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    LRM704
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 2:30 AM ET #26

    and GreenRams, go work for a living you degenerate douchebag
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    and GreenRams, go work for a living you degenerate douchebag
     
    Greens_Rams
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 2:51 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    I don't work for Covers so I can say what the supervision of Covers don't'

    WHAT A CLASSLESS BUNCH OF FUCKIN MORONS.

    I put my life on the line everyday just to put food on our table.

    FRIGGIN IDIOTS


    Sucking dick does not constitute 'putting your life on the line'. But I guess someone has to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    I don't work for Covers so I can say what the supervision of Covers don't'

    WHAT A CLASSLESS BUNCH OF FUCKIN MORONS.

    I put my life on the line everyday just to put food on our table.

    FRIGGIN IDIOTS


    Sucking dick does not constitute 'putting your life on the line'. But I guess someone has to do it.
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 2:57 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    and GreenRams, go work for a living you degenerate douchebag

    Don't worry, I earn an honest living. $105K/year pays the bills and I got a comfortable nest egg in place when I retire in 3 years.

    And I guarantee I've put my 'life on the line' a hell of allot more than you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    and GreenRams, go work for a living you degenerate douchebag

    Don't worry, I earn an honest living. $105K/year pays the bills and I got a comfortable nest egg in place when I retire in 3 years.

    And I guarantee I've put my 'life on the line' a hell of allot more than you have.
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 4:48 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    SnotNose        Read my post directly above and if this doesn't sink into your head then

     

    READ IT AGAIN      IT'S ONLY MONEY 

    The last thing people who just lost a bunch of cash want to hear is that it's only money.  That being stated, I fail to understand why people would have their rent and grocery money tied up in an offshore book, especially in light of the recent poker site crackdown.  I was using betonsports.com when they were shut down years ago and moving forward always knew there was a chance my cash could be gone at any moment w/out notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    SnotNose        Read my post directly above and if this doesn't sink into your head then

     

    READ IT AGAIN      IT'S ONLY MONEY 

    The last thing people who just lost a bunch of cash want to hear is that it's only money.  That being stated, I fail to understand why people would have their rent and grocery money tied up in an offshore book, especially in light of the recent poker site crackdown.  I was using betonsports.com when they were shut down years ago and moving forward always knew there was a chance my cash could be gone at any moment w/out notice.

     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 5:53 AM ET #30

    LRM - I truly appreciate you sticking up for us, but please don't feel as though you have to.

    There's a lot of people on here who are rightfully very pissed off. We are the easiest target because it's not like they can walk into the DOJ's office and start swinging.

    We will take the heat. As I have said, we DID recommend these guys and while it was a completely unforeseeable conclusion, this is the kind of situation we have to accept when a recommendation goes bad.

    We are working on our gameplan now to try to get the funds released.
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    LRM - I truly appreciate you sticking up for us, but please don't feel as though you have to.

    There's a lot of people on here who are rightfully very pissed off. We are the easiest target because it's not like they can walk into the DOJ's office and start swinging.

    We will take the heat. As I have said, we DID recommend these guys and while it was a completely unforeseeable conclusion, this is the kind of situation we have to accept when a recommendation goes bad.

    We are working on our gameplan now to try to get the funds released.
     
    rpuck1
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 7:58 AM ET #31

    damn there goes thatt revenue stream for covers....

    soon they will ask us to pay a small membership fee....lol

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    damn there goes thatt revenue stream for covers....

    soon they will ask us to pay a small membership fee....lol

     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 1:30 PM ET #32

    I realize no one wants to hear it's only money. The thing is we shouldn't have enough in a gambling account to affect our surgeries, school tuition or food. This shows a real problem if you can't go about everyday life because an account got closed. That being said i do feel for those who lost their recreational account.
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    I realize no one wants to hear it's only money. The thing is we shouldn't have enough in a gambling account to affect our surgeries, school tuition or food. This shows a real problem if you can't go about everyday life because an account got closed. That being said i do feel for those who lost their recreational account.
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 7:29 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    Esplanade, you classless asshole, I hope you don't see JACKSHIT


    i hope you never make another dime...then we'll talk about "its only money" when you cant pay your rent or feed yourself asshole
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    Esplanade, you classless asshole, I hope you don't see JACKSHIT


    i hope you never make another dime...then we'll talk about "its only money" when you cant pay your rent or feed yourself asshole
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 7:56 PM ET #34

    I'll second that.
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    I'll second that.
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 8:25 PM ET #35

    Covers Top Recommended Sportsbook is a joke.  It's all based on who pays them the highest $ in advertising. 

    Feel pretty bad for those that took Covers #1 Sportsbook advice.

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    Covers Top Recommended Sportsbook is a joke.  It's all based on who pays them the highest $ in advertising. 

    Feel pretty bad for those that took Covers #1 Sportsbook advice.

     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 11:39 PM ET #36

    This is just the begining.  Watch how many more books go down in the coming months.  The Feds are just getting started.
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    This is just the begining.  Watch how many more books go down in the coming months.  The Feds are just getting started.
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 11:46 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom@Stake:

    LRM - I truly appreciate you sticking up for us, but please don't feel as though you have to.

    There's a lot of people on here who are rightfully very pissed off. We are the easiest target because it's not like they can walk into the DOJ's office and start swinging.

    We will take the heat. As I have said, we DID recommend these guys and while it was a completely unforeseeable conclusion, this is the kind of situation we have to accept when a recommendation goes bad.

    We are working on our gameplan now to try to get the funds released.

    Whats the gameplan I would love to have you share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom@Stake:

    LRM - I truly appreciate you sticking up for us, but please don't feel as though you have to.

    There's a lot of people on here who are rightfully very pissed off. We are the easiest target because it's not like they can walk into the DOJ's office and start swinging.

    We will take the heat. As I have said, we DID recommend these guys and while it was a completely unforeseeable conclusion, this is the kind of situation we have to accept when a recommendation goes bad.

    We are working on our gameplan now to try to get the funds released.

    Whats the gameplan I would love to have you share.

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 12:20 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    I'll second that.

    Rent money and food money in a offshore sportsbook ?

    You guys must be kidding, try betting a game for the enjoyment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    I'll second that.

    Rent money and food money in a offshore sportsbook ?

    You guys must be kidding, try betting a game for the enjoyment.

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 3:17 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    Rent money and food money in a offshore sportsbook ?

    You guys must be kidding, try betting a game for the enjoyment.

     I had no money with BetEd, but these posters are rightfully upset.  However, your arguments are inane and delusional.  If you really believe your own posts, just work for free and the enjoyment of helping out a business owner. 

    Whether someone is betting for "enjoyment" or that is their main source of income, is IRRELEVANT.  For arguments sake, let's say you purchased a $1 lottery ticket since you only bet for "enjoyment." And against infinitesimal odds, you happened to have the winning ticket.  But the lottery states for whatever reason that they are NOT going to pay you one cent of the millions owed you.  I am sure you would have no problem with them f'ing you over, but instead tell them "don't worry, it's only money." 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    Rent money and food money in a offshore sportsbook ?

    You guys must be kidding, try betting a game for the enjoyment.

     I had no money with BetEd, but these posters are rightfully upset.  However, your arguments are inane and delusional.  If you really believe your own posts, just work for free and the enjoyment of helping out a business owner. 

    Whether someone is betting for "enjoyment" or that is their main source of income, is IRRELEVANT.  For arguments sake, let's say you purchased a $1 lottery ticket since you only bet for "enjoyment." And against infinitesimal odds, you happened to have the winning ticket.  But the lottery states for whatever reason that they are NOT going to pay you one cent of the millions owed you.  I am sure you would have no problem with them f'ing you over, but instead tell them "don't worry, it's only money." 

     

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 3:32 AM ET #40

    infinitesimal means tiny

    otherwise good post
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    infinitesimal means tiny

    otherwise good post
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 3:46 AM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

     I had no money with BetEd, but these posters are rightfully upset.  However, your arguments are inane and delusional.  If you really believe your own posts, just work for free and the enjoyment of helping out a business owner. 

    Whether someone is betting for "enjoyment" or that is their main source of income, is IRRELEVANT.  For arguments sake, let's say you purchased a $1 lottery ticket since you only bet for "enjoyment." And against infinitesimal odds, you happened to have the winning ticket.  But the lottery states for whatever reason that they are NOT going to pay you one cent of the millions owed you.  I am sure you would have no problem with them f'ing you over, but instead tell them "don't worry, it's only money." 

     

    And even with your odds of hitting being infinitemisal,

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

     I had no money with BetEd, but these posters are rightfully upset.  However, your arguments are inane and delusional.  If you really believe your own posts, just work for free and the enjoyment of helping out a business owner. 

    Whether someone is betting for "enjoyment" or that is their main source of income, is IRRELEVANT.  For arguments sake, let's say you purchased a $1 lottery ticket since you only bet for "enjoyment." And against infinitesimal odds, you happened to have the winning ticket.  But the lottery states for whatever reason that they are NOT going to pay you one cent of the millions owed you.  I am sure you would have no problem with them f'ing you over, but instead tell them "don't worry, it's only money." 

     

    And even with your odds of hitting being infinitemisal,

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 3:46 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    infinitesimal means tiny

    otherwise good post

     Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    infinitesimal means tiny

    otherwise good post

     Thank you.

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 8:22 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom@Stake:

    LRM - I truly appreciate you sticking up for us, but please don't feel as though you have to.

    There's a lot of people on here who are rightfully very pissed off. We are the easiest target because it's not like they can walk into the DOJ's office and start swinging.

    We will take the heat. As I have said, we DID recommend these guys and while it was a completely unforeseeable conclusion, this is the kind of situation we have to accept when a recommendation goes bad.

    We are working on our gameplan now to try to get the funds released.


    You're working on a gameplan eh? So you're going to take on the federal government now? Give me a goddamn break. I just want to see a guy from covers say "Listen, we made Beted our number one book because they paid us the most money to market for them." Just tell the truth, you have seen time and time again people laughing at the fact that you guys had beted as your number one book. Tell us a few reasons why they were the number one book. Stop digging yourselves a giant hole and just admit that you duped a lot of people into joining a shitty book because you got PAID to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom@Stake:

    LRM - I truly appreciate you sticking up for us, but please don't feel as though you have to.

    There's a lot of people on here who are rightfully very pissed off. We are the easiest target because it's not like they can walk into the DOJ's office and start swinging.

    We will take the heat. As I have said, we DID recommend these guys and while it was a completely unforeseeable conclusion, this is the kind of situation we have to accept when a recommendation goes bad.

    We are working on our gameplan now to try to get the funds released.


    You're working on a gameplan eh? So you're going to take on the federal government now? Give me a goddamn break. I just want to see a guy from covers say "Listen, we made Beted our number one book because they paid us the most money to market for them." Just tell the truth, you have seen time and time again people laughing at the fact that you guys had beted as your number one book. Tell us a few reasons why they were the number one book. Stop digging yourselves a giant hole and just admit that you duped a lot of people into joining a shitty book because you got PAID to do it.
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 9:09 AM ET #44

    My opinion only here...

    1st off, a payment processor was seized (or created by the FEDS) , not any banks…..So Bet ED stating that all their money was seized is complete BS…The only money tied up  would be what was being processed at the time…

    Where does you money stay when you are not depositing or withdrawing? Not at the processor. …it gets depositing to a bank account somewhere….either yours, or BetEd’s.

    So, in my mind, the only logical conclusion is that the BetEd owners packed up and left, and took your money.  I don’t care their problem with the FEDS, or that they are scared, or they are in trouble, they STOLE YOUR MONEY and are trying to blame it on the US Government.

    On Another note…The FEDs have  a 99% conviction rate…so when the FEDS come knocking, you are done.   States not so much…but the Feds are the real deal.

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    My opinion only here...

    1st off, a payment processor was seized (or created by the FEDS) , not any banks…..So Bet ED stating that all their money was seized is complete BS…The only money tied up  would be what was being processed at the time…

    Where does you money stay when you are not depositing or withdrawing? Not at the processor. …it gets depositing to a bank account somewhere….either yours, or BetEd’s.

    So, in my mind, the only logical conclusion is that the BetEd owners packed up and left, and took your money.  I don’t care their problem with the FEDS, or that they are scared, or they are in trouble, they STOLE YOUR MONEY and are trying to blame it on the US Government.

    On Another note…The FEDs have  a 99% conviction rate…so when the FEDS come knocking, you are done.   States not so much…but the Feds are the real deal.

     
    mjmworld
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 4:06 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger7672:



    You're working on a gameplan eh? So you're going to take on the federal government now? Give me a goddamn break. I just want to see a guy from covers say "Listen, we made Beted our number one book because they paid us the most money to market for them." Just tell the truth, you have seen time and time again people laughing at the fact that you guys had beted as your number one book. Tell us a few reasons why they were the number one book. Stop digging yourselves a giant hole and just admit that you duped a lot of people into joining a shitty book because you got PAID to do it.

     

    Trigger

    Bingo - at least you get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger7672:



    You're working on a gameplan eh? So you're going to take on the federal government now? Give me a goddamn break. I just want to see a guy from covers say "Listen, we made Beted our number one book because they paid us the most money to market for them." Just tell the truth, you have seen time and time again people laughing at the fact that you guys had beted as your number one book. Tell us a few reasons why they were the number one book. Stop digging yourselves a giant hole and just admit that you duped a lot of people into joining a shitty book because you got PAID to do it.

     

    Trigger

    Bingo - at least you get it.

     
    thanatos
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 5:07 PM ET #46

    My 2 cents:

    I have to agree that Covers is responsible for directing people to BetEd and getting paid for doing it but I don't think anyone can hold them responsible for what happened here.

    In the end, it was BetEd's fault for using and/or over depending on a U.S. based processing company.

    Here is the part that is most peculiar though:  How does the US government freeze accounts at banks that are located in all those different countries BetEd supposed had clients money in?  How does the US government tell a bank in Costa Rica they are going to seize those accounts unless there is some kind of banking agreement between the countries?

    PS.  I had an account at BetEd but the balance was pretty small (less than $100) but it was at $3K last year at one time.
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    My 2 cents:

    I have to agree that Covers is responsible for directing people to BetEd and getting paid for doing it but I don't think anyone can hold them responsible for what happened here.

    In the end, it was BetEd's fault for using and/or over depending on a U.S. based processing company.

    Here is the part that is most peculiar though:  How does the US government freeze accounts at banks that are located in all those different countries BetEd supposed had clients money in?  How does the US government tell a bank in Costa Rica they are going to seize those accounts unless there is some kind of banking agreement between the countries?

    PS.  I had an account at BetEd but the balance was pretty small (less than $100) but it was at $3K last year at one time.
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 5:25 PM ET #47

    I love how freedom basically told LRM to quit speaking for covers because he's a fucking idiot! hahahahahahah priceless
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    I love how freedom basically told LRM to quit speaking for covers because he's a fucking idiot! hahahahahahah priceless
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 5:37 PM ET #48

    I think esplanade and all of you other complainers are a joke.  I mean seiously, im a small time bettor and I had maney in beted also.  Covers is not the blame, its our own damn fault for making a poor decision on a small time sportsbook.  You all need to get off your fucking soap box and take your losses like men!  I think you're all nothing but a bunch of pathetic whiny ass crybabies. If you dont like covers, get the fuck off the site and go find your sports info somewhere else jackasses!!!
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    I think esplanade and all of you other complainers are a joke.  I mean seiously, im a small time bettor and I had maney in beted also.  Covers is not the blame, its our own damn fault for making a poor decision on a small time sportsbook.  You all need to get off your fucking soap box and take your losses like men!  I think you're all nothing but a bunch of pathetic whiny ass crybabies. If you dont like covers, get the fuck off the site and go find your sports info somewhere else jackasses!!!
     
    esplanade
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 6:07 PM ET #49

    That's cool, I think you're a joke too. I'm sure you'll be able to overcome the $5 in "maney" that you had at Beted. Some people had thousands there and even more. Please show me a post where I said Covers has a responsibility to make us whole. I'll predict <crickets>. It's ironic though that you're the pissant whining about other people voicing their legitimate complaints about the relationship between two significant entities in the industry.

    73 posts in 4.5 years
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    That's cool, I think you're a joke too. I'm sure you'll be able to overcome the $5 in "maney" that you had at Beted. Some people had thousands there and even more. Please show me a post where I said Covers has a responsibility to make us whole. I'll predict <crickets>. It's ironic though that you're the pissant whining about other people voicing their legitimate complaints about the relationship between two significant entities in the industry.

    73 posts in 4.5 years
     
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 6:44 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

     Thank you.

      ANOTHER FRIGGIN MORON

    LOTTERY TICKET ,  YOU FRIGGIN ASSHOLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

     Thank you.

      ANOTHER FRIGGIN MORON

    LOTTERY TICKET ,  YOU FRIGGIN ASSHOLE

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