Roulette FANS lets TALK--

Ok for those of who you play Roulette let's talk---

I have been playing Roulette lately and winning regularly and using some of my intelligence with patterns, probability combined with mechanics and human TOUCH i feel like i am doing well.

I think I stumbled upon a guaranteed winner for roulette - I go to a casino with 4-6 tables.  I get $5 chips but i make sure they're nickels so i can play at any of the tables.  I then stand back and just watch for 15-20 minutes, I look for people that seem to be having a lucky night - then i just piggyback their luck!

There is a lot of mistakes players do in this game--

From a HOUSE EDGE this is not the best game to play, as it is 5.2%$  HOUSE EDGE with a 0 and 00 --

The Edge goes to 2.6% HOUSE EDGE with only a SINGLE 0-

It is true that BALL HAS NO MEMORY, so logically speaking the PAST DOES NOT MATTER IN ROULETTE ACCORDING TO STUDIES AND MANY GENIUSES in the world--

SO they say the Screen that shows the last 20 numbers is something that PLAYERS lose a lot money thinking that the NEXT number will be effected by the last NUMBER that came out--

This is a Gamblers FALLACY and the CASINO has no problem listing the last 20 numbers that came through----

Having extensive experience in mathematics I believe there is ANOTHER SIDE to the BALL HAS NO MEMORY THEORY--

This is TRUE but in statistical probability if we SPIN the wheel 36 times, we are not going to get numbers 1 to 36 coming out- We will have some REPEATS of numbers---

Huge house edge.

When you add up all the numbers on the roulette table the total comes to 666.

 

I have a few things that i started looking at and I really did well predicting the numbers----

Roulette is RANDOM and predicting numbers is 100% RANDOM--

OR IS IT?

People will say SAMMY u are CRAZY, you have lost it, I would tell them I dont believe the Roulette Table is 100% Random, meaning I dont believe every number has the same percentage of coming up in any given SPIN----

The REASONS I suggest are the following that I observed----

- The WHEEL might be not 100% balanced leading to certain AREAS in the wheel that the BALL drops in--

-The Numbers themselves may not be 100% equal and some may have small imperfections that result in the ball falling in them more than others--

-Dealer is throwing the ball with the same SPEED on consecutive throws which means you can assure that he is throwing it at the SAME SPEED X the rate at which the wheel is going in a circle and you can predict roughly which quadrant the ball will land in.

-Using PROBABILITY vs the Casino- going with the TABLE ENERGY-  If you spin a wheel 1000 times, you will find that numbers will come out in streaks--

EX- if you play # 7 and it WINS, the next spin does it have a better chance of coming through or should you leave the money on #7?

The answer is IT HAS the SAME SHOT, unless there is an imperfection on the table or the wheel is not straight, it could lead to ONE NUMBER falling a lot more--

You should leave your WINNING NUMBER as the numbers can repeat---

The odds of a number coming out are 1 in 37, but that does not mean the SAME number cannot come out twice in a row---

Sometimes if a DEALER is repeating numbers, it means they might be UNCONSCOUSLY throwing the ball with a low speed and resulting in the same number coming up---

- A dealer that SPINS the ball harder, is tougher to predict because the BALL goes through many more rotations than someone who SPINS the ball a lot slower--

Ex- If a dealer is SPINNIG hard, ball rotates 20 times around the wheel making it hard to analayse---

If a Dealer is spinning SLOW, ball rotates 10 times aruond the wheel making it easier to analyze where the ball might land because it went around 10 less times to begin with----

Ex- I was tracking the TABLE For a few HOURS  last night----

I noticed the 0 and 00 did not come through for EVER it seemed like--

So in terms of probability it was DUE or was it DUE?

IMO it was DUE and IT WAS NOT DUE---  IT was due in terms of the fact that it had not came out for a LONG TIME--

However it was no MORE DUE NOW than it was in any of the 1000 previous SPINS----

So i figured the Dealer was DUE TO AT LEAST GET CLOSE TO THE ZERO OR DOUBLE ZERO--
I told this guy at the TABLE that is what will happen----

I bet the 0 and 00 and the 2 numbers right beside the 0 and 00--

Sure enough the dealer rolled a 0--  I WON that BET---

Then I knew from the probability that since it hadnt came up for EVER, and it came out, it would make sense in a pattern that it comes through again within the next 5 spins--

On the 3rd SPIN she rolled another ZERO and i won again----

 Riiiiiiiiiight. I'm sure that many before you shared some of your insights.

Lastly I noticed the LOW numbers had not came up for a long long time---

Then when a LOW number came, I figured you know what, it has not came up for a while, WHY CANT I GO ABOUT 4 to 5 SPINS with only LOW NUMBERS coming up---

Once again the TABLE laughed and said its all LUCK---

Well after I WAS RIGHT and it was a low number meaning 1-8 the next 4 spins in a row--

I placed bets on those numbers, with combonations and was winning every TIME because I predicted the right area of the wheel--

I figure that PEOPLe try to change the pattern and think it will go from LOW to HIGH to Medium back and forth--

What I find, is that the ODDS always say the next SPIN should change to a different number and from LOW to HIGH to MEDIUM and like that---

However Numbers come out STREAKY, when you spin a roulette WHEEL thousands of times, which I DO, I have my own roulette wheel the amount of times numbers repeat in an area-- ie numbers 15-24 keep coming up in 4 to 5 spins in a row is startling--

Of course the numbers can go completely RANDOM-- it could go 1 2 3 4  5 6 7 8 9 10 ---

Patterns exist in roulette, you have to have a FEEL for the table and understand the feel for the numbers----

Good Luck.

I will be watching this roulette system closely.

i use the same system when i dabble sammy. the tables have cards with the wheel layout. i look for a table where the ball seems to be landing in the same "quarter or quadrant of the wheel. like you say.. some dealers look for a spot they release on every time.

I have a thread on this somewhere.........check my Atlantic City thread for my never fail roulette strategy 

I factor in that their wheels are fairly old and I dont believe they can ever make a wheel 100% RANDOM---

WIND could even play a role in numbers falling, the motion from people walking past the wheel could have an effect on the ball--

All these factors could lead to a ball falling in a certain area of the wheel----

This is a game that I think is almost RANDOM but not 100% random---

If a dealer wanted to, I think they can accurately throw the BALL in a certain part of the wheel--

MONEY MANAGEMENT Imo like in sports GAMBLING gives us a HUGE EDGE over other roulette players-----

Ex- TYPICAL ROULETTE PLAYER plays like a MORON--

You have all seen these people, they are dropping chips it seems on about 60% of the board stacking heavy on 1 or 2 numbers---

Well this is BAD MONEY MANAGEMENT and they are RISKING way too much money PER SPIN--

In a game with a 5.2% HOUSE EDGE it is important to play MORE SPINS and bet smaller per SPIN---

I started with $100 with $1 chips, I would bet anywhere from about 3 to 7 chips per SPIN---

This way I was able to survive at the start UNTIL SAMMY GOT HOT, then after it was said and done I HAD all the CASINOS CHIPS for my colour which was $500-- I thought it was a good sign to leave when you have all of your DESIGNATED colour----

So I go in SMALL every time with the THINKING that I AM going to PREDICT roughly where the BALL will land---

EVERY OTHER ROULETTE PLAYER LOST because they have no MONEY MANAGEMENT SKILLS--

Its like a guy with a $2000 sports account and he BETS it all one ONE GAME with 3 different BETS---  You are risking a LOT on a game where the HOUSE EDGE is 5.2%---

So i believe more than ANYTHING having sports gambling experience helps with you ROULETTE MONEY MANAGEMENT--

PS--- WHAT ARE THE ROULETTE NUMBERS THAT YOU FEEL COME UP MORE ON TABLES---

I ALWAYS SEE 17-20 BLACK -- they seem to be popular everywhere.

Why am I doing this......

So you are telling me that you are capable of identifying an anomoly to a roulette wheels randomness by observing it for 20 spins?  100 spins?  1000 spins?

Back to statistics school.  Go google standard deviations and let us know how many weeks you would have to stand at a roulette wheel to determine if these patterns are variance or true expectations.

But what the hell do I know.  I guess if you can judge the wind at a roulette table, or the dealers mood that day, you could be rich like all of the other PROFESSIONAL ROULETTE PLAYERS IN THE WORLD. 

Best #s :  4,7,14,17,24,27

my advice for roulette is dont play on the ones that have double 00, i see so many fools playing the roulette tables with the single 0 and the double 00 greens  evn though there is a roulette table in the same room with just one 0 (1 green)

Sammy -

Im going to make this short and sweet......

Your premise is totally mathematically wrong.  Couldnt be farther from the truth.

It doesnt matter if you bet 20 bets per "spin" or 1 bet per "spin" for 20 spins.  You have the exact same EV - which IS NEGATIVE.  The house always has an advantage on every bet, so it deosnt matter if you bet it all on the first spin, or bet it all over 50 spins - IT DOESNT MATTER - both players are going to have the same EV.

This is the golden rule of casino gambling:

If every bet on the board has a negative EV, there is no combination or series of wagers that can make that a positive EV.  In your case, if every wager is -5.2%, if you bet $1,000 on one spin or $1,000 over 100 spins, you both have the exact same negative EV.

 

VAN, to get an idea of any PATTERN or if a WHEEL is not RANDOM and it is BIASED you would have to stand there for weeks-----

It would take thousands of SPINS to find the DATA that there exists a definite PATTERN with an AREA of the wheel or on a CERTAIN number--

IF YOU FIND this, you have to be sure that you find this before the CASINO FINDS It----

The CASINOs are also checking for biased wheels----

I do think though VANZACK, its not about studying the wheel for thousands of SPINS its more about having a FEEL for numbers and the way Patterns FORM---

After all you see a PATTERN off the past 20 numbers, if YOU ARE GOOD AT PREDICTING PATTERNS YOU WILL WIN---

I find that you need to get a feel for numbers and how they repeat and how you feel the WHEEL will go--

Of course there is LUCK involved, because anyone can say, well the odds are still the same it could land anywhere--

They are RIGHT, but there are people who have made millions on roulette from the casino---

QUESTION-- Is there factors LIKE WIND and people near the WHEEL and other FACTORS that we have failed to REALIZE, like a dirty BALL or GREASY Dealers hands that could have an effect on the ball?

is there factors that we are not EVEN considering which leads to crazy patterns in the wheel, or is it just the nature of NUMBERS and the way they REPEAT----

VAN you are correct about the NEGATIVE EV----

It is for that EXACT REASON that you intelligently stated that there is NO LEGIT SYSTEM TO BEAT ROULETTE because every BET always has a NEGATIVE EV----

However that is assuming the game is 100% RANDOM, and that can only be accomplished with a RANDOM NUMBER Generator and an UNBIASED WHEEl--

You are right there is no SYSTEM to win and ALL BETS ARE LOSING IN TERMS OF ODDS----

THey pay you 35 to 1 on a bet that is supposed to be 37 to 1---

However VAN I think you are not understanding my point---

What I said since there is a NEGATIVE EV on every single SPIN it would not make sense to BET more on a spin and would make sense to bet less  because of the NEGATIVE EV---

It does not make your odds better, but it does give you a better chance of winning money as I THINK in a negative EV game you need to stay in the game longer.

Oh dear. 

I have never been more confident in saying the following:  your gambling future is grim, please consider never gambling again.

No, it is you who is not understand THE point (not mine, not yours, BUT THE MATHEMATICAL POINT).....

There is no advantage to "staying in the game longer".  There is no advantage to betting less over more spins vs betting more over less spins.

Sorry Sammy - but Im not going to debate you for very long here - this is math 101, and you are on the wrong side of this - and I have a feeling it is going to cost you some money.

In a negative EV game the longer you stay the more chance you'll leave down. IF you're going to play these sucker games, hope you win fast and get out.

You need a starting point with regards to patterns----

When you use the last few numbers its a starting point and then you can use that starting pattern---

That is the method needed to start a pattern---

The winning rouletter players basically predict patterns by using the information on the last few numbers that came out---

i will let you guys know how I am doing with the new ideas----


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