Huh?...I don't quite follow what you mean kimosabe. Would you care to elaborate?...then maybe I can have a response to it...akay?
A priest comes to town first thing he wants is a building called a church so people can come to him and then they pass around a basket asking for donations and the "poor box" is actually taken by the priest that does the masses that morning. It is considered a tip and is standard practice in the church
Jesus had no building but had access to one being built, he went to people and when he passed around a basket he let people take what they needed
Big difference
heres is a video clip from national geographic called rivals of Jesus
Huh?...I don't quite follow what you mean kimosabe. Would you care to elaborate?...then maybe I can have a response to it...akay?
A priest comes to town first thing he wants is a building called a church so people can come to him and then they pass around a basket asking for donations and the "poor box" is actually taken by the priest that does the masses that morning. It is considered a tip and is standard practice in the church
Jesus had no building but had access to one being built, he went to people and when he passed around a basket he let people take what they needed
Big difference
heres is a video clip from national geographic called rivals of Jesus
Atheists thrive when priests get accused of church corruption....The reality is, this doesnt prove God doesnt exist which atheists tend to categorise....
Atheists thrive when priests get accused of church corruption....The reality is, this doesnt prove God doesnt exist which atheists tend to categorise....
Unfortunately, booyahz123, the church has messed up in the past. Not "the church" as a whole, but severalllllll individual congregations, as well as denominations... for instance, the Lutheran Denomination has passed this "law" I guess you could say; and it says that the Lutheran Denomination can now install pastors that are homosexuals. Being a Lutheran, and my dad as a pastor, we left the Lutheran church, and are now in the 2nd year of the current church we attend now, along with a few other people that share the same belief. Just because a church/denomination/"Christians"/etc. do something, does not make it right... The basis of what is right and wrong comes from the Bible... take a look at my thread (i know theres a tonnnn of information), and see if any of that clears stuff up... there are a lot of wrong things that "Christians" do, as well as non-Christians. But just because a Christian does or does not do something, does not make it right or wrong. If you read my thread, and have any questions/comments, please say it, because I would like to try and clear anything up
The reality is people in the church are ALSO human beings, subject to the same temptations of corruption , greed and evils as ANY other human being.
The TEACHINGS of the church are NOT consistent with the behaviour of some of their members....I dont know why atheists think when a church member does something bad, they get excited like it disproves God or something .
Jesus knew this would happen when he called these people "hypocrites"........While this is unfortunate and it doesnt excuse their behaviour, the reality is that they wre human beings like everyone else and not exempt from sin...
I dont know any church member that says because they are a believer that they are sin free...In fact, it shows the opposite, especially for Christianity where Chirstians use christianity for forgiveness of sins....
Quote Originally Posted by EX4life:
Unfortunately, booyahz123, the church has messed up in the past. Not "the church" as a whole, but severalllllll individual congregations, as well as denominations... for instance, the Lutheran Denomination has passed this "law" I guess you could say; and it says that the Lutheran Denomination can now install pastors that are homosexuals. Being a Lutheran, and my dad as a pastor, we left the Lutheran church, and are now in the 2nd year of the current church we attend now, along with a few other people that share the same belief. Just because a church/denomination/"Christians"/etc. do something, does not make it right... The basis of what is right and wrong comes from the Bible... take a look at my thread (i know theres a tonnnn of information), and see if any of that clears stuff up... there are a lot of wrong things that "Christians" do, as well as non-Christians. But just because a Christian does or does not do something, does not make it right or wrong. If you read my thread, and have any questions/comments, please say it, because I would like to try and clear anything up
The reality is people in the church are ALSO human beings, subject to the same temptations of corruption , greed and evils as ANY other human being.
The TEACHINGS of the church are NOT consistent with the behaviour of some of their members....I dont know why atheists think when a church member does something bad, they get excited like it disproves God or something .
Jesus knew this would happen when he called these people "hypocrites"........While this is unfortunate and it doesnt excuse their behaviour, the reality is that they wre human beings like everyone else and not exempt from sin...
I dont know any church member that says because they are a believer that they are sin free...In fact, it shows the opposite, especially for Christianity where Chirstians use christianity for forgiveness of sins....
A priest comes to town first thing he wants is a building called a church so people can come to him and then they pass around a basket asking for donations and the "poor box" is actually taken by the priest that does the masses that morning. It is considered a tip and is standard practice in the church
Jesus had no building but had access to one being built, he went to people and when he passed around a basket he let people take what they needed
Big difference
heres is a video clip from national geographic called rivals of Jesus
The donate every week at church, the money gets used for
1. Operational costs of the church, candles, electricity, wine, communion, statues, materials, church building mortgages, car fuel for the priests when they travel between churches, hospitals, sick peoples houses, food for the priests, etc etc.
2. Donations that go to homeless and starving people.
The church also provides AUDITED financial statements for the financial year and my church still has a net loss.
Do some research before accusing.
Quote Originally Posted by booyahz123:
A priest comes to town first thing he wants is a building called a church so people can come to him and then they pass around a basket asking for donations and the "poor box" is actually taken by the priest that does the masses that morning. It is considered a tip and is standard practice in the church
Jesus had no building but had access to one being built, he went to people and when he passed around a basket he let people take what they needed
Big difference
heres is a video clip from national geographic called rivals of Jesus
The donate every week at church, the money gets used for
1. Operational costs of the church, candles, electricity, wine, communion, statues, materials, church building mortgages, car fuel for the priests when they travel between churches, hospitals, sick peoples houses, food for the priests, etc etc.
2. Donations that go to homeless and starving people.
The church also provides AUDITED financial statements for the financial year and my church still has a net loss.
The reality is people in the church are ALSO human beings, subject to the same temptations of corruption , greed and evils as ANY other human being.
The TEACHINGS of the church are NOT consistent with the behaviour of some of their members....I dont know why atheists think when a church member does something bad, they get excited like it disproves God or something .
Jesus knew this would happen when he called these people "hypocrites"........While this is unfortunate and it doesnt excuse their behaviour, the reality is that they wre human beings like everyone else and not exempt from sin...
I dont know any church member that says because they are a believer that they are sin free...In fact, it shows the opposite, especially for Christianity where Chirstians use christianity for forgiveness of sins....
Very true
Just like when Jesus told the woman at the well to "Go and sin no more." He knew that she would sin again. She knew that she would sin again. But it's living a life and trying to mirror the life lived by Jesus that is the key. Because there is no way; absolutely no way anybody is sin free; but it's doing any and everything you can to try and be like Christ.
Thanks rostos
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
The reality is people in the church are ALSO human beings, subject to the same temptations of corruption , greed and evils as ANY other human being.
The TEACHINGS of the church are NOT consistent with the behaviour of some of their members....I dont know why atheists think when a church member does something bad, they get excited like it disproves God or something .
Jesus knew this would happen when he called these people "hypocrites"........While this is unfortunate and it doesnt excuse their behaviour, the reality is that they wre human beings like everyone else and not exempt from sin...
I dont know any church member that says because they are a believer that they are sin free...In fact, it shows the opposite, especially for Christianity where Chirstians use christianity for forgiveness of sins....
Very true
Just like when Jesus told the woman at the well to "Go and sin no more." He knew that she would sin again. She knew that she would sin again. But it's living a life and trying to mirror the life lived by Jesus that is the key. Because there is no way; absolutely no way anybody is sin free; but it's doing any and everything you can to try and be like Christ.
because one does not believe a hypocrite in a building asking for money that does not make them an atheist.
Is this an experience that you've encountered? Who is this hypocrite you are referring to and in what building was he in?
If you are not an atheist, then what are you? There are so many labels out there, what is yours? You already know mine, I am a disciple of Jesus Christ, a believer in the Holy Bible and the true religion of Christianity.
Quote Originally Posted by booyahz123:
because one does not believe a hypocrite in a building asking for money that does not make them an atheist.
Is this an experience that you've encountered? Who is this hypocrite you are referring to and in what building was he in?
If you are not an atheist, then what are you? There are so many labels out there, what is yours? You already know mine, I am a disciple of Jesus Christ, a believer in the Holy Bible and the true religion of Christianity.
The reality is people in the church are ALSO human beings, subject to the same temptations of corruption , greed and evils as ANY other human being.
The TEACHINGS of the church are NOT consistent with the behaviour of some of their members....I dont know why atheists think when a church member does something bad, they get excited like it disproves God or something .
Jesus knew this would happen when he called these people "hypocrites"........While this is unfortunate and it doesnt excuse their behaviour, the reality is that they wre human beings like everyone else and not exempt from sin...
I dont know any church member that says because they are a believer that they are sin free...In fact, it shows the opposite, especially for Christianity where Chirstians use christianity for forgiveness of sins....
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
The reality is people in the church are ALSO human beings, subject to the same temptations of corruption , greed and evils as ANY other human being.
The TEACHINGS of the church are NOT consistent with the behaviour of some of their members....I dont know why atheists think when a church member does something bad, they get excited like it disproves God or something .
Jesus knew this would happen when he called these people "hypocrites"........While this is unfortunate and it doesnt excuse their behaviour, the reality is that they wre human beings like everyone else and not exempt from sin...
I dont know any church member that says because they are a believer that they are sin free...In fact, it shows the opposite, especially for Christianity where Chirstians use christianity for forgiveness of sins....
I dont know where you come from, but from where i come from, a lie has a short shelf life, a lie doesnt normally live for 2000 years....., funny how all those "other supposed" messiah's didnt last long, a lie normally doesnt....
I dont know where you come from, but from where i come from, a lie has a short shelf life, a lie doesnt normally live for 2000 years....., funny how all those "other supposed" messiah's didnt last long, a lie normally doesnt....
Just like when Jesus told the woman at the well to "Go and sin no more." He knew that she would sin again. She knew that she would sin again. But it's living a life and trying to mirror the life lived by Jesus that is the key. Because there is no way; absolutely no way anybody is sin free; but it's doing any and everything you can to try and be like Christ.
Thanks rostos
if we want to be consistent in the logic of atheists, then as that Syracuse coach is accused of child molestation, lets be consistent with the atheists and say not only ALL coaches are molesters, but the Syracuse programme teaches child rape....
Quote Originally Posted by EX4life:
Very true
Just like when Jesus told the woman at the well to "Go and sin no more." He knew that she would sin again. She knew that she would sin again. But it's living a life and trying to mirror the life lived by Jesus that is the key. Because there is no way; absolutely no way anybody is sin free; but it's doing any and everything you can to try and be like Christ.
Thanks rostos
if we want to be consistent in the logic of atheists, then as that Syracuse coach is accused of child molestation, lets be consistent with the atheists and say not only ALL coaches are molesters, but the Syracuse programme teaches child rape....
They molest young boys world wide and still people go to church.
Yes, there have been some in the clergy who have molested young boys, and who have been punished for their crimes but what does that have to do with people continuing to go to church?
There also have been people who are not religious molesting young boys. There are indeed perverted, sinful people out there but it's like you're saying the church is promoting this type of perversion and so you don't understand why people continue to go to church.
How ignorant on your part to suggest or imply that. You don't make sense at all. Stop blaming the church for the evils that wicked people commit. The ones who are doing it are simply hypocrites.
Quote Originally Posted by booyahz123:
They molest young boys world wide and still people go to church.
Yes, there have been some in the clergy who have molested young boys, and who have been punished for their crimes but what does that have to do with people continuing to go to church?
There also have been people who are not religious molesting young boys. There are indeed perverted, sinful people out there but it's like you're saying the church is promoting this type of perversion and so you don't understand why people continue to go to church.
How ignorant on your part to suggest or imply that. You don't make sense at all. Stop blaming the church for the evils that wicked people commit. The ones who are doing it are simply hypocrites.
Yes, there have been some in the clergy who have molested young boys, and who have been punished for their crimes but what does that have to do with people continuing to go to church?
There also have been people who are not religious molesting young boys. There are indeed perverted, sinful people out there but it's like you're saying the church is promoting this type of perversion and so you don't understand why people continue to go to church.
How ignorant on your part to suggest or imply that. You don't make sense at all. Stop blaming the church for the evils that wicked people commit. The ones who are doing it are simply hypocrites.
A LA Dodgers fan killed a Giants fan earlier this year in the car park after a game. Are all Dodgers fans murderers? Does the Dodgers organisation teach fans to murder the opposition fans? is the Dodgers organisation evil? Should other dodgers fans stop going to Dodgers games? By the atheists logic, the answer is yes to all the above.
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
Yes, there have been some in the clergy who have molested young boys, and who have been punished for their crimes but what does that have to do with people continuing to go to church?
There also have been people who are not religious molesting young boys. There are indeed perverted, sinful people out there but it's like you're saying the church is promoting this type of perversion and so you don't understand why people continue to go to church.
How ignorant on your part to suggest or imply that. You don't make sense at all. Stop blaming the church for the evils that wicked people commit. The ones who are doing it are simply hypocrites.
A LA Dodgers fan killed a Giants fan earlier this year in the car park after a game. Are all Dodgers fans murderers? Does the Dodgers organisation teach fans to murder the opposition fans? is the Dodgers organisation evil? Should other dodgers fans stop going to Dodgers games? By the atheists logic, the answer is yes to all the above.
You can be an evil prick but if you go to a building you can get your slate wiped clean by asking for forgiveness.
Yes, that is true with the Christian religion, however it doesn't mean that you're allowed to continually live a sinful life.
You have to stop your sinful ways after admitting you're a sinner, asking for forgiveness and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior who died on the cross for your sins, paying your sin debt.
So this forgiveness is not a license for you to keep on sinning...understand that?
Quote Originally Posted by booyahz123:
You can be an evil prick but if you go to a building you can get your slate wiped clean by asking for forgiveness.
Yes, that is true with the Christian religion, however it doesn't mean that you're allowed to continually live a sinful life.
You have to stop your sinful ways after admitting you're a sinner, asking for forgiveness and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior who died on the cross for your sins, paying your sin debt.
So this forgiveness is not a license for you to keep on sinning...understand that?
His logic seems flawed. He talks about how something that can't come into existence out of nothing without a cause. Which is fine. Then he jumps into that god is the unmakeable creator of everything. Which contradicts his earlier statements. So it works for him in his logic and what he wants to say.
The fact remains that none of us know. My beliefs are different than yours but it makes neither one of us right or wrong. We do the best we can in our lives on this world and after that who knows what will happen.
His logic seems flawed. He talks about how something that can't come into existence out of nothing without a cause. Which is fine. Then he jumps into that god is the unmakeable creator of everything. Which contradicts his earlier statements. So it works for him in his logic and what he wants to say.
The fact remains that none of us know. My beliefs are different than yours but it makes neither one of us right or wrong. We do the best we can in our lives on this world and after that who knows what will happen.
His logic seems flawed. He talks about how something that can't come into existence out of nothing without a cause. Which is fine. Then he jumps into that god is the unmakeable creator of everything. Which contradicts his earlier statements. So it works for him in his logic and what he wants to say.
Disagree. Something cannot come from nothing without a cause IN THIS universe. We know the laws and physics of this universe, that is why we can make such a statement. By definition, Gods realm is in the supernatural world. What laws and physics do we know of the supernatural world? We dont. Therefore to ask what created God is illogical or will never be understood because he realm is in another world.
The fact remains that none of us know. My beliefs are different than yours but it makes neither one of us right or wrong. We do the best we can in our lives on this world and after that who knows what will happen.
I believe there are powerful signposts for Gods existence, but ultimately it comes down to faith. In my mind i know he exists, but that cant be proven.
Quote Originally Posted by Drizle:
His logic seems flawed. He talks about how something that can't come into existence out of nothing without a cause. Which is fine. Then he jumps into that god is the unmakeable creator of everything. Which contradicts his earlier statements. So it works for him in his logic and what he wants to say.
Disagree. Something cannot come from nothing without a cause IN THIS universe. We know the laws and physics of this universe, that is why we can make such a statement. By definition, Gods realm is in the supernatural world. What laws and physics do we know of the supernatural world? We dont. Therefore to ask what created God is illogical or will never be understood because he realm is in another world.
The fact remains that none of us know. My beliefs are different than yours but it makes neither one of us right or wrong. We do the best we can in our lives on this world and after that who knows what will happen.
I believe there are powerful signposts for Gods existence, but ultimately it comes down to faith. In my mind i know he exists, but that cant be proven.
It can't be proven Rostos. But then it never needs to be. Its a personal belief system. We all have our own. It does make for interesting discussion. And I wouldn't want to disparage another's beliefs cause they didn't jive with mine. Not my thing.
It can't be proven Rostos. But then it never needs to be. Its a personal belief system. We all have our own. It does make for interesting discussion. And I wouldn't want to disparage another's beliefs cause they didn't jive with mine. Not my thing.
A LA Dodgers fan killed a Giants fan earlier this year in the car park after a game. Are all Dodgers fans murderers? Does the Dodgers organisation teach fans to murder the opposition fans? is the Dodgers organisation evil? Should other dodgers fans stop going to Dodgers games? By the atheists logic, the answer is yes to all the above.
Just as a heads up.......the Giant fan is alive and now speaking.
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
A LA Dodgers fan killed a Giants fan earlier this year in the car park after a game. Are all Dodgers fans murderers? Does the Dodgers organisation teach fans to murder the opposition fans? is the Dodgers organisation evil? Should other dodgers fans stop going to Dodgers games? By the atheists logic, the answer is yes to all the above.
Just as a heads up.......the Giant fan is alive and now speaking.
The donate every week at church, the money gets used for
1. Operational costs of the church, candles, electricity, wine, communion, statues, materials, church building mortgages, car fuel for the priests when they travel between churches, hospitals, sick peoples houses, food for the priests, etc etc.
2. Donations that go to homeless and starving people.
The church also provides AUDITED financial statements for the financial year and my church still has a net loss.
Do some research before accusing.
I was an altar boy growing up and the all the priest would take the poor box money and put it in their own pocket. I don't need to research what I have lived.
They would have bazaar's and fund raisers to pay for other shit. and use the Catholic School tuition fees for the church. I went to Saint Catherine of Siena.
Priest would take a vow of celibacy and have girlfriends and pay for their apartments.
you don't need a middle man to help your neighbor
I'm no atheist but I am not a hypocrite. There is nothing a church does that people could not do without it.
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
The donate every week at church, the money gets used for
1. Operational costs of the church, candles, electricity, wine, communion, statues, materials, church building mortgages, car fuel for the priests when they travel between churches, hospitals, sick peoples houses, food for the priests, etc etc.
2. Donations that go to homeless and starving people.
The church also provides AUDITED financial statements for the financial year and my church still has a net loss.
Do some research before accusing.
I was an altar boy growing up and the all the priest would take the poor box money and put it in their own pocket. I don't need to research what I have lived.
They would have bazaar's and fund raisers to pay for other shit. and use the Catholic School tuition fees for the church. I went to Saint Catherine of Siena.
Priest would take a vow of celibacy and have girlfriends and pay for their apartments.
you don't need a middle man to help your neighbor
I'm no atheist but I am not a hypocrite. There is nothing a church does that people could not do without it.
organized religion. You dont need to be a member to be a good person.
Every religion on this list has done damage to the world. The Spanish Inquisition ...............confess or die......... that's some roots to be proud of, even Hitler believed in the power of Christian artifacts.
Crusades with 2 sides claiming they are killing in the name of a God.............
The Quran , now there's a real winner.........cut off the heads of infidels........does 9-11 even happen without organized religion.
There is always someone trying to shove their insanity and hypocrisy down everyone's throat. Who are you really trying to convince me or yourselves.
Yeah people never donate top shelf food its always crap
Give your leftovers to your neighbor at least you will have to look them in the face
The world keeps getting worse and all these people members of organized religion.........what a joke
organized religion. You dont need to be a member to be a good person.
Every religion on this list has done damage to the world. The Spanish Inquisition ...............confess or die......... that's some roots to be proud of, even Hitler believed in the power of Christian artifacts.
Crusades with 2 sides claiming they are killing in the name of a God.............
The Quran , now there's a real winner.........cut off the heads of infidels........does 9-11 even happen without organized religion.
There is always someone trying to shove their insanity and hypocrisy down everyone's throat. Who are you really trying to convince me or yourselves.
Yeah people never donate top shelf food its always crap
Give your leftovers to your neighbor at least you will have to look them in the face
The world keeps getting worse and all these people members of organized religion.........what a joke
The donate every week at church, the money gets used for
1. Operational costs of the church, candles, electricity, wine, communion, statues, materials, church building mortgages, car fuel for the priests when they travel between churches, hospitals, sick peoples houses, food for the priests, etc etc.
2. Donations that go to homeless and starving people.
The church also provides AUDITED financial statements for the financial year and my church still has a net loss.
Do some research before accusing.
no records of cash that goes in the basket or box. its like asking a waiter or waitress to claim all their tips on taxes, there is no way of knowing what was really given.........of course they show a loss its supposed to be non-profit..... rich kids get special treatment in Catholic school because they have parents that donate cars and cash.........I lived that as well.
but they will spend thousands on a fucking chalice
LMFAO
You don't need a church or religion to help your fellow man
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
The donate every week at church, the money gets used for
1. Operational costs of the church, candles, electricity, wine, communion, statues, materials, church building mortgages, car fuel for the priests when they travel between churches, hospitals, sick peoples houses, food for the priests, etc etc.
2. Donations that go to homeless and starving people.
The church also provides AUDITED financial statements for the financial year and my church still has a net loss.
Do some research before accusing.
no records of cash that goes in the basket or box. its like asking a waiter or waitress to claim all their tips on taxes, there is no way of knowing what was really given.........of course they show a loss its supposed to be non-profit..... rich kids get special treatment in Catholic school because they have parents that donate cars and cash.........I lived that as well.
but they will spend thousands on a fucking chalice
LMFAO
You don't need a church or religion to help your fellow man
Yes, that is true with the Christian religion, however it doesn't mean that you're allowed to continually live a sinful life.
You have to stop your sinful ways after admitting you're a sinner, asking for forgiveness and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior who died on the cross for your sins, paying your sin debt.
So this forgiveness is not a license for you to keep on sinning...understand that?
and why would any victim want to see that same prick for an eternity with the same rewards......... to be sorry and stop isnt enough and that surely is more of a hell for anyone who has been a victim , not a heaven I want to be a part of. 2 lives lived differently ending up in the same place this is the hypocrisy of religion.
If people really believed what they do in this life determines the eternity of a soul I would not of seen what I have throughout my life.
People put on a facade of who they really are. Some of the worse people I have encountered not only went to church and were "involved" they would actually get reserved seating in the front pews.
The further from a church people get the more they act like the real person they are while others hide behind their bible of choice to justify the wrong they have done.
Putting on suits for church ..........for who? so you look like you have shit. to create an image that isn't real???? to look a certain way so others don't judge.
The bible was not written at the time of Christ.............they are passed on stories.
You probably believe Christ was born on Dec 25th when the calender we use today was not invented until the 16th century
April fool's day was started because the Gregorian calender invented by a priest was not followed by Americans. So the churchies would call anyone who celebrated New Years on April 1st.....fools!!!!
Yep nothing like religion to have an excuse to persecute others and put oneself on a pedal stool
I'm done with this thread you people are just ignorant............not one of you says you can live a "christian" life without church........
really is that difficult to be a good person for you. You can't control your inner demons without a bible.
Capitalist pretending to be Christian who always have an excuse for being anything but Christ like and have no tolerance for those who are opposed to churches of all religions
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
Yes, that is true with the Christian religion, however it doesn't mean that you're allowed to continually live a sinful life.
You have to stop your sinful ways after admitting you're a sinner, asking for forgiveness and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior who died on the cross for your sins, paying your sin debt.
So this forgiveness is not a license for you to keep on sinning...understand that?
and why would any victim want to see that same prick for an eternity with the same rewards......... to be sorry and stop isnt enough and that surely is more of a hell for anyone who has been a victim , not a heaven I want to be a part of. 2 lives lived differently ending up in the same place this is the hypocrisy of religion.
If people really believed what they do in this life determines the eternity of a soul I would not of seen what I have throughout my life.
People put on a facade of who they really are. Some of the worse people I have encountered not only went to church and were "involved" they would actually get reserved seating in the front pews.
The further from a church people get the more they act like the real person they are while others hide behind their bible of choice to justify the wrong they have done.
Putting on suits for church ..........for who? so you look like you have shit. to create an image that isn't real???? to look a certain way so others don't judge.
The bible was not written at the time of Christ.............they are passed on stories.
You probably believe Christ was born on Dec 25th when the calender we use today was not invented until the 16th century
April fool's day was started because the Gregorian calender invented by a priest was not followed by Americans. So the churchies would call anyone who celebrated New Years on April 1st.....fools!!!!
Yep nothing like religion to have an excuse to persecute others and put oneself on a pedal stool
I'm done with this thread you people are just ignorant............not one of you says you can live a "christian" life without church........
really is that difficult to be a good person for you. You can't control your inner demons without a bible.
Capitalist pretending to be Christian who always have an excuse for being anything but Christ like and have no tolerance for those who are opposed to churches of all religions
This statement is contradictory. If "god" is all good, he would not allow evil to exist. If he is all powerful, that would mean he clearly has the power to abolish all evil...
THEREFORE god can NOT be both all good AND all powerful...
That is my only point of this post, so don't try to argue a different point, which I know you like to do Rostos...
Good day sir...
Evil exists
AND
"god" is all good and all powerful...
This statement is contradictory. If "god" is all good, he would not allow evil to exist. If he is all powerful, that would mean he clearly has the power to abolish all evil...
THEREFORE god can NOT be both all good AND all powerful...
That is my only point of this post, so don't try to argue a different point, which I know you like to do Rostos...
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