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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2008 - 11:23 PM ET #1

    I am puting my foot down and calling for some upwards momentum


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I am puting my foot down and calling for some upwards momentum


     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2008 - 11:26 PM ET #2

    Getting gutted in the stock market is

    FANTASTIC


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    Getting gutted in the stock market is

    FANTASTIC


     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 8:23 AM ET #3

    Best Buy with their shity sales and forecast can't stop us.

    We are going higher today


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    Best Buy with their shity sales and forecast can't stop us.

    We are going higher today


     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 8:51 AM ET #4

    use the skf as your best barometer of the overall market

    chart

    on election day i saw the SKF was at 115 or so and figured something would happen or there would be a momentum shift to push that back to the 160-170 level

    it did...just as it gets close to 190 or so in the next few days it will be the bottom of any near term trading range...of course without the influence of any outside events

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    use the skf as your best barometer of the overall market

    chart

    on election day i saw the SKF was at 115 or so and figured something would happen or there would be a momentum shift to push that back to the 160-170 level

    it did...just as it gets close to 190 or so in the next few days it will be the bottom of any near term trading range...of course without the influence of any outside events

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 10:38 AM ET #5



    Down almost 300 now
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    Down almost 300 now
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 11:19 AM ET #6

    Shouldn't the Circuit City BK be good for Best Buy?  Eventually eliminates their main competitor.  A lot of people go to either BB or CC, now (or after CC goes bye bye) they will just go to BB.  Am I wrong on this?
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    Shouldn't the Circuit City BK be good for Best Buy?  Eventually eliminates their main competitor.  A lot of people go to either BB or CC, now (or after CC goes bye bye) they will just go to BB.  Am I wrong on this?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 11:33 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    Shouldn't the Circuit City BK be good for Best Buy?  Eventually eliminates their main competitor.  A lot of people go to either BB or CC, now (or after CC goes bye bye) they will just go to BB.  Am I wrong on this?


    CC has been close to a non factor for years now

    But the CC issue doesn't matter if no one is buying anything.  That was the issue today, although it really shouldn't have been a surprise.  All you had to do was go out to a mall in the last two months and you would have seen that things were WAY off.  Wall to wall doom and gloom will have that effect on the sheeple
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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    Shouldn't the Circuit City BK be good for Best Buy?  Eventually eliminates their main competitor.  A lot of people go to either BB or CC, now (or after CC goes bye bye) they will just go to BB.  Am I wrong on this?


    CC has been close to a non factor for years now

    But the CC issue doesn't matter if no one is buying anything.  That was the issue today, although it really shouldn't have been a surprise.  All you had to do was go out to a mall in the last two months and you would have seen that things were WAY off.  Wall to wall doom and gloom will have that effect on the sheeple
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 12:01 PM ET #8

    Is everybody wearing their rally caps?

    Once everyone puts theirs on we will head up, so put the fuckers on already


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    Is everybody wearing their rally caps?

    Once everyone puts theirs on we will head up, so put the fuckers on already


     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 12:40 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwhitey:

    Is everybody wearing their rally caps?

    Once everyone puts theirs on we will head up, so put the fuckers on already




    I dont think many people believe the rallies, I sure dont. They try early and smash it down into the close.

    The news today about the toxic stuff not being absorbed isnt making the markets happy, and the KBE (banking index) is near a low again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwhitey:

    Is everybody wearing their rally caps?

    Once everyone puts theirs on we will head up, so put the fuckers on already




    I dont think many people believe the rallies, I sure dont. They try early and smash it down into the close.

    The news today about the toxic stuff not being absorbed isnt making the markets happy, and the KBE (banking index) is near a low again.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 2:54 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    Shouldn't the Circuit City BK be good for Best Buy?  Eventually eliminates their main competitor.  A lot of people go to either BB or CC, now (or after CC goes bye bye) they will just go to BB.  Am I wrong on this?


    not wrong but what if they dont go anywhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    Shouldn't the Circuit City BK be good for Best Buy?  Eventually eliminates their main competitor.  A lot of people go to either BB or CC, now (or after CC goes bye bye) they will just go to BB.  Am I wrong on this?


    not wrong but what if they dont go anywhere?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 2:55 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    I dont think many people believe the rallies, I sure dont. They try early and smash it down into the close.

    The news today about the toxic stuff not being absorbed isnt making the markets happy, and the KBE (banking index) is near a low again.


    or maybe that Bald and the Beard dont know what they're doing

    and if they're running the show and dont have confidence in their plan why should anyone else

    "Get back in there and sell Wilson!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    I dont think many people believe the rallies, I sure dont. They try early and smash it down into the close.

    The news today about the toxic stuff not being absorbed isnt making the markets happy, and the KBE (banking index) is near a low again.


    or maybe that Bald and the Beard dont know what they're doing

    and if they're running the show and dont have confidence in their plan why should anyone else

    "Get back in there and sell Wilson!!!"
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 3:03 PM ET #12

    Well the market is in sh!t mode and has been since the election, they are starting to warm up the selling maching yet again.

    Funny stuff, still stocks out there that are overpriced by 40% or so..mainly GOOG, AAPL, ISRG, stocks with high PE ratios in a consolidating market.


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    Well the market is in sh!t mode and has been since the election, they are starting to warm up the selling maching yet again.

    Funny stuff, still stocks out there that are overpriced by 40% or so..mainly GOOG, AAPL, ISRG, stocks with high PE ratios in a consolidating market.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 3:25 PM ET #13

    keep cash on the side wall...

    companies like mcd, wmt, tgt will thrive in a shit economy and be better once we get out in 5-7 years


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    keep cash on the side wall...

    companies like mcd, wmt, tgt will thrive in a shit economy and be better once we get out in 5-7 years


     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 3:31 PM ET #14

    use the skf as your best barometer of the overall market
     
    good point because it really does come down to the financials. IF there is no money moving in the economy, then everything comes to  a halt just like in the early 30's.
     
    that being said, I think just about ALL the bad news is out in the gaming stocks. they can 4 sure still go lower BUT I think we a close to a bottom in that industry group.. I bot another 1k of LVS today @ 4.96
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    use the skf as your best barometer of the overall market
     
    good point because it really does come down to the financials. IF there is no money moving in the economy, then everything comes to  a halt just like in the early 30's.
     
    that being said, I think just about ALL the bad news is out in the gaming stocks. they can 4 sure still go lower BUT I think we a close to a bottom in that industry group.. I bot another 1k of LVS today @ 4.96
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 3:45 PM ET #15

    Ugh, somebody burn this thread

    I tried to slump bust it, I failed

    Someone else start a new thread, a winning thread
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    Ugh, somebody burn this thread

    I tried to slump bust it, I failed

    Someone else start a new thread, a winning thread
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 3:48 PM ET #16

    Koaj,

    MCD isnt one I would own, they are going against tough comps next year and that venture into full serve coffee is a terrible decision ROR wise.

    Locally they keep raising prices as well. At 54 bucks I wouldnt touch MCD.

    TGT and WMT are experiencing slower growth, and arent safe havens to me either.

    I guess if I would be buying for safety I would look at tech like CSCO or MSFT.
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    Koaj,

    MCD isnt one I would own, they are going against tough comps next year and that venture into full serve coffee is a terrible decision ROR wise.

    Locally they keep raising prices as well. At 54 bucks I wouldnt touch MCD.

    TGT and WMT are experiencing slower growth, and arent safe havens to me either.

    I guess if I would be buying for safety I would look at tech like CSCO or MSFT.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 3:52 PM ET #17

    Why is the VIX "only" at 66?

    Its up less than 5 today, on a down 400+- day
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    Why is the VIX "only" at 66?

    Its up less than 5 today, on a down 400+- day
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 3:59 PM ET #18

    AK Steel down 25%.

    This is getting insane.  
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    AK Steel down 25%.

    This is getting insane.  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 4:54 PM ET #19

    400+ loss today on the DOW

    Ouch
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    400+ loss today on the DOW

    Ouch
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 4:59 PM ET #20

    d2 - i would stay away from steel names...a TON of hedge fund ownership. its a very crowded trade

    nat gas will be nice soon enough,...CHK/SD are good names

    beyond that, i dont like anything outside of the healthcare world and i wouldnt recommend anyone buy anything unless you are dollar cost averaging for the next 20 years
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    d2 - i would stay away from steel names...a TON of hedge fund ownership. its a very crowded trade

    nat gas will be nice soon enough,...CHK/SD are good names

    beyond that, i dont like anything outside of the healthcare world and i wouldnt recommend anyone buy anything unless you are dollar cost averaging for the next 20 years
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 8:56 PM ET #21

    The nice thing about a stock like DRYS getting beat down to the 8-9 range is that 10% drops don't hurt as much anymore because its only about $.90.  Better than the days when that meant $5-$8.


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    The nice thing about a stock like DRYS getting beat down to the 8-9 range is that 10% drops don't hurt as much anymore because its only about $.90.  Better than the days when that meant $5-$8.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2008 - 11:21 AM ET #22

    KOAJ I agree with your CHK choice there.  I think this one might be getting ready to start moving back up
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    KOAJ I agree with your CHK choice there.  I think this one might be getting ready to start moving back up
     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2008 - 11:41 AM ET #23

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    How will this hedge fund hearing effect the market today?
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    How will this hedge fund hearing effect the market today?
     
     
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    If memory serves did not some honcho at CHK get forced into liquidating a load of shares? Or am I thinking of another incident??

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    If memory serves did not some honcho at CHK get forced into liquidating a load of shares? Or am I thinking of another incident??

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