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    BrandyIxie
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 7:39 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    This is silly. The bubble will have to burst at some point. With this increased value too, you have to wonder if hackers won't start to try and hack into a bucket load of these like they have before.


    You are so correct. Hackers are furiously attacking all the time. The safe way is to store the bulk of your BTC in an offline wallet (an unplugged flash drive not connected to the internet) and transferring what you need to an online wallet.

    It's like keeping your $5000 in your basement safe, but having $200 in your pocket. If you get mugged or pickpockted of the $200, you've lost $200.

    Also successful hacking would be aimed at getting you to give up your passwords, which by the way, nobody in the world knows except you. Difficult to brute-force the actual encryption keys, given the level of encryption. Would take the fastest computers a trillion years or something to that effect.

    If you lose your password, all the money in that wallet is lost forever. Nobody can get it for you. That's why you should multiple wallets with multiple backup copies of each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    This is silly. The bubble will have to burst at some point. With this increased value too, you have to wonder if hackers won't start to try and hack into a bucket load of these like they have before.


    You are so correct. Hackers are furiously attacking all the time. The safe way is to store the bulk of your BTC in an offline wallet (an unplugged flash drive not connected to the internet) and transferring what you need to an online wallet.

    It's like keeping your $5000 in your basement safe, but having $200 in your pocket. If you get mugged or pickpockted of the $200, you've lost $200.

    Also successful hacking would be aimed at getting you to give up your passwords, which by the way, nobody in the world knows except you. Difficult to brute-force the actual encryption keys, given the level of encryption. Would take the fastest computers a trillion years or something to that effect.

    If you lose your password, all the money in that wallet is lost forever. Nobody can get it for you. That's why you should multiple wallets with multiple backup copies of each.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2013 - 1:26 PM ET #127

    Over 200
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    Over 200
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2013 - 3:20 PM ET #128

    Quote Originally Posted by Chimpo:

    Over 200
    236 spot priced  ,what a crazy ride its been so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimpo:

    Over 200
    236 spot priced  ,what a crazy ride its been so far
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2013 - 5:12 PM ET #129

    funny, bitcoins were originally billed as an alternative currency, and i read nutjobs cheering on how they are going up in value,,,,,priced in usds lol.

    a couple years back when some of us political savvy tards were conversating in the politics forum about alternative currency, i remember bitcoins were worth much less than a dollar
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    funny, bitcoins were originally billed as an alternative currency, and i read nutjobs cheering on how they are going up in value,,,,,priced in usds lol.

    a couple years back when some of us political savvy tards were conversating in the politics forum about alternative currency, i remember bitcoins were worth much less than a dollar
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2013 - 2:43 PM ET #130

    uh oh
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    uh oh
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2013 - 3:26 PM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    uh oh


    Yup I got out at 180 today after it started nose diving

    Next up Litecoin at $4
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    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    uh oh


    Yup I got out at 180 today after it started nose diving

    Next up Litecoin at $4
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2013 - 3:39 PM ET #132

    It got to around $120 I think Mr. Gox got shut down for a while from a DDoS attack.

    Its slowly climbing back up again. People dumped earlier and are jumping back in. The swings are wild today.

    Where I am watching it at

    https://btc-e.com/exchange/btc_usd

    https://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
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    It got to around $120 I think Mr. Gox got shut down for a while from a DDoS attack.

    Its slowly climbing back up again. People dumped earlier and are jumping back in. The swings are wild today.

    Where I am watching it at

    https://btc-e.com/exchange/btc_usd

    https://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2013 - 3:54 PM ET #133

    Bitcoins crashing back down to Earth?

    https://bitcoinity.org/markets

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    Bitcoins crashing back down to Earth?

    https://bitcoinity.org/markets

     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2013 - 4:07 PM ET #134

    Unless you hear some Government want to shut it or some other alternative currency is springing up, i don't think you need to worry too much now....  gotta look at it in long run.  just like gambling.

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    Unless you hear some Government want to shut it or some other alternative currency is springing up, i don't think you need to worry too much now....  gotta look at it in long run.  just like gambling.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2013 - 4:29 PM ET #135

    https://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/

    They explain how Bitcoins started.
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    https://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/

    They explain how Bitcoins started.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2013 - 4:53 PM ET #136

    Around 250 this morning down to 120 about 2 hours ago now to 177 and rising.

    Mt. Gox got shut down by a denial of service attack but has since recovered. Clogged the xchange up pretty bad which caused the crash and now recovery.

    Would have been nice to hit it at 120 a few hours ago.
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    Around 250 this morning down to 120 about 2 hours ago now to 177 and rising.

    Mt. Gox got shut down by a denial of service attack but has since recovered. Clogged the xchange up pretty bad which caused the crash and now recovery.

    Would have been nice to hit it at 120 a few hours ago.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2013 - 7:50 PM ET #137

    THE BUBBLE HATH BURST 
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    THE BUBBLE HATH BURST 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 12:23 AM ET #138

    Litecoin gonna rise? @ $3.39 after being .06c in Novemeber of 2012

    Seems like its the only gamble left to make with Bitcoin going  from $2 to $260 in about a year (most of that being the last month or so).....

    I would think there are a lot of other people out there looking for a similar but cheaper product (gold silver metaphor).....

    I just dont know anything about it....just lookin for some thoughts

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    Litecoin gonna rise? @ $3.39 after being .06c in Novemeber of 2012

    Seems like its the only gamble left to make with Bitcoin going  from $2 to $260 in about a year (most of that being the last month or so).....

    I would think there are a lot of other people out there looking for a similar but cheaper product (gold silver metaphor).....

    I just dont know anything about it....just lookin for some thoughts

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 4:35 PM ET #139

    Bitcoins down to SIXTY dollars?

    Yowza!
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    Bitcoins down to SIXTY dollars?

    Yowza!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 4:56 PM ET #140

    Will be curious to see where it goes when trading resumes
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    Will be curious to see where it goes when trading resumes
     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 9:37 PM ET #141

    My portfolio is in freefall!

    Bitcoin cant be taken seriously until these fluctuations work themselves out.  Its just casino gambling at this point.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    My portfolio is in freefall!

    Bitcoin cant be taken seriously until these fluctuations work themselves out.  Its just casino gambling at this point.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 9:50 PM ET #142

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    My portfolio is in freefall!

    Bitcoin cant be taken seriously until these fluctuations work themselves out.  Its just casino gambling at this point.

    Would have been sweet to have bought 1,000 in 2011 at $2 and sold them this week for $260....

    Have you looked into litecoin? Its still around 1.50ish. with bitcoin going crazy, wouldnt you think there would be some action to be had as people look for a more economical "investment" ?

    You could remodel your yacht

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    My portfolio is in freefall!

    Bitcoin cant be taken seriously until these fluctuations work themselves out.  Its just casino gambling at this point.

    Would have been sweet to have bought 1,000 in 2011 at $2 and sold them this week for $260....

    Have you looked into litecoin? Its still around 1.50ish. with bitcoin going crazy, wouldnt you think there would be some action to be had as people look for a more economical "investment" ?

    You could remodel your yacht

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 9:59 PM ET #143

    185 climbing every minute

    the obvious to me is that hackers took a shot @ the exchange and they are so brilliant because they knew it would crash and they bought/stole/acquired a ton of bitcoins once it crashed. 

    Its past 185 now and climbing every minute.

    this was calculated and smart if you turn a 2 to 1 profit today with volume.

    its been rising and rising after the attack stopped.


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    185 climbing every minute

    the obvious to me is that hackers took a shot @ the exchange and they are so brilliant because they knew it would crash and they bought/stole/acquired a ton of bitcoins once it crashed. 

    Its past 185 now and climbing every minute.

    this was calculated and smart if you turn a 2 to 1 profit today with volume.

    its been rising and rising after the attack stopped.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 10:03 PM ET #144

    BIT CIN

    https://rt.com/usa/users-gox-ddos-bitcoin-707/
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    BIT CIN

    https://rt.com/usa/users-gox-ddos-bitcoin-707/
     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 10:14 PM ET #145

    Here's the deal:

    “Attackers wait until the price of Bitcoins reaches a certain value, sell, destabilize the exchange, wait for everybody to panic-sell their Bitcoins, wait for the price to drop to a certain amount, then stop the attack and start buying as much as they can.”

    “Repeat this two or three times like we saw over the past few days and they profit,” the company says.

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    Here's the deal:

    “Attackers wait until the price of Bitcoins reaches a certain value, sell, destabilize the exchange, wait for everybody to panic-sell their Bitcoins, wait for the price to drop to a certain amount, then stop the attack and start buying as much as they can.”

    “Repeat this two or three times like we saw over the past few days and they profit,” the company says.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 10:53 PM ET #146

    Trading is halted until 2013-04-12 02:00am UTC to allow the market to cooldown following the drop in price. Read more details on the support. Additionally trading fees will not be charged within 48 hours of trading resuming (until 2013-04-14 02:00am UTC).>


    ----this is from the Mt.Gox exchange 
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    Trading is halted until 2013-04-12 02:00am UTC to allow the market to cooldown following the drop in price. Read more details on the support. Additionally trading fees will not be charged within 48 hours of trading resuming (until 2013-04-14 02:00am UTC).>


    ----this is from the Mt.Gox exchange 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 11:01 PM ET #147

    Regarding LiteCoin:

    Redundancy

    Besides a faster first confirmation, Litecoin does not provide any other features over what Bitcoin provides. Because of this lack of innovation, some believe Litecoin is unlikely to match or surpass Bitcoin's value or user-base. It remains to be seen if the use of a different mining algorithm and faster block times add sufficient value for Litecoin's long-term survival.

    Not Silver to Gold

    Some argue that Litecoin cannot make sense as "silver to bitcoin's gold", because Bitcoin itself is both gold and silver: While in the long-run, the BTC unit may be too valuable for everyday trade ("gold"), there are other, much smaller units that can just as well serve the purpose of "silver" while being naturally/automatically "converted" to/from BTC.

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    Regarding LiteCoin:

    Redundancy

    Besides a faster first confirmation, Litecoin does not provide any other features over what Bitcoin provides. Because of this lack of innovation, some believe Litecoin is unlikely to match or surpass Bitcoin's value or user-base. It remains to be seen if the use of a different mining algorithm and faster block times add sufficient value for Litecoin's long-term survival.

    Not Silver to Gold

    Some argue that Litecoin cannot make sense as "silver to bitcoin's gold", because Bitcoin itself is both gold and silver: While in the long-run, the BTC unit may be too valuable for everyday trade ("gold"), there are other, much smaller units that can just as well serve the purpose of "silver" while being naturally/automatically "converted" to/from BTC.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 11:16 PM ET #148

    Miles is that you?
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    Miles is that you?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2013 - 11:40 PM ET #149

    Quote Originally Posted by ZonaCats:

    Regarding LiteCoin:

    Redundancy

    Besides a faster first confirmation, Litecoin does not provide any other features over what Bitcoin provides. Because of this lack of innovation, some believe Litecoin is unlikely to match or surpass Bitcoin's value or user-base. It remains to be seen if the use of a different mining algorithm and faster block times add sufficient value for Litecoin's long-term survival.

    Not Silver to Gold

    Some argue that Litecoin cannot make sense as "silver to bitcoin's gold", because Bitcoin itself is both gold and silver: While in the long-run, the BTC unit may be too valuable for everyday trade ("gold"), there are other, much smaller units that can just as well serve the purpose of "silver" while being naturally/automatically "converted" to/from BTC.

    I get that, I just think the huge price difference will make people speculate woth litecoin simply as a short term investment

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZonaCats:

    Regarding LiteCoin:

    Redundancy

    Besides a faster first confirmation, Litecoin does not provide any other features over what Bitcoin provides. Because of this lack of innovation, some believe Litecoin is unlikely to match or surpass Bitcoin's value or user-base. It remains to be seen if the use of a different mining algorithm and faster block times add sufficient value for Litecoin's long-term survival.

    Not Silver to Gold

    Some argue that Litecoin cannot make sense as "silver to bitcoin's gold", because Bitcoin itself is both gold and silver: While in the long-run, the BTC unit may be too valuable for everyday trade ("gold"), there are other, much smaller units that can just as well serve the purpose of "silver" while being naturally/automatically "converted" to/from BTC.

    I get that, I just think the huge price difference will make people speculate woth litecoin simply as a short term investment

     
     
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