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    LRM704
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 5:51 PM ET #1

    My account was swept up also, but guys please get a grip.

    If you are betting with a local or even a bigger fish and the net swoops in who the hell would you be going to to complain. If I recommended the guy in my cafe than should I be held accountable ?

    My feeling is that Covers has no responsibility to me or any other member to get their money back.

    Just my 2 cents here, but I would strongly advise against any charge backs attempts. It's just not the right thing to do.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    My account was swept up also, but guys please get a grip.

    If you are betting with a local or even a bigger fish and the net swoops in who the hell would you be going to to complain. If I recommended the guy in my cafe than should I be held accountable ?

    My feeling is that Covers has no responsibility to me or any other member to get their money back.

    Just my 2 cents here, but I would strongly advise against any charge backs attempts. It's just not the right thing to do.

     
    LRM704
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 5:52 PM ET #2

    To Lou and the entire Covers team,

    This is not your fault and you shouldn't be held accountable.

    Like I stated before. If I introduce you to my friend Tony, who takes action, and months later he gets busted. Am I now responsible to make sure you get paid ?

    The answer is hell no as this would be between you and the man looking at serious jail time for bookmaking

    GET MY POINT ?

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    To Lou and the entire Covers team,

    This is not your fault and you shouldn't be held accountable.

    Like I stated before. If I introduce you to my friend Tony, who takes action, and months later he gets busted. Am I now responsible to make sure you get paid ?

    The answer is hell no as this would be between you and the man looking at serious jail time for bookmaking

    GET MY POINT ?

     
    esplanade
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 6:17 PM ET #3

    Your point is WEAK. Even in your poor example, yes, a good friend would be more concerned about making sure his friend was made whole than collecting his own balance. Perhaps you have a dearth of quality friends.

    But a more accurate example would be a situation where you were getting a kickback from Tony based on an ongoing and current relationship where you had a vested interest in my losing money to Tony, in which you should have known he was having problems that you failed to disclose due to your own self interest.

    All the while acting as though you were some protector of my best interest.

    Sounds just a bit more culpable, no??

     

     

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    Your point is WEAK. Even in your poor example, yes, a good friend would be more concerned about making sure his friend was made whole than collecting his own balance. Perhaps you have a dearth of quality friends.

    But a more accurate example would be a situation where you were getting a kickback from Tony based on an ongoing and current relationship where you had a vested interest in my losing money to Tony, in which you should have known he was having problems that you failed to disclose due to your own self interest.

    All the while acting as though you were some protector of my best interest.

    Sounds just a bit more culpable, no??

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 6:27 PM ET #4

    To me the right example would go something like this:

    A guy runs a book and he tells me, I'll give you a finders fee to get clients. I know the guy is well funded and pays. So I find some people and collect a fee.On Super Bowl Sunday, the cops raids the guys office and takes all his cash. Do you think I'm going to pay the friends I hooked up? I don't think so.

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    To me the right example would go something like this:

    A guy runs a book and he tells me, I'll give you a finders fee to get clients. I know the guy is well funded and pays. So I find some people and collect a fee.On Super Bowl Sunday, the cops raids the guys office and takes all his cash. Do you think I'm going to pay the friends I hooked up? I don't think so.

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 6:36 PM ET #5

    LOL no shit they don't have any responsibility of getting anybodies' money back; however it seems a little unethical to me to promote a site as the #1 reliable book for so long only to have this happen.

    Obviously it wasn't the #1 book or this would've been avoided.  Tell me why 5dimes and thegreek are still going strong? Maybe they should've been at the top of the list.

    That's what pisses me off.  And I don't even bet online.
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    LOL no shit they don't have any responsibility of getting anybodies' money back; however it seems a little unethical to me to promote a site as the #1 reliable book for so long only to have this happen.

    Obviously it wasn't the #1 book or this would've been avoided.  Tell me why 5dimes and thegreek are still going strong? Maybe they should've been at the top of the list.

    That's what pisses me off.  And I don't even bet online.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 6:51 PM ET #6

    Shit, what a brown noser post. I bet even covers feels guiltier about it than you do for them. 

    Look, we all know that covers boosts some books ratings in exchange for marketing. It's obvious. I don't think BETED was a total farce or scam, but they weren't airtight in their business dealings either.

    Covers isn't to blame, but yes, as a website that promoted the book and a big player in the industry, covers should feel some pressure, and want to, help out people here. I'm not saying they are to blame.
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    Shit, what a brown noser post. I bet even covers feels guiltier about it than you do for them. 

    Look, we all know that covers boosts some books ratings in exchange for marketing. It's obvious. I don't think BETED was a total farce or scam, but they weren't airtight in their business dealings either.

    Covers isn't to blame, but yes, as a website that promoted the book and a big player in the industry, covers should feel some pressure, and want to, help out people here. I'm not saying they are to blame.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 7:31 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Your point is WEAK. Even in your poor example, yes, a good friend would be more concerned about making sure his friend was made whole than collecting his own balance. Perhaps you have a dearth of quality friends.

    But a more accurate example would be a situation where you were getting a kickback from Tony based on an ongoing and current relationship where you had a vested interest in my losing money to Tony, in which you should have known he was having problems that you failed to disclose due to your own self interest.

    All the while acting as though you were some protector of my best interest.

    Sounds just a bit more culpable, no??

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Your point is WEAK. Even in your poor example, yes, a good friend would be more concerned about making sure his friend was made whole than collecting his own balance. Perhaps you have a dearth of quality friends.

    But a more accurate example would be a situation where you were getting a kickback from Tony based on an ongoing and current relationship where you had a vested interest in my losing money to Tony, in which you should have known he was having problems that you failed to disclose due to your own self interest.

    All the while acting as though you were some protector of my best interest.

    Sounds just a bit more culpable, no??

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 8:35 PM ET #8

    the us gov thinks they are the worlds police. covers should be an advocate. even if you got ripped off by a fly by nigh website. they should at least look into it. Thats what they do. GAMBLING. Covers is acting admirably. give em a break. Covers doesnt have more authority than the shitty us gov.
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    the us gov thinks they are the worlds police. covers should be an advocate. even if you got ripped off by a fly by nigh website. they should at least look into it. Thats what they do. GAMBLING. Covers is acting admirably. give em a break. Covers doesnt have more authority than the shitty us gov.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 8:57 PM ET #9

    I don't know why I would want to defend Covers. They deleted two of my posts here, making query about Bookmakers. I can't even remember much about them they were so mundane. But apparently they were too controversial for this forum....at this this particular point in time.

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    I don't know why I would want to defend Covers. They deleted two of my posts here, making query about Bookmakers. I can't even remember much about them they were so mundane. But apparently they were too controversial for this forum....at this this particular point in time.

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 9:17 PM ET #10

    Covers is going to do their best to make whole those who lost money.
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    Covers is going to do their best to make whole those who lost money.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 9:27 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by ozzwald:

    LOL no shit they don't have any responsibility of getting anybodies' money back; however it seems a little unethical to me to promote a site as the #1 reliable book for so long only to have this happen.

    Obviously it wasn't the #1 book or this would've been avoided.  Tell me why 5dimes and thegreek are still going strong? Maybe they should've been at the top of the list.

    That's what pisses me off.  And I don't even bet online.


    The fact that BetEd was Covers' #1 rated book is an absolute farce. It's laughable; a total joke, as are several of the other books listed in Covers' top 10. Anyone who knows anything about online sports betting knows that there are many books far more reputable than BetEd. And I see that BetUS has claimed the top spot in BetEd's absence. Sad.  Anyone who blindly deposits money into a subpar book based on Covers' recommendations should be embarrassed. There are plenty of unbiased, objective sources of information out there one can use to evaluate sportsbooks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzwald:

    LOL no shit they don't have any responsibility of getting anybodies' money back; however it seems a little unethical to me to promote a site as the #1 reliable book for so long only to have this happen.

    Obviously it wasn't the #1 book or this would've been avoided.  Tell me why 5dimes and thegreek are still going strong? Maybe they should've been at the top of the list.

    That's what pisses me off.  And I don't even bet online.


    The fact that BetEd was Covers' #1 rated book is an absolute farce. It's laughable; a total joke, as are several of the other books listed in Covers' top 10. Anyone who knows anything about online sports betting knows that there are many books far more reputable than BetEd. And I see that BetUS has claimed the top spot in BetEd's absence. Sad.  Anyone who blindly deposits money into a subpar book based on Covers' recommendations should be embarrassed. There are plenty of unbiased, objective sources of information out there one can use to evaluate sportsbooks.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 11:13 PM ET #12

    Here is how I accept this fate.  It's only money

    Imagine the horror the people of the south and the midwest are dealing with. Houses destroyed, life savings gone in a flash and worse of all losing family members before you had a chance to say goodbye.

    Count your blessings and hug your family.

    Once again, it's only money and that can be replaced.

     

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    Here is how I accept this fate.  It's only money

    Imagine the horror the people of the south and the midwest are dealing with. Houses destroyed, life savings gone in a flash and worse of all losing family members before you had a chance to say goodbye.

    Count your blessings and hug your family.

    Once again, it's only money and that can be replaced.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 11:16 PM ET #13

    SnotNose        Read my post directly above and if this doesn't sink into your head then

     

    READ IT AGAIN      IT'S ONLY MONEY 

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    SnotNose        Read my post directly above and if this doesn't sink into your head then

     

    READ IT AGAIN      IT'S ONLY MONEY 

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 11:20 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Your point is WEAK. Even in your poor example, yes, a good friend would be more concerned about making sure his friend was made whole than collecting his own balance. Perhaps you have a dearth of quality friends.

    But a more accurate example would be a situation where you were getting a kickback from Tony based on an ongoing and current relationship where you had a vested interest in my losing money to Tony, in which you should have known he was having problems that you failed to disclose due to your own self interest.

    All the while acting as though you were some protector of my best interest.

    Sounds just a bit more culpable, no??

     

     

    It just doesn't work this way here in Brooklyn.

    Tonys people wouldn't me anywhere near their business. It's their business. You'll get a kick in the balls before you get a kickback.

    Peace out my friend 

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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Your point is WEAK. Even in your poor example, yes, a good friend would be more concerned about making sure his friend was made whole than collecting his own balance. Perhaps you have a dearth of quality friends.

    But a more accurate example would be a situation where you were getting a kickback from Tony based on an ongoing and current relationship where you had a vested interest in my losing money to Tony, in which you should have known he was having problems that you failed to disclose due to your own self interest.

    All the while acting as though you were some protector of my best interest.

    Sounds just a bit more culpable, no??

     

     

    It just doesn't work this way here in Brooklyn.

    Tonys people wouldn't me anywhere near their business. It's their business. You'll get a kick in the balls before you get a kickback.

    Peace out my friend 

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 11:52 PM ET #15

    My main concern is if more books are going to do this. 
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    My main concern is if more books are going to do this. 
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 11:53 PM ET #16

    Elevated from weak to worthless and weak.

    Of course, it's not life and death, unless you needed that money to eat. Or to pay for a surgery or to pay for your wedding BUT in that case why go to work? I mean all they are doing is paying you with money. I don't think Beted has the ability to give you cancer or sleep with your wife, so within the realm of what they could do, stealing our money is as bad as it gets.

    But hey, you seem to thrive in the bent over and spread position.

    The only thing you said that I agree with is that Tony's people wouldn't let you near their business. Who could blame them?

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    Elevated from weak to worthless and weak.

    Of course, it's not life and death, unless you needed that money to eat. Or to pay for a surgery or to pay for your wedding BUT in that case why go to work? I mean all they are doing is paying you with money. I don't think Beted has the ability to give you cancer or sleep with your wife, so within the realm of what they could do, stealing our money is as bad as it gets.

    But hey, you seem to thrive in the bent over and spread position.

    The only thing you said that I agree with is that Tony's people wouldn't let you near their business. Who could blame them?

     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 12:06 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    Here is how I accept this fate.  It's only money

    I

    Once again, it's only money and that can be replaced.

     

    Maybe its only money to you, but there are people believe it or not who depend on it to pay expenses and get by to some degree. Ask some of the poker guys over at 2+2 who have been dealing with this shit from black friday for a bit now and see if you get a carefree response about it just being money LOL. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    Here is how I accept this fate.  It's only money

    I

    Once again, it's only money and that can be replaced.

     

    Maybe its only money to you, but there are people believe it or not who depend on it to pay expenses and get by to some degree. Ask some of the poker guys over at 2+2 who have been dealing with this shit from black friday for a bit now and see if you get a carefree response about it just being money LOL. 
     
    Greens_Rams
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 12:13 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    SnotNose        Read my post directly above and if this doesn't sink into your head then

     

    READ IT AGAIN      IT'S ONLY MONEY 


    I'd love to see you take a financial hit and not be able to feed your families and say "it's only money."

    Idiot, try leaving your house for once and see how far you get in life without money.

    I took no hit in all this shit going on but your posts are so stupid, I had to comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    SnotNose        Read my post directly above and if this doesn't sink into your head then

     

    READ IT AGAIN      IT'S ONLY MONEY 


    I'd love to see you take a financial hit and not be able to feed your families and say "it's only money."

    Idiot, try leaving your house for once and see how far you get in life without money.

    I took no hit in all this shit going on but your posts are so stupid, I had to comment.
     
    MisterMoneyline
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 12:34 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    Here is how I accept this fate.  It's only money

    Imagine the horror the people of the south and the midwest are dealing with. Houses destroyed, life savings gone in a flash and worse of all losing family members before you had a chance to say goodbye.

    Count your blessings and hug your family.

    Once again, it's only money and that can be replaced.

     



    For God's sake....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    Here is how I accept this fate.  It's only money

    Imagine the horror the people of the south and the midwest are dealing with. Houses destroyed, life savings gone in a flash and worse of all losing family members before you had a chance to say goodbye.

    Count your blessings and hug your family.

    Once again, it's only money and that can be replaced.

     



    For God's sake....
     
    MisterMoneyline
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 12:36 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Greens_Rams:


    I'd love to see you take a financial hit and not be able to feed your families and say "it's only money."

    Idiot, try leaving your house for once and see how far you get in life without money.

    I took no hit in all this shit going on but your posts are so stupid, I had to comment.



    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Greens_Rams:


    I'd love to see you take a financial hit and not be able to feed your families and say "it's only money."

    Idiot, try leaving your house for once and see how far you get in life without money.

    I took no hit in all this shit going on but your posts are so stupid, I had to comment.



     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 12:48 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Greens_Rams:


    I'd love to see you take a financial hit and not be able to feed your families and say "it's only money."

    Idiot, try leaving your house for once and see how far you get in life without money.

    I took no hit in all this shit going on but your posts are so stupid, I had to comment.

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Greens_Rams:


    I'd love to see you take a financial hit and not be able to feed your families and say "it's only money."

    Idiot, try leaving your house for once and see how far you get in life without money.

    I took no hit in all this shit going on but your posts are so stupid, I had to comment.

     
    richsox24
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 12:49 AM ET #22

    LRM...I had $1530 with beted.....since you say its only money, would you be so kind as to send me JUST HALF of what i had there.  I could really use it to buy groceries and pay next months rent.  I'll be happy to give you my name and city in a pm so you'll know who and where to send a w-u or m-g.  

    Thanks alot for your generous help since its only money. 

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    LRM...I had $1530 with beted.....since you say its only money, would you be so kind as to send me JUST HALF of what i had there.  I could really use it to buy groceries and pay next months rent.  I'll be happy to give you my name and city in a pm so you'll know who and where to send a w-u or m-g.  

    Thanks alot for your generous help since its only money. 

     
    LRM704
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 2:27 AM ET #23

    I don't work for Covers so I can say what the supervision of Covers don't'

    WHAT A CLASSLESS BUNCH OF FUCKIN MORONS.

    I put my life on the line everyday just to put food on our table.

    FRIGGIN IDIOTS

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    I don't work for Covers so I can say what the supervision of Covers don't'

    WHAT A CLASSLESS BUNCH OF FUCKIN MORONS.

    I put my life on the line everyday just to put food on our table.

    FRIGGIN IDIOTS

     
    LRM704
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 2:28 AM ET #24

    Look at all the SAF's

    Screw all of you and the money you hopefully never get back.

    Like I said, I don't have to worry about your feelings.

    Douchebags

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    Look at all the SAF's

    Screw all of you and the money you hopefully never get back.

    Like I said, I don't have to worry about your feelings.

    Douchebags

     
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 2:29 AM ET #25

    Esplanade, you classless asshole, I hope you don't see JACKSHIT
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    Esplanade, you classless asshole, I hope you don't see JACKSHIT
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