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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:08 PM ET #1551

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    don't have any imaginary friends.

    at least you are consistant

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    don't have any imaginary friends.

    at least you are consistant

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:09 PM ET #1552

    https://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html

    looks like a bloodcrazed psychopath to me..

     

     

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    https://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html

    looks like a bloodcrazed psychopath to me..

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:17 PM ET #1553

    ok.. so you can't really back up your statement about all the other gods being fakes.. no surprise.

    anyway I think I made my point and I'm pretty sure you get it..

    your religion has defined  who/what 'god' is and if a god exists and is different from who you are currently worshipping, then we'll both be in danger now won't we.. so again.. better hope you guessed right.

     

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    ok.. so you can't really back up your statement about all the other gods being fakes.. no surprise.

    anyway I think I made my point and I'm pretty sure you get it..

    your religion has defined  who/what 'god' is and if a god exists and is different from who you are currently worshipping, then we'll both be in danger now won't we.. so again.. better hope you guessed right.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:32 PM ET #1554

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    uhhhhhh you're gambling too, moron...

    you are dismissing 3,000 other believed gods and the other just about infinite number of possibilities.. and putting it 'all in' on these schmucks... hope you guessed right.

    Even though i dont adhere to the "you may as well believe in God because if you are wrong you have nothing to lose etc", argument, if you are looking at it from a non biased view, one would be pretty stupid not to bet on an option where if it is wrong, there is no downside.

    Even if you bring up the point about you choose the wrong religion, apart from Christianity having several more valid reasons to believe in it than not, by choosing Christianity, you are REDUCING the chances that you are wrong.

    Simple logic

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    uhhhhhh you're gambling too, moron...

    you are dismissing 3,000 other believed gods and the other just about infinite number of possibilities.. and putting it 'all in' on these schmucks... hope you guessed right.

    Even though i dont adhere to the "you may as well believe in God because if you are wrong you have nothing to lose etc", argument, if you are looking at it from a non biased view, one would be pretty stupid not to bet on an option where if it is wrong, there is no downside.

    Even if you bring up the point about you choose the wrong religion, apart from Christianity having several more valid reasons to believe in it than not, by choosing Christianity, you are REDUCING the chances that you are wrong.

    Simple logic

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:34 PM ET #1555

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    oh and if those pieces of shit you worship did exist, I wouldn't worship them anyway.. (try reading the book and see what a fucking maniac you worship)  so no loss to me.

    Do you realise how stupid you sound?

    How old are you, 16?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    oh and if those pieces of shit you worship did exist, I wouldn't worship them anyway.. (try reading the book and see what a fucking maniac you worship)  so no loss to me.

    Do you realise how stupid you sound?

    How old are you, 16?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:37 PM ET #1556

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    just another empty fucking ASSertion, that you can't back up..

    oh mommy & daddy told you the others were fake?  

    well it must be true then...

     

    lmfao

    Judging by the nature of your responses, you dont sound very intelligent, you sound like you havent done any research whatsoever comparing the religions of the world, because if you did, your answers would be quite different.

    You just sound like many ill informed atheists who dont believe in God because you aren simply mad with the world.

    Just like many atheists, your arguments are charged with emotion.

    Grow up

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    just another empty fucking ASSertion, that you can't back up..

    oh mommy & daddy told you the others were fake?  

    well it must be true then...

     

    lmfao

    Judging by the nature of your responses, you dont sound very intelligent, you sound like you havent done any research whatsoever comparing the religions of the world, because if you did, your answers would be quite different.

    You just sound like many ill informed atheists who dont believe in God because you aren simply mad with the world.

    Just like many atheists, your arguments are charged with emotion.

    Grow up

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:42 PM ET #1557

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    https://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html

    looks like a bloodcrazed psychopath to me..

     

     

    LOL, the atheists number one problem, equivocating God to man.

    Why dont you do yourself a favour and quit visiting these atheistic websites designed by people who have empty lives.

    Why dont you learn about the society at the times of the old testament and learn about how God punishes sin and that he is under no obligation to preserve, extend anyones life....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    https://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html

    looks like a bloodcrazed psychopath to me..

     

     

    LOL, the atheists number one problem, equivocating God to man.

    Why dont you do yourself a favour and quit visiting these atheistic websites designed by people who have empty lives.

    Why dont you learn about the society at the times of the old testament and learn about how God punishes sin and that he is under no obligation to preserve, extend anyones life....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:43 PM ET #1558

    and how many supernatural beings has man made up over the years? a little over 3,000 isn't it?

    so you have a 1 in 3,000 chance of being right...

    oh and that doesn't take into account all the other possibilities that could exist..

    your chance of being right is about as close to fucking zero as you could get.

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    and how many supernatural beings has man made up over the years? a little over 3,000 isn't it?

    so you have a 1 in 3,000 chance of being right...

    oh and that doesn't take into account all the other possibilities that could exist..

    your chance of being right is about as close to fucking zero as you could get.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:43 PM ET #1559

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    ok.. so you can't really back up your statement about all the other gods being fakes.. no surprise.

    anyway I think I made my point and I'm pretty sure you get it..

    your religion has defined  who/what 'god' is and if a god exists and is different from who you are currently worshipping, then we'll both be in danger now won't we.. so again.. better hope you guessed right.

     

    And here is a perfect opportunity for you to tell us all why atheism is true and correct? The floor is yours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    ok.. so you can't really back up your statement about all the other gods being fakes.. no surprise.

    anyway I think I made my point and I'm pretty sure you get it..

    your religion has defined  who/what 'god' is and if a god exists and is different from who you are currently worshipping, then we'll both be in danger now won't we.. so again.. better hope you guessed right.

     

    And here is a perfect opportunity for you to tell us all why atheism is true and correct? The floor is yours...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:45 PM ET #1560

    you are the one that sounds stupid, going around preaching that your skyfairy is love, but then we get stories from your book of fairytales like the ones listed in the link above.. quite a difference huh dumbass?
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    you are the one that sounds stupid, going around preaching that your skyfairy is love, but then we get stories from your book of fairytales like the ones listed in the link above.. quite a difference huh dumbass?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:45 PM ET #1561

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    and how many supernatural beings has man made up over the years? a little over 3,000 isn't it?

    so you have a 1 in 3,000 chance of being right...

    oh and that doesn't take into account all the other possibilities that could exist..

    your chance of being right is about as close to fucking zero as you could get.

    Why dont you do some research first before stating which religions could be right or wrong etc.

    You sound like a typical losing gambler when they base there picks from some other poster on here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    and how many supernatural beings has man made up over the years? a little over 3,000 isn't it?

    so you have a 1 in 3,000 chance of being right...

    oh and that doesn't take into account all the other possibilities that could exist..

    your chance of being right is about as close to fucking zero as you could get.

    Why dont you do some research first before stating which religions could be right or wrong etc.

    You sound like a typical losing gambler when they base there picks from some other poster on here....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:45 PM ET #1562

    atheism isn't selling anything..

    it's just a rejection of your empty claims

    nothing more .

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    atheism isn't selling anything..

    it's just a rejection of your empty claims

    nothing more .

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:47 PM ET #1563

    yea when your god slowly tortures a baby to death... he has a really good reason for it.. don't try to understand his 'mysterious ways'

     

    sorry your god if he existed is a scumbag  .

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    yea when your god slowly tortures a baby to death... he has a really good reason for it.. don't try to understand his 'mysterious ways'

     

    sorry your god if he existed is a scumbag  .

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:47 PM ET #1564

    *exists
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    *exists
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:48 PM ET #1565

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    you are the one that sounds stupid, going around preaching that your skyfairy is love, but then we get stories from your book of fairytales like the ones listed in the link above.. quite a difference huh dumbass?

    is that right, ?

    I am not the one posting that things pop into existence from nothing in this natural world of ours.

    I am not the one stating that murder and raping little girls is not absolutely wrong.

    Do you want me to go on? or arent you even aware of the implications of what your stupid and ridicolous world views are?

    Again, do some research on the society at the time of the old testament before you spill your emotional diorreah which makes you look like a fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    you are the one that sounds stupid, going around preaching that your skyfairy is love, but then we get stories from your book of fairytales like the ones listed in the link above.. quite a difference huh dumbass?

    is that right, ?

    I am not the one posting that things pop into existence from nothing in this natural world of ours.

    I am not the one stating that murder and raping little girls is not absolutely wrong.

    Do you want me to go on? or arent you even aware of the implications of what your stupid and ridicolous world views are?

    Again, do some research on the society at the time of the old testament before you spill your emotional diorreah which makes you look like a fool.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:49 PM ET #1566

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    atheism isn't selling anything..

    it's just a rejection of your empty claims

    nothing more .

    So why is it true? Why is there no God?

    I am all eyes........

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    atheism isn't selling anything..

    it's just a rejection of your empty claims

    nothing more .

    So why is it true? Why is there no God?

    I am all eyes........

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:51 PM ET #1567

    oh I know about the society... why the fuck do you think your god comes off as an idiotic & barbaric psychopath?? because those are the types that made him up..

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    oh I know about the society... why the fuck do you think your god comes off as an idiotic & barbaric psychopath?? because those are the types that made him up..

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:53 PM ET #1568

    atheism isn't claiming anything...

    you are the one making the claim that your specific god(s) exist...

    now where is your evidence for this?

    we've all been waiting for thousands of years..

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    atheism isn't claiming anything...

    you are the one making the claim that your specific god(s) exist...

    now where is your evidence for this?

    we've all been waiting for thousands of years..

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:53 PM ET #1569

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    oh I know about the society... why the fuck do you think your god comes off as an idiotic & barbaric psychopath?? because those are the types that made him up..

    Oh is that right?

    Or did you go to yoru fav atheistic website and find out from there?

    Can you tell us about the Caanaties then? and what they did?

    Go on, go to your fav atheistic website....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    oh I know about the society... why the fuck do you think your god comes off as an idiotic & barbaric psychopath?? because those are the types that made him up..

    Oh is that right?

    Or did you go to yoru fav atheistic website and find out from there?

    Can you tell us about the Caanaties then? and what they did?

    Go on, go to your fav atheistic website....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:55 PM ET #1570

    you are claiming it was a magical being started it all, can't provide 1 iota of proof for it... then even more ridiculously you claim to know who/what this magical being is.. and again can't provide any fucking evidence for your claim.
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    you are claiming it was a magical being started it all, can't provide 1 iota of proof for it... then even more ridiculously you claim to know who/what this magical being is.. and again can't provide any fucking evidence for your claim.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 11:55 PM ET #1571

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    atheism isn't claiming anything...

    you are the one making the claim that your specific god(s) exist...

    now where is your evidence for this?

    we've all been waiting for thousands of years..

    Atheism is the claim that God does not exist...sounds like a claim to me.

    Furthermore it is a claim that requires faith...

    You are one confused individual...You dont even know the implications of your ridicolous belief system,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    atheism isn't claiming anything...

    you are the one making the claim that your specific god(s) exist...

    now where is your evidence for this?

    we've all been waiting for thousands of years..

    Atheism is the claim that God does not exist...sounds like a claim to me.

    Furthermore it is a claim that requires faith...

    You are one confused individual...You dont even know the implications of your ridicolous belief system,,,,

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    you are claiming it was a magical being started it all, can't provide 1 iota of proof for it... then even more ridiculously you claim to know who/what this magical being is.. and again can't provide any fucking evidence for your claim.

    The Universe began to exist, a claim agreed by physicists and cosmologists.

    All things that begin to exist have a cause.....

    This cause must be timeless, spaceless and immaterial as when the universe began to exist, so to did time, space and energy.

    The cause must be a transendant.

    This is where the atheist look like fools cause they are FORCED into believing the universe created itself out of nothing by nothing for nothing OR the universe is eternal which is not mathemtically possible and it also violates the second law of thermodynamics....

    What have you to say here? Oh , no, trapped for answers, run back to your favourite athestic website and look for re-inforcements.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBay:

    you are claiming it was a magical being started it all, can't provide 1 iota of proof for it... then even more ridiculously you claim to know who/what this magical being is.. and again can't provide any fucking evidence for your claim.

    The Universe began to exist, a claim agreed by physicists and cosmologists.

    All things that begin to exist have a cause.....

    This cause must be timeless, spaceless and immaterial as when the universe began to exist, so to did time, space and energy.

    The cause must be a transendant.

    This is where the atheist look like fools cause they are FORCED into believing the universe created itself out of nothing by nothing for nothing OR the universe is eternal which is not mathemtically possible and it also violates the second law of thermodynamics....

    What have you to say here? Oh , no, trapped for answers, run back to your favourite athestic website and look for re-inforcements.......

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2011 - 12:00 AM ET #1573

    'A' god could exist...  how could I possibly state anything for sure..?

    there isn't any evidence for these magical beings you speak of... nor is there any for the one(s) you worship..

    I've made no claim... you have... and have nothing to back it up.

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    'A' god could exist...  how could I possibly state anything for sure..?

    there isn't any evidence for these magical beings you speak of... nor is there any for the one(s) you worship..

    I've made no claim... you have... and have nothing to back it up.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2011 - 12:01 AM ET #1574

    funny how this 'logic' all goes out the window when your skyfairy gets involved..

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    funny how this 'logic' all goes out the window when your skyfairy gets involved..

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Even though i dont adhere to the "you may as well believe in God because if you are wrong you have nothing to lose etc", argument, if you are looking at it from a non biased view, one would be pretty stupid not to bet on an option where if it is wrong, there is no downside.

    Even if you bring up the point about you choose the wrong religion, apart from Christianity having several more valid reasons to believe in it than not, by choosing Christianity, you are REDUCING the chances that you are wrong.

    Simple logic

     

    It's called Pascal's wager, and has been well refuted as a nonsense propasition in any entry level college course in logic or philosophy. Just  because it is "new" to you, and seems to spark a light in your already biased brain doesn't mean you are right. Try and do a little research outside of the bible. Once again, using the bible to prove the truth of the bible is an elementary fail at the most basic foundations of argument, and logic.
    I'd rather be playing D&D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Even though i dont adhere to the "you may as well believe in God because if you are wrong you have nothing to lose etc", argument, if you are looking at it from a non biased view, one would be pretty stupid not to bet on an option where if it is wrong, there is no downside.

    Even if you bring up the point about you choose the wrong religion, apart from Christianity having several more valid reasons to believe in it than not, by choosing Christianity, you are REDUCING the chances that you are wrong.

    Simple logic

     

    It's called Pascal's wager, and has been well refuted as a nonsense propasition in any entry level college course in logic or philosophy. Just  because it is "new" to you, and seems to spark a light in your already biased brain doesn't mean you are right. Try and do a little research outside of the bible. Once again, using the bible to prove the truth of the bible is an elementary fail at the most basic foundations of argument, and logic.
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