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    Washington has NO DEFENSE..

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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 10:51 PM ET #1

     Washington is about to face a MONSTA they haven't ever seen before..

     

    Michigan defense is LOADED..  Doe's anyone really think that , this Washington offense is going to put 30 40 points on this team when Michigan hasn't allowed anyone all year over 30?? Ranked #1 in the country. NO!!!

     

    Dont tell me Michigan hasn't faced anyone either. Ohio State, Penn State , Alabama all high powered offenses couldn't crack that.....  

     

    Marvin Harrison who?? 

    Washington cant stop anyone. Michigan s defense does. 

     

    Michigan offense ball  time clock control , run and pass will eat this team alive... Washington will have very limited possessions and with Michigan s defense multiple turnover's by Washington's offense. Michigan defensive front are big physical and ridiculous Just ask everyone mentioned above.. This Michigan team was BUILT the same way that Alabama and Georgia were during there dominance years for this reason..  

    Michigan ROLLS!!!!  

     

    BET!!! 

     

    Michigan's 3rd playoff experience 3 years in a row and rebuilt for this moment. Sorry Washington you have NO DEFENSE to stop this train thats coming at you!!

     

    MIchigan 55 -17 FINAL

     

     

     

     

     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

     Washington is about to face a MONSTA they haven't ever seen before..

     

    Michigan defense is LOADED..  Doe's anyone really think that , this Washington offense is going to put 30 40 points on this team when Michigan hasn't allowed anyone all year over 30?? Ranked #1 in the country. NO!!!

     

    Dont tell me Michigan hasn't faced anyone either. Ohio State, Penn State , Alabama all high powered offenses couldn't crack that.....  

     

    Marvin Harrison who?? 

    Washington cant stop anyone. Michigan s defense does. 

     

    Michigan offense ball  time clock control , run and pass will eat this team alive... Washington will have very limited possessions and with Michigan s defense multiple turnover's by Washington's offense. Michigan defensive front are big physical and ridiculous Just ask everyone mentioned above.. This Michigan team was BUILT the same way that Alabama and Georgia were during there dominance years for this reason..  

    Michigan ROLLS!!!!  

     

    BET!!! 

     

    Michigan's 3rd playoff experience 3 years in a row and rebuilt for this moment. Sorry Washington you have NO DEFENSE to stop this train thats coming at you!!

     

    MIchigan 55 -17 FINAL

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 11:03 PM ET #2

    Wow,....that ain't gonna happen.. Michigan won't even sniff 30_points on offense

    I am a UW fan and I agree moderately on their defense... Week 2 I would have agreed a lot more

    Penix and UW just destroyed Oregon and Texas defenses. 

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    Wow,....that ain't gonna happen.. Michigan won't even sniff 30_points on offense

    I am a UW fan and I agree moderately on their defense... Week 2 I would have agreed a lot more

    Penix and UW just destroyed Oregon and Texas defenses. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 11:08 PM ET #3

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    Good luck !! Your  in for a long night! Washington gives up over 30 PPG.. Michigan does not.. Again good luck..You will  learn the hard way just like all of Michigan's other opponents had to!!  

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    Good luck !! Your  in for a long night! Washington gives up over 30 PPG.. Michigan does not.. Again good luck..You will  learn the hard way just like all of Michigan's other opponents had to!!  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 11:19 PM ET #4

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     Washington gives up over 30 PPG. Put your crack pipe down..  Texas and Oregon defense are a joke compared to Michigan's..  

     

    Washington defense is likened that to a Michigan State defense. LOL which is non existent..

     

    You all gonna find out the hard way.. You cant win without a defense .

     

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     Washington gives up over 30 PPG. Put your crack pipe down..  Texas and Oregon defense are a joke compared to Michigan's..  

     

    Washington defense is likened that to a Michigan State defense. LOL which is non existent..

     

    You all gonna find out the hard way.. You cant win without a defense .

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 11:30 PM ET #5

    I'll come back in here and say.I'm wrong if UW is trounced.

    Will US bashers do the same?

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    I'll come back in here and say.I'm wrong if UW is trounced.

    Will US bashers do the same?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 11:32 PM ET #6

    Uw just gave up 31 points to a,much much better offense and that included a late TD

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    Uw just gave up 31 points to a,much much better offense and that included a late TD

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 11:32 PM ET #7

    Penn State has a great offense ?
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    Penn State has a great offense ?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 11:36 PM ET #8

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     Yes they do. Do your homework

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    @demoman

     Yes they do. Do your homework

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 11:41 PM ET #9

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     Bro. Washington has NO DEFENSE. Look at your final scores all year and the points they have given up in each game.. And you really think thats gonna work against the beast in Michigan? Ill let you ramble.. Go ahead..LOL

     

    Your defense is ranked 96 th in the country by ncaa.com...lol

    According to pro football focus, the answer is a loud no.

    On overall defense, Michigan is the #1 defense in the country. The best Washington has played is Texas (#15) and Oregon (#19). Now, Texas actually has a really solid interior defense and are comparable to Michigan in one way: Rush Defense. Their rush defense is ranked #5 in the country (Michigan is #4) and Texas's interior line is the reason they are a top 15 defense total.

    But to beat Washington, you need to get pressure on Penix and you need to be great in coverage. And that's what Michigan has...

    PFF grades Michigan's pass rush as the 4th best in the country and it's coverage as the #1 unit in the country. Texas has the #16 ranked pass rush combined with the #63 ranked secondary. They handled the run and got some pressure, but they didn't separate receivers from the ball. Oregon has a great coverage scheme (#14 in the country) but a #45 ranked pass rush.

     

     

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     Bro. Washington has NO DEFENSE. Look at your final scores all year and the points they have given up in each game.. And you really think thats gonna work against the beast in Michigan? Ill let you ramble.. Go ahead..LOL

     

    Your defense is ranked 96 th in the country by ncaa.com...lol

    According to pro football focus, the answer is a loud no.

    On overall defense, Michigan is the #1 defense in the country. The best Washington has played is Texas (#15) and Oregon (#19). Now, Texas actually has a really solid interior defense and are comparable to Michigan in one way: Rush Defense. Their rush defense is ranked #5 in the country (Michigan is #4) and Texas's interior line is the reason they are a top 15 defense total.

    But to beat Washington, you need to get pressure on Penix and you need to be great in coverage. And that's what Michigan has...

    PFF grades Michigan's pass rush as the 4th best in the country and it's coverage as the #1 unit in the country. Texas has the #16 ranked pass rush combined with the #63 ranked secondary. They handled the run and got some pressure, but they didn't separate receivers from the ball. Oregon has a great coverage scheme (#14 in the country) but a #45 ranked pass rush.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 11:43 PM ET #10

    But UW score at will against anyone

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    But UW score at will against anyone

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 11:45 PM ET #11

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     Now you play MICHIGAN and that will NOT HAPPEN>> Beacsue you play teams with NO DEFENSES!!

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     Now you play MICHIGAN and that will NOT HAPPEN>> Beacsue you play teams with NO DEFENSES!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 11:48 PM ET #12

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     MICHIGAN is the new ALABAMA and GEORGIA team of the past 10 years!! Michigan knows who PENIX is he played at INDIANA..

     

    bahahah!

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     MICHIGAN is the new ALABAMA and GEORGIA team of the past 10 years!! Michigan knows who PENIX is he played at INDIANA..

     

    bahahah!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2024 - 12:03 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by magicmike45:

    @jimrockford22  MICHIGAN is the new ALABAMA and GEORGIA team of the past 10 years!! Michigan knows who PENIX is he played at INDIANA..   bahahah!

    Penis raped UM last time they played.

    How is UM the new Alabama? 2 nights ago, You were "on life support" vs Bama's worst team in 10 years. You beat them in overtime

    TCU beat you in 2022 and then got beaten by 55 points the next game.

    Lastly, harbaugh was suspended twice for cheating this season (almost 3 times)...no other head coach was suspended ONCE...your wins are meaningless but you know that

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmike45:

    @jimrockford22  MICHIGAN is the new ALABAMA and GEORGIA team of the past 10 years!! Michigan knows who PENIX is he played at INDIANA..   bahahah!

    Penis raped UM last time they played.

    How is UM the new Alabama? 2 nights ago, You were "on life support" vs Bama's worst team in 10 years. You beat them in overtime

    TCU beat you in 2022 and then got beaten by 55 points the next game.

    Lastly, harbaugh was suspended twice for cheating this season (almost 3 times)...no other head coach was suspended ONCE...your wins are meaningless but you know that

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2024 - 12:09 AM ET #14

    How is UM won't score 30 correspond to "put down the crackpipe"?

    Vegas UM total is 31 points

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    How is UM won't score 30 correspond to "put down the crackpipe"?

    Vegas UM total is 31 points

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2024 - 12:09 AM ET #15

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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2024 - 12:11 AM ET #16

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          The problem here is that Washington has a +8  in  AOPR ..and a Mathematical season rate guide favoring Wash by 0.2 ppg overall which makes both teams even on a NF. One team (Wash) can score at will ( 34 pure ppg/road) the opponent Michigan doesn't score at will ( 17-19 pppg). One team (Wash ) gives up 31 pure per game exact (recent road form) the opponent(Mich) gives up 18- 20. vs  lesser AOPR caliber teams.

     

         Because of Washingtons +8 AOPR (caliber of competition) superiority they will be able to score at least 30 on Michigan's defense. and because Michigan with their their paltry road offense of 17-19 pure points per game , they will have a hard time scoring 30 vs Wash defense, maybe 28 at the most.

         Michigan's last 4 road opponents couldn't score more than 15 pure ppg on average. Was it because Mich had this solid defense or was it because the opponents offense Mich faced was lacking. I would have to say the ladder. Wash is no Penn St / Maryland / Iowa, they are a power house and Penix delivers . The only decent  offense Mich faced in their 4 game road series(recent form ) was Bama, and it took them to OT to do it and struggled while getting there. The teams Mich faced on the road are not good offenses exceot Ala. and now Michigan gets to face one they haven't seen  in a while, in fact, when they did they lost(TCU). I'm looking for a cover on the dog..Michigan can still win this game, if they do it wont be by more than a fg. My score prediction 34-28 Wash. However,  Once the human factor comes into play, anything can happen. All we can do is cap the game..the intangibles are out of our hands. GL with your playpeace_5

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          The problem here is that Washington has a +8  in  AOPR ..and a Mathematical season rate guide favoring Wash by 0.2 ppg overall which makes both teams even on a NF. One team (Wash) can score at will ( 34 pure ppg/road) the opponent Michigan doesn't score at will ( 17-19 pppg). One team (Wash ) gives up 31 pure per game exact (recent road form) the opponent(Mich) gives up 18- 20. vs  lesser AOPR caliber teams.

     

         Because of Washingtons +8 AOPR (caliber of competition) superiority they will be able to score at least 30 on Michigan's defense. and because Michigan with their their paltry road offense of 17-19 pure points per game , they will have a hard time scoring 30 vs Wash defense, maybe 28 at the most.

         Michigan's last 4 road opponents couldn't score more than 15 pure ppg on average. Was it because Mich had this solid defense or was it because the opponents offense Mich faced was lacking. I would have to say the ladder. Wash is no Penn St / Maryland / Iowa, they are a power house and Penix delivers . The only decent  offense Mich faced in their 4 game road series(recent form ) was Bama, and it took them to OT to do it and struggled while getting there. The teams Mich faced on the road are not good offenses exceot Ala. and now Michigan gets to face one they haven't seen  in a while, in fact, when they did they lost(TCU). I'm looking for a cover on the dog..Michigan can still win this game, if they do it wont be by more than a fg. My score prediction 34-28 Wash. However,  Once the human factor comes into play, anything can happen. All we can do is cap the game..the intangibles are out of our hands. GL with your playpeace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2024 - 12:54 AM ET #18

     Penis raped UM last time they played. How is UM the new Alabama? 2 nights ago, You were "on life support" vs Bama's worst team in 10 years. You beat them in overtime TCU beat you in 2022 and then got beaten by 55 points the next game. Lastly, harbaugh was suspended twice for cheating this season (almost 3 times)...no other head coach was suspended ONCE...your wins are meaningless but you know that[/Quote]

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     Penis raped UM last time they played. How is UM the new Alabama? 2 nights ago, You were "on life support" vs Bama's worst team in 10 years. You beat them in overtime TCU beat you in 2022 and then got beaten by 55 points the next game. Lastly, harbaugh was suspended twice for cheating this season (almost 3 times)...no other head coach was suspended ONCE...your wins are meaningless but you know that[/Quote]

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    Both teams played weak non-conference slates so there's little objective way to compare them

    I will note that against a veritable "Murderer's Row" of East Carolina, UNLV, Bowling Green and Rutgers that UM averaged 32 points on offense

     

    Vegas spread is UM -4.5.. Suggests that UM is moderately better than UW... I am willing to put $10k down on UW +14 if I can get the fair 9-1 odds.... Would you do UM -22.5 if you could? ... Wait, I know the answer

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    Both teams played weak non-conference slates so there's little objective way to compare them

    I will note that against a veritable "Murderer's Row" of East Carolina, UNLV, Bowling Green and Rutgers that UM averaged 32 points on offense

     

    Vegas spread is UM -4.5.. Suggests that UM is moderately better than UW... I am willing to put $10k down on UW +14 if I can get the fair 9-1 odds.... Would you do UM -22.5 if you could? ... Wait, I know the answer

     
    jimrockford22
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    Wizeguy, I like that analysis. My derogatory comment (since erased) was for the UM troll

    One problem I have is that there aren't enough inter-conference games between ranked team's

    UW has been dominant ATS and SU the last 2 years vs. Ranked opponents...

    One thing about these playoff games is they are topsey turvey..seems like anything can happen, including massive blowouts

    To me, I think the result of this game may have skewed distribution ... UW with better chance of blowout win but maybe UM with bet chance of winning game than ML would suggest

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    Wizeguy, I like that analysis. My derogatory comment (since erased) was for the UM troll

    One problem I have is that there aren't enough inter-conference games between ranked team's

    UW has been dominant ATS and SU the last 2 years vs. Ranked opponents...

    One thing about these playoff games is they are topsey turvey..seems like anything can happen, including massive blowouts

    To me, I think the result of this game may have skewed distribution ... UW with better chance of blowout win but maybe UM with bet chance of winning game than ML would suggest

     
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    @magicmike45

    “Dont tell me Michigan hasn't faced anyone either. Ohio State, Penn State , Alabama all high powered offenses couldn't crack that....”


    Ohio St #47 in total offense 

    Penn St #54 in total offense 

    Alabama #58 in total offense

     

    Boy, if those are “high powered offenses” imagine what Washington’s top 10 offense must be.  Dare I say, UNSTOPPABLE???

     

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    @magicmike45

    “Dont tell me Michigan hasn't faced anyone either. Ohio State, Penn State , Alabama all high powered offenses couldn't crack that....”


    Ohio St #47 in total offense 

    Penn St #54 in total offense 

    Alabama #58 in total offense

     

    Boy, if those are “high powered offenses” imagine what Washington’s top 10 offense must be.  Dare I say, UNSTOPPABLE???

     

     
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    @jimrockford22

    Any feelings about the over/under 55? I want to say under because Michigan loves to run the ball and waste clock. UW seems to do their own version of that by running clock down between plays. But, UW’s ability is score at will makes me afraid of the under. 

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    @jimrockford22

    Any feelings about the over/under 55? I want to say under because Michigan loves to run the ball and waste clock. UW seems to do their own version of that by running clock down between plays. But, UW’s ability is score at will makes me afraid of the under. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmike45:

    Washington is about to face a MONSTA they haven't ever seen before..   Michigan defense is LOADED..  Doe's anyone really think that , this Washington offense is going to put 30 40 points on this team when Michigan hasn't allowed anyone all year over 30?? Ranked #1 in the country. NO!!!   Dont tell me Michigan hasn't faced anyone either. Ohio State, Penn State , Alabama all high powered offenses couldn't crack that.....     Marvin Harrison who??  Washington cant stop anyone. Michigan s defense does.    Michigan offense ball  time clock control , run and pass will eat this team alive... Washington will have very limited possessions and with Michigan s defense multiple turnover's by Washington's offense. Michigan defensive front are big physical and ridiculous Just ask everyone mentioned above.. This Michigan team was BUILT the same way that Alabama and Georgia were during there dominance years for this reason..   Michigan ROLLS!!!!     BET!!!    Michigan's 3rd playoff experience 3 years in a row and rebuilt for this moment. Sorry Washington you have NO DEFENSE to stop this train thats coming at you!!   MIchigan 55 -17 FINAL

    Finally someone intelligent agrees what I am seeing.  It's just another Covers Washington Bettors Bloodbath! Let's Fkn rock this game. Go Michigan  eat those huskies alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmike45:

    Washington is about to face a MONSTA they haven't ever seen before..   Michigan defense is LOADED..  Doe's anyone really think that , this Washington offense is going to put 30 40 points on this team when Michigan hasn't allowed anyone all year over 30?? Ranked #1 in the country. NO!!!   Dont tell me Michigan hasn't faced anyone either. Ohio State, Penn State , Alabama all high powered offenses couldn't crack that.....     Marvin Harrison who??  Washington cant stop anyone. Michigan s defense does.    Michigan offense ball  time clock control , run and pass will eat this team alive... Washington will have very limited possessions and with Michigan s defense multiple turnover's by Washington's offense. Michigan defensive front are big physical and ridiculous Just ask everyone mentioned above.. This Michigan team was BUILT the same way that Alabama and Georgia were during there dominance years for this reason..   Michigan ROLLS!!!!     BET!!!    Michigan's 3rd playoff experience 3 years in a row and rebuilt for this moment. Sorry Washington you have NO DEFENSE to stop this train thats coming at you!!   MIchigan 55 -17 FINAL

    Finally someone intelligent agrees what I am seeing.  It's just another Covers Washington Bettors Bloodbath! Let's Fkn rock this game. Go Michigan  eat those huskies alive.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2024 - 5:49 AM ET #24

    Michigan has not seen a QB like Penix.  It even close. 

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    Michigan has not seen a QB like Penix.  It even close. 

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2024 - 6:34 AM ET #25

    @magicmike45

     i love 1 bet on that game jj mcarthy over 190.5 passing yards. 85-90%  of all the teams they played all year had over 200 yards against washington.

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    @magicmike45

     i love 1 bet on that game jj mcarthy over 190.5 passing yards. 85-90%  of all the teams they played all year had over 200 yards against washington.

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