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The Hawk

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Posted: Jul. 2, 2012 - 3:58 PM ET #51

Let me get a mil out of petty cash.................

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KittyKatz286

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Posted: Jul. 2, 2012 - 6:27 PM ET #52

this may have been answered already and i apologize if it was but...is this televised anywhere in the states?

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scalabrine

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Posted: Jul. 2, 2012 - 8:15 PM ET #53

Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

Such a sick , sick fold. Like you said makes Helmuth look super-aggressive.

I dont know enough of Ben Lamb to back him, but what I saw from him during the Main event this past year was some quality poker.

Scal, is the live stream pausing every 3 seconds for you also?

My feed was fine the whole night.

11pm to 2am is heavy porn viewing time for average male Americans which is could be the cause of any breaks in feed.

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scalabrine

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Posted: Jul. 2, 2012 - 8:20 PM ET #54

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

How do you ever fold quads? I am dumbfounded.

In a live game, I would say never in an average lifetime.

Unless you are in a high stakes cash game with a million in front of you and you can put your opponent on an overpair and the flop is AK9 (AA/KK vs. your 99) and you both set up and quad up on the turn and river, otherwise, you just eat the loss and in a tournament, I would say you NEVER should lay down quads under any circumstances. The blinds will take you out eventually.

Even here, if you quad up you just eat the loss and leave the tournament. You simply can't lay down 4A's under any circumstances in a lifetime.

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scalabrine

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Posted: Jul. 2, 2012 - 8:52 PM ET #55

Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

this may have been answered already and i apologize if it was but...is this televised anywhere in the states?

https://www.wsop.com/2012/live-video/default.aspx?TID=12155

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scalabrine

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Posted: Jul. 2, 2012 - 8:53 PM ET #56

Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

Laying down quads and someone calls that a good fold? LOL

Only if he had 9s10s, otherwise it was one of the costliest folds in poker history with a hand that big in a million dollar entry tournament.

I'm sure if will be revealed in the coming days whether that fold was good or not when the winner of that hand busts.

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scalabrine

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Posted: Jul. 2, 2012 - 8:55 PM ET #57

Dwan is out. As is Daniel.

Shame...Dwan is such a pleasure to watch...

AA Dwan vs. A10 Daniel vs. 99 Noname.

9 and the flop and noname triples up...

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Iveycheats

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Posted: Jul. 2, 2012 - 8:55 PM ET #58

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Well of course, anyone who knows anything about poker would have to back Ivey first and foremost. He is the most feared cash, tournament and online player that is living today which is coupled with expertise across a broad range of poker disciplines.

The problem with backing Ivey is that he'd never sell a piece of himself as he knows he'd only be losing money doing so given his personal ROI.

Hellmuth is a great tournament player given the 12 bracelets.

I have two problems with him though. What is his tournament ROI given the number of events a year (#60 now)? What does 12 bracelets mean when the WSOP was once one tournament and is now 60?

Still, I give him credit. Three second places last year, all for at least a million I believe, and a bracelet this year makes him one of the most formidable tournament players alive.

His cash game is another story. I believe him to be the worst cash player in the world with the greatest tournament talent.

I have seen virtually all cash game TV poker broadcast and this I believe is the single worst call by a top pro I've ever seen.

And there are MANY other plays by Hellmuth that I've seen in cash game play that are embarrassing even at a $1/$2 NL level.

Here's yet another ridiculously bad play against, like the last hand, an amateur.

I would never back Dwan, Antonious or Isildur. Although they are some of the greatest online talents in the world, if not the top 3, next to Ivey, they have demonstrated they don't have patience to play large tournament fields while Hellmuth and Ivey do.

I would like to back someone who you said, like Elky, a top pro who isn't that big a name like Hellmuth but can still win it all. He is incredibly talented and is patient enough to outlast the all-in fish in early rounds, while extracting enough chips from them to build his stack in the process.

Also, after Mizrachi just won his second $50k in three years, I would willingly back him.

The problem with backing any pro is that some of these guys oversell themselves and then need to lose to avoid owing more people than they can pay. I wouldn't put it past Mizrachi to do something like that.

I also love Oliver Busquet, who once came back from a heads-up 20 to 1

chip deficit at a WPT event. He's incredibly smart and knows all the nuances of modern poker and other players. He is a guy who has evolved with the game and his live commentary online and on ESPN reveals it.

Watch him take out this pretentious drunk nobody.

In regards to Hellmuth, I also find those 2 plays beyond bad....however, when I watched poker more in the past on TV, I felt like Hellmuth made some other very strange plays (especially on Poker After Dark)......at the time, I started to believe that he made these plays sometimes purposely on TV to put certain images or thoughts out there, when that's not how he would usually play (in tournaments or bigger cash games)