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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2008 - 8:33 PM ET #1

    No to rush it, I think we should ge to 100 posts on the other but the week starts off:

    DJIA*
    12209.81-394.64-3.13%
    S&P 500*1360.68-43.37-3.09%
    Nasdaq*2474.56-75.38-2.96%
    U.K.*5906.80-88.50-1.48%
    Hong Kong*24402.18146.890.61%

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    No to rush it, I think we should ge to 100 posts on the other but the week starts off:

    DJIA*
    12209.81-394.64-3.13%
    S&P 500*1360.68-43.37-3.09%
    Nasdaq*2474.56-75.38-2.96%
    U.K.*5906.80-88.50-1.48%
    Hong Kong*24402.18146.890.61%

     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2008 - 8:46 PM ET #2

    I was debating starting a new thread in an attempt to shake off the bad vibes from last Friday

    What are everyones thoughts as to how Monday will shake out?
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    I was debating starting a new thread in an attempt to shake off the bad vibes from last Friday

    What are everyones thoughts as to how Monday will shake out?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2008 - 9:36 PM ET #3


    Mine are unfortunately bearish for many many reasons already listed. I would love some good news.

     I don't usually look at a single day, but I think digesting Friday is going to take some time. Maybe all summer.




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    Mine are unfortunately bearish for many many reasons already listed. I would love some good news.

     I don't usually look at a single day, but I think digesting Friday is going to take some time. Maybe all summer.




     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2008 - 9:59 PM ET #4

    I think any dip in gas is a buying opp, we have no solution to the problem, the speculators arent scared so up we go and down goes the market.

    That doesnt mean that every stock will go down, in fact there is a case for solars to go up..with higher energy and a DEM maybe in the office, good times should continue for solar.
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    I think any dip in gas is a buying opp, we have no solution to the problem, the speculators arent scared so up we go and down goes the market.

    That doesnt mean that every stock will go down, in fact there is a case for solars to go up..with higher energy and a DEM maybe in the office, good times should continue for solar.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2008 - 10:50 PM ET #5

    I agree, WSC.
     
    The bottom line is making money, and I hate to say it, too, but, the easy trade right now is to buy oil on dips.
     
    I damn sure wouldn't chase it here (especially after the blow-off the last 2 days), but any pullback looks like a no-brainer to me.
     
    And since we're in confession month, the other easy trade is to short financials on hype and hoopla.
     
    Brutal times ahead......no question about it.
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    I agree, WSC.
     
    The bottom line is making money, and I hate to say it, too, but, the easy trade right now is to buy oil on dips.
     
    I damn sure wouldn't chase it here (especially after the blow-off the last 2 days), but any pullback looks like a no-brainer to me.
     
    And since we're in confession month, the other easy trade is to short financials on hype and hoopla.
     
    Brutal times ahead......no question about it.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2008 - 11:16 PM ET #6

    There could be some sort of short covering sucker's rally for Monday, and then again, the beating could continue.
     
    Any "rally" in SP 500 should be scoffed at, and any selling in SP 500 should be acknowledged.
     
    Oil soaring through the roof, the US consumer not buying or doing anything unless it's totally necessary, many financials still in deep doo-doo, summer lay-offs, a hideous employment picture "going forward"................if anyone here is NOT bearish for this month, I'd like you to please send me some of the drugs you're using.
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    There could be some sort of short covering sucker's rally for Monday, and then again, the beating could continue.
     
    Any "rally" in SP 500 should be scoffed at, and any selling in SP 500 should be acknowledged.
     
    Oil soaring through the roof, the US consumer not buying or doing anything unless it's totally necessary, many financials still in deep doo-doo, summer lay-offs, a hideous employment picture "going forward"................if anyone here is NOT bearish for this month, I'd like you to please send me some of the drugs you're using.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2008 - 11:56 PM ET #7

    Yeah I think the move on friday was overdone but I have to think any rally will be short until we test previous support levels and see if it holds.

    As of now we are still in a lower range of the trading band for the last 6 months or so, nothing broken just yet.


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    Yeah I think the move on friday was overdone but I have to think any rally will be short until we test previous support levels and see if it holds.

    As of now we are still in a lower range of the trading band for the last 6 months or so, nothing broken just yet.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 8:11 AM ET #8

    Not a shock that Lehman (LEH) has confessed today.  Everyone and his dog knew that was coming.
     
    So how does it trade today?  I have no clue.  If anyone does, then please chime in cause this is certainly a liquid money maker/money loser for today's day-trading.  No trouble at all today with any fills on it.  Volume will be off the charts.
     
    Also, no idea how the SP 500 fares today, either.  Figured there'd be some sort of short covering bounce at open due to last Friday's carnage, but the LEH news is the rain on that parade for the moment.
     
    Will look at QTWW today and see if it gets active.  I do believe a blow-off top is coming in that one, but it may only occur on the heels of another oil panic buying spree, and that doesn't "appear" to be the case right now, since oil is what, up 15 bucks the last 3 trading days?  Someone's going to be cashing out today.
     
     
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    Not a shock that Lehman (LEH) has confessed today.  Everyone and his dog knew that was coming.
     
    So how does it trade today?  I have no clue.  If anyone does, then please chime in cause this is certainly a liquid money maker/money loser for today's day-trading.  No trouble at all today with any fills on it.  Volume will be off the charts.
     
    Also, no idea how the SP 500 fares today, either.  Figured there'd be some sort of short covering bounce at open due to last Friday's carnage, but the LEH news is the rain on that parade for the moment.
     
    Will look at QTWW today and see if it gets active.  I do believe a blow-off top is coming in that one, but it may only occur on the heels of another oil panic buying spree, and that doesn't "appear" to be the case right now, since oil is what, up 15 bucks the last 3 trading days?  Someone's going to be cashing out today.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 8:25 AM ET #9

    LEH will trade down all day long.  but i'm not touching it.
     
    look for the SPY to bounce to 137 to 137.5, then sell off. 
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    LEH will trade down all day long.  but i'm not touching it.
     
    look for the SPY to bounce to 137 to 137.5, then sell off. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 8:35 AM ET #10

    Yeh, Gunners, I don't follow LEH, but I see it breaking support at 29ish, then, who knows?  What I do know is the short covering spikes in it will be absolutely vicious.  Will probably sit that one out, too,  cause I got a feeling I'll be wrong, no matter what I do.  Don't need the aggravation.
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    Yeh, Gunners, I don't follow LEH, but I see it breaking support at 29ish, then, who knows?  What I do know is the short covering spikes in it will be absolutely vicious.  Will probably sit that one out, too,  cause I got a feeling I'll be wrong, no matter what I do.  Don't need the aggravation.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 8:53 AM ET #11

    LEH prices secondary at 28.00.
     
    Needs to raise 6.0 BILLION.......................
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    LEH prices secondary at 28.00.
     
    Needs to raise 6.0 BILLION.......................
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 9:34 AM ET #12

    Took the plunge at the open on QTWW.
     
    2500 x 2.92.
     
    Could be getting a "sucker price," though, as this has basically gone straight up since mid March.  Either a sell-off is coming, or a blow-off is coming.  Am pretty sure it moves from this level in severe fashion--------up or down.
     
    Going to have to be nimble and quick with this one.....ony a "trade," not an "investment."
     
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    Took the plunge at the open on QTWW.
     
    2500 x 2.92.
     
    Could be getting a "sucker price," though, as this has basically gone straight up since mid March.  Either a sell-off is coming, or a blow-off is coming.  Am pretty sure it moves from this level in severe fashion--------up or down.
     
    Going to have to be nimble and quick with this one.....ony a "trade," not an "investment."
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 9:41 AM ET #13

    Certainly a hideous start for QTWW..............2.83...............
     
    Going to have to think about where a protective stop is to be placed (should've done that immediately at execution).
     
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    Certainly a hideous start for QTWW..............2.83...............
     
    Going to have to think about where a protective stop is to be placed (should've done that immediately at execution).
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 10:09 AM ET #14

    Stop order to sell 1500 at 2.23.  If it gets filled, will then look to add the 1500 back in the 1.5-1.6 area.
     
    Bad, bad, bad, bad start.  But, got to take emotion out of it and be agnostic.
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    Stop order to sell 1500 at 2.23.  If it gets filled, will then look to add the 1500 back in the 1.5-1.6 area.
     
    Bad, bad, bad, bad start.  But, got to take emotion out of it and be agnostic.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 10:20 AM ET #15

    For a trader, FEAR, GREED, and EMOTION essentially mean FAMINE, PESTILENCE, and DEATH.
     
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    For a trader, FEAR, GREED, and EMOTION essentially mean FAMINE, PESTILENCE, and DEATH.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 11:02 AM ET #16

    Peabody Coal (BTU) is absolutely on fire.  The whole coal sector is and has been getting walked up for a long, long time.

    Tempted to jump on BTU for a trade, but the run has me too chicken s--t to do anything.  Therefore, it is about a 97% guarantee that it runs the rest of the day.

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    Peabody Coal (BTU) is absolutely on fire.  The whole coal sector is and has been getting walked up for a long, long time.

    Tempted to jump on BTU for a trade, but the run has me too chicken s--t to do anything.  Therefore, it is about a 97% guarantee that it runs the rest of the day.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 11:23 AM ET #17

    i blew out of QTWW.  lost $200.  ah well, there are better ways to focus my cash. 
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    i blew out of QTWW.  lost $200.  ah well, there are better ways to focus my cash. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 11:28 AM ET #18

    QTWW is busted.
     
    Unloaded all 2500 at 2.56 for a total assf--k today.  Way it goes, don't feel like waiting for it to go to 2.2ish today.
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    QTWW is busted.
     
    Unloaded all 2500 at 2.56 for a total assf--k today.  Way it goes, don't feel like waiting for it to go to 2.2ish today.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 11:30 AM ET #19

    QTWW will come back, no question.  When?  Who knows?  The manipulators just want to take it lower before taking it back up.
     
    Way it goes.
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    QTWW will come back, no question.  When?  Who knows?  The manipulators just want to take it lower before taking it back up.
     
    Way it goes.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 1:22 PM ET #20

    MBI, ABK and SCA taking it on the chin again today.  SCA may be worth a quick in and out at around $0.50-$0.55
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    MBI, ABK and SCA taking it on the chin again today.  SCA may be worth a quick in and out at around $0.50-$0.55
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 1:31 PM ET #21

    If I was taking the plunge it would only be with MBI, none of the others.
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    If I was taking the plunge it would only be with MBI, none of the others.
     
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    SQNM blasting up another 8% today.  Up almost 70% last 4 trading sessions.  
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    SQNM blasting up another 8% today.  Up almost 70% last 4 trading sessions.  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 2:08 PM ET #23

    Yeah they are bumping some speculative names in the "sector" that is hot.

    For the market looking like crap there are stocks doing well today.

    SQNM up on the news from last week..
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    Yeah they are bumping some speculative names in the "sector" that is hot.

    For the market looking like crap there are stocks doing well today.

    SQNM up on the news from last week..
     
    Gunners
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 2:29 PM ET #24

    i bought puts on PCLN this morning, working out great, they fell below a crucial 100 day trend line. 
     
    Also bought more calls on FXP this morning. 
     
    was anyone NOT expecting the market to sell off after going up 100+ points?  easy money today. 
     
    QQQQ getting hit the hardest
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    i bought puts on PCLN this morning, working out great, they fell below a crucial 100 day trend line. 
     
    Also bought more calls on FXP this morning. 
     
    was anyone NOT expecting the market to sell off after going up 100+ points?  easy money today. 
     
    QQQQ getting hit the hardest
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 2:45 PM ET #25

    Gunners,

    PCLN is in the momentum crowd, use a tight mental stop, if the market goes up it will go up much faster.

    Nice job!

    They easily could toss the DOW down 100 in the last hour or up 100..either way I doubt we close here.  

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    Gunners,

    PCLN is in the momentum crowd, use a tight mental stop, if the market goes up it will go up much faster.

    Nice job!

    They easily could toss the DOW down 100 in the last hour or up 100..either way I doubt we close here.  

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