say no. im not footing the bill for this


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