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nostradamus12

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Posted: May. 16, 2010 - 7:27 AM ET #101

Quote Originally Posted by Corley1011:

nostra - Losing Anthony Dixon is a big loss for the Bulldogs. but they have 5 or 6 backs that will see the field this year... very deep at RB... plus the addition of Vick Ballard (JC) will help the young RB's... Relf has improved drastically at QB and will get the majority of the playing time at first until Russell gets his rhythm together

Dixon was a beast for sure, Ballard looks like he has some speed. Probably Miss St will be around 16-20 with Memphis low power ranking after last year 2-9 ATS. Will be interesting with new coach and to see who wins QB battle for Tigers - Bass, Smith (Miami transfer, son of FedEx founder), or maybe true frosh Williams who looked good in spring.

Corley1011

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Posted: May. 16, 2010 - 1:18 PM ET #102

I see the MSU/Memphis game being around 38-14 in favor of MSU... from what I saw out of Memphis last year...

What does everyone think about the LSU/UNC game?

Dr_Death

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Posted: May. 16, 2010 - 6:44 PM ET #103

I like Navy and Washington State just looking over the games quickly. I think Washington State may be a nice moneymaker getting a lot of points this year.

bookieassassin

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Posted: May. 16, 2010 - 10:48 PM ET #104

I think Washington State may be a nice moneymaker getting a lot of points this year.

and.......you might be homeless before the season ends....lol.......and....I might be right there with you too

* true.....a lotta injuries...BUT.....wow they were unbelievably bad.....check out these #'s

Offense
     #119 at 4.1/play...only NMexSt worse
     #120 at 113 TFL allowed .......WOW
     # 119 at 53 sacks allowed.....(but only 372 attempts.....#120 Mia,O had 534 attempts)
     #120 in TOP....not helping defense AT ALL...
     # 118 in rush O.....2.5/rush
     #108 in pass O.......5.7/att (PR #114)
     # 120 in 3rd down conversions...23.8%..5 points below Army........holy shit !
     #102 in Turnovers.....for good measure....75th or so in penalties.....< hey not too bad..............

Defense
     #120 at 7.1/play !
     #117 rush D at 5.9/rush
     #114 pass D (yds/att)....PR #112
   #106 in TFL......#115 in sacks

might check stats after Okie St pounds the dogshit out of em for signs of life....(T-Boone will have Gundy killed if they don't destroy Wazzu)......then (maybe) feel good home win over Montana st....do catch SMU in nice lookahead spot....(TCU next)......ponies off tough game with TTech ....and probably nice home win over UAB.....but.... then USC.....@ UCLA....ducks.....zona.....@ stan...@ ariz st.....cal.....@ oreg st......wash

      * i think Mrs Wulff can go ahead and start packing

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DoubleUp4Life

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Posted: May. 17, 2010 - 9:02 AM ET #105

Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Death:

I like Navy and Washington State just looking over the games quickly. I think Washington State may be a nice moneymaker getting a lot of points this year.

Love the Avatar........

Wonder how Many current NFL WR's would Lose sleep /and Stats if Jack Tatum was in the League

Washington St. better be Getting the Farm +++ATS

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DoubleUp4Life

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Posted: May. 17, 2010 - 9:23 AM ET #106

Quote Originally Posted by Corley1011:

I see the MSU/Memphis game being around 38-14 in favor of MSU... from what I saw out of Memphis last year...

What does everyone think about the LSU/UNC game?

Not real sure about the ATS outcome or Final score in this one ....

Right now my Numbers have

Memphis Wins outright 13.5%

MSU by 1-6.5 16%

7-13 20.5%

13.5-19.5 24.5%

20-27.5 18.5%

28+ 7%

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nostradamus12

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Posted: May. 17, 2010 - 4:25 PM ET #107

keeping an eye on JC transfer DL Rankin for Wash St, 26 sacks and had some interest from USC, Oreg St and LSU and received scholarship offer from Alabama and went with WSU

bookieassassin

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Posted: May. 17, 2010 - 5:07 PM ET #108

Quote Originally Posted by nostradamus12:

keeping an eye on JC transfer DL Rankin for Wash St, 26 sacks and had some interest from USC, Oreg St and LSU and received scholarship offer from Alabama and went with WSU

not accusing anybody of anything.....BUT....what odds would you give me the dude drives a NICE car ?????

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thorpe

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Posted: May. 17, 2010 - 5:47 PM ET #109

Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

not accusing anybody of anything.....BUT....what odds would you give me the dude drives a NICE car ?????

Doubt it. No way Wash St can compete with the big boys in providing money under the table. Wash St probably gauranteed him a starting job, which those other schools couldn't do. Either that, or he really loves farmland.

westcoastTrojan

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Posted: May. 17, 2010 - 8:43 PM ET #110

major red flag to me when a guy turns down Bama, LSU or USC.

dudes not confident in his own self. it would be one thing to turn those schools down for a Cal/UW/ASU, for example, but Wazzu? Very questionable.

thorpe

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Posted: May. 17, 2010 - 9:10 PM ET #111

Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:

major red flag to me when a guy turns down Bama, LSU or USC.

dudes not confident in his own self. it would be one thing to turn those schools down for a Cal/UW/ASU, for example, but Wazzu? Very questionable.

I disagree. Wash St is still in the Pac 10 and he gets to start right away. If he goes to Bama, chances are good he never sees the field. Wash St was there for this kid when no other school would touch him because of his academics. Can't knock him for loyalty.

kaplan

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Posted: May. 17, 2010 - 9:53 PM ET #112

Very good discussion gents. Double-up appears to be a numbers guy. Very cool.

This is what I have for memphis/Miss ST.

Memphis wins outright 9.1%

MSU by 1-7 16.66%

MSU by 8-13 9.1%

MSU by 14-20 16.66%

MSU by 21-28 20.83%

MSU by 29 + 27.5%

Corley1011

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Posted: May. 17, 2010 - 11:55 PM ET #113

Kaplan - I agree... I just don't think Memphis hangs with us... Especially at home... I don't think Memphis will be that competitive without a D

Dr_Death

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Posted: May. 18, 2010 - 12:38 AM ET #114

Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

Love the Avatar........

Wonder how Many current NFL WR's would Lose sleep /and Stats if Jack Tatum was in the League

Washington St. better be Getting the Farm +++ATS

I know. Remember when football had actual contact? Those were the days.

Dr_Death

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Posted: May. 18, 2010 - 12:42 AM ET #115

Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

I think Washington State may be a nice moneymaker getting a lot of points this year.

and.......you might be homeless before the season ends....lol.......and....I might be right there with you too

* true.....a lotta injuries...BUT.....wow they were unbelievably bad.....check out these #'s

Offense
     #119 at 4.1/play...only NMexSt worse
     #120 at 113 TFL allowed .......WOW
     # 119 at 53 sacks allowed.....(but only 372 attempts.....#120 Mia,O had 534 attempts)
     #120 in TOP....not helping defense AT ALL...
     # 118 in rush O.....2.5/rush
     #108 in pass O.......5.7/att (PR #114)
     # 120 in 3rd down conversions...23.8%..5 points below Army........holy shit !
     #102 in Turnovers.....for good measure....75th or so in penalties.....< hey not too bad..............

Defense
     #120 at 7.1/play !
     #117 rush D at 5.9/rush
     #114 pass D (yds/att)....PR #112
   #106 in TFL......#115 in sacks

might check stats after Okie St pounds the dogshit out of em for signs of life....(T-Boone will have Gundy killed if they don't destroy Wazzu)......then (maybe) feel good home win over Montana st....do catch SMU in nice lookahead spot....(TCU next)......ponies off tough game with TTech ....and probably nice home win over UAB.....but.... then USC.....@ UCLA....ducks.....zona.....@ stan...@ ariz st.....cal.....@ oreg st......wash

      * i think Mrs Wulff can go ahead and start packing

I know they suck and agree Wuff is done after this year. I was just saying they may improve to the point where they are losing by 21-24 points per game instead of 40. You are probably right though. Let's see if they can hang with OSU for a quarter and then we may have something. Lose the first game by 50 and a mentally weak team may get even weaker. Thanks for the input.

Dr_Death

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Posted: May. 18, 2010 - 12:45 AM ET #116

Quote Originally Posted by Corley1011:

I see the MSU/Memphis game being around 38-14 in favor of MSU... from what I saw out of Memphis last year...

What does everyone think about the LSU/UNC game?

I like your boys this season. They played tough last year and this is Season 2 under Mullen. I think they are a team on the rise, while LSU is going the other way.

Corley1011

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Posted: May. 18, 2010 - 1:06 PM ET #117

Dr_Death - I think Miles is about to be gone at LSU... I have a lot of friends that go there and they told me Miles is not a popular figure down there

DoubleUp4Life

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Posted: May. 18, 2010 - 6:32 PM ET #118

Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Death:

I know. Remember when football had actual contact? Those were the days.

The NFL is becoming a Joke..... So Many QB's(Brady Etc) are Cry Babies who Fake injuries(almost Like Soccer) when touched...

Pretty soon you will have to let the WR's catch the Ball and take 2+ steps before you can tackle him

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DoubleUp4Life

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Posted: May. 18, 2010 - 6:32 PM ET #119

Quote Originally Posted by kaplan:

Very good discussion gents. Double-up appears to be a numbers guy. Very cool.

This is what I have for memphis/Miss ST.

Memphis wins outright 9.1%

MSU by 1-7 16.66%

MSU by 8-13 9.1%

MSU by 14-20 16.66%

MSU by 21-28 20.83%

MSU by 29 + 27.5%

BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!

DoubleUp4Life

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Posted: May. 18, 2010 - 6:33 PM ET #120

Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

Doubt it. No way Wash St can compete with the big boys in providing money under the table. Wash St probably gauranteed him a starting job, which those other schools couldn't do. Either that, or he really loves farmland.

agree... I would rather start ....than sit my ass on the Bench for 2 Years

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topperchris

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Posted: May. 18, 2010 - 11:52 PM ET #121

How good could LSU be if they had a coach who could manage a game and prepare better...Great to see you again Kaplan...Doubleup and Nosterdomus give great info..Love the early football talk...My Reds are keeping me interested in baseball still!!

DoubleUp4Life

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Posted: May. 19, 2010 - 9:59 AM ET #122

Updated Line Guesses...

Colored/Underlined Schools are Early Leans

Thursday Sept 2nd

Ohio St. 27 Marshall

SC 13 S. Miss

Iowa St 8.5 Northern Illinois

USC 26.5 *Hawaii

PITT +2.5 *Utah

Minnesota 4.5 *MD TN St.

Friday Sept 3rd

Arizona 14 *Toledo

Saturday Sept 4th

Colorado 8.5 Colorado St (Denver)

LSU 6.5 UNC (Atlanta)

Notre Dame 8.5 Purdue

Syracuse 8.5 Akron

Army 3.5 *EMU

Clemson 36 North Texas

Auburn 27.5 Arkansas St

Troy 12.5 Bowling Green

Michigan 7 UConn

Missouri 8.5 Illinois (St. Louis)

UAB 5.5 FAU

Kentucky 1.5 *Louisville

Georgia 32.5 Lou-La

Mississippi St 19.5 Memphis

Florida 43.5 Miami Ohio

Oregon 29.5 New Mexico

Vanderbilt 3.5 Northwestern

Alabama 38.5 SJ St

Kansas St 5.5 UCLA

Washington 1 *BYU

Oklahoma St 21.5 Washington St

Nebraska 38.5 WKU

Michigan St. 19.5 WMU

Wisconsin 22.5 *UNLV

Oklahoma 35.5 Utah St

Cincinnati 3.5 *Fresno St.

Sunday Sept. 5th

ECU 3.5 Tulsa

Texas Tech 16.5 SMU

Monday Sept 6th

Maryland 1.5 Navy (Baltimore)

Virginia Tech 3.5 Boise St.

BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!

Corley1011

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Posted: May. 19, 2010 - 10:24 AM ET #123

Oh wow Miss St/Memphis jumped to 19.5?

jmw59

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Posted: May. 19, 2010 - 10:45 AM ET #124

Nice work per usual D4L

Damn, i'm ready for September!!!

BBallday10

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Posted: May. 19, 2010 - 11:02 AM ET #125

Troy 12.5 Bowling Green

Bowling Green might be auto-fade for the first four or five weeks- similar to Ball St last year- lost 9 year starter Sheehan and do everything WR Barnes.. major rebuilding going on there, esp. with a D that gave up 40+ to Idaho

Schedule sets up nicely for the fade too.. @ Troy, @ Tulsa, Marshall, @ UM.. should start 0-4..

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