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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2015 - 3:20 PM ET #101

    The case began with the Miami scumbag laying out all the dirty laundry and of course he received immunity for his testimony. 

    If ever I wanted some guy to drop dead it was this son of a biitch. 

    Coins was gift wrapped by his testimony and received 18 months for money laundering and was also indicted for failing to disclose his client's...us.He was also  disbarred in Massachusetts for his involvement. 


    We feel into a deep funk for months afterwards as  the reality set in that we were now starting to play a very dangerous game.


    How much money is enough. We all had enough for a nice start in life if we could stay out of the can. We discussed  continuing after this setback  and agreed it seemed foolish to take any further risks.

    The feds were kicking into high gear with the use of the Ricco act. Trying to prove on going criminal enterprises for all pot guys and they were falling all over the country and falling with lots of time. 

    We decided to suspend our importations for awhile and let things settle down.The good guys were all getting out of the game and were being replaced with guys that sold all kinds of crap that we didn't want to have anything to do with.


    We set up a fund for Coins and made sure all his people were taken care of.

    Julie didn't want to take any breaks.He was the one dissenter in the group and we tried to placate him as best we could and keep him in the family but it seemed like it would be only a matter of time before he went his own way.


    I again returned to California. 

    Jenna had moved back to Bolinas and the Russian river cabin was peaceful. 

    I spent the next few months messing with the farm in Mendocino. Trask and I had become good friends and we pulled 50 trees of a center parcel of the land and built a 2 bedroom redwood cabin.A couple I knew from Calistoga  had lost their house in a fire and they helped us  build while camping on the land.Red and Marty, had owned a farm in Calistoga and had grown organic Vegetables and herbs mostly while they spent 10 years building the house which eventually burned in a suspicious fire. They were great people and would eventually move into the cabin and begin to clear about 5 acres to farm.

      
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    The case began with the Miami scumbag laying out all the dirty laundry and of course he received immunity for his testimony. 

    If ever I wanted some guy to drop dead it was this son of a biitch. 

    Coins was gift wrapped by his testimony and received 18 months for money laundering and was also indicted for failing to disclose his client's...us.He was also  disbarred in Massachusetts for his involvement. 


    We feel into a deep funk for months afterwards as  the reality set in that we were now starting to play a very dangerous game.


    How much money is enough. We all had enough for a nice start in life if we could stay out of the can. We discussed  continuing after this setback  and agreed it seemed foolish to take any further risks.

    The feds were kicking into high gear with the use of the Ricco act. Trying to prove on going criminal enterprises for all pot guys and they were falling all over the country and falling with lots of time. 

    We decided to suspend our importations for awhile and let things settle down.The good guys were all getting out of the game and were being replaced with guys that sold all kinds of crap that we didn't want to have anything to do with.


    We set up a fund for Coins and made sure all his people were taken care of.

    Julie didn't want to take any breaks.He was the one dissenter in the group and we tried to placate him as best we could and keep him in the family but it seemed like it would be only a matter of time before he went his own way.


    I again returned to California. 

    Jenna had moved back to Bolinas and the Russian river cabin was peaceful. 

    I spent the next few months messing with the farm in Mendocino. Trask and I had become good friends and we pulled 50 trees of a center parcel of the land and built a 2 bedroom redwood cabin.A couple I knew from Calistoga  had lost their house in a fire and they helped us  build while camping on the land.Red and Marty, had owned a farm in Calistoga and had grown organic Vegetables and herbs mostly while they spent 10 years building the house which eventually burned in a suspicious fire. They were great people and would eventually move into the cabin and begin to clear about 5 acres to farm.

      
     
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    The think tank continued through the summer of 83 working together we had a nice summer with a few huge hits our book covering action in golf and baseball mostly also had a good summer.

    In the fall of 1983 we opened up with football and action flowed in stronger than ever. We now had four locations in Boston and the surrounding area and had offices in Colorado,California,Arizona and Florida.

    We focused on our customers in Boston area but more and more action came in from the west and we were bailing most of it off in Vegas. We had a broker now in Vegas who had a group of runners to spread out the action.


    In the winter of 83/84 Julie was the only one still working the other business he had a half dozen committed guys that continued to supply the market but as a group we were totally out of the action and had no intentions of getting back in.


    I started a new company in California and began to focus on the fish business we exported and imported from East to West and business was booming. 

    I continued to gamble and take action every day. The think tank was so successful that it was becoming more difficult to spread the action. As a group in 1984 we banked millions in successful wagers and were becoming known by this time as the Boston boys in betting circles the word was out on us in Vegas.


    In Cambridge the advent of the computing age was starting to become a reality our connection at IBM and M.I.T.were telling us that we soon could set up databases on disks. 

    It was 1984 when we bought our first computer an Apple and with the help of the Cambridge techs we started to transfer our records from paper to floppy disks.

    The world wide web had not been invented yet but we purchased time from IBM they had giant storefront off Newbury St.filled with huge black boxes that glowed day and night.

    We really had no idea how this was to play out in the future but our tech guys were talking about a bold new age and that we would be in on the ground floor.


    The farm in California was just about ready to plant by the early spring in 1984, Red and Marty had punched out a 3 acre garden and planted vegetables and some weed  just to see what they could grow. We had no intentions at the time of ever making this a commercial grow.


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    The think tank continued through the summer of 83 working together we had a nice summer with a few huge hits our book covering action in golf and baseball mostly also had a good summer.

    In the fall of 1983 we opened up with football and action flowed in stronger than ever. We now had four locations in Boston and the surrounding area and had offices in Colorado,California,Arizona and Florida.

    We focused on our customers in Boston area but more and more action came in from the west and we were bailing most of it off in Vegas. We had a broker now in Vegas who had a group of runners to spread out the action.


    In the winter of 83/84 Julie was the only one still working the other business he had a half dozen committed guys that continued to supply the market but as a group we were totally out of the action and had no intentions of getting back in.


    I started a new company in California and began to focus on the fish business we exported and imported from East to West and business was booming. 

    I continued to gamble and take action every day. The think tank was so successful that it was becoming more difficult to spread the action. As a group in 1984 we banked millions in successful wagers and were becoming known by this time as the Boston boys in betting circles the word was out on us in Vegas.


    In Cambridge the advent of the computing age was starting to become a reality our connection at IBM and M.I.T.were telling us that we soon could set up databases on disks. 

    It was 1984 when we bought our first computer an Apple and with the help of the Cambridge techs we started to transfer our records from paper to floppy disks.

    The world wide web had not been invented yet but we purchased time from IBM they had giant storefront off Newbury St.filled with huge black boxes that glowed day and night.

    We really had no idea how this was to play out in the future but our tech guys were talking about a bold new age and that we would be in on the ground floor.


    The farm in California was just about ready to plant by the early spring in 1984, Red and Marty had punched out a 3 acre garden and planted vegetables and some weed  just to see what they could grow. We had no intentions at the time of ever making this a commercial grow.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2015 - 11:19 PM ET #105

    I'm very interested  hear the conclusion to this epic novel...

    But I ask you this... you describe a life of growing up in organized crime family/neighborhood and do the running of numbers, bookmaking, and drug dealing and transporting, and all other money making ventures along the way.  What is not present in this tale whatsoever is any mention of any protection of turf.  Are we to believe that you and your friends, and your uncle and all others involved carved out this outlaw lifestyle while never cracking any skulls? That seems a bit hard to believe.

    All just a bunch of regular guys living large?  No skeletons in the closet?  yea...


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    I'm very interested  hear the conclusion to this epic novel...

    But I ask you this... you describe a life of growing up in organized crime family/neighborhood and do the running of numbers, bookmaking, and drug dealing and transporting, and all other money making ventures along the way.  What is not present in this tale whatsoever is any mention of any protection of turf.  Are we to believe that you and your friends, and your uncle and all others involved carved out this outlaw lifestyle while never cracking any skulls? That seems a bit hard to believe.

    All just a bunch of regular guys living large?  No skeletons in the closet?  yea...


     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 9:11 AM ET #106

    Are skeletons not best left in closets sir? Turn off the station believe what you like my life won't change one way or the other coach.
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    Are skeletons not best left in closets sir? Turn off the station believe what you like my life won't change one way or the other coach.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 9:30 AM ET #107



    Hey SportsFan... let the man tell his story.

    Obviously he can't include certain details.

    If you can't read between the lines that's YOUR problem.

    Everybody else can fill in the blanks, WTF is YOUR problem?

    Now, Shaddup Dummy and stop ruining the Thread.
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Hey SportsFan... let the man tell his story.

    Obviously he can't include certain details.

    If you can't read between the lines that's YOUR problem.

    Everybody else can fill in the blanks, WTF is YOUR problem?

    Now, Shaddup Dummy and stop ruining the Thread.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 9:52 AM ET #108

    No problem here... I thought it needed to be asked

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    No problem here... I thought it needed to be asked

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 9:59 AM ET #109

    We need a physical description of you so we can figure out which actor would be casted...
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    We need a physical description of you so we can figure out which actor would be casted...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    We need a physical description of you so we can figure out which actor would be casted...


    Well, I guess this is true.

    He's definitely not Michael Corleone.

    Some kind of a mongrel mix between Lucky Luciano and Al Capone.
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    We need a physical description of you so we can figure out which actor would be casted...


    Well, I guess this is true.

    He's definitely not Michael Corleone.

    Some kind of a mongrel mix between Lucky Luciano and Al Capone.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 11:05 AM ET #111

    I guess you guys have heard enough of this. Just so your picture is complete though I am 5' 2 and weigh 400 lbs have bright red curly hair and one eye. Do you want me to enclose my address as well?
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    I guess you guys have heard enough of this. Just so your picture is complete though I am 5' 2 and weigh 400 lbs have bright red curly hair and one eye. Do you want me to enclose my address as well?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 11:39 AM ET #112

    Keep it up Blue, just ignore that Sportsfan guy. As Goose said, most of us can read between the lines and really appreciate you Bio



    Gotta go pee!
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    Keep it up Blue, just ignore that Sportsfan guy. As Goose said, most of us can read between the lines and really appreciate you Bio



     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 12:05 PM ET #113

    Thought this nonsense had finished. 
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    Thought this nonsense had finished. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 12:36 PM ET #114

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    I guess you guys have heard enough of this. Just so your picture is complete though I am 5' 2 and weigh 400 lbs have bright red curly hair and one eye. Do you want me to enclose my address as well?

     

    Definitely NOT what I was reading "between the lines"....but please do continue.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    I guess you guys have heard enough of this. Just so your picture is complete though I am 5' 2 and weigh 400 lbs have bright red curly hair and one eye. Do you want me to enclose my address as well?

     

    Definitely NOT what I was reading "between the lines"....but please do continue.....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 2:56 PM ET #115

    What kind of connection if any did your group have with Whitey Bulger?
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    What kind of connection if any did your group have with Whitey Bulger?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 8:48 PM ET #116

    Bluefin.. You were not the kind of guy who would let a couple of critics stop you in the 1960s.

    So don't let a few inconsiderate critics stop you now.

    Please continue with your story.  I'm sure that 98% of readers are very interested, the others do not have to open your posts if they do like them.

    Thanks,

    Don Juan

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    Bluefin.. You were not the kind of guy who would let a couple of critics stop you in the 1960s.

    So don't let a few inconsiderate critics stop you now.

    Please continue with your story.  I'm sure that 98% of readers are very interested, the others do not have to open your posts if they do like them.

    Thanks,

    Don Juan

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 8:49 PM ET #117

    *  If they Don't like them.
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    *  If they Don't like them.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2015 - 12:48 AM ET #118

    bluefin, these mindless trolls pollute the web. please don't allow them to discourage you, and to ruin your historical bio. thanks. am looking forward to your continuing.
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    bluefin, these mindless trolls pollute the web. please don't allow them to discourage you, and to ruin your historical bio. thanks. am looking forward to your continuing.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesxnj:

    What kind of connection if any did your group have with Whitey Bulger?



    Good question. 

    But I'm fairly certain that Whitey Bulger had bigger fish to fry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesxnj:

    What kind of connection if any did your group have with Whitey Bulger?



    Good question. 

    But I'm fairly certain that Whitey Bulger had bigger fish to fry.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2015 - 11:15 AM ET #120

    None our office called in action in Boston to a independent group that was only one of many that was putting in action to the main office which was controlled by the New England Mob. The boss was Gennaro Anguilo until 1986 when he went to the can.
     The only contact any office in Boston had with the main office was if there was conflict between offices over a player who became a problem by not paying or double dipping and how the problem was handled was overseen by the main office.
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    None our office called in action in Boston to a independent group that was only one of many that was putting in action to the main office which was controlled by the New England Mob. The boss was Gennaro Anguilo until 1986 when he went to the can.
     The only contact any office in Boston had with the main office was if there was conflict between offices over a player who became a problem by not paying or double dipping and how the problem was handled was overseen by the main office.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2015 - 12:00 PM ET #121

    Most people do not understand how intra office action goes. If your office had more winning players in a week than losing players your office went into make up meaning that you had a negative balance carried through till the following week.If you had a problem with a player that worked exclusively with you then it was your problem to solve and if your office got stiffed you were still responsible to cover than action with the main office. If it was discovered that a player was using multiple offices then the main office got involved to settle the disputed player between the offices involved,usually this meant  simply cutting off a player that the word came down on.
    Make up between offices was to keep any office from playing themselves and taking advantage of any possible insider play or middling off two lines from the same organization.
    This is the reason why the think tank spread our action out over many locations to stay out of make up caused by our own play.
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    Most people do not understand how intra office action goes. If your office had more winning players in a week than losing players your office went into make up meaning that you had a negative balance carried through till the following week.If you had a problem with a player that worked exclusively with you then it was your problem to solve and if your office got stiffed you were still responsible to cover than action with the main office. If it was discovered that a player was using multiple offices then the main office got involved to settle the disputed player between the offices involved,usually this meant  simply cutting off a player that the word came down on.
    Make up between offices was to keep any office from playing themselves and taking advantage of any possible insider play or middling off two lines from the same organization.
    This is the reason why the think tank spread our action out over many locations to stay out of make up caused by our own play.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2015 - 9:08 AM ET #122



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    Its seems that many have no clue how the families really operated. It’s easy to point to the well known leaders of the families but what truly made a man was not just a birthright or you desire to join they had to need you.Most associates those that did business with the families were not actually members and very few were made men.The families were not out recruiting new members nor trying to keep business inside the families. In fact the opposite was occurring throughout the 70’s and early 80's in that the families wanted all the business they could get but were very happy to just bank others crimes and not have their own commit them. Anyway possible to take focus off of the families was encouraged, if they could get a piece of the action that was good enough in reality they didn't want to know you anymore than you wanted to know them.You had to be well placed to receive any help or favor from the families in the eighties. They saw the writing on the wall and tried to disassociate from all they could that drew publicity, the days of flashy guys hanging on street corners was totally dead by mid eighties. This was a major reason why guys like Whitey and all his associates were pursued so intensely because they were the last of the easily identifiable old school mobsters.
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    Its seems that many have no clue how the families really operated. It’s easy to point to the well known leaders of the families but what truly made a man was not just a birthright or you desire to join they had to need you.Most associates those that did business with the families were not actually members and very few were made men.The families were not out recruiting new members nor trying to keep business inside the families. In fact the opposite was occurring throughout the 70’s and early 80's in that the families wanted all the business they could get but were very happy to just bank others crimes and not have their own commit them. Anyway possible to take focus off of the families was encouraged, if they could get a piece of the action that was good enough in reality they didn't want to know you anymore than you wanted to know them.You had to be well placed to receive any help or favor from the families in the eighties. They saw the writing on the wall and tried to disassociate from all they could that drew publicity, the days of flashy guys hanging on street corners was totally dead by mid eighties. This was a major reason why guys like Whitey and all his associates were pursued so intensely because they were the last of the easily identifiable old school mobsters.
     
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    The reason why Gotti had to go one way or the other.

    If he didn't go to prison he would have been off'ed.
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    The reason why Gotti had to go one way or the other.

    If he didn't go to prison he would have been off'ed.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2015 - 10:20 AM ET #125

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    I guess you guys have heard enough of this. Just so your picture is complete though I am 5' 2 and weigh 400 lbs have bright red curly hair and one eye. Do you want me to enclose my address as well?
           Good read BF 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    I guess you guys have heard enough of this. Just so your picture is complete though I am 5' 2 and weigh 400 lbs have bright red curly hair and one eye. Do you want me to enclose my address as well?
           Good read BF 
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