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    President Obama says he’s sorry for Americans losing insurance plans

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    Daddy_Freddie
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 2:17 AM ET #1

    President Obama said in an interview on Thursday that he’s sorry a number of Americans are being forced to change their health care plans despite previous assurances the Affordable Care Act would allow them to keep their existing plans.

    "I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me," Obama told Chuck Todd during an interview with NBC News at the White House.

    "We've got to work hard to make sure that they know we hear them and we are going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consequence of this."

    Obama’s admission represents the latest evolution on the issue dating back to before the Affordable Care Act was even signed into law in 2010. Up through September of this year, Obama was adamant that the Affordable Care Act would not impact Americans who already had their own health insurance.

    https://news.yahoo.com/president-obama-he%E2%80%99s-sorry-for-americans-losing-insurance-plans-233753421.html

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    President Obama said in an interview on Thursday that he’s sorry a number of Americans are being forced to change their health care plans despite previous assurances the Affordable Care Act would allow them to keep their existing plans.

    "I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me," Obama told Chuck Todd during an interview with NBC News at the White House.

    "We've got to work hard to make sure that they know we hear them and we are going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consequence of this."

    Obama’s admission represents the latest evolution on the issue dating back to before the Affordable Care Act was even signed into law in 2010. Up through September of this year, Obama was adamant that the Affordable Care Act would not impact Americans who already had their own health insurance.

    https://news.yahoo.com/president-obama-he%E2%80%99s-sorry-for-americans-losing-insurance-plans-233753421.html

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 2:37 AM ET #2


    If Insurance companies wish to withdraw from States they normally do business in, then they may do so.  Nobody can stop them.
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    If Insurance companies wish to withdraw from States they normally do business in, then they may do so.  Nobody can stop them.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 3:00 AM ET #3

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    Can a mod please move this to the proper forum?
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    TL/DR

    Can a mod please move this to the proper forum?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 7:06 PM ET #4

    I already knew he was sorry!!
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    I already knew he was sorry!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 7:25 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    If Insurance companies wish to withdraw from States they normally do business in, then they may do so.  Nobody can stop them.


    You sound like a Democrat that doesn't have to run in 2014.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    If Insurance companies wish to withdraw from States they normally do business in, then they may do so.  Nobody can stop them.


    You sound like a Democrat that doesn't have to run in 2014.
     
    canovsp
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 7:29 PM ET #6

    What happened to Freddie. He was one of the least confrontational people on here?
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    What happened to Freddie. He was one of the least confrontational people on here?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 8:06 PM ET #7

    Private insurance companies can and will now be naming their own price. That's a good thing gentlemen - believe it.

    Whole plan was stillborn, Obama is a stupid idiot moron clown. Worst president to ever live in govt housing.

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    Private insurance companies can and will now be naming their own price. That's a good thing gentlemen - believe it.

    Whole plan was stillborn, Obama is a stupid idiot moron clown. Worst president to ever live in govt housing.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 8:20 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:



    You sound like a Democrat that doesn't have to run in 2014.




    Insurance companies come and insurance companies go.

    You are upset that the free market is working???

    Shocker.



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    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:



    You sound like a Democrat that doesn't have to run in 2014.




    Insurance companies come and insurance companies go.

    You are upset that the free market is working???

    Shocker.



     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 8:25 PM ET #9

    Has anyone that had no insurance before ACA was initiated actually gotten insurance since?
    If so, how many?
    Contrast that with the number that have lost their previous plans-
    If we could get an honest tally- I would bet that fewer are insured since ACA began than were before.....
    It may be just a bump in the road according to its defenders- a pretty big bump to the guy who had his own before and now has none-
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    Has anyone that had no insurance before ACA was initiated actually gotten insurance since?
    If so, how many?
    Contrast that with the number that have lost their previous plans-
    If we could get an honest tally- I would bet that fewer are insured since ACA began than were before.....
    It may be just a bump in the road according to its defenders- a pretty big bump to the guy who had his own before and now has none-
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 8:27 PM ET #10

    Also- it's my understanding that those who had private individual coverage saw their premiums soar- can anyone confirm or refute this?
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    Also- it's my understanding that those who had private individual coverage saw their premiums soar- can anyone confirm or refute this?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 8:54 PM ET #11

    The people that lost their plans lost them because they were sh-tty plans.
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    The people that lost their plans lost them because they were sh-tty plans.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 8:58 PM ET #12

    Compared to what?
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    Compared to what?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 9:00 PM ET #13

    I can confirm. My premiums are going up around 320 percent and deductible will be just over double. And I had a plan I was more than happy with.
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    I can confirm. My premiums are going up around 320 percent and deductible will be just over double. And I had a plan I was more than happy with.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 9:01 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    The people that lost their plans lost them because they were sh-tty plans.


    That's right.

    Even though those individuals weren't aware they had sh*tty plans Big Brother has since made them aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    The people that lost their plans lost them because they were sh-tty plans.


    That's right.

    Even though those individuals weren't aware they had sh*tty plans Big Brother has since made them aware.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 9:09 PM ET #15

    Check out the "bronze" plan....
    Then we can discuss sh!tty plans.....
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    Check out the "bronze" plan....
    Then we can discuss sh!tty plans.....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 9:35 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by potter36:

    I can confirm. My premiums are going up around 320 percent and deductible will be just over double. And I had a plan I was more than happy with.


    I would have to pay the penalty and use the emergency room as my primary care provider...
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    Quote Originally Posted by potter36:

    I can confirm. My premiums are going up around 320 percent and deductible will be just over double. And I had a plan I was more than happy with.


    I would have to pay the penalty and use the emergency room as my primary care provider...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 9:39 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    Check out the "bronze" plan....
    Then we can discuss sh!tty plans.....

    I'm on the iron plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    Check out the "bronze" plan....
    Then we can discuss sh!tty plans.....

    I'm on the iron plan.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 10:24 PM ET #18

    what is he sorry about?  he just said last week that his "you can keep your plan and your doctor" statements did not apply after march 2010
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    what is he sorry about?  he just said last week that his "you can keep your plan and your doctor" statements did not apply after march 2010
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2013 - 5:57 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    Check out the "bronze" plan....
    Then we can discuss sh!tty plans.....


    When I say sh-tty plans, I mean 2 things:

    1)  Where there is no limit how much you have to pay in a  year (AKA Out Of Pocket Maximum).  You may have to pay 30% and a bill can easily be 500,000.   All of the ACA plans, the most you have to pay in a single year is 15K (plus your premiums.)

    2)  They consider many different services "Not Covered" that most plans would cover.  ACA makes all the plans cover a set of services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    Check out the "bronze" plan....
    Then we can discuss sh!tty plans.....


    When I say sh-tty plans, I mean 2 things:

    1)  Where there is no limit how much you have to pay in a  year (AKA Out Of Pocket Maximum).  You may have to pay 30% and a bill can easily be 500,000.   All of the ACA plans, the most you have to pay in a single year is 15K (plus your premiums.)

    2)  They consider many different services "Not Covered" that most plans would cover.  ACA makes all the plans cover a set of services.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2013 - 6:00 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Randisist:



    I would have to pay the penalty and use the emergency room as my primary care provider...


    No, you can pay the penalty and pay a General Practioner or Specialist $100+ for an office visit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randisist:



    I would have to pay the penalty and use the emergency room as my primary care provider...


    No, you can pay the penalty and pay a General Practioner or Specialist $100+ for an office visit
     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2013 - 9:17 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Joker25:

    I already knew he was sorry!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker25:

    I already knew he was sorry!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 3:38 PM ET #22

    Doesn't the "A" stand for "Affordable?"  So a person who can't afford health insurance is going to sign up for a plan that includes a $5,000 deductible?  OK.  
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    Doesn't the "A" stand for "Affordable?"  So a person who can't afford health insurance is going to sign up for a plan that includes a $5,000 deductible?  OK.  
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 4:06 PM ET #23

    What was once a great working nation has turned into a total screwfest.  It probably doesn't matter who the president is anymore.  I think what is going on in this country is not going to end well. 

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    What was once a great working nation has turned into a total screwfest.  It probably doesn't matter who the president is anymore.  I think what is going on in this country is not going to end well. 

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