No amount of argument or evidence conjured or amassed by the human mind can convince a skeptic that God has spoken, until God has been permitted to speak to him.
Walter Martin, Essential Christianity Santa Ana, CA Vision House 1975
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I just found this quote on the internet as I am conducting my studies. This is for my Christian friends as we have attempted to provide light to those that are blind. Although I hold faith that we have perhaps changed a few hearts. The fact remains that most of these atheists are beyond help and continue to hold on their fear thoughts guided by ego of the non existence of our Heavenly Father. All we can do is pray that someday they see the light.
No amount of argument or evidence conjured or amassed by the human mind can convince a skeptic that God has spoken, until God has been permitted to speak to him.
Walter Martin, Essential Christianity Santa Ana, CA Vision House 1975
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I just found this quote on the internet as I am conducting my studies. This is for my Christian friends as we have attempted to provide light to those that are blind. Although I hold faith that we have perhaps changed a few hearts. The fact remains that most of these atheists are beyond help and continue to hold on their fear thoughts guided by ego of the non existence of our Heavenly Father. All we can do is pray that someday they see the light.
No amount of argument or evidence conjured or amassed by the human mind can convince a skeptic that God has spoken, until God has been permitted to speak to him.
Walter Martin, Essential Christianity Santa Ana, CA Vision House 1975
_____________________________________________
I just found this quote on the internet as I am conducting my studies. This is for my Christian friends as we have attempted to provide light to those that are blind. Although I hold faith that we have perhaps changed a few hearts. The fact remains that most of these atheists are beyond help and continue to hold on their fear thoughts guided by ego of the non existence of our Heavenly Father. All we can do is pray that someday they see the light.
I do not think it is necessary to believe that the same God who has given us our senses, reason, and intelligence wished us to abandon their use, giving us by some other means the information that we could gain through them
Galileo Galilei
Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:
No amount of argument or evidence conjured or amassed by the human mind can convince a skeptic that God has spoken, until God has been permitted to speak to him.
Walter Martin, Essential Christianity Santa Ana, CA Vision House 1975
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I just found this quote on the internet as I am conducting my studies. This is for my Christian friends as we have attempted to provide light to those that are blind. Although I hold faith that we have perhaps changed a few hearts. The fact remains that most of these atheists are beyond help and continue to hold on their fear thoughts guided by ego of the non existence of our Heavenly Father. All we can do is pray that someday they see the light.
I do not think it is necessary to believe that the same God who has given us our senses, reason, and intelligence wished us to abandon their use, giving us by some other means the information that we could gain through them
it's funny how he keeps saying heavan. It's not even a typo, because he keeps saying it even when corrected, so he must believe it's spelled that way. it's interesting, education level and belief in god seem to go hand in hand....just look at smoothd's posts (know and no, do not mean the same thing, for example)
So now you are attacking my education level....What have you got? I suppose thats an angle you need to take when you have no answers for arguments put forward.
I finished in the top 15% of my state in my higher school education.
I also hold a bachelor degree majoring in accounting and finance from macquarie university.
I also hold a post graguate degree in Finance as well?
What do you hold? A masters in bullshit?
Education level and belief in God go hand in hand huh? I will mention him again, Is Dr Francis Collins owner of the Genome project a drop out?
And if you dont know, English spelling is different in Australia compared to other English speaking countries....
Uhm, Americans spell Organization, we spell it Organisation.....
Did you even finish school?
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
it's funny how he keeps saying heavan. It's not even a typo, because he keeps saying it even when corrected, so he must believe it's spelled that way. it's interesting, education level and belief in god seem to go hand in hand....just look at smoothd's posts (know and no, do not mean the same thing, for example)
So now you are attacking my education level....What have you got? I suppose thats an angle you need to take when you have no answers for arguments put forward.
I finished in the top 15% of my state in my higher school education.
I also hold a bachelor degree majoring in accounting and finance from macquarie university.
I also hold a post graguate degree in Finance as well?
What do you hold? A masters in bullshit?
Education level and belief in God go hand in hand huh? I will mention him again, Is Dr Francis Collins owner of the Genome project a drop out?
And if you dont know, English spelling is different in Australia compared to other English speaking countries....
Uhm, Americans spell Organization, we spell it Organisation.....
Keep dodging the question rostos. You're unbelievable.
ARE YOU HAPPY FOR THE SOUL OF THE ABORTED BABY OR NOT?!?
ANSWER THE QUESTION PLEASE...
I aint dodging nothing...It doesnt matter what i think, my thoughts or feeling or emotions which atheists mainly try and attack have no impact on nothing...
THE ENDS DO NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS..........
Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:
Keep dodging the question rostos. You're unbelievable.
ARE YOU HAPPY FOR THE SOUL OF THE ABORTED BABY OR NOT?!?
ANSWER THE QUESTION PLEASE...
I aint dodging nothing...It doesnt matter what i think, my thoughts or feeling or emotions which atheists mainly try and attack have no impact on nothing...
I aint dodging nothing...It doesnt matter what i think, my thoughts or feeling or emotions which atheists mainly try and attack have no impact on nothing...
THE ENDS DO NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS..........
You cant answer the question. You just cant. Because you know the answer makes your belief contradictory.
Oh well.
Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
I aint dodging nothing...It doesnt matter what i think, my thoughts or feeling or emotions which atheists mainly try and attack have no impact on nothing...
THE ENDS DO NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS..........
You cant answer the question. You just cant. Because you know the answer makes your belief contradictory.
Why don't you just post something that is an original coming from yourself? I can honestly tell you that I just don't click on any links of yours or your buddy van. That is the truth and nothing but the truth because if I lie that is a sin.
So as far as I am concerned you are wasting your time on this thread with this believer of Almighty God!
Why don't you just post something that is an original coming from yourself? I can honestly tell you that I just don't click on any links of yours or your buddy van. That is the truth and nothing but the truth because if I lie that is a sin.
So as far as I am concerned you are wasting your time on this thread with this believer of Almighty God!
So now you are attacking my education level....What have you got? I suppose thats an angle you need to take when you have no answers for arguments put forward.
I finished in the top 15% of my state in my higher school education.
I also hold a bachelor degree majoring in accounting and finance from macquarie university.
I also hold a post graguate degree in Finance as well?
What do you hold? A masters in bullshit?
Education level and belief in God go hand in hand huh? I will mention him again, Is Dr Francis Collins owner of the Genome project a drop out?
And if you dont know, English spelling is different in Australia compared to other English speaking countries....
Uhm, Americans spell Organization, we spell it Organisation.....
Did you even finish school?
So which words are spelled differently in Australia compared to Canada?
Is 'heaven' spelled differently in Australian English compared to all other Commonwealth Nations? Or are you totally confused and just talking out of your ass?
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
So now you are attacking my education level....What have you got? I suppose thats an angle you need to take when you have no answers for arguments put forward.
I finished in the top 15% of my state in my higher school education.
I also hold a bachelor degree majoring in accounting and finance from macquarie university.
I also hold a post graguate degree in Finance as well?
What do you hold? A masters in bullshit?
Education level and belief in God go hand in hand huh? I will mention him again, Is Dr Francis Collins owner of the Genome project a drop out?
And if you dont know, English spelling is different in Australia compared to other English speaking countries....
Uhm, Americans spell Organization, we spell it Organisation.....
Did you even finish school?
So which words are spelled differently in Australia compared to Canada?
Is 'heaven' spelled differently in Australian English compared to all other Commonwealth Nations? Or are you totally confused and just talking out of your ass?
Your only retort is the typical atheist bullshit of more "proof and evidence"
Yea those pesky things....
Your ignorance and lack of reason is a good indication of why the world is no longer run according to such stupidity and blind faith.
Otherwise the judicial system would still be convicting women of witchcraft and burning them at the steak. Instead, we need require "bullshit" like 'proof and evidence.'
Not surprisingly, this concept continues to escape you and your simpleminded friends.
Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:
Your only retort is the typical atheist bullshit of more "proof and evidence"
Yea those pesky things....
Your ignorance and lack of reason is a good indication of why the world is no longer run according to such stupidity and blind faith.
Otherwise the judicial system would still be convicting women of witchcraft and burning them at the steak. Instead, we need require "bullshit" like 'proof and evidence.'
Not surprisingly, this concept continues to escape you and your simpleminded friends.
You cant answer the question. You just cant. Because you know the answer makes your belief contradictory.
Oh well.
Exactly.
In addition, if you are a true believer in God and are unwavering in your faith, then why not just take your own life? It's a sin, but God forgives those who sin if they truly believe. Wouldn't logic (there is that word again) dictate that you take your own life to expedite the process of getting to heaven?
Down here on earth you have to deal with fear, stress, illness, pain, sadness, etc. Why not just bypass all that bad stuff and go straight to the forever lasting life?
I'd love someone to explain. And Rostos, stop saying that under no circumstances should someone allow to take a life (even their own) because if they are a true believer, God will forgive that sin (as you have said OVER and OVER and OVER).
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
You cant answer the question. You just cant. Because you know the answer makes your belief contradictory.
Oh well.
Exactly.
In addition, if you are a true believer in God and are unwavering in your faith, then why not just take your own life? It's a sin, but God forgives those who sin if they truly believe. Wouldn't logic (there is that word again) dictate that you take your own life to expedite the process of getting to heaven?
Down here on earth you have to deal with fear, stress, illness, pain, sadness, etc. Why not just bypass all that bad stuff and go straight to the forever lasting life?
I'd love someone to explain. And Rostos, stop saying that under no circumstances should someone allow to take a life (even their own) because if they are a true believer, God will forgive that sin (as you have said OVER and OVER and OVER).
In addition, if you are a true believer in God and are unwavering in your faith, then why not just take your own life? It's a sin, but God forgives those who sin if they truly believe. Wouldn't logic (there is that word again) dictate that you take your own life to expedite the process of getting to heaven?
Down here on earth you have to deal with fear, stress, illness, pain, sadness, etc. Why not just bypass all that bad stuff and go straight to the forever lasting life?
I'd love someone to explain. And Rostos, stop saying that under no circumstances should someone allow to take a life (even their own) because if they are a true believer, God will forgive that sin (as you have said OVER and OVER and OVER).
Or why not take a passive stance on others who die who are going to heavan?? Like abortion, starvation in Africa, missionaries who are murdered etc - just dont do anything to help those poor starving kids in Africa because a milisecond of suffering on earth equals eternity of paradise.
Why are these Christians so cruel to these children by stopping their death? Christians should celebrate every time a child starves, every time there is an abortion - they should all take a passive approach to this and do nothing - because by helping those kids in Africa - you are really prolonging their suffering.
Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
Exactly.
In addition, if you are a true believer in God and are unwavering in your faith, then why not just take your own life? It's a sin, but God forgives those who sin if they truly believe. Wouldn't logic (there is that word again) dictate that you take your own life to expedite the process of getting to heaven?
Down here on earth you have to deal with fear, stress, illness, pain, sadness, etc. Why not just bypass all that bad stuff and go straight to the forever lasting life?
I'd love someone to explain. And Rostos, stop saying that under no circumstances should someone allow to take a life (even their own) because if they are a true believer, God will forgive that sin (as you have said OVER and OVER and OVER).
Or why not take a passive stance on others who die who are going to heavan?? Like abortion, starvation in Africa, missionaries who are murdered etc - just dont do anything to help those poor starving kids in Africa because a milisecond of suffering on earth equals eternity of paradise.
Why are these Christians so cruel to these children by stopping their death? Christians should celebrate every time a child starves, every time there is an abortion - they should all take a passive approach to this and do nothing - because by helping those kids in Africa - you are really prolonging their suffering.
So my prayer is that the atheists who read this thread will someday get tired of the lie that is atheism and find God in their own way and come home.
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I love it how many people like you just tell people who have questions to find God like you did. You don't know if atheism is a lie. You feel it is a lie because you believe in God. How can you just project that everyone is going to have this same experience as you?
I tried as a kid MANY times to ask God into my heart. To have a relationship with God. I was 10 years old for crying out loud. I never was able to. I never was "touched" by His presence like apparently you are. And shame on you for assuming tat it's just as natural for this to happen as taking a piss.
When I a was growing up, I never responded very well when I asked a question and the answer was, "well, it just is."
So my prayer is that the atheists who read this thread will someday get tired of the lie that is atheism and find God in their own way and come home.
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I love it how many people like you just tell people who have questions to find God like you did. You don't know if atheism is a lie. You feel it is a lie because you believe in God. How can you just project that everyone is going to have this same experience as you?
I tried as a kid MANY times to ask God into my heart. To have a relationship with God. I was 10 years old for crying out loud. I never was able to. I never was "touched" by His presence like apparently you are. And shame on you for assuming tat it's just as natural for this to happen as taking a piss.
When I a was growing up, I never responded very well when I asked a question and the answer was, "well, it just is."
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