No, Im not asking for the Merriam-Webster version. I'm talking about your version? To me, its sexual intercourse. (Anal, oral, or actual sex). Lets throw kissing and touching in there for good measure. Is eating dinner with a friend cheating? Is talking on the phone with a friend cheating? Am I alone in thinking it just has to do with sexual contact described above?
No, Im not asking for the Merriam-Webster version. I'm talking about your version? To me, its sexual intercourse. (Anal, oral, or actual sex). Lets throw kissing and touching in there for good measure. Is eating dinner with a friend cheating? Is talking on the phone with a friend cheating? Am I alone in thinking it just has to do with sexual contact described above?
trust is very important. being jealous is just about the worst thing you can do. Everyone has a different opinion on cheating. Personally, i don't think getting an asian massage followed by a happy ending is cheating. There are no feelings involved. I'm sure most women get finger blasted when they get massages also (). The second feelings are invovled and you are flirting and keeping things secret i consider it cheating. even kissing.....
trust is very important. being jealous is just about the worst thing you can do. Everyone has a different opinion on cheating. Personally, i don't think getting an asian massage followed by a happy ending is cheating. There are no feelings involved. I'm sure most women get finger blasted when they get massages also (). The second feelings are invovled and you are flirting and keeping things secret i consider it cheating. even kissing.....
.....Women with mental disorders assume that any contact with any woman cuts off the ring. (boxing ring).
They are unstable and have traumatic mommy daddy family issues from early life. Set her straight as to exactly who you are and your position is not negotiable.
.....Women with mental disorders assume that any contact with any woman cuts off the ring. (boxing ring).
They are unstable and have traumatic mommy daddy family issues from early life. Set her straight as to exactly who you are and your position is not negotiable.
My spouse wants a divorce based on their version of "cheating", which is having a relationship with someone of the opposite sex minus the sexual part. I feel thats unfair to me as well as the children. No harm, no foul. Unless I had sex with another person, in any way, shape or form, its not cheating. I could sleep (literally) in a bed with someone of the opposite sex, eat dinner with someone of the opposite sex, crochet a sweaterwith someone of the opposite sex, you get my drift. Its not cheating unless sex enters the equation. Period, end of story.
My spouse wants a divorce based on their version of "cheating", which is having a relationship with someone of the opposite sex minus the sexual part. I feel thats unfair to me as well as the children. No harm, no foul. Unless I had sex with another person, in any way, shape or form, its not cheating. I could sleep (literally) in a bed with someone of the opposite sex, eat dinner with someone of the opposite sex, crochet a sweaterwith someone of the opposite sex, you get my drift. Its not cheating unless sex enters the equation. Period, end of story.
Just to touch on something described earlier, I guess you can say there are shades of gray. Not just black and white as sex or no sex. BUT..I guess what I should've really titled the thread is "why does no one stay married these days"? Whatever happened to being married for 20 years +? Is that going extinct in this day and age? People find loopholes like this, pretend you're cheating--when you're not, and then leave. Marriage is over. Done. Vows are not taken seriously. Its a shame, especially when the children involved ultimately suffer the long term effects. If there are no kids from the marriage, then leave. Who the fuck cares? But, when you have kids involved I feel a real reason should be warranted instead of made up ones. #my2centsonthematter
Just to touch on something described earlier, I guess you can say there are shades of gray. Not just black and white as sex or no sex. BUT..I guess what I should've really titled the thread is "why does no one stay married these days"? Whatever happened to being married for 20 years +? Is that going extinct in this day and age? People find loopholes like this, pretend you're cheating--when you're not, and then leave. Marriage is over. Done. Vows are not taken seriously. Its a shame, especially when the children involved ultimately suffer the long term effects. If there are no kids from the marriage, then leave. Who the fuck cares? But, when you have kids involved I feel a real reason should be warranted instead of made up ones. #my2centsonthematter
I have heard people talk about emotional affairs where nothing physical happens and never will... but some say it is emotional affairs where people get emotionally consumed is worse then going to a strip club and getting a lap dance ymmv...
I have heard people talk about emotional affairs where nothing physical happens and never will... but some say it is emotional affairs where people get emotionally consumed is worse then going to a strip club and getting a lap dance ymmv...
No, Im not asking for the Merriam-Webster version. I'm talking about your version? To me, its sexual intercourse. (Anal, oral, or actual sex). Lets throw kissing and touching in there for good measure. Is eating dinner with a friend cheating? Is talking on the phone with a friend cheating? Am I alone in thinking it just has to do with sexual contact described above?
If you ask a guy eating dinner with a woman or chatting her up, or kissing her.. that is not really cheating.
No, Im not asking for the Merriam-Webster version. I'm talking about your version? To me, its sexual intercourse. (Anal, oral, or actual sex). Lets throw kissing and touching in there for good measure. Is eating dinner with a friend cheating? Is talking on the phone with a friend cheating? Am I alone in thinking it just has to do with sexual contact described above?
If you ask a guy eating dinner with a woman or chatting her up, or kissing her.. that is not really cheating.
Hold on here, let 's get this straight. If you have a dinner or chat up with a coworker, it's not cheating. If he's no longer a coworker and an old friend , it's not cheating. If it's simply a friend- not cheating.
Hold on here, let 's get this straight. If you have a dinner or chat up with a coworker, it's not cheating. If he's no longer a coworker and an old friend , it's not cheating. If it's simply a friend- not cheating.
If you're meeting her alone for dinner or movie or club on a nightly or even weekly basis all while not telling your spouse....that could be cheating, even without the sex. If you're not upfront and sneaking around, there's a problem.
Then again, if you're already cheating then tell you're if you're cheating anyway then you might as well fuck her. See how that goes over.
If you're meeting her alone for dinner or movie or club on a nightly or even weekly basis all while not telling your spouse....that could be cheating, even without the sex. If you're not upfront and sneaking around, there's a problem.
Then again, if you're already cheating then tell you're if you're cheating anyway then you might as well fuck her. See how that goes over.
It's pretty damn simple if you ask me. If you are doing of plan on doing something without telling your significant other it is cheating. Bottom line. Whether it be just dinner or sleeping with someone. If you don't want the other one to find out you clearly are doing something you know is wrong.
It's pretty damn simple if you ask me. If you are doing of plan on doing something without telling your significant other it is cheating. Bottom line. Whether it be just dinner or sleeping with someone. If you don't want the other one to find out you clearly are doing something you know is wrong.
It's pretty damn simple if you ask me. If you are doing of plan on doing something without telling your significant other it is cheating. Bottom line. Whether it be just dinner or sleeping with someone. If you don't want the other one to find out you clearly are doing something you know is wrong.
Agreed
This seems to be kind of a "DUH" answer if you ask me
It's pretty damn simple if you ask me. If you are doing of plan on doing something without telling your significant other it is cheating. Bottom line. Whether it be just dinner or sleeping with someone. If you don't want the other one to find out you clearly are doing something you know is wrong.
Agreed
This seems to be kind of a "DUH" answer if you ask me
Ask yourself this... Physical activity or not, if your wife was doing the same things that are doing with another guy would you be happy?
It is easy to say some one is overreacting here but what would you do if you caught your wife texting, going out to dinner with, talking on the phone, talking about etc... with another guy?
No harm no foul? really ?
Point is do your thing if you must but don't act like your wife (or any of us for that matter) are naive.
Ask yourself this... Physical activity or not, if your wife was doing the same things that are doing with another guy would you be happy?
It is easy to say some one is overreacting here but what would you do if you caught your wife texting, going out to dinner with, talking on the phone, talking about etc... with another guy?
No harm no foul? really ?
Point is do your thing if you must but don't act like your wife (or any of us for that matter) are naive.
I wasn't hiding what I was doing. If I was going to eat dinner with a friend, I disclosed it. I could see my spouses point if I were sneaking around, that seems suspect then. But to be on the up and up about it, I dont see what the big deal is. I met a friend at a restaurant, we ate, and we drove home in seperate cars. Occasionally, I would talk on the phone or text a friend, while my spouse was around. There are other things, but I was open about everything. Is that grounds for a divorce? Really!? The bottom line is nothing I did was sneaky. I believe in honesty in a relationship. If you have to hide what you're doing, perhaps you shouldn't be doing it to begin with. Whatever happened to marriage counseling? Working on a compromise towards whatever the issue may be in the marriage, so the kids dont have to deal with visitation, split holidays and everything a divorce entails. Maybe I'm old fashioned in my views. Oh well..
I wasn't hiding what I was doing. If I was going to eat dinner with a friend, I disclosed it. I could see my spouses point if I were sneaking around, that seems suspect then. But to be on the up and up about it, I dont see what the big deal is. I met a friend at a restaurant, we ate, and we drove home in seperate cars. Occasionally, I would talk on the phone or text a friend, while my spouse was around. There are other things, but I was open about everything. Is that grounds for a divorce? Really!? The bottom line is nothing I did was sneaky. I believe in honesty in a relationship. If you have to hide what you're doing, perhaps you shouldn't be doing it to begin with. Whatever happened to marriage counseling? Working on a compromise towards whatever the issue may be in the marriage, so the kids dont have to deal with visitation, split holidays and everything a divorce entails. Maybe I'm old fashioned in my views. Oh well..
I dont understand...you disclosed everything to her. So if she knew all about it and and was mad about it and told you she was mad and didn't like it, and you continued to do so I guess I can see why she might want a divorce.
BUT if she didn't have a problem with it and you did this and now she is threatening to divorce you then she is a flat out whacko.
I dont understand...you disclosed everything to her. So if she knew all about it and and was mad about it and told you she was mad and didn't like it, and you continued to do so I guess I can see why she might want a divorce.
BUT if she didn't have a problem with it and you did this and now she is threatening to divorce you then she is a flat out whacko.
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