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    California at Texas (12/28/2011)

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2011 - 1:40 PM ET #1

    Away:  California [7-5 ATS]
    Home:  Texas [6-6 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:00 PM
    Stadium: Qualcomm Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    California:
    Passing: Zach Maynard (2802)
    Rushing: Isi Sofele (1261)
    Receiving: Keenan Allen (1254)

    Texas:
    Passing: Case McCoy (1045)
    Rushing: Malcolm Brown (707)
    Receiving: Mike Davis (609)

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    Away:  California [7-5 ATS]
    Home:  Texas [6-6 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:00 PM
    Stadium: Qualcomm Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    California:
    Passing: Zach Maynard (2802)
    Rushing: Isi Sofele (1261)
    Receiving: Keenan Allen (1254)

    Texas:
    Passing: Case McCoy (1045)
    Rushing: Malcolm Brown (707)
    Receiving: Mike Davis (609)

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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2011 - 8:54 PM ET #2

    Longhorn QBs are dreadful....pathetic....inept....and not the sharpest tools in the shed......

    Cal by 14....

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    Longhorn QBs are dreadful....pathetic....inept....and not the sharpest tools in the shed......

    Cal by 14....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2011 - 1:00 AM ET #3

    with a month to prepare, texas will figure out a way to have those marginal qb's manage the game instead of win it...the texas D will will be stout and in my opinion has the motivation to end the season on a high note.  

    pay attention to the health of williams and bergeron...if they play, texas is going to have a heavy emphasis on the run game with a smashmouth emphasis that Cal will not be ready for...we will pass when we have to and our D matches up well against Cal...

    I normally don't bet on my Longhorns, and at times, they have looked bad on O this year.  but, I think Texas will win and cover...

     

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    with a month to prepare, texas will figure out a way to have those marginal qb's manage the game instead of win it...the texas D will will be stout and in my opinion has the motivation to end the season on a high note.  

    pay attention to the health of williams and bergeron...if they play, texas is going to have a heavy emphasis on the run game with a smashmouth emphasis that Cal will not be ready for...we will pass when we have to and our D matches up well against Cal...

    I normally don't bet on my Longhorns, and at times, they have looked bad on O this year.  but, I think Texas will win and cover...

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2011 - 1:01 AM ET #4

    that's brown and bergeron...
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    that's brown and bergeron...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 3:18 PM ET #5

    TEXAS ML
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 12:18 PM ET #6

    As LH said above, Texas style of play matches up pretty well here.  The QB's will have a specific gameplan design to stress both of their strengths to the fullest and minimize the flaws.  Cal is it what it is.  What you've seen is what you get.  Texas with Harsin at OC and a month to prepare will be big for the young QB's.  But most importantly, Texas was not the Texas we will see in this game that it was in it's last several games...

    Bergeron and Brown healthy together is HUGE.  You can add at least 2 more wins to that total if both were not banged up in the Mizzou and KSU losses.  Both were near wins and the Horns and their tailored-to-run offense was running with 5th string RB.   Top three out and another transferred during year.  And trust me, the dropoff from B&B to Traylon Shead is a quantum leap in the wrong direction.  

    Cal may keep it close due to Case and Ash being controlled and held within reason on the chances they will take, yet the power backs and superior defense will be enough to get the win.  Texas may even surprise here with a bigger win than expected.  The motivation is there to play balls out.  Don't underestimate how important it is to this coaching staff to end this year with a win.  Another loss and the turn-around looks very minimal.  A win and the Longhorn nation will feel we are headed back in the right direction, and that's paramount in Longhorn Land.   
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    As LH said above, Texas style of play matches up pretty well here.  The QB's will have a specific gameplan design to stress both of their strengths to the fullest and minimize the flaws.  Cal is it what it is.  What you've seen is what you get.  Texas with Harsin at OC and a month to prepare will be big for the young QB's.  But most importantly, Texas was not the Texas we will see in this game that it was in it's last several games...

    Bergeron and Brown healthy together is HUGE.  You can add at least 2 more wins to that total if both were not banged up in the Mizzou and KSU losses.  Both were near wins and the Horns and their tailored-to-run offense was running with 5th string RB.   Top three out and another transferred during year.  And trust me, the dropoff from B&B to Traylon Shead is a quantum leap in the wrong direction.  

    Cal may keep it close due to Case and Ash being controlled and held within reason on the chances they will take, yet the power backs and superior defense will be enough to get the win.  Texas may even surprise here with a bigger win than expected.  The motivation is there to play balls out.  Don't underestimate how important it is to this coaching staff to end this year with a win.  Another loss and the turn-around looks very minimal.  A win and the Longhorn nation will feel we are headed back in the right direction, and that's paramount in Longhorn Land.   
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 2:34 PM ET #7

    Texas hasn't been very good all year but even their offense will have success against a PAC 12 team and the Longhorn defense will keep this game in control.  Should be an entertaining game to watch although both of these teams were middle of the pack in their own conferences.  Texas to win simply because they need it more.
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    Texas hasn't been very good all year but even their offense will have success against a PAC 12 team and the Longhorn defense will keep this game in control.  Should be an entertaining game to watch although both of these teams were middle of the pack in their own conferences.  Texas to win simply because they need it more.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 6:28 PM ET #8

    Maynard has progressed nicely this season.  Looked great against a pretty good Standford team in a 31-28 loss. 

    Cal's front seven formidable for a questionable Texas offense.

    Cal +3

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    Maynard has progressed nicely this season.  Looked great against a pretty good Standford team in a 31-28 loss. 

    Cal's front seven formidable for a questionable Texas offense.

    Cal +3

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 9:01 PM ET #9

    Texas &overgl all 
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2011 - 8:00 AM ET #10

    Texas ML
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2011 - 1:43 PM ET #11

    thanks longhorn
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    thanks longhorn
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2011 - 9:48 PM ET #12

    Texas is my team....  I do not normally bet for or against them...  I'm not betting on this one... I would probably take Texas with their defense and run game.  Good luck everyone with whatever way you go. 

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    Texas is my team....  I do not normally bet for or against them...  I'm not betting on this one... I would probably take Texas with their defense and run game.  Good luck everyone with whatever way you go. 

      SHARP   

    Go Longhorns!!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2011 - 11:56 PM ET #13

    Texas and the points all day.  Cal does not stand a chance w/ Brown & Bergeron healthy.  Cal may keep it close early but NO ONE in their secondary will want to put a helmet on these young stallions by the 4th quarter (see Brown driving 3 UCLA players into the endzone & Texas Tech's safety diving blindly at Bergeron's feet to avoid getting trucked all 2nd half).  Our O-Line should do enough to get some favorable matchups in the secondary.  Look for Walters, Snow, and Cochran to have good performances.  Additionally, Harsin with a month to prepare should give Cal fits.  

    Defensively, Texas should be a nightmare for Cal.  Diaz will scheme and have a great game plan to neutralize the Cal run game and passing.  Our front 4 will play better than they have lately and we run scary deep up front.  Our linebackers will also be ready to show these Cal teddy Bears the pain.  Jeffcoat is the healthiest he's been and w/ better technique; Hicks is healthy and comfortable in the scheme; DeMarco Cobbs should see a fair amount of playing time; and look for true freshman Desmond Jackson to beast when given the chance.  No need to expound on the usual players that have proven their worth so I'll just mention their names: Randall, Okafor, Acho, Robinson.  That's not to mention our secondary: look for some shut-down D from Diggs & Byndom w/ Phillips in the nickel.  

    I don't think it will come down to STs but if it does, I like our chances w/ Justin Tucker going for the FG.  Also don't be surprised to see Mykkele Thompson, Josh Turner, Sheroid Evans and/or the other young guns block a punt or FG. 

    Texas all day!!!!!  Cal doesn't even like athletics.  

      
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    Texas and the points all day.  Cal does not stand a chance w/ Brown & Bergeron healthy.  Cal may keep it close early but NO ONE in their secondary will want to put a helmet on these young stallions by the 4th quarter (see Brown driving 3 UCLA players into the endzone & Texas Tech's safety diving blindly at Bergeron's feet to avoid getting trucked all 2nd half).  Our O-Line should do enough to get some favorable matchups in the secondary.  Look for Walters, Snow, and Cochran to have good performances.  Additionally, Harsin with a month to prepare should give Cal fits.  

    Defensively, Texas should be a nightmare for Cal.  Diaz will scheme and have a great game plan to neutralize the Cal run game and passing.  Our front 4 will play better than they have lately and we run scary deep up front.  Our linebackers will also be ready to show these Cal teddy Bears the pain.  Jeffcoat is the healthiest he's been and w/ better technique; Hicks is healthy and comfortable in the scheme; DeMarco Cobbs should see a fair amount of playing time; and look for true freshman Desmond Jackson to beast when given the chance.  No need to expound on the usual players that have proven their worth so I'll just mention their names: Randall, Okafor, Acho, Robinson.  That's not to mention our secondary: look for some shut-down D from Diggs & Byndom w/ Phillips in the nickel.  

    I don't think it will come down to STs but if it does, I like our chances w/ Justin Tucker going for the FG.  Also don't be surprised to see Mykkele Thompson, Josh Turner, Sheroid Evans and/or the other young guns block a punt or FG. 

    Texas all day!!!!!  Cal doesn't even like athletics.  

      
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 1:22 AM ET #14

    Cal +3.5 Cal ML +145 is teh play! 
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    Cal +3.5 Cal ML +145 is teh play! 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jlavin:

    Cal +3.5 Cal ML +145 is teh play! 

     

    why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jlavin:

    Cal +3.5 Cal ML +145 is teh play! 

     

    why?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 7:26 AM ET #16

    Texas defense wins this game. Longhornes cover.
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    Texas defense wins this game. Longhornes cover.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 9:30 AM ET #17

    Both teams average at best in their conf. They are actually sorta mirror image performance wise this year. Neither has really stood up to the better teams in their conference. Cal maybe a slight edge fighting stan tough...tough call...turd vs turd illl take turd...i mean texas and und for the large!!!!
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    Both teams average at best in their conf. They are actually sorta mirror image performance wise this year. Neither has really stood up to the better teams in their conference. Cal maybe a slight edge fighting stan tough...tough call...turd vs turd illl take turd...i mean texas and und for the large!!!!
     
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    For what its worth, both teams played @ UCLA..  Texas blew them out in the opener 49-20.  Cal lost 14-31.
    Cal did give Luck and Stanford a tough game near the end of the season though...

    Both teams 7-5, but overall I believe Texas had to play a deeper schedule in the Big 12.

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    For what its worth, both teams played @ UCLA..  Texas blew them out in the opener 49-20.  Cal lost 14-31.
    Cal did give Luck and Stanford a tough game near the end of the season though...

    Both teams 7-5, but overall I believe Texas had to play a deeper schedule in the Big 12.

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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 10:50 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by josbran:

    Texas defense wins this game. Longhornes cover.

    I completely agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by josbran:

    Texas defense wins this game. Longhornes cover.

    I completely agree
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 11:21 AM ET #20

    cal with the points they are coming in hot and texas sucks no play makers on the field and cal will score on texas watch and C
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    cal with the points they are coming in hot and texas sucks no play makers on the field and cal will score on texas watch and C
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 11:29 AM ET #21

    I have Cal teased up +11
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    I have Cal teased up +11
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 11:33 AM ET #22

    I like Texas -3.5.. Also doing three team parlay Texas -3.5, Air Force +3 and Air Force over 70.5...
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    I like Texas -3.5.. Also doing three team parlay Texas -3.5, Air Force +3 and Air Force over 70.5...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 1:46 PM ET #23

    Most important thing to remember is when analyzing Texas this year, you might want to discard the lack of offensive potency the last 4 games.  Texas is a power running football team, and the last 4 games they had no one to fulfill this role...2 RBs out and other limping around.  With any sort of running help they would have beat both Mizzou and KSU.  Almost did it with 5th team RB.  Of the games Brown finished the year with, you could tell he was at best 60% with little power after contact.  And Bergeron never came back.

    What you will see tonight is Brown around 90% and Bergeron around 75%.  That's enough to crank back up this power run machine.  MOST IMPORTANT...the QB's have sucked because the running game died when the top 3 guys went down.  Nobody had to load up to stop us anymore.  So the play-action was ineffective and we certainly weren't allowed past the secondary as they didn't fear the run...meaning extra safety help in pass game.  With Brown and Bergeron back, all that changes.  You will see a much more effective passing game, guaranteed.  When you have to respect the run, the pass opens up more with the right play calls.  Texas will impress tonight.  However, anything more than giving 3 points is a risk, IMO.  Backdoor points, etc could kill the spread win.
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    Most important thing to remember is when analyzing Texas this year, you might want to discard the lack of offensive potency the last 4 games.  Texas is a power running football team, and the last 4 games they had no one to fulfill this role...2 RBs out and other limping around.  With any sort of running help they would have beat both Mizzou and KSU.  Almost did it with 5th team RB.  Of the games Brown finished the year with, you could tell he was at best 60% with little power after contact.  And Bergeron never came back.

    What you will see tonight is Brown around 90% and Bergeron around 75%.  That's enough to crank back up this power run machine.  MOST IMPORTANT...the QB's have sucked because the running game died when the top 3 guys went down.  Nobody had to load up to stop us anymore.  So the play-action was ineffective and we certainly weren't allowed past the secondary as they didn't fear the run...meaning extra safety help in pass game.  With Brown and Bergeron back, all that changes.  You will see a much more effective passing game, guaranteed.  When you have to respect the run, the pass opens up more with the right play calls.  Texas will impress tonight.  However, anything more than giving 3 points is a risk, IMO.  Backdoor points, etc could kill the spread win.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by echelon1:

    Most important thing to remember is when analyzing Texas this year, you might want to discard the lack of offensive potency the last 4 games.  Texas is a power running football team, and the last 4 games they had no one to fulfill this role...2 RBs out and other limping around.  With any sort of running help they would have beat both Mizzou and KSU.  Almost did it with 5th team RB.  Of the games Brown finished the year with, you could tell he was at best 60% with little power after contact.  And Bergeron never came back.

    What you will see tonight is Brown around 90% and Bergeron around 75%.  That's enough to crank back up this power run machine.  MOST IMPORTANT...the QB's have sucked because the running game died when the top 3 guys went down.  Nobody had to load up to stop us anymore.  So the play-action was ineffective and we certainly weren't allowed past the secondary as they didn't fear the run...meaning extra safety help in pass game.  With Brown and Bergeron back, all that changes.  You will see a much more effective passing game, guaranteed.  When you have to respect the run, the pass opens up more with the right play calls.  Texas will impress tonight.  However, anything more than giving 3 points is a risk, IMO.  Backdoor points, etc could kill the spread win.

    Sounds just like the problem my Detroit Lions had until they got Kevin Smith back in the fold.  You have to have a running game to open up the passing game.  Texas -3.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by echelon1:

    Most important thing to remember is when analyzing Texas this year, you might want to discard the lack of offensive potency the last 4 games.  Texas is a power running football team, and the last 4 games they had no one to fulfill this role...2 RBs out and other limping around.  With any sort of running help they would have beat both Mizzou and KSU.  Almost did it with 5th team RB.  Of the games Brown finished the year with, you could tell he was at best 60% with little power after contact.  And Bergeron never came back.

    What you will see tonight is Brown around 90% and Bergeron around 75%.  That's enough to crank back up this power run machine.  MOST IMPORTANT...the QB's have sucked because the running game died when the top 3 guys went down.  Nobody had to load up to stop us anymore.  So the play-action was ineffective and we certainly weren't allowed past the secondary as they didn't fear the run...meaning extra safety help in pass game.  With Brown and Bergeron back, all that changes.  You will see a much more effective passing game, guaranteed.  When you have to respect the run, the pass opens up more with the right play calls.  Texas will impress tonight.  However, anything more than giving 3 points is a risk, IMO.  Backdoor points, etc could kill the spread win.

    Sounds just like the problem my Detroit Lions had until they got Kevin Smith back in the fold.  You have to have a running game to open up the passing game.  Texas -3.5.

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 4:48 PM ET #25

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