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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 9:38 PM ET #101

    i had a feeling that would happen. i bought skf at about 136 and waited for the market to get killed again. took profits too soon though.
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    i had a feeling that would happen. i bought skf at about 136 and waited for the market to get killed again. took profits too soon though.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 9:39 PM ET #102

    this market is really killing all rallies right now. I m only trading for the this week.

    tomorrow should very interesting. i havent checked but isnt thursday when they lift the fin. short selling ban ??
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    this market is really killing all rallies right now. I m only trading for the this week.

    tomorrow should very interesting. i havent checked but isnt thursday when they lift the fin. short selling ban ??
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 12:09 AM ET #103

    Hmmmm

    Apparently the Fed is thinking of using some of that $700 billion to infuse cash directly into banks in exchange for equity stakes in those banks.  As usual there are not a lot of details, but I wonder if that means they wind up diluting common shares or will the gov't will take preferred shares or maybe some other form of equity.

    If they can set up an open exchange for the CDS' at little to no cost and then use the money to actually directly infuse cash into the banks in return for equity in the banks this could actually turn out to be a somewhat decent plan after all for the system and taxpayers. 
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    Hmmmm

    Apparently the Fed is thinking of using some of that $700 billion to infuse cash directly into banks in exchange for equity stakes in those banks.  As usual there are not a lot of details, but I wonder if that means they wind up diluting common shares or will the gov't will take preferred shares or maybe some other form of equity.

    If they can set up an open exchange for the CDS' at little to no cost and then use the money to actually directly infuse cash into the banks in return for equity in the banks this could actually turn out to be a somewhat decent plan after all for the system and taxpayers. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 5:11 AM ET #104

    Looks like there could be a short covering explosion today.  IBM is powerful.
     
    Am going to dive in to the shark infested water head first.
     
    In pre-market, will get long these for day-trades only:
     
    IBM
    JPM
    DIA
    SPY
    UYG
     
    Will close out all 4 either in after-hours or before close.  No way would I go long Thursday night if there are no bombs dropped today.
     
    Won't be able to post entries or exits----will be at work.
     
    I just believe today is the mother of all short-covering rallies.
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    Looks like there could be a short covering explosion today.  IBM is powerful.
     
    Am going to dive in to the shark infested water head first.
     
    In pre-market, will get long these for day-trades only:
     
    IBM
    JPM
    DIA
    SPY
    UYG
     
    Will close out all 4 either in after-hours or before close.  No way would I go long Thursday night if there are no bombs dropped today.
     
    Won't be able to post entries or exits----will be at work.
     
    I just believe today is the mother of all short-covering rallies.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 5:11 AM ET #105

    Close out all 5, that is.
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    Close out all 5, that is.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 7:14 AM ET #106


    If they can set up an open exchange for the CDS' at little to no cost and then use the money to actually directly infuse cash into the banks in return for equity in the banks this could actually turn out to be a somewhat decent plan after all for the system and taxpayers.
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    buy CME and ICE...it will go there...it has to. people need to be honest and putting everything on a transparent market is the best way to do it
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    If they can set up an open exchange for the CDS' at little to no cost and then use the money to actually directly infuse cash into the banks in return for equity in the banks this could actually turn out to be a somewhat decent plan after all for the system and taxpayers.
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    buy CME and ICE...it will go there...it has to. people need to be honest and putting everything on a transparent market is the best way to do it
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 9:33 AM ET #107

    Good morning all,
     
    Well let's get this started...DOW is up and running
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    Good morning all,
     
    Well let's get this started...DOW is up and running
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 9:37 AM ET #108

    Up sharply early (100 pts). Could mean we only lose 200 or so today
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    Up sharply early (100 pts). Could mean we only lose 200 or so today
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 9:47 AM ET #109

    They better bounce today as no one will want to be long the weekend...at least I don't.
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    They better bounce today as no one will want to be long the weekend...at least I don't.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 10:13 AM ET #110

    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Looks like there could be a short covering explosion today.  IBM is powerful.
     
    Am going to dive in to the shark infested water head first.
     
    In pre-market, will get long these for day-trades only:
     
    IBM
    JPM
    DIA
    SPY
    UYG
     
    Will close out all 4 either in after-hours or before close.  No way would I go long Thursday night if there are no bombs dropped today.
     
    Won't be able to post entries or exits----will be at work.
     
    I just believe today is the mother of all short-covering rallies.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Looks like there could be a short covering explosion today.  IBM is powerful.
     
    Am going to dive in to the shark infested water head first.
     
    In pre-market, will get long these for day-trades only:
     
    IBM
    JPM
    DIA
    SPY
    UYG
     
    Will close out all 4 either in after-hours or before close.  No way would I go long Thursday night if there are no bombs dropped today.
     
    Won't be able to post entries or exits----will be at work.
     
    I just believe today is the mother of all short-covering rallies.


     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 11:13 AM ET #111

    The market is allergic to gains.  Incredible.
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    The market is allergic to gains.  Incredible.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 11:57 AM ET #112

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonwhitesknee:

    Up sharply early (100 pts). Could mean we only lose 200 or so today


    So true..seems to happen every day and so far today is no different.

    I am a little shocked that the drop in financials (since the short save time is done) hasnt dragged the market down even more.

    I really like the idea of making a public market for CDOs, it surely couldnt hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonwhitesknee:

    Up sharply early (100 pts). Could mean we only lose 200 or so today


    So true..seems to happen every day and so far today is no different.

    I am a little shocked that the drop in financials (since the short save time is done) hasnt dragged the market down even more.

    I really like the idea of making a public market for CDOs, it surely couldnt hurt.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 12:14 PM ET #113


    My question is, what has taken them so gd long to do it Walls...it makes you wonder.CDOs should have been regulated long ago.

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    My question is, what has taken them so gd long to do it Walls...it makes you wonder.CDOs should have been regulated long ago.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 12:17 PM ET #114

    Hey Wall - Has your opinion changed much on DRYS? ... at 21.67 I bought some more shares today for me and the kiddos.
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    Hey Wall - Has your opinion changed much on DRYS? ... at 21.67 I bought some more shares today for me and the kiddos.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 12:24 PM ET #115

    Piles,

    Nope..my view on DRYS hasnt, the price sure has and Ive taken a major beating on the stock.

    I guess they want to price the stock at 1 times 2008 earnings and 2 times 2009, I dont get it personally.

    You get the spin with the shares, hold on for a year and I have to think it is a double to triple from these levels.

    Vermeer, I think the reason for not opening the markets is it would open the books of the companies and show how bad the leverage is. I think it is a GREAT idea and anything that adds liquidity has to be good for the market.
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    Piles,

    Nope..my view on DRYS hasnt, the price sure has and Ive taken a major beating on the stock.

    I guess they want to price the stock at 1 times 2008 earnings and 2 times 2009, I dont get it personally.

    You get the spin with the shares, hold on for a year and I have to think it is a double to triple from these levels.

    Vermeer, I think the reason for not opening the markets is it would open the books of the companies and show how bad the leverage is. I think it is a GREAT idea and anything that adds liquidity has to be good for the market.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 1:02 PM ET #116

    Something tells me that both F and GM go into reorg bankruptcy, F at 2 and change, GM at 5 and change.


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    Something tells me that both F and GM go into reorg bankruptcy, F at 2 and change, GM at 5 and change.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 1:07 PM ET #117

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Something tells me that both F and GM go into reorg bankruptcy, F at 2 and change, GM at 5 and change.




     They are long overdue.

     They might as well nationalize them. Truly a pathetic testimony to stupidity on a grand scale.From utter dominance to bk in a short 40 years.

     How stupid can a group act?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Something tells me that both F and GM go into reorg bankruptcy, F at 2 and change, GM at 5 and change.




     They are long overdue.

     They might as well nationalize them. Truly a pathetic testimony to stupidity on a grand scale.From utter dominance to bk in a short 40 years.

     How stupid can a group act?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 1:10 PM ET #118

    Yep, would the country miss their average product? Not likely.

    F makes good trucks so they say, I own a Toyota truck and a Honda car and wont be buying domestic anytime soon.

    The unions killed these companies..overpaying their workers and giving too good of benefits, while making below average product at high prices.


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    Yep, would the country miss their average product? Not likely.

    F makes good trucks so they say, I own a Toyota truck and a Honda car and wont be buying domestic anytime soon.

    The unions killed these companies..overpaying their workers and giving too good of benefits, while making below average product at high prices.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 1:19 PM ET #119

    Our automotive industry is terrible 2009 coming and we dont even have 1 flying car !!! no but really what have they done to make a new alt fuel car/ electric  car.

    can you imagine if we all had alternate fuel cars. our economy would boom. and we can tell the oil producers what we really think of them.
    gm and f both did nothing positive for the last 20 years. build bigger gas hogs.

    GM shares are worth less than they were in 1929  !!!!
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    Our automotive industry is terrible 2009 coming and we dont even have 1 flying car !!! no but really what have they done to make a new alt fuel car/ electric  car.

    can you imagine if we all had alternate fuel cars. our economy would boom. and we can tell the oil producers what we really think of them.
    gm and f both did nothing positive for the last 20 years. build bigger gas hogs.

    GM shares are worth less than they were in 1929  !!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 2:25 PM ET #120

    Well, what looked decent early on is starting to turn sour again.  I don't recall so many days in a row that the Dow has dropped.  Looks like the Fed won't be buying those assets until the end of the month.  So much for having to act quickly, and I think the market is reflecting that.
     
    BOL on your stocks.  Going to need it for the short term.
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    Well, what looked decent early on is starting to turn sour again.  I don't recall so many days in a row that the Dow has dropped.  Looks like the Fed won't be buying those assets until the end of the month.  So much for having to act quickly, and I think the market is reflecting that.
     
    BOL on your stocks.  Going to need it for the short term.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 2:34 PM ET #121

    By the way, I work in a Law Office that does mostly Real Estate.  While banks up here are safe, the shit is slowly starting to hit the fan here as well.  Toronto Dominion raised their mortgage lending rates, and the others will follow suit.  While indicators are still good up here (housing starts are still slightly up) I can feel next year we could be in for some rocky times. 
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    By the way, I work in a Law Office that does mostly Real Estate.  While banks up here are safe, the shit is slowly starting to hit the fan here as well.  Toronto Dominion raised their mortgage lending rates, and the others will follow suit.  While indicators are still good up here (housing starts are still slightly up) I can feel next year we could be in for some rocky times. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 2:58 PM ET #122


     Wall, an article on Greenie...nothing you do not know, but he still can't smell the shit he shovels.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09greenspan.html?_r=1&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

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     Wall, an article on Greenie...nothing you do not know, but he still can't smell the shit he shovels.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09greenspan.html?_r=1&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 3:01 PM ET #123

    Wow, we might fall below 9000 today
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    Wow, we might fall below 9000 today
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 3:02 PM ET #124

    Below 9000 now for the first time in ages
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    Below 9000 now for the first time in ages
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 3:31 PM ET #125

    just hit -400.......what will it close at today? insane selloff since the 3pm hour
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    just hit -400.......what will it close at today? insane selloff since the 3pm hour
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