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    2018 Breeders Cup Updates

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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2018 - 6:10 PM ET #1

    Mike Smith has decided to ride Abel Talsman instead of Midnight Bisou in the BC Distaff. Johnny V picks up the mount.

    Diversify will not run in the Classic primarily because of health issues with trainer Rick Violette.

    Rushing Fall will not run in the Filly/Mare Turf due to the 1 3/8 mile distance. Valliska will also skip the race.

     

    Feel free to add data as it comes available.

     

     

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    Mike Smith has decided to ride Abel Talsman instead of Midnight Bisou in the BC Distaff. Johnny V picks up the mount.

    Diversify will not run in the Classic primarily because of health issues with trainer Rick Violette.

    Rushing Fall will not run in the Filly/Mare Turf due to the 1 3/8 mile distance. Valliska will also skip the race.

     

    Feel free to add data as it comes available.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2018 - 6:25 PM ET #2

    Hi Midnight .Dont really have an update right now but was wondering if you caught Yoshidas run in the Gr. 1 Woodward back on September  1st.
    He ran great on turf, only finishing worse then 2nd once in eight races and then switched to dirt for the first time in the Woodward.
    Maybe it wasnt that strong a field,but he looked like he had a lot left in the tank. Looked exceptional  crossing the finish line
    Hes a good long shot along with another I like, Thunder Snow.
    Should be a great Classic. Accelerate will be tough to beat.

    Right now for me its Yoshida,Thunder Snow and flying late, Mind your Biscuits.
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    Hi Midnight .Dont really have an update right now but was wondering if you caught Yoshidas run in the Gr. 1 Woodward back on September  1st.
    He ran great on turf, only finishing worse then 2nd once in eight races and then switched to dirt for the first time in the Woodward.
    Maybe it wasnt that strong a field,but he looked like he had a lot left in the tank. Looked exceptional  crossing the finish line
    Hes a good long shot along with another I like, Thunder Snow.
    Should be a great Classic. Accelerate will be tough to beat.

    Right now for me its Yoshida,Thunder Snow and flying late, Mind your Biscuits.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2018 - 8:08 PM ET #3

    Hey vet...I love Yoshida as well. Billy Mott can get his horses ready for big days such as this. I came across this article giving an inside look at the connections of Yoshida. Enjoy!

    https://www.paulickreport.com/features/breeders-cup-presents-connections/breeders-cup-presents-connections-everyday-passion-has-yoshida-ready-for-classic/

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    Hey vet...I love Yoshida as well. Billy Mott can get his horses ready for big days such as this. I came across this article giving an inside look at the connections of Yoshida. Enjoy!

    https://www.paulickreport.com/features/breeders-cup-presents-connections/breeders-cup-presents-connections-everyday-passion-has-yoshida-ready-for-classic/

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2018 - 8:11 PM ET #4

    BTW..this link to the Paulick Report has some great BC updates now & there will be more in the coming week.

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    BTW..this link to the Paulick Report has some great BC updates now & there will be more in the coming week.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2018 - 1:52 PM ET #5

    Nice article . Good info.Thanks for posting.

    Dont know if you've heard of Aaron Halterman.
    One of the better reads for me when it comes to handicapping.

    Lets keep this info going guys.



    https://racingdudes.com/2018-breeders-cup-predictions-8-final-set-of-predictions/

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    Nice article . Good info.Thanks for posting.

    Dont know if you've heard of Aaron Halterman.
    One of the better reads for me when it comes to handicapping.

    Lets keep this info going guys.



    https://racingdudes.com/2018-breeders-cup-predictions-8-final-set-of-predictions/

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2018 - 9:37 PM ET #6

    Thanks Vet! Great website recommendation!!

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    Thanks Vet! Great website recommendation!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2018 - 4:56 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by vetdrm:

    Hi Midnight .Dont really have an update right now but was wondering if you caught Yoshidas run in the Gr. 1 Woodward back on September  1st.He ran great on turf, only finishing worse then 2nd once in eight races and then switched to dirt for the first time in the Woodward.Maybe it wasnt that strong a field,but he looked like he had a lot left in the tank. Looked exceptional  crossing the finish lineHes a good long shot along with another I like, Thunder Snow.Should be a great Classic. Accelerate will be tough to beat.Right now for me its Yoshida,Thunder Snow and flying late, Mind your Biscuits.

    vet...just took a cursory look & Accelerate from the 14 post will have to gun it to get lead away from West Coast. It's a perfect setup for someone charging down the lane in the stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetdrm:

    Hi Midnight .Dont really have an update right now but was wondering if you caught Yoshidas run in the Gr. 1 Woodward back on September  1st.He ran great on turf, only finishing worse then 2nd once in eight races and then switched to dirt for the first time in the Woodward.Maybe it wasnt that strong a field,but he looked like he had a lot left in the tank. Looked exceptional  crossing the finish lineHes a good long shot along with another I like, Thunder Snow.Should be a great Classic. Accelerate will be tough to beat.Right now for me its Yoshida,Thunder Snow and flying late, Mind your Biscuits.

    vet...just took a cursory look & Accelerate from the 14 post will have to gun it to get lead away from West Coast. It's a perfect setup for someone charging down the lane in the stretch.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2018 - 7:19 PM ET #8

     Johnny O - no problem

    Midnight-Did not notice he was on the far outside.Guess if your backing him you may get 5-2 now. This field...man.
     Axelrod improving and 30-1 .Roaring Lion- three Gr 1 wins this summer in Europe. Came here and won his only synthetic start. DD odds.1st try on dirt
    Shying away from Yoshida for top honors. Keep looking back at iffy Woodward field.Still throw in some exotics.
    What an Intriguing race along with the Mile.

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     Johnny O - no problem

    Midnight-Did not notice he was on the far outside.Guess if your backing him you may get 5-2 now. This field...man.
     Axelrod improving and 30-1 .Roaring Lion- three Gr 1 wins this summer in Europe. Came here and won his only synthetic start. DD odds.1st try on dirt
    Shying away from Yoshida for top honors. Keep looking back at iffy Woodward field.Still throw in some exotics.
    What an Intriguing race along with the Mile.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2018 - 11:40 AM ET #9

    John Sadler is 0-41 in Breeders Cup wins.

    His entries are :
    Selcourt
    Shenandoah Queen
    Catapult
    Catalina Cruiser -  Favorite
    Accelerate - Favorite

    Distaff
    Calvin [Borail] Borel rides a good horse in the Distaff. 
    Champagne Problems.Last out 2nd in the Gr 1 Spinster.
    Tied for the best late pace in this race at DD odds.
    Tough competition here as hes up against Monomoy girl and Abel Tasman. Oh and Calvin has the 1 hole.
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    John Sadler is 0-41 in Breeders Cup wins.

    His entries are :
    Selcourt
    Shenandoah Queen
    Catapult
    Catalina Cruiser -  Favorite
    Accelerate - Favorite

    Distaff
    Calvin [Borail] Borel rides a good horse in the Distaff. 
    Champagne Problems.Last out 2nd in the Gr 1 Spinster.
    Tied for the best late pace in this race at DD odds.
    Tough competition here as hes up against Monomoy girl and Abel Tasman. Oh and Calvin has the 1 hole.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2018 - 8:59 PM ET #10

    Little chance of rain both Fri/Sat. Turf may be less than firm due to early week rain.

    After a 6 month break, West Coast ran 2nd to Accelerate in the Awesome Again. IMO Baffert will have him ready to fire again in the Classic.

    In the Juvenile Fillies, Sippican Harbor is a dead closer with plenty of early speed in the race. The chalk has won 53% of the time in this race.

    In the Sprint, Limousine Liberal has won 6 of 8 races @ Churchill. 

    In the Juvenile, don't forget Calvin Borel gets the rail on Dueling. 

     

     

     

     

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    Little chance of rain both Fri/Sat. Turf may be less than firm due to early week rain.

    After a 6 month break, West Coast ran 2nd to Accelerate in the Awesome Again. IMO Baffert will have him ready to fire again in the Classic.

    In the Juvenile Fillies, Sippican Harbor is a dead closer with plenty of early speed in the race. The chalk has won 53% of the time in this race.

    In the Sprint, Limousine Liberal has won 6 of 8 races @ Churchill. 

    In the Juvenile, don't forget Calvin Borel gets the rail on Dueling. 

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Little chance of rain both Fri/Sat. Turf may be less than firm due to early week rain. After a 6 month break, West Coast ran 2nd to Accelerate in the Awesome Again. IMO Baffert will have him ready to fire again in the Classic. In the Juvenile Fillies, Sippican Harbor is a dead closer with plenty of early speed in the race. The chalk has won 53% of the time in this race. In the Sprint, Limousine Liberal has won 6 of 8 races @ Churchill.  In the Juvenile, don't forget Calvin Borel gets the rail on Dueling.

    CORRECTION....Borel is not riding Dueling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Little chance of rain both Fri/Sat. Turf may be less than firm due to early week rain. After a 6 month break, West Coast ran 2nd to Accelerate in the Awesome Again. IMO Baffert will have him ready to fire again in the Classic. In the Juvenile Fillies, Sippican Harbor is a dead closer with plenty of early speed in the race. The chalk has won 53% of the time in this race. In the Sprint, Limousine Liberal has won 6 of 8 races @ Churchill.  In the Juvenile, don't forget Calvin Borel gets the rail on Dueling.

    CORRECTION....Borel is not riding Dueling.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2018 - 2:14 PM ET #12

    Heard an interesting comment made by Caton Bredar, wife of jock Florent Geroux, regarding the turf @ CD. Apparently they never rate the turf "soft". They use the "yielding" rating. She talked with jock Ryan Moore this morning & he said it was soft.

    If the rain continues, keep an eye on track conditions tomorrow/Saturday. 

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    Heard an interesting comment made by Caton Bredar, wife of jock Florent Geroux, regarding the turf @ CD. Apparently they never rate the turf "soft". They use the "yielding" rating. She talked with jock Ryan Moore this morning & he said it was soft.

    If the rain continues, keep an eye on track conditions tomorrow/Saturday. 

     
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    Yeah  soft ,yielding ,its going to be bad. 3" or 4 " rain? Yikes.
    Also noticed Mike Smith choose Mckinzie over West Coast in the Classic.
    Hey Midnight. Where the heck is everybody. I know Im not around that much except for the big races but Jesus Christ. Ten guys who would jump in for this every year. Why wait?
    Guess its you and me. To bad we cant have a few beers while were at it.

    Talking some about the Mile on Saturday.Mile is not kind to front runners.In the last 20 years theres been no winner who led after quarter or half mile.
    Last 11 winners were gr 1 winners entering the race.
    Average odds of the Mile winner...11.6 -1 or higher.and
    All the longshot winners were deep closers.
    Well try and beat Oscar Performance. Horse that fits the bill for me are Lightning Spear,and Catapult.
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    Yeah  soft ,yielding ,its going to be bad. 3" or 4 " rain? Yikes.
    Also noticed Mike Smith choose Mckinzie over West Coast in the Classic.
    Hey Midnight. Where the heck is everybody. I know Im not around that much except for the big races but Jesus Christ. Ten guys who would jump in for this every year. Why wait?
    Guess its you and me. To bad we cant have a few beers while were at it.

    Talking some about the Mile on Saturday.Mile is not kind to front runners.In the last 20 years theres been no winner who led after quarter or half mile.
    Last 11 winners were gr 1 winners entering the race.
    Average odds of the Mile winner...11.6 -1 or higher.and
    All the longshot winners were deep closers.
    Well try and beat Oscar Performance. Horse that fits the bill for me are Lightning Spear,and Catapult.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2018 - 4:47 PM ET #14

    Dont know if Ill make it back before tomorrows races.
    If not Good luck Midnight and well try Sat morning
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    Dont know if Ill make it back before tomorrows races.
    If not Good luck Midnight and well try Sat morning
     
     
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    Good Luck Boys.   Lets make some 


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