Hello, I am new here and this is my first post. I need your thoughts here about a Basketball prop wager that I truly think was graded incorrectly, and if I might have a case here to file a complaint. So I placed a large prop wager risking about $1200 on Houston Rockets Vs Minnesota T.wolves playoff game 1 and here is the exact wording of the wager that was graded as a LOSS...MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES at HOUSTON ROCKETS (BASKET PROPS) Team to score 10th Point ROCKETS
The Book is one of the best and highest rated books here. They claim that even though Houston scored 10 points first, it was Minnesota that scored the 10th point of the game as the score was 6-2 Houston before Minnesota made a basket to make it 6-4. Please note that the wager didn't say the word OF THE GAME as you can see above, but just said TEAM TO SCORE 10th POINT, which makes it imply which team would score 10 points first on his own, which is commonly offered by most books as a popular prop, and that was my thinking when I paced the wager for this amount, of course. Also what if there was no 10th point at all and the score jumped from 9 to 11 or 8 to 11 without landing on the 10th point, What would be the grading then? It is a very grey area that should make them at least refund the wager as a no action. I am very frustrated about this wager. I have a copy of the ticket with the above exact wording. Please your thoughts and advise here. Thanks all
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Hello, I am new here and this is my first post. I need your thoughts here about a Basketball prop wager that I truly think was graded incorrectly, and if I might have a case here to file a complaint. So I placed a large prop wager risking about $1200 on Houston Rockets Vs Minnesota T.wolves playoff game 1 and here is the exact wording of the wager that was graded as a LOSS...MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES at HOUSTON ROCKETS (BASKET PROPS) Team to score 10th Point ROCKETS
The Book is one of the best and highest rated books here. They claim that even though Houston scored 10 points first, it was Minnesota that scored the 10th point of the game as the score was 6-2 Houston before Minnesota made a basket to make it 6-4. Please note that the wager didn't say the word OF THE GAME as you can see above, but just said TEAM TO SCORE 10th POINT, which makes it imply which team would score 10 points first on his own, which is commonly offered by most books as a popular prop, and that was my thinking when I paced the wager for this amount, of course. Also what if there was no 10th point at all and the score jumped from 9 to 11 or 8 to 11 without landing on the 10th point, What would be the grading then? It is a very grey area that should make them at least refund the wager as a no action. I am very frustrated about this wager. I have a copy of the ticket with the above exact wording. Please your thoughts and advise here. Thanks all
What were the odds of the bet? Houston to scire 10 first would have a fair bit of juice. Who scores the "10th" point would be kind of gimicky and would probably be +money.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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What were the odds of the bet? Houston to scire 10 first would have a fair bit of juice. Who scores the "10th" point would be kind of gimicky and would probably be +money.
What were the odds of the bet? Houston to scire 10 first would have a fair bit of juice. Who scores the "10th" point would be kind of gimicky and would probably be +money.
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
What were the odds of the bet? Houston to scire 10 first would have a fair bit of juice. Who scores the "10th" point would be kind of gimicky and would probably be +money.
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Odds were -145
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
What were the odds of the bet? Houston to scire 10 first would have a fair bit of juice. Who scores the "10th" point would be kind of gimicky and would probably be +money.
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
What were the odds of the bet? Houston to scire 10 first would have a fair bit of juice. Who scores the "10th" point would be kind of gimicky and would probably be +money.
What were the odds of the bet? Houston to scire 10 first would have a fair bit of juice. Who scores the "10th" point would be kind of gimicky and would probably be +money.
Odds where -145 which are reasonable
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
What were the odds of the bet? Houston to scire 10 first would have a fair bit of juice. Who scores the "10th" point would be kind of gimicky and would probably be +money.
What were the odds of the bet? Houston to scire 10 first would have a fair bit of juice. Who scores the "10th" point would be kind of gimicky and would probably be +money.
Odds were -145 which are good but not incorrect as average market price was around -175
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
What were the odds of the bet? Houston to scire 10 first would have a fair bit of juice. Who scores the "10th" point would be kind of gimicky and would probably be +money.
Odds were -145 which are good but not incorrect as average market price was around -175
$1200 on a prop ? When did we get so many whales in the forums ?
Given what he thought he was betting on, I don't think $1200 is unreasonable. It's more a side bet than a gimicky prop. I've never even heard of a "tenth point scored" bet, which is essentially a coin flip and one would assume would be -110.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:
$1200 on a prop ? When did we get so many whales in the forums ?
Given what he thought he was betting on, I don't think $1200 is unreasonable. It's more a side bet than a gimicky prop. I've never even heard of a "tenth point scored" bet, which is essentially a coin flip and one would assume would be -110.
Actually a copy of the wager without the ticket number I already pasted above on my first post. Also I have been with the book for several years and they have been very good. I didn't even argue the grading of the wager with them yet. Just asked them why was it graded as a loss.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Screen shot your betting slips.
Actually a copy of the wager without the ticket number I already pasted above on my first post. Also I have been with the book for several years and they have been very good. I didn't even argue the grading of the wager with them yet. Just asked them why was it graded as a loss.
Amazing that in their explanation responding to my grading inquiry, first thing they mentioned was that this prop not to be mixed with "which team would score 10 first". So they knew what was my intention when I placed the bet and understood that this was my thinking. Also the odds and the wording of the wager tells you it was a suspect wager. I thought I won the wager with Houston scoring 10 first, looked at my account balance to find it at Zero, then contacted them immediately. Very unfair situation for me caused a big loss. As Thrope mentioned they suckered me into betting something different than what I wanted.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Screen shot your betting slips.
Amazing that in their explanation responding to my grading inquiry, first thing they mentioned was that this prop not to be mixed with "which team would score 10 first". So they knew what was my intention when I placed the bet and understood that this was my thinking. Also the odds and the wording of the wager tells you it was a suspect wager. I thought I won the wager with Houston scoring 10 first, looked at my account balance to find it at Zero, then contacted them immediately. Very unfair situation for me caused a big loss. As Thrope mentioned they suckered me into betting something different than what I wanted.
now you be very happy when most all states have LEGAL sports wagers aint no way you get fugggggggeddd again on any wagers becuse you will have physical ticket as proof of your wagers all of them made live and you get paid TODAY not next week or month while a offshore book frezzes your account .I also know aint no such prop side wagers ever available in VEGAS on any Game if so i havent seen or heard of these wacko wagers that you just got fuggged in the butt by a scammy book $1200 gone .and you also said your account is zero .........hmm you risked every dime on a wacko wager that was confusing and set up to screw you over hmmmmmmmmm Hello jeffry's our heads dont screw off in here no body would risk every dime they have on such a goof prop bet I know if i was confused about a wager i'd be on the phone faster than a wild jaguar chasing a rabbit for lunch.SO now try telling your story to sports book watch dog and see where that goes.
As a matter of fact this particular wager cost me around a lot more than that in less than 24 hours...Here is How. So at first I though it was a good wager and deserved risking $1200 as Houston should come up firing from the beginning. But then, just a couple of minutes before kick off I get a bit anxious and thought it was a little too much for an outcome that will be decided in only 2 minutes maybe, and that Houston might come up casual and flat as they often were during the regular season. So I decided to lower the risk by hedging risking $500 on Minnesota to score 10 first at another sportsbook. I end up loosing both wagers as Houston did score 10 first! I saw that the first wager was graded as loss too. Now, I realize I am down $1700 in just 2 minutes even though I picked a winner, to add to my frustration. I decide to get it back on the second half of this same game as it was a Sunday night and that was the only game on the board.
I always tend to stay away from totals especially OVERS in NBA and almost never bet an OVER, which I experienced to be a dead wager usually in the first 3 minutes of the game or the second half as you can see in almost 75% of playoff games. Two dead OVERS yesterday (Under hit easily by 21 and 24 points not even close as usual). This game the 2nd half spread was too tight with Houston not playing well in the 1st H. So I involuntary hit the over 107 2nd H risking $1900 to win $1700 and of course lost. Now I am down $3600. I put another $1000 on NHL game live betting and lost. Now I am down $4600 on wagers I normally don't bet on. An hour later I lose another $1000 on some random wta tennis game in China. Now down $5600. The next day my first wager was also a loss to make $7100 total loss in less than 24 hours just because of this particular tricky wager!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by zebrakiller:
now you be very happy when most all states have LEGAL sports wagers aint no way you get fugggggggeddd again on any wagers becuse you will have physical ticket as proof of your wagers all of them made live and you get paid TODAY not next week or month while a offshore book frezzes your account .I also know aint no such prop side wagers ever available in VEGAS on any Game if so i havent seen or heard of these wacko wagers that you just got fuggged in the butt by a scammy book $1200 gone .and you also said your account is zero .........hmm you risked every dime on a wacko wager that was confusing and set up to screw you over hmmmmmmmmm Hello jeffry's our heads dont screw off in here no body would risk every dime they have on such a goof prop bet I know if i was confused about a wager i'd be on the phone faster than a wild jaguar chasing a rabbit for lunch.SO now try telling your story to sports book watch dog and see where that goes.
As a matter of fact this particular wager cost me around a lot more than that in less than 24 hours...Here is How. So at first I though it was a good wager and deserved risking $1200 as Houston should come up firing from the beginning. But then, just a couple of minutes before kick off I get a bit anxious and thought it was a little too much for an outcome that will be decided in only 2 minutes maybe, and that Houston might come up casual and flat as they often were during the regular season. So I decided to lower the risk by hedging risking $500 on Minnesota to score 10 first at another sportsbook. I end up loosing both wagers as Houston did score 10 first! I saw that the first wager was graded as loss too. Now, I realize I am down $1700 in just 2 minutes even though I picked a winner, to add to my frustration. I decide to get it back on the second half of this same game as it was a Sunday night and that was the only game on the board.
I always tend to stay away from totals especially OVERS in NBA and almost never bet an OVER, which I experienced to be a dead wager usually in the first 3 minutes of the game or the second half as you can see in almost 75% of playoff games. Two dead OVERS yesterday (Under hit easily by 21 and 24 points not even close as usual). This game the 2nd half spread was too tight with Houston not playing well in the 1st H. So I involuntary hit the over 107 2nd H risking $1900 to win $1700 and of course lost. Now I am down $3600. I put another $1000 on NHL game live betting and lost. Now I am down $4600 on wagers I normally don't bet on. An hour later I lose another $1000 on some random wta tennis game in China. Now down $5600. The next day my first wager was also a loss to make $7100 total loss in less than 24 hours just because of this particular tricky wager!!!
Amazing that in their explanation responding to my grading inquiry, first thing they mentioned was that this prop not to be mixed with "which team would score 10 first". So they knew what was my intention when I placed the bet and understood that this was my thinking. Also the odds and the wording of the wager tells you it was a suspect wager. I thought I won the wager with Houston scoring 10 first, looked at my account balance to find it at Zero, then contacted them immediately. Very unfair situation for me caused a big loss. As Thrope mentioned they suckered me into betting something different than what I wanted.
in case you think i didnt read your post there it is you risked every dime you had
$1200 was my whole balance on this account. But I had more money on other books. Trust me this particular bet cost me around $7100 in less than 24 hours.
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Quote Originally Posted by zebrakiller:
Quote Originally Posted by jeffreys123:
Amazing that in their explanation responding to my grading inquiry, first thing they mentioned was that this prop not to be mixed with "which team would score 10 first". So they knew what was my intention when I placed the bet and understood that this was my thinking. Also the odds and the wording of the wager tells you it was a suspect wager. I thought I won the wager with Houston scoring 10 first, looked at my account balance to find it at Zero, then contacted them immediately. Very unfair situation for me caused a big loss. As Thrope mentioned they suckered me into betting something different than what I wanted.
in case you think i didnt read your post there it is you risked every dime you had
$1200 was my whole balance on this account. But I had more money on other books. Trust me this particular bet cost me around $7100 in less than 24 hours.
now you be very happy when most all states have LEGAL sports wagers aint no way you get fugggggggeddd again on any wagers becuse you will have physical ticket as proof of your wagers all of them made live and you get paid TODAY not next week or month while a offshore book frezzes your account .I also know aint no such prop side wagers ever available in VEGAS on any Game if so i havent seen or heard of these wacko wagers that you just got fuggged in the butt by a scammy book $1200 gone .and you also said your account is zero .........hmm you risked every dime on a wacko wager that was confusing and set up to screw you over hmmmmmmmmm Hello jeffry's our heads dont screw off in here no body would risk every dime they have on such a goof prop bet I know if i was confused about a wager i'd be on the phone faster than a wild jaguar chasing a rabbit for lunch.SO now try telling your story to sports book watch dog and see where that goes.
I wasn't confused about the wager, But I was 100% sure that the bet was on Houston to score 10 points first. It is more like a moneyline wager on a home team for the first 3 or 4 minutes instead of first quarter. It is more of a strong wager than a weak one. What's wrong with risking that much? It is very reasonable
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Quote Originally Posted by zebrakiller:
now you be very happy when most all states have LEGAL sports wagers aint no way you get fugggggggeddd again on any wagers becuse you will have physical ticket as proof of your wagers all of them made live and you get paid TODAY not next week or month while a offshore book frezzes your account .I also know aint no such prop side wagers ever available in VEGAS on any Game if so i havent seen or heard of these wacko wagers that you just got fuggged in the butt by a scammy book $1200 gone .and you also said your account is zero .........hmm you risked every dime on a wacko wager that was confusing and set up to screw you over hmmmmmmmmm Hello jeffry's our heads dont screw off in here no body would risk every dime they have on such a goof prop bet I know if i was confused about a wager i'd be on the phone faster than a wild jaguar chasing a rabbit for lunch.SO now try telling your story to sports book watch dog and see where that goes.
I wasn't confused about the wager, But I was 100% sure that the bet was on Houston to score 10 points first. It is more like a moneyline wager on a home team for the first 3 or 4 minutes instead of first quarter. It is more of a strong wager than a weak one. What's wrong with risking that much? It is very reasonable
On first reading of the wager that you posted in post #1 it was apparent that you wagered on THE 10th point to be scored. First Rule of any Gambling Endeavor: Know what you're Betting on......which you violated from the git-go even though you saw red flags.(unusual odds for the prop)
'Tricky wager'...no, you went on Tilt because you realized that you had f*cked up and even tried to hedge but in doing so you didn't know what you were betting on for a 2nd time so giving yourself an excuse to burn another 5k and then crying like a .....
How did you get $7100 in the first place? Inherit it ?
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On first reading of the wager that you posted in post #1 it was apparent that you wagered on THE 10th point to be scored. First Rule of any Gambling Endeavor: Know what you're Betting on......which you violated from the git-go even though you saw red flags.(unusual odds for the prop)
'Tricky wager'...no, you went on Tilt because you realized that you had f*cked up and even tried to hedge but in doing so you didn't know what you were betting on for a 2nd time so giving yourself an excuse to burn another 5k and then crying like a .....
How did you get $7100 in the first place? Inherit it ?
On first reading of the wager that you posted in post #1 it was apparent that you wagered on THE 10th point to be scored. First Rule of any Gambling Endeavor: Know what you're Betting on......which you violated from the git-go even though you saw red flags.(unusual odds for the prop)'Tricky wager'...no, you went on Tilt because you realized that you had f*cked up and even tried to hedge but in doing so you didn't know what you were betting on for a 2nd time so giving yourself an excuse to burn another 5k and then crying like a .....How did you get $7100 in the first place? Inherit it ?
I did know what I was betting on the FIRST time and the SECOND time. The mistake that I made was that I should have read the first wager 3 or 4 times and analyze it before betting it which most people would never do. The wager gave me the impression as to which team would score 10 first, at first glance. Also the odds were very reasonable as the odds for a 10th point scores would have been -105 or so as a coin flip. Also the wager never stated the words OF THE GAME which makes it very suspect. Overall, a bad experience and a very costly lesson.
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Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:
On first reading of the wager that you posted in post #1 it was apparent that you wagered on THE 10th point to be scored. First Rule of any Gambling Endeavor: Know what you're Betting on......which you violated from the git-go even though you saw red flags.(unusual odds for the prop)'Tricky wager'...no, you went on Tilt because you realized that you had f*cked up and even tried to hedge but in doing so you didn't know what you were betting on for a 2nd time so giving yourself an excuse to burn another 5k and then crying like a .....How did you get $7100 in the first place? Inherit it ?
I did know what I was betting on the FIRST time and the SECOND time. The mistake that I made was that I should have read the first wager 3 or 4 times and analyze it before betting it which most people would never do. The wager gave me the impression as to which team would score 10 first, at first glance. Also the odds were very reasonable as the odds for a 10th point scores would have been -105 or so as a coin flip. Also the wager never stated the words OF THE GAME which makes it very suspect. Overall, a bad experience and a very costly lesson.
Posted: a minute ago "Quote" Quote Originally Posted by jeffreys123: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Screen shot your betting slips.Why?? So you have a record of exactly how a wager is worded
He posted the wording:
"MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES at HOUSTON ROCKETS (BASKET PROPS) Team to score 10th Point ROCKETS"
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Posted: a minute ago "Quote" Quote Originally Posted by jeffreys123: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Screen shot your betting slips.Why?? So you have a record of exactly how a wager is worded
He posted the wording:
"MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES at HOUSTON ROCKETS (BASKET PROPS) Team to score 10th Point ROCKETS"
After the wager is settled, win or lose, then you can delete the shots but until then, you would have a reference. I've had a couple times i swore the changed a wager on me. I've also hit the wrong button before so you have to give the benefit of the doubt. So I started taking screen shots.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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After the wager is settled, win or lose, then you can delete the shots but until then, you would have a reference. I've had a couple times i swore the changed a wager on me. I've also hit the wrong button before so you have to give the benefit of the doubt. So I started taking screen shots.
After the wager is settled, win or lose, then you can delete the shots but until then, you would have a reference. I've had a couple times i swore the changed a wager on me. I've also hit the wrong button before so you have to give the benefit of the doubt. So I started taking screen shots.
I had a copy of the ticket saved in my computer, I will also take a screen shot just in case. Thanks for the advice
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
After the wager is settled, win or lose, then you can delete the shots but until then, you would have a reference. I've had a couple times i swore the changed a wager on me. I've also hit the wrong button before so you have to give the benefit of the doubt. So I started taking screen shots.
I had a copy of the ticket saved in my computer, I will also take a screen shot just in case. Thanks for the advice
I did know what I was betting on the FIRST time and the SECOND time. The mistake that I made was that I should have read the first wager 3 or 4 times and analyze it before betting it which most people would never do. The wager gave me the impression as to which team would score 10 first, at first glance. Also the odds were very reasonable as the odds for a 10th point scores would have been -105 or so as a coin flip. Also the wager never stated the words OF THE GAME which makes it very suspect. Overall, a bad experience and a very costly lesson.
Not to Beat a Dead Horse,But you did not know what you were betting the FIRST time...you ASSUMED what you were betting the first time and when you got cold feet and tried to hedge you still didn't know what you had bet the first time and tried to hedge a different side.That you post that this bet was Mis-Graded does not speak well that you still don't understand who f*cked up.Theres a saying about ASSUME but you don't need to hear that crap.Every Gambling Lesson I ever learned I had to PAY for and I'm positive you won't forget this one.
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Quote Originally Posted by jeffreys123:
I did know what I was betting on the FIRST time and the SECOND time. The mistake that I made was that I should have read the first wager 3 or 4 times and analyze it before betting it which most people would never do. The wager gave me the impression as to which team would score 10 first, at first glance. Also the odds were very reasonable as the odds for a 10th point scores would have been -105 or so as a coin flip. Also the wager never stated the words OF THE GAME which makes it very suspect. Overall, a bad experience and a very costly lesson.
Not to Beat a Dead Horse,But you did not know what you were betting the FIRST time...you ASSUMED what you were betting the first time and when you got cold feet and tried to hedge you still didn't know what you had bet the first time and tried to hedge a different side.That you post that this bet was Mis-Graded does not speak well that you still don't understand who f*cked up.Theres a saying about ASSUME but you don't need to hear that crap.Every Gambling Lesson I ever learned I had to PAY for and I'm positive you won't forget this one.
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