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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 9:41 PM ET #326

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Sparky10191] But I'd trade you Bum in that case because I want Latos for next year (the real reason I traded for him) and my stock is higher on Hellboy because he's a rook. [/Quote

    You have no leverage when it comes to trading your rookies. I mean NONE AT ALL. You hold 5 on your team. You are keeping Hosmer. You cant hold o he is a rookie over anyones head because you have no intentions on keeping them making them just another player.

    Keep using that strategy and at the end of the year you will have 5 rookies only being able to keep one and all go to waste instead of trading some of them here and there helping your team NOW and not being stubborn and holding them because they are a rookie.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Sparky10191] But I'd trade you Bum in that case because I want Latos for next year (the real reason I traded for him) and my stock is higher on Hellboy because he's a rook. [/Quote

    You have no leverage when it comes to trading your rookies. I mean NONE AT ALL. You hold 5 on your team. You are keeping Hosmer. You cant hold o he is a rookie over anyones head because you have no intentions on keeping them making them just another player.

    Keep using that strategy and at the end of the year you will have 5 rookies only being able to keep one and all go to waste instead of trading some of them here and there helping your team NOW and not being stubborn and holding them because they are a rookie.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 9:43 PM ET #327

    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    You have no leverage when it comes to trading your rookies. I mean NONE AT ALL. You hold 5 on your team. You are keeping Hosmer. You cant hold o he is a rookie over anyones head because you have no intentions on keeping them making them just another player.

    Keep using that strategy and at the end of the year you will have 5 rookies only being able to keep one and all go to waste instead of trading some of them here and there helping your team NOW and not being stubborn and holding them because they are a rookie.

    I plan on trading them before the deadline. But there is more stock in a guy who someone can have for 4 more years than a guy someone can have for the rest of this year. Especially since Hellboy has been pitching great this season.

    If I don't trade them by the deadline...I'll just hold onto them because they're not hurting my team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    You have no leverage when it comes to trading your rookies. I mean NONE AT ALL. You hold 5 on your team. You are keeping Hosmer. You cant hold o he is a rookie over anyones head because you have no intentions on keeping them making them just another player.

    Keep using that strategy and at the end of the year you will have 5 rookies only being able to keep one and all go to waste instead of trading some of them here and there helping your team NOW and not being stubborn and holding them because they are a rookie.

    I plan on trading them before the deadline. But there is more stock in a guy who someone can have for 4 more years than a guy someone can have for the rest of this year. Especially since Hellboy has been pitching great this season.

    If I don't trade them by the deadline...I'll just hold onto them because they're not hurting my team.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 9:46 PM ET #328

    Arod would cost you a pick + Youkilis. Still willing to talk? Arod is good for 3 years and you wont get a 1st rounder better than him in the draft next year.

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    Arod would cost you a pick + Youkilis. Still willing to talk? Arod is good for 3 years and you wont get a 1st rounder better than him in the draft next year.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 9:46 PM ET #329

    And my other rookies are only eligible this year. And if they are still on my roster at the end of the season...than it's not like someone can just take them from me and give them a contract. The only way to give a guy like Hellickson, Moustakas, Britton or Espinosa is to trade for him. If not...then they'll go into the draft next year for anyone to take...but JUST for next year.
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    And my other rookies are only eligible this year. And if they are still on my roster at the end of the season...than it's not like someone can just take them from me and give them a contract. The only way to give a guy like Hellickson, Moustakas, Britton or Espinosa is to trade for him. If not...then they'll go into the draft next year for anyone to take...but JUST for next year.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 9:47 PM ET #330

    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    Arod would cost you a pick + Youkilis. Still willing to talk? Arod is good for 3 years and you wont get a 1st rounder better than him in the draft next year.

    Hey...all I did was ask.

    No more interest in A-Rod from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    Arod would cost you a pick + Youkilis. Still willing to talk? Arod is good for 3 years and you wont get a 1st rounder better than him in the draft next year.

    Hey...all I did was ask.

    No more interest in A-Rod from me.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 9:50 PM ET #331

    So what were you expecting for me to say for Arod. Brennan Boesh and Coco Crisp? He is a 3 year player and you did not want to give a good player nor a pick?
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    So what were you expecting for me to say for Arod. Brennan Boesh and Coco Crisp? He is a 3 year player and you did not want to give a good player nor a pick?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 9:52 PM ET #332

    I lied. I sent you an offer for A-Rod.

    And I would have given up 2 of the pitchers you asked for. But it's a preference thing.

    But don't hate on Boesch. Dude's ranked 8th over the past month.

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    I lied. I sent you an offer for A-Rod.

    And I would have given up 2 of the pitchers you asked for. But it's a preference thing.

    But don't hate on Boesch. Dude's ranked 8th over the past month.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 9:56 PM ET #333

    Boesh is killing it dont get me wrong but there is nothing that is as good in next years first round.
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    Boesh is killing it dont get me wrong but there is nothing that is as good in next years first round.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 9:57 PM ET #334

    Granderson looks to be the best.

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    Granderson looks to be the best.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:03 PM ET #335

    Hear me out buddy and try to understand where i am coming from. MY offer is Youkilis and a 1st round pick for Arod.

    I can not just trade Arod for a 1st round pick because it would KILL ME this year and i would get nothing from the position.

    I can not trade Arod for Youkilis and a 3rd round pick because not only would i be getting the short end of the stick this year by taking Youkilis over Arod but for the following 2 years you are stiffing me with a 3rd round pick from next year.

    Each guy gets 4 keepers. 12 teams. 48 players. Add in the good rooks from this year and we will sat the total is at 55. Now lets just say you pick in the middle of the 3rd. Thats 30 more players. The total now stands at 85 players.

    When that 3rd round pick comes around there will be around 85 players ALREADY OFF THE BOARD leaving me with a player like Brain McCann, Ben Zobrist, Mark Reynolds, BJ Upton to take Arods place.

    It makes no sense at all...

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    Hear me out buddy and try to understand where i am coming from. MY offer is Youkilis and a 1st round pick for Arod.

    I can not just trade Arod for a 1st round pick because it would KILL ME this year and i would get nothing from the position.

    I can not trade Arod for Youkilis and a 3rd round pick because not only would i be getting the short end of the stick this year by taking Youkilis over Arod but for the following 2 years you are stiffing me with a 3rd round pick from next year.

    Each guy gets 4 keepers. 12 teams. 48 players. Add in the good rooks from this year and we will sat the total is at 55. Now lets just say you pick in the middle of the 3rd. Thats 30 more players. The total now stands at 85 players.

    When that 3rd round pick comes around there will be around 85 players ALREADY OFF THE BOARD leaving me with a player like Brain McCann, Ben Zobrist, Mark Reynolds, BJ Upton to take Arods place.

    It makes no sense at all...

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:09 PM ET #336

    <<<<what I do while I'm thinking

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    <<<<what I do while I'm thinking

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:09 PM ET #337

    Now you said you need another stick. So this is also a possibility.

    Arod and Quentin (franchise tag eligible)

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    Youkilis, 1st rounder and Bumgarner

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    Now you said you need another stick. So this is also a possibility.

    Arod and Quentin (franchise tag eligible)

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    Youkilis, 1st rounder and Bumgarner

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:10 PM ET #338

    All this would be easier if PSM was here.

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    All this would be easier if PSM was here.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:13 PM ET #339

    Well...throw the franchise tag away because Harper is my guy.

    It's appealing, though.

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    Well...throw the franchise tag away because Harper is my guy.

    It's appealing, though.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:14 PM ET #340

    Lets get the A-Rod/Youk trade done with and revist that Bumgarner/Quentin thing down the road. Once I hear from PSM.
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    Lets get the A-Rod/Youk trade done with and revist that Bumgarner/Quentin thing down the road. Once I hear from PSM.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:15 PM ET #341

    Eh i am looking at potential 1st rounders for next year and its not pretty to replace arod. Unless you have a top top top pick next year 1st round is not even that great.

    Granderson, Ellsbury, Asdrubal, Pence, Chris Young, Michael Bourn, Ryan Howard... GROSS

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    Eh i am looking at potential 1st rounders for next year and its not pretty to replace arod. Unless you have a top top top pick next year 1st round is not even that great.

    Granderson, Ellsbury, Asdrubal, Pence, Chris Young, Michael Bourn, Ryan Howard... GROSS

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:16 PM ET #342

    Michael Bourn is a solid choice. He's the greatest player in baseball.
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    Michael Bourn is a solid choice. He's the greatest player in baseball.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:17 PM ET #343

    Happy you did not send me that offer in the 1st place because i was so ready to do it until i did the research.
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    Happy you did not send me that offer in the 1st place because i was so ready to do it until i did the research.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:18 PM ET #344

    If Arod was in the draft next year there is a real good chance he would go #1
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    If Arod was in the draft next year there is a real good chance he would go #1
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:19 PM ET #345

    Oh...so we're back to a no-go? Geeeee
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    Oh...so we're back to a no-go? Geeeee
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:19 PM ET #346

    A-Rod is also going to be 37 years old. And 38 when the 3-year contract is up.
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    A-Rod is also going to be 37 years old. And 38 when the 3-year contract is up.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:23 PM ET #347

    It just does not make sense for me to get the short end this year to take youkilis over arod and then replace him with Micheal Bourne
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    It just does not make sense for me to get the short end this year to take youkilis over arod and then replace him with Micheal Bourne
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:24 PM ET #348

    Dont be waiting on PennSt. I dont think he has ever made a trade so you will be rejected. Unless he is offered a bullshit trade like Billinglsy and Pedroia for Beckett.
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    Dont be waiting on PennSt. I dont think he has ever made a trade so you will be rejected. Unless he is offered a bullshit trade like Billinglsy and Pedroia for Beckett.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:24 PM ET #349

    Hey. You are the one who presented the offer.
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    Hey. You are the one who presented the offer.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2011 - 10:25 PM ET #350

    I know i am not saying anything about you. I am saying i am a moron for not looking into it before opening my dumbass mouth.
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    I know i am not saying anything about you. I am saying i am a moron for not looking into it before opening my dumbass mouth.
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