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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Ah, finally some stats and the oft-used unfailing 'murder rate' stats (which will always be on hand no matter what whites do in comparison with regard to mass murder through terrorism or just plain massacre as seen in OKC, Aurora, Newton where 20 5/6 year olds 
were executed, and now Boston; none of that matters because black homicide is sky high people!)

And your point is what? That's blacks are a vile, heinous, defective race in comparison to whom, whites? 

I want to know because no one ever follows this point.

Is it all blacks? What about Black women? Are they included? Children? Grandparents too?

Follow through Train! Take up the white mantle and tell us what those stats mean in relation to your race because those stats are the favs of the posters here!

So now murder rate are  ?

You asked for stats and quotes, I gave you stats and quotes. Actually, I gave you charts and graphs and the whole 9 yards. I backed up what I said. What else do you want?

Its not all blacks. Its a very tiny % that ruin it for the rest. You are much more likely to be killed by a black person than a white person, mass shooting or not. That is just reality. Is it not?

Those stats simply mean that blacks make up 13% of the population, but commit 52% of the murders. Those are facts. They cant be racist.

Are those numbers accurate? Is the link I posted accurate?

 
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He's the Spin Doc!
Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Ah, finally some stats and the oft-used unfailing 'murder rate' stats (which will always be on hand no matter what whites do in comparison with regard to mass murder through terrorism or just plain massacre as seen in OKC, Aurora, Newton where 20 5/6 year olds 
were executed, and now Boston; none of that matters because black homicide is sky high people!)

And your point is what? That's blacks are a vile, heinous, defective race in comparison to whom, whites? 

I want to know because no one ever follows this point.

Is it all blacks? What about Black women? Are they included? Children? Grandparents too?

Follow through Train! Take up the white mantle and tell us what those stats mean in relation to your race because those stats are the favs of the posters here!

Its not sky high. Its been #1 for a long time, with nobody really close. Would take a lot more drive bys to make the murder rate "sky rocket"

 
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Posted: #154
Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Well you should care because you are denying knowing my race even though you've been in dozens dozens of my threads (and you conveniently missed it) and then you say I am inferior to my own race (something racism entails).

No how exactly does that make sense?
So are calling me a liar? I mean thats your explanation. No facts. Nothing. Just that I didnt know something. So you can blame being blind in all your ways on me not knowing your race.

AND ALL CAPS SO MAYBE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND!!!! I DONT CARE YOUR RACE! ALL OF MY STATEMENTS WOULD BE THE SAME!!! SOMETHING YOU CANT SAY!!
 
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So now murder rate are  ?

You asked for stats and quotes, I gave you stats and quotes. Actually, I gave you charts and graphs and the whole 9 yards. I backed up what I said. What else do you want?

Its not all blacks. Its a very tiny % that ruin it for the rest. You are much more likely to be killed by a black person than a white person, mass shooting or not. That is just reality. Is it not?

Those stats simply mean that blacks make up 13% of the population, but commit 52% of the murders. Those are facts. They cant be racist.

Are those numbers accurate? Is the link I posted accurate?


No first you grossly exaggerated stats off the top of your head. And 
murder rates are not 'ZZZ' as evidenced by the massacres carried out by your own race to rip this country apart at its core.


So tell me why the 'tiny %' of black murders ruin it for the rest as though all black males are suspect, but when it's a white person who is going in a school and blowing holes in 20 children, or shooting up a movie theater, or collapsing federal buildings onto day care centers, or blowing the legs off of fans of a race, or mailing ricin to senators and the president and on and on and on (that's just in the past year save OKC!):

Why is it when whites, who are by far more active then blacks at inflicting mass terror on their own country, which changes laws, which reigns in on civil rights, which shuts down cities, which drains budgets in a single day, why is it that when we quote dozens and dozens of instances of white terror in this country, it is not white terror at all, it is jihad or mental disorders or just a 'senseless' crime, but when black murder rates are on the table it is ALL about blacks.

The good thing is that 100 years from now, people like you will no longer walk this earth because you do not want equality. You want to degrade, deride and destroy just as the history of this country has taught you to do and you willingly oblige.

Have a nice life. I'm glad ill never meet you or the other dopes who leech off your crap.

Like a mother bird feeding its chicks, you up chuck the same.    old.   arguments.    ignoring debates in a larger context.

Do you really believe black murder rates have not been used in such a debate before?

Wake up child. For me to even extensively broach such a topic is a waste because you simply can't even get past the above argument, nevermind a more sophisticated one.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries21:

So are calling me a liar? I mean thats your explanation. No facts. Nothing. Just that I didnt know something. So you can blame being blind in all your ways on me not knowing your race.

AND ALL CAPS SO MAYBE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND!!!! I DONT CARE YOUR RACE! ALL OF MY STATEMENTS WOULD BE THE SAME!!! SOMETHING YOU CANT SAY!!

You should care and yes I am calling you a liar. But whether you are a liar or not doesn't matter.

Why care? Well it's key to you avoiding the question I've already asked many here.

How is it that a white person is racist against their own race? See you could simply accuse a black person of racism no matter what they say but not here.

Were white abolitionist of yesteryear racist? You do know they were accused of being so in almost the EXACT same way you are accusing me of being racist...against my own race...that I think whites are inferior to blacks, that my message is not of equality but inferiority.

That is what you are saying whether you know it or not.

So now that you know, how am I racist....against my own race (which no one has ever answered in all seriousness effectively)?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


No first you grossly exaggerated stats off the top of your head. And 
murder rates are not 'ZZZ' as evidenced by the massacres carried out by your own race to rip this country apart at its core.


So tell me why the 'tiny %' of black murders ruin it for the rest as though all black males are suspect, but when it's a white person who is going in a school and blowing holes in 20 children, or shooting up a movie theater, or collapsing federal buildings onto day care centers, or blowing the legs off of fans of a race, or mailing ricin to senators and the president and on and on and on (that's just in the past year save OKC!):

Why is it when whites, who are by far more active then blacks at inflicting mass terror on their own country, which changes laws, which reigns in on civil rights, which shuts down cities, which drains budgets in a single day, why is it that when we quote dozens and dozens of instances of white terror in this country, it is not white terror at all, it is jihad or mental disorders or just a 'senseless' crime, but when black murder rates are on the table it is ALL about blacks.

The good thing is that 100 years from now, people like you will no longer walk this earth because you do not want equality. You want to degrade, deride and destroy just as the history of this country has taught you to do and you willingly oblige.

Have a nice life. I'm glad ill never meet you or the other dopes who leech off your crap.

Like a mother bird feeding its chicks, you up chuck the same.    old.   arguments.    ignoring debates in a larger context.

Do you really believe black murder rates have not been used in such a debate before?

Wake up child. For me to even extensively broach such a topic is a waste because you simply can't even get past the above argument, nevermind a more sophisticated one.

The flaw in your argument is you think 6 people killing a hundred people is worse than 100 people killing 1 person each.

Can you see that your logic is flawed? For me to even extensively broach this topic I would have to drop an IQ level or 2.....

Terror? Walk down ANY Martin Luther King Ave at 2 am.....

Now, would you be more afraid to let your child go to school/watch a race, or go to Harlem or Compton and walk around after dark.

 
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I'll ask again, what is you point with quoting black murder rates and saying it 'ruins' it for the rest of them when although 1 person killing 100 is different than 100 killing 100, the 1 to 100 shapes policy, societies, budgets, and worse societal fear, but that fear is NEVER race based in whiteness because that would be to admit a personal flaw and worst of all, that small percentage doesn't ruin it for the eat of whites like you say it does for blacks?

So you tell me, which is really worse in the aggregate on a societal and national level because to say inner city violence with a 1 to 1 ratio of murder although larger in total is worse than the Boston bombing, and OKC and aurora and newton and on and on and on  is to lie to yourself, but of course you can attempt to construct an argument with that premise (but you will fail it's so brutally obvious which defines nation).
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


You should care and yes I am calling you a liar. But whether you are a liar or not doesn't matter.

Why care? Well it's key to you avoiding the question I've already asked many here.

How is it that a white person is racist against their own race? See you could simply accuse a black person of racism no matter what they say but not here.

Were white abolitionist of yesteryear racist? You do know they were accused of being so in almost the EXACT same way you are accusing me of being racist...against my own race...that I think whites are inferior to blacks, that my message is not of equality but inferiority.

That is what you are saying whether you know it or not.

So now that you know, how am I racist....against my own race (which no one has ever answered in all seriousness effectively)?
I am pretty much done with you. I am not a liar. I have no reason to lie. Matter fact I struggle to handle those that blatantly lie (Which I have learned is YOU). Anyway.

Do you know the definition of a racist or the doctrine of racism? Its the simple thought that one race is superior to other. Matter of fact by definition you are about as racist as it gets with your thoughts.

At you keep avoiding the point that I make saying I DONT CARE WHAT RACE YOU ARE. you choose to pay attention to what you want and not the complete post. You have issues 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

I'll ask again, what is you point with quoting black murder rates and saying it 'ruins' it for the rest of them when although 1 person killing 100 is different than 100 killing 100, the 1 to 100 shapes policy, societies, budgets, and worse societal fear, but that fear is NEVER race based in whiteness because that would be to admit a personal flaw and worst of all, that small percentage doesn't ruin it for the eat of whites like you say it does for blacks?

So you tell me, which is really worse in the aggregate on a societal and national level because to say inner city violence with a 1 to 1 ratio of murder although larger in total is worse than the Boston bombing, and OKC and aurora and newton and on and on and on  is to lie to yourself, but of course you can attempt to construct an argument with that premise (but you will fail it's so brutally obvious which defines nation).

Its worse, because it GONNA happen daily. The bad element is already in place all over the US. Black people are simply gonna kill more people than white, thats a fact. Its not racist.

White people dont fear white people because an encounter "with a terrorist" is way more unlikely than getting car jacked or robbed. Does that make sense.

Of course there are crazy people of all races. Like I said, white people killed a bunch of people at the same time. It is horrible. A bunch of black people killed a bunch of people randomly. Its horrible too.....

Do you not see the point I'm making? I understand your point completely: america is racist, always has been and its unfair in almost every way to non whites (does that encompass it?")  I understand that my point of view is thrown out because I am obviously biased being white, but would you not admit there is some validity? 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


 
 
 
The good thing is that 100 years from now, people like you will no longer walk this earth because you do not want equality.   
 
Shut up you sick sad POS. It would be so good if people like you did not walk this earth today. You need help. Badly.
Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
 
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the mother is a shoplifter. wow. i just found that out today
 
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Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries21:

I am pretty much done with you. I am not a liar. I have no reason to lie. Matter fact I struggle to handle those that blatantly lie (Which I have learned is YOU). Anyway.

Do you know the definition of a racist or the doctrine of racism? Its the simple thought that one race is superior to other. Matter of fact by definition you are about as racist as it gets with your thoughts.

At you keep avoiding the point that I make saying I DONT CARE WHAT RACE YOU ARE. you choose to pay attention to what you want and not the complete post. You have issues 

YOU SHOULD CARE, because you are saying that a white person is racist against there own race, that is, that all other races are SUPERIOR to their own (which of course is what I was asking YOU when I used the word inferior and then YOU ask ME, if I know the definition of racism when the point is you don't even understand the term).

Now when have I said that any race is superior to the white race or even implied it?

Is this thread racist? 

These are questions you can't answer because the answer makes no sense.

How can a white person be racist against whites? It is a paradox.


I will say this one time: calling out white privilege as a white person is not racist although the very first people who will say it is racist (in the most imbecilic fashion), are those who are bigots against non-white races. And viola! They are all here! 

So let the whole forum know how a white person is racist...against whites...
 
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I fear white people. 

That's why I didn't bet gonzaga in this tourney. Just something you can't put trust in is when a 7 foot Canuck is the star of the show. Although, I did take Indiana to go to the final four I was riding on Oladipo to come through.
 
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These are questions you can't answer because the answer makes no sense.

How can a white person be racist against whites? It is a paradox.
A white person can totally be racist against their own kind.  Many of my black friends are racists against their own race. I don't like many groups within the white spectrum so I'm a racists to me own people. It's life 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Its worse, because it GONNA happen daily. The bad element is already in place all over the US. Black people are simply gonna kill more people than white, thats a fact. Its not racist.

White people dont fear white people because an encounter "with a terrorist" is way more unlikely than getting car jacked or robbed. Does that make sense.

Of course there are crazy people of all races. Like I said, white people killed a bunch of people at the same time. It is horrible. A bunch of black people killed a bunch of people randomly. Its horrible too.....

Do you not see the point I'm making? I understand your point completely: america is racist, always has been and its unfair in almost every way to non whites (does that encompass it?")  I understand that my point of view is thrown out because I am obviously biased being white, but would you not admit there is some validity? 


No it doesn't make sense because it is not true.

You are saying inner city murders are worse than The Boston bombing, aurora and newton etc etc etc

The cost of this Boston bombing was astronomical. It is now the driving force behind immigration debate.

Newton started a national conversation about armed guards and teachers in schools, a national gun registry and more public policy on gun limitations.

Aurora gripped the nation for months and also started a national gun debate that lent itself to the shaping of policy.

All of these things affected budgets and the law itself and made people parents and families feel less safe and more paranoid.

And your counter to this is getting carjacked or robbed by black criminals? 

The reason those things matter little to whites is because whites are unaffected by them. They do not live in inner cities and won't go near them for the most part. Taking black crime stats in the aggregate and comparing it to terrorism, child slaughter or random killings, the most recent of which is a losing argument even if the death toll is minor compared to the stats you cite. The latter does far more damage to society, but does so independent of a race label because the dominant intellectual culture won't allow it.

 
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These are questions you can't answer because the answer makes no sense.

How can a white person be racist against whites? It is a paradox.
A white person can totally be racist against their own kind.  Many of my black friends are racists against their own race. I don't like many groups within the white spectrum so I'm a racists to me own people. It's life 

How can a black person be superior or inferior to a black person just based on race alone?

It is a paradox, a logical fallacy.

Saying a black person is racist against their own race is saying that the speaker is superior, when they are of that race, which makes the racist aspect impossible.

You can use the word ashamed perhaps, but not racist. The very definition of the word disallows you to do this.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


How can a black person be superior or inferior to a black person just based on race alone?

It is a paradox, a logical fallacy.

Saying a black person is racist against their own race is saying that the speaker is superior, when they are of that race, which makes the racist aspect impossible.

You can use the word ashamed perhaps, but not racist. The very definition of the word disallows you to do this.

I'm sad to say this, but I think I have to side with Scal here.  You say you are racist against certain other white people.  "I don't like many groups within the white spectrum," was your exact quote. That's not racism.  If you were racist against white people, it would apply to all white people.  There is obviously something about these "many groups," other than just being white which draw your ire.  

I don't like skinheads.  That doesn't mean I'm racist against whites. It means I don't like skinheads because of what they stand for. 

Big difference.  


 
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i've seen a black ticket police meter lady give out tickets to white folks but not to black folks, yes the blk guy was in his car and yes the white guy was in his car.

same time too!
 
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I'm sad to say this, but I think I have to side with Scal here.  You say you are racist against certain other white people.  "I don't like many groups within the white spectrum," was your exact quote. That's not racism.  If you were racist against white people, it would apply to all white people.  There is obviously something about these "many groups," other than just being white which draw your ire.  

I don't like skinheads.  That doesn't mean I'm racist against whites. It means I don't like skinheads because of what they stand for. 

Big difference.  



Thank you.

No Worries, I hereby transfer all argumentation on this topic to Hutch. If you think whites are racist against whites or blacks are racist against blacks, take it up with him.

Life isn't a Dave Chapelle skit for comedic purposes.

I am tired of being called a racist when the terminology is continually misused day in, day out on this site. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


How can a black person be superior or inferior to a black person just based on race alone?

It is a paradox, a logical fallacy.

Saying a black person is racist against their own race is saying that the speaker is superior, when they are of that race, which makes the racist aspect impossible.

You can use the word ashamed perhaps, but not racist. The very definition of the word disallows you to do this.
I can see that when using the direct definition. Maybe prejudice is a better word that should have been used. I think the word if taken by the pure definition is overused, but that's the society we grew up in. People tend to take things to the extreme when arguing or having a debate.

So how can you call half of the people in here racist? Is it the belief that one race is superior in all aspects or just certain ones?How do you personally define it because that's a word that you throw out a lot and maybe that's where a lot of the issues you have with others arise.

I think I can safely say that 90 percent of the people you have problems with don't have the fundamental belief that their race is superior to another in all aspects. Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt it.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Thank you.

No Worries, I hereby transfer all argumentation on this topic to Hutch. If you think whites are racist against whites or blacks are racist against blacks, take it up with him.

Life isn't a Dave Chapelle skit for comedic purposes.

I am tired of being called a racist when the terminology is continually misused day in, day out on this site. 

I'll bet you popped wood when someone finally agreed with your BS

Stop being tired of being called something you are without a doubt one of. Hands down the biggest one I have ever seen.

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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Thank you.

No Worries, I hereby transfer all argumentation on this topic to Hutch. If you think whites are racist against whites or blacks are racist against blacks, take it up with him.

Life isn't a Dave Chapelle skit for comedic purposes.

I am tired of being called a racist when the terminology is continually misused day in, day out on this site. 
Well I think you are just a liar. You are not a white male . You just made that up. I mean you thought that I was liar so maybe that is the answer. You are just a liar. It makes you feel like a bigger/better person to write all this bs.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


No it doesn't make sense because it is not true.

You are saying inner city murders are worse than The Boston bombing, aurora and newton etc etc etc

The cost of this Boston bombing was astronomical. It is now the driving force behind immigration debate.

Newton started a national conversation about armed guards and teachers in schools, a national gun registry and more public policy on gun limitations.

Aurora gripped the nation for months and also started a national gun debate that lent itself to the shaping of policy.

All of these things affected budgets and the law itself and made people parents and families feel less safe and more paranoid.

And your counter to this is getting carjacked or robbed by black criminals? 

The reason those things matter little to whites is because whites are unaffected by them. They do not live in inner cities and won't go near them for the most part. Taking black crime stats in the aggregate and comparing it to terrorism, child slaughter or random killings, the most recent of which is a losing argument even if the death toll is minor compared to the stats you cite. The latter does far more damage to society, but does so independent of a race label because the dominant intellectual culture won't allow it.

So there are parts of the country white people wont go based on who is living there, but because bombings "shape policy", they are more important/terrible?

Now you tell me what "effects" this country more.....

 

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:


I'm sad to say this, but I think I have to side with Scal here.  You say you are racist against certain other white people.  "I don't like many groups within the white spectrum," was your exact quote. That's not racism.  If you were racist against white people, it would apply to all white people.  There is obviously something about these "many groups," other than just being white which draw your ire.  

I don't like skinheads.  That doesn't mean I'm racist against whites. It means I don't like skinheads because of what they stand for. 

Big difference.  


Thats common sense. hating certain people of a certain race doesnt make you racist, it makes you aware of your surroundings.

Scal cant grasp this. He thinks whites that hate certain blacks are flawed. That in turn makes him unaware if his surroundings.....

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