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Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


If he straight up says yes with no qualification (such as: they're metaphors), then I'm done because anyone who honestly believes that, is so incredibly gullible and so incredibly unintelligent that there is no way they can be convinced of anything. 


LOL You've never held a conversation with a snake?  You need to get out more
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln64DYflGT4

I know it's comedy, but that doesn't mean what he says isn't true. (disregard the part about god being gay lol...well...maybe lol)
 
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Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


If he straight up says yes with no qualification (such as: they're metaphors), then I'm done because anyone who honestly believes that, is so incredibly gullible and so incredibly unintelligent that there is no way they can be convinced of anything. 


You can't even say they're metaphors though.  Either everything is true, or not.  I don't understand how it can be ok to pick and choose what is true...  I don't think god would fuck up the bible and put only some truth in there...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln64DYflGT4

I know it's comedy, but that doesn't mean what he says isn't true. (disregard the part about god being gay lol...well...maybe lol)


Gervais is HYSTERICAL
 
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U are mistaken. Of course there are stories Christians have that are far fetched. That is where faith comes in. 

I'm not saying you are stupid for being atheist and I'm not forcing you to believe in God. 

All I'm saying is you are punching holes in a story you cannot back up. All your theories have holes themselves. Hard to argue with anything when your story can't be backed up. 

You say  you will wait for scientists to figure it out and say I have faith 

And what about Goliaths bowl being found in the Palestinian city? What about the cave paintings in Africa? Scientists said it would have been impossible to have an eclipse at that point. Anyone?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

and how is CHRISTIANITY affecting peoples lives in a negative way?

How?

When it says not to have sex outside marriage, if EVERYONE person in the world followed this rule, what do impact do you think it will have on the spread of aids and dead babies via abortion?

Oh real negative isnt it?


African Children Denounced as "witches" by Christian pastors

Christians in Uganda wanted to pass a law to execute homosexuals, but now it's life in prison...

Christians in Africa (an aids riden nation) are missioning and telling people not to wear condoms...

Christians across the country are trying to take away homosexuals rights....

and these are just the Christians

should I go on...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln64DYflGT4

I know it's comedy, but that doesn't mean what he says isn't true. (disregard the part about god being gay lol...well...maybe lol)

 
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Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

Before we move any further, are you trying to tell me Rostos, that you HONESTLY BELIEVE that

1. Noah took 5 million species' of animal on one ark
2. Jonah lived inside a whale
3. Jesus rose from the dead
4. God created adam and eve AND they were the first humans (and explain how this figures into the history of the human race since we know there were tons of animals for a very long period of time before humans)
5. Snakes can speak

So on one hand i get told to diffeentiate between taking things literally and metaphorically, but when it comes to the bible, i am not allowed to....

It is states in the bible that one should cut off their right hand if it causes you to sin, do you think God wants everyone to walk around with no right hand?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:



IT IS CALLED PROBABILITY!!!

PROBABILITY!
PROBABILITY!
PROBABILITY!
PROBABILITY!
PROBABILITY!
PROBABILITY!
PROBABILITY!

Can you calculate the probability god exists???  NOOOOOOOO you can not...

Ok, sure,

The proble i am having with you is, that you dont seem to understand the implications of the odds of life starting by chance...

You mention infinite past, cant you get it through your THICK HEAD that we dont have an INFINITE PAST.

Once you understand that, maybe then we can go further, yet you keep on refering to infinite pasts even though you are breaking mathematical and scientific laws when you do so....

Can you accept we dont have an infinite past?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

So on one hand i get told to diffeentiate between taking things literally and metaphorically, but when it comes to the bible, i am not allowed to....

It is states in the bible that one should cut off their right hand if it causes you to sin, do you think God wants everyone to walk around with no right hand?



Ummm yea?  It says to do so in the bible right??  Oh wait, that part is just silly!! 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

So on one hand i get told to diffeentiate between taking things literally and metaphorically, but when it comes to the bible, i am not allowed to....

It is states in the bible that one should cut off their right hand if it causes you to sin, do you think God wants everyone to walk around with no right hand?


in some cultures they take it literally, not so funny to them

that's why it is a problem, who's to say...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Ok, sure,

The proble i am having with you is, that you dont seem to understand the implications of the odds of life starting by chance...

You mention infinite past, cant you get it through your THICK HEAD that we dont have an INFINITE PAST.

Once you understand that, maybe then we can go further, yet you keep on refering to infinite pasts even though you are breaking mathematical and scientific laws when you do so....

Can you accept we dont have an infinite past?



When did I EVER mention an infinite past??

And what does this have to do with the probability of life on other planets?

Once again, you've ignored the subject and are having a different argument...
 
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hmm, haven't read a word of this thread until now

worlds are colliding!!

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Not too long ago I could have told you that little micro organisms lived on your hands and in your body.

You would have told me I was stupid and believed in Harry Potter and magic. Hmmm, sometimes far fetched crap is true.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

If Jebus was a true hero he would have sacrificed himself by getting AIDS






Well played, Mauer
 
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Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

Not too long ago I could have told you that little micro organisms lived on your hands and in your body.

You would have told me I was stupid and believed in Harry Potter and magic. Hmmm, sometimes far fetched crap is true.


You're not helping along your argument in any facet with statements like this...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

Not too long ago I could have told you that little micro organisms lived on your hands and in your body.

You would have told me I was stupid and believed in Harry Potter and magic. Hmmm, sometimes far fetched crap is true.

and science figured it out, thanks for playing....
 
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Yes I am, far fetched crap can be true. 

Tiny life living on our bodies. I don't believe it. That's Harry Potter crap.i can't see it so it can't be true. I mean come on. You are going tell me I have millions of living organisms on my body.  Idiots
 
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Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

Yes I am, far fetched crap can be true. 

Tiny life living on our bodies. I don't believe it. That's Harry Potter crap.i can't see it so it can't be true. I mean come on. You are going tell me I have millions of living organisms on my body.  Idiots


HAHAHAHAHA he thinks it's a lie!!! HAHAHAHAHA
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:



Christians in Uganda wanted to pass a law to execute homosexuals, but now it's life in prison...

Christians in Africa (an aids riden nation) are missioning and telling people not to wear condoms...

Christians across the country are trying to take away homosexuals rights....

and these are just the Christians

should I go on...

if they didnt have sex outside marriage......

1. Would AIDS continue to spread?

2. Would there be children being born with Aids?

3. Would the abortion rate drop?

Just answer these?

I am not talking about completely eliminated, but drop significantly?

 
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Look what happened when they took the bible and prayers out of school in 1963.  That bar graph will amaze you. Crime, theft, rape, divorce, abortion, murder.  Everything spiked from 200% to 800% increase across the board immediately.  Hmmmm, crazy. 


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:



When did I EVER mention an infinite past??

And what does this have to do with the probability of life on other planets?

Once again, you've ignored the subject and are having a different argument...

It was one of you that mentioned anything is possible with an infinte past....

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

if they didnt have sex outside marriage......

1. Would AIDS continue to spread?

2. Would there be children being born with Aids?

3. Would the abortion rate drop?

Just answer these?

I am not talking about completely eliminated, but drop significantly?


maybe, but that's not going to happen, so the second best thing would be to wear condoms, don't you think

anyway, I like how you try to change the topic again to avoid the point....

I gave you 4 examples of where christianity hurts people and you talk about what if's...

typical rostos...
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

It was one of you that mentioned anything is possible with an infinte past....



Ok well that isn't the point...

In reference to life on other planets, wouldn't you say it would be wise to believe in something that has a probability of close to 100%??

I have never once said that I need proof of anything, but I would like some substantial evidence.
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