I tried to explain that to these Einsteins but of course they know everything and System rejected that idea because according to him all English words are spelled the same in English speaking countries. The stupidity that comes from the atheist on this thread is nothing short of astonishing. Seriously. They press you on answering a question and yet they have NEVER answered any of my questions or challenges. When they have been pressed they give one word answers that make no sense and then of course they start their usual bag of bullshit about circular fallacies and so forth.
Just showed him this...Wonder what he will say.....
I tried to explain that to these Einsteins but of course they know everything and System rejected that idea because according to him all English words are spelled the same in English speaking countries. The stupidity that comes from the atheist on this thread is nothing short of astonishing. Seriously. They press you on answering a question and yet they have NEVER answered any of my questions or challenges. When they have been pressed they give one word answers that make no sense and then of course they start their usual bag of bullshit about circular fallacies and so forth.
Just showed him this...Wonder what he will say.....
Perfect, just the rope i was hoping to extend for you to hang yourself....
so you dont believe, so we are just a random lucky collection of dust......WHICH IMPLES WE HAVE NO INSTRINSIC VALUE......If we have no instrinsic value, then why do you care what happens to other people? If we have no intrinsic value then why care about anything? But, no, i have seen many atheists post about Casey Anthony? Why? Who cares what she did?
In the world of atheism, she did nothing wrong........
Atheism = moral relativism...
this has been addresses numerous times, go back a read carefully...
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
Perfect, just the rope i was hoping to extend for you to hang yourself....
so you dont believe, so we are just a random lucky collection of dust......WHICH IMPLES WE HAVE NO INSTRINSIC VALUE......If we have no instrinsic value, then why do you care what happens to other people? If we have no intrinsic value then why care about anything? But, no, i have seen many atheists post about Casey Anthony? Why? Who cares what she did?
In the world of atheism, she did nothing wrong........
Atheism = moral relativism...
this has been addresses numerous times, go back a read carefully...
this has been addresses numerous times, go back a read carefully...
So you are all pinning me what my thoughts are on a subject, but in your world view, morals and ethics are all relative, meaning, it is not objectively true...
So why do you care what i think? Why? Why ask that question?
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
this has been addresses numerous times, go back a read carefully...
So you are all pinning me what my thoughts are on a subject, but in your world view, morals and ethics are all relative, meaning, it is not objectively true...
So why do you care what i think? Why? Why ask that question?
Perfect, just the rope i was hoping to extend for you to hang yourself....
so you dont believe, so we are just a random lucky collection of dust......WHICH IMPLES WE HAVE NO INSTRINSIC VALUE......If we have no instrinsic value, then why do you care what happens to other people? If we have no intrinsic value then why care about anything? But, no, i have seen many atheists post about Casey Anthony? Why? Who cares what she did?
In the world of atheism, she did nothing wrong........
Atheism = moral relativism...
Actually Atheism= Cowardliness on a high level
You see these people have no real answers so they continually ask questions to keep themselves perpetually busy seeking and never advancing. This is the supreme work of the ego and the atheist are the ego's consummate example of how far it will go to keep you from learning the truth about it. The atheist are caught up in this web of lies and bullshit. They can't see their way out of it because to do so would invalidate their entire existence. That's where the zero sum game comes into play. Because the ego will never want you to find out that the whole game is nothing but an illusion so to keep the game going he has to create the scenario of the never ending quests.
Remember the old movie "War Games" Remember what happened to the computer? The computer went crazy when it found out that no matter how many different versions of the War Games it played. There was never a winner. In the end the computer rationalized that the only way to win was to not play the game. This is what atheism is all about. These people are caught up in a game that they will never win. The cowards and weak minded keep playing because they will never have to face the reality of their own futility. The strong ones become enlightened and realize the error of their ways and move beyond this lie. That's why they keep giving us different answers to the same situations. In order for the game to continue they must not find any truth to any situation. It's all about how can I keep the game going. So no matter what you say short of a complete capitulation to their ideology it will never end. Our only hope is to appeal to the strong ones to recognize they are on the bridge to nowhere. Most of these atheist are lost souls that will never be turned around.
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
Perfect, just the rope i was hoping to extend for you to hang yourself....
so you dont believe, so we are just a random lucky collection of dust......WHICH IMPLES WE HAVE NO INSTRINSIC VALUE......If we have no instrinsic value, then why do you care what happens to other people? If we have no intrinsic value then why care about anything? But, no, i have seen many atheists post about Casey Anthony? Why? Who cares what she did?
In the world of atheism, she did nothing wrong........
Atheism = moral relativism...
Actually Atheism= Cowardliness on a high level
You see these people have no real answers so they continually ask questions to keep themselves perpetually busy seeking and never advancing. This is the supreme work of the ego and the atheist are the ego's consummate example of how far it will go to keep you from learning the truth about it. The atheist are caught up in this web of lies and bullshit. They can't see their way out of it because to do so would invalidate their entire existence. That's where the zero sum game comes into play. Because the ego will never want you to find out that the whole game is nothing but an illusion so to keep the game going he has to create the scenario of the never ending quests.
Remember the old movie "War Games" Remember what happened to the computer? The computer went crazy when it found out that no matter how many different versions of the War Games it played. There was never a winner. In the end the computer rationalized that the only way to win was to not play the game. This is what atheism is all about. These people are caught up in a game that they will never win. The cowards and weak minded keep playing because they will never have to face the reality of their own futility. The strong ones become enlightened and realize the error of their ways and move beyond this lie. That's why they keep giving us different answers to the same situations. In order for the game to continue they must not find any truth to any situation. It's all about how can I keep the game going. So no matter what you say short of a complete capitulation to their ideology it will never end. Our only hope is to appeal to the strong ones to recognize they are on the bridge to nowhere. Most of these atheist are lost souls that will never be turned around.
skimmed through it, and didn't see -en -an anywhere and no mention of the word heaven
Oh, i forgot this is covers......Let me use a spell check the next time i type on here, the standards here are like Harvard university, i forgot...........
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
skimmed through it, and didn't see -en -an anywhere and no mention of the word heaven
Oh, i forgot this is covers......Let me use a spell check the next time i type on here, the standards here are like Harvard university, i forgot...........
You see these people have no real answers so they continually ask questions to keep themselves perpetually busy seeking and never advancing. This is the supreme work of the ego and the atheist are the ego's consummate example of how far it will go to keep you from learning the truth about it. The atheist are caught up in this web of lies and bullshit. They can't see their way out of it because to do so would invalidate their entire existence. That's where the zero sum game comes into play. Because the ego will never want you to find out that the whole game is nothing but an illusion so to keep the game going he has to create the scenario of the never ending quests.
Remember the old movie "War Games" Remember what happened to the computer? The computer went crazy when it found out that no matter how many different versions of the War Games it played. There was never a winner. In the end the computer rationalized that the only way to win was to not play the game. This is what atheism is all about. These people are caught up in a game that they will never win. The cowards and weak minded keep playing because they will never have to face the reality of their own futility. The strong ones become enlightened and realize the error of their ways and move beyond this lie. That's why they keep giving us different answers to the same situations. In order for the game to continue they must not find any truth to any situation. It's all about how can I keep the game going. So no matter what you say short of a complete capitulation to their ideology it will never end. Our only hope is to appeal to the strong ones to recognize they are on the bridge to nowhere. Most of these atheist are lost souls that will never be turned around.
I tell you the biggest irony......
Many here claim God doesnt exist.....
Then they go to another thread and make a view about something, like Casey Anthony or another parent murdering her baby or something to that matter and they actually think there comment is objectively true........
That to me is a clear indicator, that deep down, they know objective morals exist, but on this thread, they deny it, but when they go into practice, there world view just doesnt work...
Smoothd...
If i went to the Casey Anthony thread and i said, "suck shit to what happened to that little girl, she deserves it, sucked in, i am glad what the mother did, i hope she makes alot of cash out of it........
What do you think Hutch, system, crerecord and system will reply back to me......
Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:
Actually Atheism= Cowardliness on a high level
You see these people have no real answers so they continually ask questions to keep themselves perpetually busy seeking and never advancing. This is the supreme work of the ego and the atheist are the ego's consummate example of how far it will go to keep you from learning the truth about it. The atheist are caught up in this web of lies and bullshit. They can't see their way out of it because to do so would invalidate their entire existence. That's where the zero sum game comes into play. Because the ego will never want you to find out that the whole game is nothing but an illusion so to keep the game going he has to create the scenario of the never ending quests.
Remember the old movie "War Games" Remember what happened to the computer? The computer went crazy when it found out that no matter how many different versions of the War Games it played. There was never a winner. In the end the computer rationalized that the only way to win was to not play the game. This is what atheism is all about. These people are caught up in a game that they will never win. The cowards and weak minded keep playing because they will never have to face the reality of their own futility. The strong ones become enlightened and realize the error of their ways and move beyond this lie. That's why they keep giving us different answers to the same situations. In order for the game to continue they must not find any truth to any situation. It's all about how can I keep the game going. So no matter what you say short of a complete capitulation to their ideology it will never end. Our only hope is to appeal to the strong ones to recognize they are on the bridge to nowhere. Most of these atheist are lost souls that will never be turned around.
I tell you the biggest irony......
Many here claim God doesnt exist.....
Then they go to another thread and make a view about something, like Casey Anthony or another parent murdering her baby or something to that matter and they actually think there comment is objectively true........
That to me is a clear indicator, that deep down, they know objective morals exist, but on this thread, they deny it, but when they go into practice, there world view just doesnt work...
Smoothd...
If i went to the Casey Anthony thread and i said, "suck shit to what happened to that little girl, she deserves it, sucked in, i am glad what the mother did, i hope she makes alot of cash out of it........
What do you think Hutch, system, crerecord and system will reply back to me......
Oh, i forgot this is covers......Let me use a spell check the next time i type on here, the standards here are like Harvard university, i forgot...........
oh, now it's spell check, I thought it was how people spelled it in Australia
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
Oh, i forgot this is covers......Let me use a spell check the next time i type on here, the standards here are like Harvard university, i forgot...........
oh, now it's spell check, I thought it was how people spelled it in Australia
Then they go to another thread and make a view about something, like Casey Anthony or another parent murdering her baby or something to that matter and they actually think there comment is objectively true........
That to me is a clear indicator, that deep down, they know objective morals exist, but on this thread, they deny it, but when they go into practice, there world view just doesnt work...
Smoothd...
If i went to the Casey Anthony thread and i said, "suck shit to what happened to that little girl, she deserves it, sucked in, i am glad what the mother did, i hope she makes alot of cash out of it........
What do you think Hutch, system, crerecord and system will reply back to me......
Of course they would jump all over you. That's because their whole existence is based on feeding the lie. If they stop then that by itself admits that it's all been in vain. It's like spending your whole life trying to solve a riddle. Once you solve it your life has no purpose. So the riddle never gets solved. They don't realize that you don't need to solve the riddle because the riddle is just a lie to waste your time. Only the brave ones understand this and stop playing the game. This is why they never answer questions or take up any challenges. They're afraid of the outcomes. The thought that the whole house of cards could come tumbling down is frightening to these people. Quite sad actually. They are stuck in a game they don't know how to quit.
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
I tell you the biggest irony......
Many here claim God doesnt exist.....
Then they go to another thread and make a view about something, like Casey Anthony or another parent murdering her baby or something to that matter and they actually think there comment is objectively true........
That to me is a clear indicator, that deep down, they know objective morals exist, but on this thread, they deny it, but when they go into practice, there world view just doesnt work...
Smoothd...
If i went to the Casey Anthony thread and i said, "suck shit to what happened to that little girl, she deserves it, sucked in, i am glad what the mother did, i hope she makes alot of cash out of it........
What do you think Hutch, system, crerecord and system will reply back to me......
Of course they would jump all over you. That's because their whole existence is based on feeding the lie. If they stop then that by itself admits that it's all been in vain. It's like spending your whole life trying to solve a riddle. Once you solve it your life has no purpose. So the riddle never gets solved. They don't realize that you don't need to solve the riddle because the riddle is just a lie to waste your time. Only the brave ones understand this and stop playing the game. This is why they never answer questions or take up any challenges. They're afraid of the outcomes. The thought that the whole house of cards could come tumbling down is frightening to these people. Quite sad actually. They are stuck in a game they don't know how to quit.
Then they go to another thread and make a view about something, like Casey Anthony or another parent murdering her baby or something to that matter and they actually think there comment is objectively true.......
____________
It' is "their" by the way. And "heaven" as well.
That to me is a clear indicator, that deep down, they know objective morals exist, but on this thread, they deny it, but when they go into practice, there world view just doesnt work...
_________
Once again, you're arguing the point for the other "side." Objective morals do exist. I think we're saying we don't need God in order to understand them.
Objectively: Killing someone is wrong. We agree on that.
According to you: Killing someone is wrong. But if they believe in God and ask for forgiveness, they go to heaven and have everlasting life.
How can something be wrong yet be rewarded with such a gift if you believe in God?
Then they go to another thread and make a view about something, like Casey Anthony or another parent murdering her baby or something to that matter and they actually think there comment is objectively true.......
____________
It' is "their" by the way. And "heaven" as well.
That to me is a clear indicator, that deep down, they know objective morals exist, but on this thread, they deny it, but when they go into practice, there world view just doesnt work...
_________
Once again, you're arguing the point for the other "side." Objective morals do exist. I think we're saying we don't need God in order to understand them.
Objectively: Killing someone is wrong. We agree on that.
According to you: Killing someone is wrong. But if they believe in God and ask for forgiveness, they go to heaven and have everlasting life.
How can something be wrong yet be rewarded with such a gift if you believe in God?
Then they go to another thread and make a view about something, like Casey Anthony or another parent murdering her baby or something to that matter and they actually think there comment is objectively true.......
____________
It' is "their" by the way. And "heaven" as well.
That to me is a clear indicator, that deep down, they know objective morals exist, but on this thread, they deny it, but when they go into practice, there world view just doesnt work...
_________
Once again, you're arguing the point for the other "side." Objective morals do exist. I think we're saying we don't need God in order to understand them.
You dont even know the implications of your world view..
If objective morals exist, who grounds them, who is the objective law giver?
Objectively: Killing someone is wrong. We agree on that.
Wrong, in your world view which you dont even know the implications of, morals are subjective,....Who says that murder is objectively wrong?
According to you: Killing someone is wrong. But if they believe in God and ask for forgiveness, they go to heaven and have everlasting life.
Where does the bible PROMISE someone is going to heaven?
Where?
How can something be wrong yet be rewarded with such a gift if you believe in God?
Where does this reward come from? There is ONLY one judge and one judge only, not me, not you...So where does this promse come from?
You bag out Christianity and you dont even know its central doctrine?
Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
Then they go to another thread and make a view about something, like Casey Anthony or another parent murdering her baby or something to that matter and they actually think there comment is objectively true.......
____________
It' is "their" by the way. And "heaven" as well.
That to me is a clear indicator, that deep down, they know objective morals exist, but on this thread, they deny it, but when they go into practice, there world view just doesnt work...
_________
Once again, you're arguing the point for the other "side." Objective morals do exist. I think we're saying we don't need God in order to understand them.
You dont even know the implications of your world view..
If objective morals exist, who grounds them, who is the objective law giver?
Objectively: Killing someone is wrong. We agree on that.
Wrong, in your world view which you dont even know the implications of, morals are subjective,....Who says that murder is objectively wrong?
According to you: Killing someone is wrong. But if they believe in God and ask for forgiveness, they go to heaven and have everlasting life.
Where does the bible PROMISE someone is going to heaven?
Where?
How can something be wrong yet be rewarded with such a gift if you believe in God?
Where does this reward come from? There is ONLY one judge and one judge only, not me, not you...So where does this promse come from?
You bag out Christianity and you dont even know its central doctrine?
Dr. Collins is aware of his misogynistic, racist, sexist bibical god
I'm sure Dr. Collins and all fellow Christians would agree with me that you are guilty of blasphemous babble...a misconception!
The God we worship and love, we know loves everyone, no matter who you are. He loves everyone so much that He sent His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior to pay for the sins of mankind, so that anyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life ---John 3:16
He is a holy and just God! The Creator of the universe and everything else that exists.
That is an absolute truth.
Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:
Dr. Collins is aware of his misogynistic, racist, sexist bibical god
I'm sure Dr. Collins and all fellow Christians would agree with me that you are guilty of blasphemous babble...a misconception!
The God we worship and love, we know loves everyone, no matter who you are. He loves everyone so much that He sent His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior to pay for the sins of mankind, so that anyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life ---John 3:16
He is a holy and just God! The Creator of the universe and everything else that exists.
I'm sure Dr. Collins and all fellow Christians would agree with me that you are guilty of blasphemous babble...a misconception!
The God we worship and love, we know loves everyone, no matter who you are. He loves everyone so much that He sent His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior to pay for the sins of mankind, so that anyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life ---John 3:16
He is a holy and just God! The Creator of the universe and everything else that exists.
That is an absolute truth.
i suppose next you will threaten me and tell me your loving misogynistic, sexist, racist god.......will send me to a lake of fire and have me burn, scream, yell and suffer for ever and ever... even tho he loves me?
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
I'm sure Dr. Collins and all fellow Christians would agree with me that you are guilty of blasphemous babble...a misconception!
The God we worship and love, we know loves everyone, no matter who you are. He loves everyone so much that He sent His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior to pay for the sins of mankind, so that anyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life ---John 3:16
He is a holy and just God! The Creator of the universe and everything else that exists.
That is an absolute truth.
i suppose next you will threaten me and tell me your loving misogynistic, sexist, racist god.......will send me to a lake of fire and have me burn, scream, yell and suffer for ever and ever... even tho he loves me?
I'm sure Dr. Collins and all fellow Christians would agree with me that you are guilty of blasphemous babble...a misconception!
The God we worship and love, we know loves everyone, no matter who you are. He loves everyone so much that He sent His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior to pay for the sins of mankind, so that anyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life ---John 3:16
He is a holy and just God! The Creator of the universe and everything else that exists.
That is an absolute truth.
True words spoken.
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
I'm sure Dr. Collins and all fellow Christians would agree with me that you are guilty of blasphemous babble...a misconception!
The God we worship and love, we know loves everyone, no matter who you are. He loves everyone so much that He sent His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior to pay for the sins of mankind, so that anyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life ---John 3:16
He is a holy and just God! The Creator of the universe and everything else that exists.
try to keep up. I see you're spelling heaven correctly now.
even tho he loves me?
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