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Week 1 Line Guesses---DEGEN Specal
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Below are the Min/Max Spreads I would want in order to place a Wager...
Ohio St.-21 Marshall 29.5+
SC -10 S. Miss +17
Iowa St -4 Northern Illinois +10
Utah +4 Pitt +3.5
Minnesota +7.5 *MD TN St. -3
Friday Sept 3rd
Saturday Sept 4th
Colorado -9.5 Colorado St +17 (Denver)
LSU +3.5 UNC +3.5 (Atlanta)
Notre Dame -4
Syracuse -10 *Akron +25.5
Army -10 *EMU +27
Clemson -28 North Texas +47
Auburn -28 Arkansas St +45
Troy -14 Bowling Green +24.5
Michigan -2 UConn +6
Missouri -9.5 Illinois +14.5 (St. Louis)
UAB -9 FAU +17
Kentucky -5.5 *Louisville +13
Georgia -27 Lou-La +40
Texas -34 Rice +50 (houston(
Florida -37 Miami Ohio +53.5
Oregon 30 New
Vanderbilt +7
Below are the Min/Max Spreads I would want in order to place a Wager...
Ohio St.-21 Marshall 29.5+
SC -10 S. Miss +17
Iowa St -4 Northern Illinois +10
Utah +4 Pitt +3.5
Minnesota +7.5 *MD TN St. -3
Friday Sept 3rd
Saturday Sept 4th
Colorado -9.5 Colorado St +17 (Denver)
LSU +3.5 UNC +3.5 (Atlanta)
Notre Dame -4
Syracuse -10 *Akron +25.5
Army -10 *EMU +27
Clemson -28 North Texas +47
Auburn -28 Arkansas St +45
Troy -14 Bowling Green +24.5
Michigan -2 UConn +6
Missouri -9.5 Illinois +14.5 (St. Louis)
UAB -9 FAU +17
Kentucky -5.5 *Louisville +13
Georgia -27 Lou-La +40
Texas -34 Rice +50 (houston(
Florida -37 Miami Ohio +53.5
Oregon 30 New
Vanderbilt +7
Continued
Alabama -34.5 SJ St +45.5
Kansas St +3.5 UCLA ++4.5
Washington +3.5 *BYU +4.5
Oklahoma St -13 Washington St +24.5
Nebraska 28 WKU +45
Michigan St. 19.5 WMU +28
Wisconsin 17 *UNLV +27
Oklahoma 34 Utah St +51
Cincinnati ML +120 *Fresno St. Ml+125
TCU 7 Oregon St 13+
Sunday Sept. 5th
ECU +6 Tulsa Pick
Texas Tech -13 SMU 17.5+
Monday Sept 6th
Navy -4 Maryland +8.5 (Baltimore)
Virginia Tech +4.5 Boise St. ML+100
Continued
Alabama -34.5 SJ St +45.5
Kansas St +3.5 UCLA ++4.5
Washington +3.5 *BYU +4.5
Oklahoma St -13 Washington St +24.5
Nebraska 28 WKU +45
Michigan St. 19.5 WMU +28
Wisconsin 17 *UNLV +27
Oklahoma 34 Utah St +51
Cincinnati ML +120 *Fresno St. Ml+125
TCU 7 Oregon St 13+
Sunday Sept. 5th
ECU +6 Tulsa Pick
Texas Tech -13 SMU 17.5+
Monday Sept 6th
Navy -4 Maryland +8.5 (Baltimore)
Virginia Tech +4.5 Boise St. ML+100
You should be able to get that number or better with...
*MD TN St. -3
Troy -14
Washington +3.5
Tulsa Pick
Navy -4
If I could take these now ![]()
Troy -14 or less would be worth $200-250
MD Tennessee St at anything less than a FG is worth a $150 PLay
Tulsa would be a worth 30-50
Washington ML at +130 or more would be worth 50-75
Maryland is moving up in my rankings and might be forced to sit this one out
You should be able to get that number or better with...
*MD TN St. -3
Troy -14
Washington +3.5
Tulsa Pick
Navy -4
If I could take these now ![]()
Troy -14 or less would be worth $200-250
MD Tennessee St at anything less than a FG is worth a $150 PLay
Tulsa would be a worth 30-50
Washington ML at +130 or more would be worth 50-75
Maryland is moving up in my rankings and might be forced to sit this one out
Here is my early Top 5
Oklahoma 34.5 Utah St
Nebraska 36.5 WKU
Returning skill position players on Offense including QB, Crick on D. Yes, Suh is a loss, but Nebraska got a taste of winning. Pelini seems like the type of guy who will put a half a hundred on a team if he can. I doubt WKU, arguably the worst D1 team even scores against the Cornhuskers. And talking about a chip on their shoulders, Nebraska will leave no doubt that they are back to near elite status in college football.
Auburn 28 Arkansas St
This game scares me a bit. Ark St beat a marginal Texas A&M team and almost beat Texas. If Auburn plays at its talent level and focuses on dominating this game, it should not be close.
Troy 14 Bowling Green
I need to confirm for myself how much talent BGSU has lost. I need to research this game some more.
Michigan St. 21 WMU
I need to research this game some more. Some say this may be Cubits best team. I know the horrid days of betting with Mich St with John L Smith are over, but I want to see if the Mich St D has improved enough to hold a marginal Tri-Direction Michigan barely D1 Team at bay.
47 more days till kickoff...
Like them all .... Not sure the Lines will be as generous as you think .....
Only one starting to scare me is Michigan St ..... Backdoor could be there .... although I do Like Fading the MAC on this spot
BOL
Brother Hope you have a Monster Season ![]()
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Here is my early Top 5
Oklahoma 34.5 Utah St
Nebraska 36.5 WKU
Returning skill position players on Offense including QB, Crick on D. Yes, Suh is a loss, but Nebraska got a taste of winning. Pelini seems like the type of guy who will put a half a hundred on a team if he can. I doubt WKU, arguably the worst D1 team even scores against the Cornhuskers. And talking about a chip on their shoulders, Nebraska will leave no doubt that they are back to near elite status in college football.
Auburn 28 Arkansas St
This game scares me a bit. Ark St beat a marginal Texas A&M team and almost beat Texas. If Auburn plays at its talent level and focuses on dominating this game, it should not be close.
Troy 14 Bowling Green
I need to confirm for myself how much talent BGSU has lost. I need to research this game some more.
Michigan St. 21 WMU
I need to research this game some more. Some say this may be Cubits best team. I know the horrid days of betting with Mich St with John L Smith are over, but I want to see if the Mich St D has improved enough to hold a marginal Tri-Direction Michigan barely D1 Team at bay.
47 more days till kickoff...
Like them all .... Not sure the Lines will be as generous as you think .....
Only one starting to scare me is Michigan St ..... Backdoor could be there .... although I do Like Fading the MAC on this spot
BOL
Brother Hope you have a Monster Season ![]()
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Tulsa loses co-offensive coordinator and offensive line coach 44 days before the opener @ ECU.
Tulsa loses co-offensive coordinator and offensive line coach 44 days before the opener @ ECU.
he's probably just pissed off that Morris was named co-OC and would be doing the play calling and passing game (Hand to do the running game)...if Hand was so good as OC last year they wouldn't need to have brought Morris in this year
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he's probably just pissed off that Morris was named co-OC and would be doing the play calling and passing game (Hand to do the running game)...if Hand was so good as OC last year they wouldn't need to have brought Morris in this year
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My 5 Top Leans
for week 1 Wagering
Army anything under -7..... Might be my Largest wager for week 1.....A Must win for the Black Knights Bowl Hopes...
Syracuse upto -9.5... Akron should be bottom 7 this year... Not sure they can stay within 2 TD's... The Zips are going through Major Changes with their 1st year HC
Auburn -upto 27.5... This game should get real ugly...
Middle Tennessee St. Hopefully not laying more than a FG ...better if the Dog.... Much bigger game for the Blue Raiders...
Troy upto -14.... Payback for last year... The Trojans went up 14-0 and could have been looking ahead to Florida on deck ... BG scored 31 Straight Points(costing me a Large Opening night Wager)
My 5 Top Leans
for week 1 Wagering
Army anything under -7..... Might be my Largest wager for week 1.....A Must win for the Black Knights Bowl Hopes...
Syracuse upto -9.5... Akron should be bottom 7 this year... Not sure they can stay within 2 TD's... The Zips are going through Major Changes with their 1st year HC
Auburn -upto 27.5... This game should get real ugly...
Middle Tennessee St. Hopefully not laying more than a FG ...better if the Dog.... Much bigger game for the Blue Raiders...
Troy upto -14.... Payback for last year... The Trojans went up 14-0 and could have been looking ahead to Florida on deck ... BG scored 31 Straight Points(costing me a Large Opening night Wager)
gotta be one of their problems last year....no one really in charge
DEFENSE....is different somewhat....on offense you can't have all this arguing / indecision on what to run...you lose focus ....direction.....continuity.....(last year play calling duties bounced around supposedly)
gotta be one of their problems last year....no one really in charge
DEFENSE....is different somewhat....on offense you can't have all this arguing / indecision on what to run...you lose focus ....direction.....continuity.....(last year play calling duties bounced around supposedly)
Hand should send 'co-OC' Malzahn part of his check for fooling people into thinking he could takeover the Tulsa offense...2008 46ppg to 27ppg in 2009![]()
Hand should send 'co-OC' Malzahn part of his check for fooling people into thinking he could takeover the Tulsa offense...2008 46ppg to 27ppg in 2009![]()
I've never been afraid of big spreads, especially during the first couple weeks where it's best to do so. Three that definitely stick out are Oklahoma/Nebraska and Mich St.
Oklahoma and Nebraska both will be 30-35 (possibly 40?), and even MSU under 24 would be nice. Both Okla/Neb have NC hopes on the line and will impress out the gate. MSU isn't even considered in the B10 convo (OSU/Iowa/Wisky), pounding Hiller-less WMU will be a good start to the season.
Also, DBL, didn't Levi Brown graduate? I know BG lost key players in Sheehan and Barnes, but after last year's debacle, you're still thinking big with Troy even up to -14?? After rejoicing from 14-0 to 31 disappointing unanswered points, it's gonna be tough to pull the trigger on the them again.
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I've never been afraid of big spreads, especially during the first couple weeks where it's best to do so. Three that definitely stick out are Oklahoma/Nebraska and Mich St.
Oklahoma and Nebraska both will be 30-35 (possibly 40?), and even MSU under 24 would be nice. Both Okla/Neb have NC hopes on the line and will impress out the gate. MSU isn't even considered in the B10 convo (OSU/Iowa/Wisky), pounding Hiller-less WMU will be a good start to the season.
Also, DBL, didn't Levi Brown graduate? I know BG lost key players in Sheehan and Barnes, but after last year's debacle, you're still thinking big with Troy even up to -14?? After rejoicing from 14-0 to 31 disappointing unanswered points, it's gonna be tough to pull the trigger on the them again.
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I've never been afraid of big spreads, especially during the first couple weeks where it's best to do so. Three that definitely stick out are Oklahoma/Nebraska and Mich St.
Oklahoma and Nebraska both will be 30-35 (possibly 40?), and even MSU under 24 would be nice. Both Okla/Neb have NC hopes on the line and will impress out the gate. MSU isn't even considered in the B10 convo (OSU/Iowa/Wisky), pounding Hiller-less WMU will be a good start to the season.
Also, DBL, didn't Levi Brown graduate? I know BG lost key players in Sheehan and Barnes, but after last year's debacle, you're still thinking big with Troy even up to -14?? After rejoicing from 14-0 to 31 disappointing unanswered points, it's gonna be tough to pull the trigger on the them again.
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OU,and MSU make plenty of sense .... Nebraska scares me some this year but they are playing WKU.... I hope
all 3 hit for you ..... right now OU will be a 100-150 play if under 35, while Michigan St will be s small play (20-99) if less than 21....
I've never been afraid of big spreads, especially during the first couple weeks where it's best to do so. Three that definitely stick out are Oklahoma/Nebraska and Mich St.
Oklahoma and Nebraska both will be 30-35 (possibly 40?), and even MSU under 24 would be nice. Both Okla/Neb have NC hopes on the line and will impress out the gate. MSU isn't even considered in the B10 convo (OSU/Iowa/Wisky), pounding Hiller-less WMU will be a good start to the season.
Also, DBL, didn't Levi Brown graduate? I know BG lost key players in Sheehan and Barnes, but after last year's debacle, you're still thinking big with Troy even up to -14?? After rejoicing from 14-0 to 31 disappointing unanswered points, it's gonna be tough to pull the trigger on the them again.
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OU,and MSU make plenty of sense .... Nebraska scares me some this year but they are playing WKU.... I hope
all 3 hit for you ..... right now OU will be a 100-150 play if under 35, while Michigan St will be s small play (20-99) if less than 21....
Hand should send 'co-OC' Malzahn part of his check for fooling people into thinking he could takeover the Tulsa offense...2008 46ppg to 27ppg in 2009![]()
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Hand should send 'co-OC' Malzahn part of his check for fooling people into thinking he could takeover the Tulsa offense...2008 46ppg to 27ppg in 2009![]()
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Take Ohio State and lay the points . Marshall is going to get blown out.
Maybe ....![]()
what do you think the Line will be ???
How many points would you lay ???
Take Ohio State and lay the points . Marshall is going to get blown out.
Maybe ....![]()
what do you think the Line will be ???
How many points would you lay ???
Current Line Guesses
Thursday
Ohio St. 27.5 Marshall
SC 13.5 S. Miss 13.5 5D
Iowa St 10 Northern Illinois
Utah 3.5 Pitt 4.5 5D
Minnesota +1.5 *MD TN St.
Friday Sept 3rd
Arizona 15.5 *Toledo
Saturday Sept 4th
Colorado 10.5 Colorado St 10 5D (
LSU -2.5 UNC (Atlanta) -1 5D
Notre Dame 9
Army 7 *EMU
Clemson 37 North Texas
Auburn 28.5 Arkansas St
Troy 13.5 Bowling Green
Michigan 4 UConn 4 5D
Missouri 10.5 Illinois 10 5D (St. Louis)
UAB 9.5 FAU
Kentucky 6 *Louisville 6 5D
Georgia 28.5 Lou-La
Texas 43.5 Rice (houston)
Florida 43 Miami Ohio
Oregon 33.5 New Mexico
Vanderbilt +3
Alabama 42.5 SJ St
Kansas St +3 UCLA 3 5D
Washington +2.5 *BYU +3 5D
Oklahoma St 24.5 Washington St
Nebraska 39 WKU
Michigan St. 21.5 WMU
Current Line Guesses
Thursday
Ohio St. 27.5 Marshall
SC 13.5 S. Miss 13.5 5D
Iowa St 10 Northern Illinois
Utah 3.5 Pitt 4.5 5D
Minnesota +1.5 *MD TN St.
Friday Sept 3rd
Arizona 15.5 *Toledo
Saturday Sept 4th
Colorado 10.5 Colorado St 10 5D (
LSU -2.5 UNC (Atlanta) -1 5D
Notre Dame 9
Army 7 *EMU
Clemson 37 North Texas
Auburn 28.5 Arkansas St
Troy 13.5 Bowling Green
Michigan 4 UConn 4 5D
Missouri 10.5 Illinois 10 5D (St. Louis)
UAB 9.5 FAU
Kentucky 6 *Louisville 6 5D
Georgia 28.5 Lou-La
Texas 43.5 Rice (houston)
Florida 43 Miami Ohio
Oregon 33.5 New Mexico
Vanderbilt +3
Alabama 42.5 SJ St
Kansas St +3 UCLA 3 5D
Washington +2.5 *BYU +3 5D
Oklahoma St 24.5 Washington St
Nebraska 39 WKU
Michigan St. 21.5 WMU
Wisconsin 19.5 *UNLV 18 5D
Oklahoma 35.5 Utah St
Cincinnati 1 *Fresno St. PK 5D
TCU 10 Oregon St (dallas) 9.5 5D
Sunday Sept. 5th
ECU Pick Tulsa
Texas Tech 17.5 SMU
Monday Sept 6th
Navy 4.5 Maryland (Baltimore)
Virginia Tech +4 Boise St. +3.5 5D
Wisconsin 19.5 *UNLV 18 5D
Oklahoma 35.5 Utah St
Cincinnati 1 *Fresno St. PK 5D
TCU 10 Oregon St (dallas) 9.5 5D
Sunday Sept. 5th
ECU Pick Tulsa
Texas Tech 17.5 SMU
Monday Sept 6th
Navy 4.5 Maryland (Baltimore)
Virginia Tech +4 Boise St. +3.5 5D
Tulsa is still a strong play.....they'll probably be getting 3 pts but in all reality they should be giving 3 - 4 in a half......
Washington will go into Provo, Utah and come away with a win....Might not be easy, might be hard to watch but they' ll be 1-0 after the first week.....Way to much talent and coach has more then enough time to get his team where they need to be....
Oregon has the talent and speed to beat New Mexico by 50 pts if they want to......Much rests on that above statement...."if they want to" I would feel comfortable laying 31.....I could see a slow start but at the same time i could see just one complete dismantling of a team.....Still up in the air on this one....
All imput and comments are welcome......Thanks to all posters that actually post important info on this forum.....
Tulsa is still a strong play.....they'll probably be getting 3 pts but in all reality they should be giving 3 - 4 in a half......
Washington will go into Provo, Utah and come away with a win....Might not be easy, might be hard to watch but they' ll be 1-0 after the first week.....Way to much talent and coach has more then enough time to get his team where they need to be....
Oregon has the talent and speed to beat New Mexico by 50 pts if they want to......Much rests on that above statement...."if they want to" I would feel comfortable laying 31.....I could see a slow start but at the same time i could see just one complete dismantling of a team.....Still up in the air on this one....
All imput and comments are welcome......Thanks to all posters that actually post important info on this forum.....
I would take Neb -39
thanks Brother ....![]()
I get the feeling most people would not lay 40+![]()
or would they ??![]()
I would take Neb -39
thanks Brother ....![]()
I get the feeling most people would not lay 40+![]()
or would they ??![]()
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