Obviously you'd feel better if the Johns solicited your wife or daughters instead. Get a freakin clue.
What clue would that be?
That society would be better off if prostitution were legalized, regulated and taxed?
Please, do tell who is the victim in G.A. getting busted and why society is better off having police bust John's that are looking to have consensual sex with other adults, versus using their resources towards policing other crimes where there are actual victims.
Please tell me what good this arrest does for anyone?
Still trying to comprehend what your attempted point is even trying to address. That John's just go around soliciting regular women in coffee shops, malls or wherever else women hang out at? Do you even have a point with that comment?
Quote Originally Posted by golfing123:
Obviously you'd feel better if the Johns solicited your wife or daughters instead. Get a freakin clue.
What clue would that be?
That society would be better off if prostitution were legalized, regulated and taxed?
Please, do tell who is the victim in G.A. getting busted and why society is better off having police bust John's that are looking to have consensual sex with other adults, versus using their resources towards policing other crimes where there are actual victims.
Please tell me what good this arrest does for anyone?
Still trying to comprehend what your attempted point is even trying to address. That John's just go around soliciting regular women in coffee shops, malls or wherever else women hang out at? Do you even have a point with that comment?
Its always interesting to me that certain people advocate for more personal responsibility for americans exercising their own personal rights and freedoms...
while other people are hell bent on taking away, reducing, controlling and monitoring intrusively through governmental power...
Its always interesting to me that certain people advocate for more personal responsibility for americans exercising their own personal rights and freedoms...
while other people are hell bent on taking away, reducing, controlling and monitoring intrusively through governmental power...
That society would be better off if prostitution were legalized, regulated and taxed?
Please, do tell who is the victim in G.A. getting busted and why society is better off having police bust John's that are looking to have consensual sex with other adults, versus using their resources towards policing other crimes where there are actual victims.
Please tell me what good this arrest does for anyone?
Still trying to comprehend what your attempted point is even trying to address. That John's just go around soliciting regular women in coffee shops, malls or wherever else women hang out at? Do you even have a point with that comment?
If you need to ask what good it does than; like I said, your clueless.
Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
What clue would that be?
That society would be better off if prostitution were legalized, regulated and taxed?
Please, do tell who is the victim in G.A. getting busted and why society is better off having police bust John's that are looking to have consensual sex with other adults, versus using their resources towards policing other crimes where there are actual victims.
Please tell me what good this arrest does for anyone?
Still trying to comprehend what your attempted point is even trying to address. That John's just go around soliciting regular women in coffee shops, malls or wherever else women hang out at? Do you even have a point with that comment?
If you need to ask what good it does than; like I said, your clueless.
Obviously you'd feel better if the Johns solicited your wife or daughters instead. Get a freakin clue.
Yeah, I'm not sure of your point here either. If it's a taxed and legalized profession, then who's the victim? If Greg Anthony was in Nevada, there wouldn't even be a story here because he wouldn't of been "caught" and "arrested" and then publicly shamed into an apology.
I'm sure some of the legal "escorts" in Nevada are wives and all of them are daughters, and I'm sure they make a pretty darn good living doing what they do, so I don't see what your issue is with that. No one's forcing them into it, it's called "free will"
Maybe you should rethink your "argument", I don't think you exactly have it down.....
Quote Originally Posted by golfing123:
Obviously you'd feel better if the Johns solicited your wife or daughters instead. Get a freakin clue.
Yeah, I'm not sure of your point here either. If it's a taxed and legalized profession, then who's the victim? If Greg Anthony was in Nevada, there wouldn't even be a story here because he wouldn't of been "caught" and "arrested" and then publicly shamed into an apology.
I'm sure some of the legal "escorts" in Nevada are wives and all of them are daughters, and I'm sure they make a pretty darn good living doing what they do, so I don't see what your issue is with that. No one's forcing them into it, it's called "free will"
Maybe you should rethink your "argument", I don't think you exactly have it down.....
Yeah, I'm not sure of your point here either. If it's a taxed and legalized profession, then who's the victim? If Greg Anthony was in Nevada, there wouldn't even be a story here because he wouldn't of been "caught" and "arrested" and then publicly shamed into an apology.
I'm sure some of the legal "escorts" in Nevada are wives and all of them are daughters, and I'm sure they make a pretty darn good living doing what they do, so I don't see what your issue is with that. No one's forcing them into it, it's called "free will"
Maybe you should rethink your "argument", I don't think you exactly have it down.....
Wow dude this happened in D.C. not NV. Your points became mute after that weak attempt at justifying a simple crime. Its not legal nor controlled in D.C. and if you feel that's unjust than pick up your signs with your wife and kids and march. Its not about whether its morally right or wrong. Unless its controlled, as in NV., prostitution begets crime and crime brings down neighborhoods. The fact that's its Greg Anthony obviously makes you feel it was in a high class area and nobody gets hurt. Nice assessment. Because you say its "free will" its now legal? Its "against the law", what part of that phrase do you not get. I'm glad he got popped and embarrassed and now his kids and family can tell their friends how proud they are of Daddy. Maybe next time he'll take a flight to NV. Unreal.
Quote Originally Posted by JoeyOhhh:
Yeah, I'm not sure of your point here either. If it's a taxed and legalized profession, then who's the victim? If Greg Anthony was in Nevada, there wouldn't even be a story here because he wouldn't of been "caught" and "arrested" and then publicly shamed into an apology.
I'm sure some of the legal "escorts" in Nevada are wives and all of them are daughters, and I'm sure they make a pretty darn good living doing what they do, so I don't see what your issue is with that. No one's forcing them into it, it's called "free will"
Maybe you should rethink your "argument", I don't think you exactly have it down.....
Wow dude this happened in D.C. not NV. Your points became mute after that weak attempt at justifying a simple crime. Its not legal nor controlled in D.C. and if you feel that's unjust than pick up your signs with your wife and kids and march. Its not about whether its morally right or wrong. Unless its controlled, as in NV., prostitution begets crime and crime brings down neighborhoods. The fact that's its Greg Anthony obviously makes you feel it was in a high class area and nobody gets hurt. Nice assessment. Because you say its "free will" its now legal? Its "against the law", what part of that phrase do you not get. I'm glad he got popped and embarrassed and now his kids and family can tell their friends how proud they are of Daddy. Maybe next time he'll take a flight to NV. Unreal.
Wow dude this happened in D.C. not NV. Your points became mute after that weak attempt at justifying a simple crime. Its not legal nor controlled in D.C. and if you feel that's unjust than pick up your signs with your wife and kids and march. Its not about whether its morally right or wrong. Unless its controlled, as in NV., prostitution begets crime and crime brings down neighborhoods. The fact that's its Greg Anthony obviously makes you feel it was in a high class area and nobody gets hurt. Nice assessment. Because you say its "free will" its now legal? Its "against the law", what part of that phrase do you not get. I'm glad he got popped and embarrassed and now his kids and family can tell their friends how proud they are of Daddy. Maybe next time he'll take a flight to NV. Unreal.
There are numerous laws on the books which are outdated and not enforced for the benefit of society. Ever J-walk? Go a few miles over the speed limit? Smoke weed? Strictly enforcing rules like those would be detrimental to society and would benefit no one. Not every law is necessarily a good idea for society.
If prostitution were legalized, regulated and taxed it would be pushed out of neighborhoods and into more suitable areas of towns. Society would see a benefit as well in terms of tax dollars and police would be free to pursue other crimes, such as violent crimes, that actually do harm the community.
Something tells me there might be some sort of personal story involving your wife/daughter on this subject that sparks your outrage. I can't see any other reason why. No one else is outraged by a public figure seeking to having consensual intercourse with another adult.
Quote Originally Posted by golfing123:
Wow dude this happened in D.C. not NV. Your points became mute after that weak attempt at justifying a simple crime. Its not legal nor controlled in D.C. and if you feel that's unjust than pick up your signs with your wife and kids and march. Its not about whether its morally right or wrong. Unless its controlled, as in NV., prostitution begets crime and crime brings down neighborhoods. The fact that's its Greg Anthony obviously makes you feel it was in a high class area and nobody gets hurt. Nice assessment. Because you say its "free will" its now legal? Its "against the law", what part of that phrase do you not get. I'm glad he got popped and embarrassed and now his kids and family can tell their friends how proud they are of Daddy. Maybe next time he'll take a flight to NV. Unreal.
There are numerous laws on the books which are outdated and not enforced for the benefit of society. Ever J-walk? Go a few miles over the speed limit? Smoke weed? Strictly enforcing rules like those would be detrimental to society and would benefit no one. Not every law is necessarily a good idea for society.
If prostitution were legalized, regulated and taxed it would be pushed out of neighborhoods and into more suitable areas of towns. Society would see a benefit as well in terms of tax dollars and police would be free to pursue other crimes, such as violent crimes, that actually do harm the community.
Something tells me there might be some sort of personal story involving your wife/daughter on this subject that sparks your outrage. I can't see any other reason why. No one else is outraged by a public figure seeking to having consensual intercourse with another adult.
There are no if's in this law. Its written in black and white. To what extent do you wish laws to be bent to suit your argument. I already explained why prostitution, in a community that does warrant it , will only bring it down. Its not controlled. I'm not a goody to shoes, spent plenty of days in steams and creams while in the service. For centuries its been legalized in only one state. If I have to explain the reasons for that, over and over again, than you my friend have the issues. Stop fantasizing, if you get caught, you pay. Plain and simple. I;m quite sure its been overlooked plenty of times but this was a sting. Can't be helped. I suggest that you have your better half roll over more often or join your friend in humiliation when caught. Either that or move to NV. Your not changing anything. Whining won't help.
There are no if's in this law. Its written in black and white. To what extent do you wish laws to be bent to suit your argument. I already explained why prostitution, in a community that does warrant it , will only bring it down. Its not controlled. I'm not a goody to shoes, spent plenty of days in steams and creams while in the service. For centuries its been legalized in only one state. If I have to explain the reasons for that, over and over again, than you my friend have the issues. Stop fantasizing, if you get caught, you pay. Plain and simple. I;m quite sure its been overlooked plenty of times but this was a sting. Can't be helped. I suggest that you have your better half roll over more often or join your friend in humiliation when caught. Either that or move to NV. Your not changing anything. Whining won't help.
Wow dude this happened in D.C. not NV. Your points became mute after that weak attempt at justifying a simple crime. Its not legal nor controlled in D.C. and if you feel that's unjust than pick up your signs with your wife and kids and march. Its not about whether its morally right or wrong. Unless its controlled, as in NV., prostitution begets crime and crime brings down neighborhoods. The fact that's its Greg Anthony obviously makes you feel it was in a high class area and nobody gets hurt. Nice assessment. Because you say its "free will" its now legal? Its "against the law", what part of that phrase do you not get. I'm glad he got popped and embarrassed and now his kids and family can tell their friends how proud they are of Daddy. Maybe next time he'll take a flight to NV. Unreal.
Dude, seriously??
You do know that at one time it was legal to own black people as slaves, right? And at one point alcohol was illegal?????
So, I'm taking it you've never littered, accidentally or otherwise.... Because that, my friend is against the law.......... Hopefully you got punished to the fullest extent of the law.......
Did you cut that tag off of your mattress that says "Do Not Remove Under Penalty Of Law"???? That's it!!!!!
FBI - - SWARM!!!!!!! SWARM!!!!! SWARM!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're argument is pointless, and holds no bearing on modern society....... Just curious, how many laws have you broken just today????
Quote Originally Posted by golfing123:
Wow dude this happened in D.C. not NV. Your points became mute after that weak attempt at justifying a simple crime. Its not legal nor controlled in D.C. and if you feel that's unjust than pick up your signs with your wife and kids and march. Its not about whether its morally right or wrong. Unless its controlled, as in NV., prostitution begets crime and crime brings down neighborhoods. The fact that's its Greg Anthony obviously makes you feel it was in a high class area and nobody gets hurt. Nice assessment. Because you say its "free will" its now legal? Its "against the law", what part of that phrase do you not get. I'm glad he got popped and embarrassed and now his kids and family can tell their friends how proud they are of Daddy. Maybe next time he'll take a flight to NV. Unreal.
Dude, seriously??
You do know that at one time it was legal to own black people as slaves, right? And at one point alcohol was illegal?????
So, I'm taking it you've never littered, accidentally or otherwise.... Because that, my friend is against the law.......... Hopefully you got punished to the fullest extent of the law.......
Did you cut that tag off of your mattress that says "Do Not Remove Under Penalty Of Law"???? That's it!!!!!
FBI - - SWARM!!!!!!! SWARM!!!!! SWARM!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're argument is pointless, and holds no bearing on modern society....... Just curious, how many laws have you broken just today????
You do know that at one time it was legal to own black people as slaves, right? And at one point alcohol was illegal?????
So, I'm taking it you've never littered, accidentally or otherwise.... Because that, my friend is against the law.......... Hopefully you got punished to the fullest extent of the law.......
Did you cut that tag off of your mattress that says "Do Not Remove Under Penalty Of Law"???? That's it!!!!!
FBI - - SWARM!!!!!!! SWARM!!!!! SWARM!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're argument is pointless, and holds no bearing on modern society....... Just curious, how many laws have you broken just today????
Modern society? Last I checked we are still a society governed by laws. You don't like it, leave. People like you idolize the rich and famous, whom don't give a rats a$$ about you. If it was a bum off the streets you would of cared less. I'm sure I broke plenty of laws today, do you really care. You deem it necessary to pity this guy cause of his name. The fact that he's married with kids doesn't even fall into your equation. Your family must think highly of you. I pity you and those that stand behind this piece of sh.t because of who he is. Whether you agree with the law should not matter. Yea I'm proud to stand up for Greg Anthony. How sad this "MODERN SOCIETY" has become.
Quote Originally Posted by JoeyOhhh:
Dude, seriously??
You do know that at one time it was legal to own black people as slaves, right? And at one point alcohol was illegal?????
So, I'm taking it you've never littered, accidentally or otherwise.... Because that, my friend is against the law.......... Hopefully you got punished to the fullest extent of the law.......
Did you cut that tag off of your mattress that says "Do Not Remove Under Penalty Of Law"???? That's it!!!!!
FBI - - SWARM!!!!!!! SWARM!!!!! SWARM!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're argument is pointless, and holds no bearing on modern society....... Just curious, how many laws have you broken just today????
Modern society? Last I checked we are still a society governed by laws. You don't like it, leave. People like you idolize the rich and famous, whom don't give a rats a$$ about you. If it was a bum off the streets you would of cared less. I'm sure I broke plenty of laws today, do you really care. You deem it necessary to pity this guy cause of his name. The fact that he's married with kids doesn't even fall into your equation. Your family must think highly of you. I pity you and those that stand behind this piece of sh.t because of who he is. Whether you agree with the law should not matter. Yea I'm proud to stand up for Greg Anthony. How sad this "MODERN SOCIETY" has become.
Modern society? Last I checked we are still a society governed by laws. You don't like it, leave. People like you idolize the rich and famous, whom don't give a rats a$$ about you. If it was a bum off the streets you would of cared less. I'm sure I broke plenty of laws today, do you really care. You deem it necessary to pity this guy cause of his name. The fact that he's married with kids doesn't even fall into your equation. Your family must think highly of you. I pity you and those that stand behind this piece of sh.t because of who he is. Whether you agree with the law should not matter. Yea I'm proud to stand up for Greg Anthony. How sad this "MODERN SOCIETY" has become.
WHOA!!!! WHOA!!!!!! Easy there Golfing123 - you're so high up on your horse, I can't even see you anymore!!!! Let's back the truck up, shall we......
Have you ever been married? I'm guessing not...... But, you do know that in some cultures "adultery" is punishable by death, right? Luckily for Greg Anthony this incident didn't happen in Saudi Arabia......... Oh, but wait, according to you and your "moral code" Greg Anthony would've been stoned to death because of his "crimes", right? Is that the way you feel, Mister "Letter Of The Law"????
Secondly, if it was a "Bum off the streets" accused of this "crime", would anybody even be talking about it??? NO!! - Hey, I couldn't give to sh!ts about Greg Anthony, but if he wasn't a "public figure" would anybody even care? I'm thinking not..........
.......and the fact that he's "Married, With Kids"? Since when is that part of the "crime"? Does your wife/girlfriend wear a Burka? Who gives a SH!T!!!! That is between Greg & his wife, and no one else..... Not you, not me, not TMZ or Access Hollywood..... Maybe his wife already knows about his "infidelity" and is cool with it - who am I to judge?
So, once again, there "Osama Bin Golfing" - get off your moral high horse and get back down to the real world called "America". I see your from Wisconsin - - FACE IT!!!! THE FUKING PACKERS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote Originally Posted by golfing123:
Modern society? Last I checked we are still a society governed by laws. You don't like it, leave. People like you idolize the rich and famous, whom don't give a rats a$$ about you. If it was a bum off the streets you would of cared less. I'm sure I broke plenty of laws today, do you really care. You deem it necessary to pity this guy cause of his name. The fact that he's married with kids doesn't even fall into your equation. Your family must think highly of you. I pity you and those that stand behind this piece of sh.t because of who he is. Whether you agree with the law should not matter. Yea I'm proud to stand up for Greg Anthony. How sad this "MODERN SOCIETY" has become.
WHOA!!!! WHOA!!!!!! Easy there Golfing123 - you're so high up on your horse, I can't even see you anymore!!!! Let's back the truck up, shall we......
Have you ever been married? I'm guessing not...... But, you do know that in some cultures "adultery" is punishable by death, right? Luckily for Greg Anthony this incident didn't happen in Saudi Arabia......... Oh, but wait, according to you and your "moral code" Greg Anthony would've been stoned to death because of his "crimes", right? Is that the way you feel, Mister "Letter Of The Law"????
Secondly, if it was a "Bum off the streets" accused of this "crime", would anybody even be talking about it??? NO!! - Hey, I couldn't give to sh!ts about Greg Anthony, but if he wasn't a "public figure" would anybody even care? I'm thinking not..........
.......and the fact that he's "Married, With Kids"? Since when is that part of the "crime"? Does your wife/girlfriend wear a Burka? Who gives a SH!T!!!! That is between Greg & his wife, and no one else..... Not you, not me, not TMZ or Access Hollywood..... Maybe his wife already knows about his "infidelity" and is cool with it - who am I to judge?
So, once again, there "Osama Bin Golfing" - get off your moral high horse and get back down to the real world called "America". I see your from Wisconsin - - FACE IT!!!! THE FUKING PACKERS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHOA!!!! WHOA!!!!!! Easy there Golfing123 - you're so high up on your horse, I can't even see you anymore!!!! Let's back the truck up, shall we......
Have you ever been married? I'm guessing not...... But, you do know that in some cultures "adultery" is punishable by death, right? Luckily for Greg Anthony this incident didn't happen in Saudi Arabia......... Oh, but wait, according to you and your "moral code" Greg Anthony would've been stoned to death because of his "crimes", right? Is that the way you feel, Mister "Letter Of The Law"????
Secondly, if it was a "Bum off the streets" accused of this "crime", would anybody even be talking about it??? NO!! - Hey, I couldn't give to sh!ts about Greg Anthony, but if he wasn't a "public figure" would anybody even care? I'm thinking not..........
.......and the fact that he's "Married, With Kids"? Since when is that part of the "crime"? Does your wife/girlfriend wear a Burka? Who gives a SH!T!!!! That is between Greg & his wife, and no one else..... Not you, not me, not TMZ or Access Hollywood..... Maybe his wife already knows about his "infidelity" and is cool with it - who am I to judge?
So, once again, there "Osama Bin Golfing" - get off your moral high horse and get back down to the real world called "America". I see your from Wisconsin - - FACE IT!!!! THE FUKING PACKERS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My god your gonna pop a vein. Settle down. Its not that bad. Bottom line here is the dumb a$$ got caught and you disagree with it. I say that's to freaking bad. You worship people of fame, I worship no one. The laws are the same for him as they are for the scum bag down the road. Deal with it. I could care less about what you think is right or wrong. Your hero was busted. Case closed!!!
Quote Originally Posted by JoeyOhhh:
WHOA!!!! WHOA!!!!!! Easy there Golfing123 - you're so high up on your horse, I can't even see you anymore!!!! Let's back the truck up, shall we......
Have you ever been married? I'm guessing not...... But, you do know that in some cultures "adultery" is punishable by death, right? Luckily for Greg Anthony this incident didn't happen in Saudi Arabia......... Oh, but wait, according to you and your "moral code" Greg Anthony would've been stoned to death because of his "crimes", right? Is that the way you feel, Mister "Letter Of The Law"????
Secondly, if it was a "Bum off the streets" accused of this "crime", would anybody even be talking about it??? NO!! - Hey, I couldn't give to sh!ts about Greg Anthony, but if he wasn't a "public figure" would anybody even care? I'm thinking not..........
.......and the fact that he's "Married, With Kids"? Since when is that part of the "crime"? Does your wife/girlfriend wear a Burka? Who gives a SH!T!!!! That is between Greg & his wife, and no one else..... Not you, not me, not TMZ or Access Hollywood..... Maybe his wife already knows about his "infidelity" and is cool with it - who am I to judge?
So, once again, there "Osama Bin Golfing" - get off your moral high horse and get back down to the real world called "America". I see your from Wisconsin - - FACE IT!!!! THE FUKING PACKERS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My god your gonna pop a vein. Settle down. Its not that bad. Bottom line here is the dumb a$$ got caught and you disagree with it. I say that's to freaking bad. You worship people of fame, I worship no one. The laws are the same for him as they are for the scum bag down the road. Deal with it. I could care less about what you think is right or wrong. Your hero was busted. Case closed!!!
I think this might be an example of the "broken window" enforcment that was used by Guileoni(sp) in NYC when he came in as mayor.The point is that minor violations of law/codes if allowed to go unaddressed create an attitude/environ that leads to more serious violations and degradition of the neighborhood.Give an inch and they'll take a mile.In NYC,they tried to close the stripclubs by a hundred cuts and were able to segregate them though techinically they were legal businesses.Also,cops like to play it up when they catch a big fish in their nets.
I think this might be an example of the "broken window" enforcment that was used by Guileoni(sp) in NYC when he came in as mayor.The point is that minor violations of law/codes if allowed to go unaddressed create an attitude/environ that leads to more serious violations and degradition of the neighborhood.Give an inch and they'll take a mile.In NYC,they tried to close the stripclubs by a hundred cuts and were able to segregate them though techinically they were legal businesses.Also,cops like to play it up when they catch a big fish in their nets.
I think this might be an example of the "broken window" enforcment that was used by Guileoni(sp) in NYC when he came in as mayor.The point is that minor violations of law/codes if allowed to go unaddressed create an attitude/environ that leads to more serious violations and degradition of the neighborhood.Give an inch and they'll take a mile.In NYC,they tried to close the stripclubs by a hundred cuts and were able to segregate them though techinically they were legal businesses.Also,cops like to play it up when they catch a big fish in their nets.
As much as I hate resources being used on "petty" crimes, I think this is true. Lax on prostitution and suddenly the drug dealers show up and become more bold. Not to mention, all the things that have been pushed underground due to the fear of getting busted would be out in the open. Can't imagine many would stand for that.
Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:
I think this might be an example of the "broken window" enforcment that was used by Guileoni(sp) in NYC when he came in as mayor.The point is that minor violations of law/codes if allowed to go unaddressed create an attitude/environ that leads to more serious violations and degradition of the neighborhood.Give an inch and they'll take a mile.In NYC,they tried to close the stripclubs by a hundred cuts and were able to segregate them though techinically they were legal businesses.Also,cops like to play it up when they catch a big fish in their nets.
As much as I hate resources being used on "petty" crimes, I think this is true. Lax on prostitution and suddenly the drug dealers show up and become more bold. Not to mention, all the things that have been pushed underground due to the fear of getting busted would be out in the open. Can't imagine many would stand for that.
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