Week One card to date: FSU -2, South Carolina -28, Iowa -10.5
so are these your only official plays to date? the only one I wouldn't bet would be FSU, I would rather watch that game than lay road chalk with those two quarterbacks, I obviously love Iowa and South Carolina as I am on both of them
Correct, those three plays make up my whole card to date. I have two totals on the radar even though I suck at totals: GT/ND under, and UGA/OSU over. And about 2 more spread plays picking from: Utah +7 or more, VT -24 or less, MSU -20 or less, Oregon -14 or less, EMU +21 or more, and Cal -6 or less. I was looking at KU and MTSU both from a spread standpoint if I had gotten the numbers I wanted, but it probably won't happen. And I am looking for about 3-5 good MLDs.
I cannot blame you for just watching the Labor Day game, but you know damn well that as bad as Weatherford/Lee are, they will look like Joe M. compared to Harper. He is gonna be up Shit Creek without a paddle against that defense and no receivers to throw to. 8 Noles in the box is basically a guarantee.
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Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
Week One card to date: FSU -2, South Carolina -28, Iowa -10.5
so are these your only official plays to date? the only one I wouldn't bet would be FSU, I would rather watch that game than lay road chalk with those two quarterbacks, I obviously love Iowa and South Carolina as I am on both of them
Correct, those three plays make up my whole card to date. I have two totals on the radar even though I suck at totals: GT/ND under, and UGA/OSU over. And about 2 more spread plays picking from: Utah +7 or more, VT -24 or less, MSU -20 or less, Oregon -14 or less, EMU +21 or more, and Cal -6 or less. I was looking at KU and MTSU both from a spread standpoint if I had gotten the numbers I wanted, but it probably won't happen. And I am looking for about 3-5 good MLDs.
I cannot blame you for just watching the Labor Day game, but you know damn well that as bad as Weatherford/Lee are, they will look like Joe M. compared to Harper. He is gonna be up Shit Creek without a paddle against that defense and no receivers to throw to. 8 Noles in the box is basically a guarantee.
I've been gathering what I can on the Huskies &, at this point, it doesn't look all that great. Locker is improving but I think his running is his strong point. Starting his 1st game on the road, I can foresee him getting a bit shaken & tucking the ball & running...........not a bad thing unless it happens all day. I won't be surprised if Bonnell gets in for a couple series. LB Butler is hurt (knee) & hasn't been participating much in practice. Rankin is the clear starter @ RB but Hasty is in danger of slipping to 3rd on the depth chart. They have a couple true frosh that are impressing but it sounds like they'll be relegated to ST's for now. The OL is clearly the strength of this squad, along with the 5 seniors @ WR.The PK is going to be suspect..........very suspect, as is the punting. The front 7 on D should be pretty strong but the depth is rather young. They'll be suspect in the 2ndary early.
I know nothing of Syracuse right now. I've been busy & haven't even picked up Steeles magazine yet............pathetic. Unless 'cuse is absolute crap, I'm not sure I can back the Dawgs here. They have some good talent & a lot of players with game experience due to injuries in the L2 years. But if Locker is tabbed as the starter for this game, I have to believe there will be some mistakes. I think their best chance is to just pound the ball at the Orange & just mix in some short throws for Locker.
TW has had practices closed with the exception of Friday & the 'squad game Saturday so info has been sketchy. It's hard to know what to expect, but reporters have stated that, from what they've been able to witness, this team isn't looking all that sharp at this point. I'll give you more next week.
BTW........good to see you back Matador........redbearde
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I've been gathering what I can on the Huskies &, at this point, it doesn't look all that great. Locker is improving but I think his running is his strong point. Starting his 1st game on the road, I can foresee him getting a bit shaken & tucking the ball & running...........not a bad thing unless it happens all day. I won't be surprised if Bonnell gets in for a couple series. LB Butler is hurt (knee) & hasn't been participating much in practice. Rankin is the clear starter @ RB but Hasty is in danger of slipping to 3rd on the depth chart. They have a couple true frosh that are impressing but it sounds like they'll be relegated to ST's for now. The OL is clearly the strength of this squad, along with the 5 seniors @ WR.The PK is going to be suspect..........very suspect, as is the punting. The front 7 on D should be pretty strong but the depth is rather young. They'll be suspect in the 2ndary early.
I know nothing of Syracuse right now. I've been busy & haven't even picked up Steeles magazine yet............pathetic. Unless 'cuse is absolute crap, I'm not sure I can back the Dawgs here. They have some good talent & a lot of players with game experience due to injuries in the L2 years. But if Locker is tabbed as the starter for this game, I have to believe there will be some mistakes. I think their best chance is to just pound the ball at the Orange & just mix in some short throws for Locker.
TW has had practices closed with the exception of Friday & the 'squad game Saturday so info has been sketchy. It's hard to know what to expect, but reporters have stated that, from what they've been able to witness, this team isn't looking all that sharp at this point. I'll give you more next week.
BTW........good to see you back Matador........redbearde
Correct, those three plays make up my whole card to date. I have two totals on the radar even though I suck at totals: GT/ND under, and UGA/OSU over. And about 2 more spread plays picking from: Utah +7 or more, VT -24 or less, MSU -20 or less, Oregon -14 or less, EMU +21 or more, and Cal -6 or less. I was looking at KU and MTSU both from a spread standpoint if I had gotten the numbers I wanted, but it probably won't happen. And I am looking for about 3-5 good MLDs.
I cannot blame you for just watching the Labor Day game, but you know damn well that as bad as Weatherford/Lee are, they will look like Joe M. compared to Harper. He is gonna be up Shit Creek without a paddle against that defense and no receivers to throw to. 8 Noles in the box is basically a guarantee.
love it Gar, your probably right, something about those Nole QB's just spells defensive touchdown for Clemson, anyhow I'm also leaning to Michigan St at this point and I like some of your other thoughts as well, we are certainly on the same page for week one as of now
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Quote Originally Posted by The Garfather:
Correct, those three plays make up my whole card to date. I have two totals on the radar even though I suck at totals: GT/ND under, and UGA/OSU over. And about 2 more spread plays picking from: Utah +7 or more, VT -24 or less, MSU -20 or less, Oregon -14 or less, EMU +21 or more, and Cal -6 or less. I was looking at KU and MTSU both from a spread standpoint if I had gotten the numbers I wanted, but it probably won't happen. And I am looking for about 3-5 good MLDs.
I cannot blame you for just watching the Labor Day game, but you know damn well that as bad as Weatherford/Lee are, they will look like Joe M. compared to Harper. He is gonna be up Shit Creek without a paddle against that defense and no receivers to throw to. 8 Noles in the box is basically a guarantee.
love it Gar, your probably right, something about those Nole QB's just spells defensive touchdown for Clemson, anyhow I'm also leaning to Michigan St at this point and I like some of your other thoughts as well, we are certainly on the same page for week one as of now
Thanks for the update Mugg. This one is gonna be UW, under, or pass. No Cuse until they prove they can score.
bigjoe, I just noticed your question at the top of this thread from about a week ago. Sorry for not responding. If you are still reading all the way down here, then you need to get a life and go to LV now instead of waiting for the first of the month, but to answer your question, I don't know as I have never been (can you believe it?)
I am hoping to fix that though in early January at a buddy's bachelor party. I would suspect the parlay card would be limited, but I'm not totally sure.
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Thanks for the update Mugg. This one is gonna be UW, under, or pass. No Cuse until they prove they can score.
bigjoe, I just noticed your question at the top of this thread from about a week ago. Sorry for not responding. If you are still reading all the way down here, then you need to get a life and go to LV now instead of waiting for the first of the month, but to answer your question, I don't know as I have never been (can you believe it?)
I am hoping to fix that though in early January at a buddy's bachelor party. I would suspect the parlay card would be limited, but I'm not totally sure.
I enjoy this thread, and take a sort of pride in it, its a labor of love as they say. But damned if this thing isn't getting totally out of hand. 500 views and 25 replies just today and we're still 9 days out. I feel sorry for anyone with a dial-up.
I am gonna have to scale this thing back as we get closer, and probably during the season. As much as I love the conversation it takes away actual capping time.
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I enjoy this thread, and take a sort of pride in it, its a labor of love as they say. But damned if this thing isn't getting totally out of hand. 500 views and 25 replies just today and we're still 9 days out. I feel sorry for anyone with a dial-up.
I am gonna have to scale this thing back as we get closer, and probably during the season. As much as I love the conversation it takes away actual capping time.
Gar - is it correct to assume the Miami value will go up a little bit more in the next week?
Wagerline shows the -6 as about a 50/50 split, and that's kinda where i think the line is going to sit... it'd be nice to see it go up another dime or so, any chance there in your view?
Also - are there are games coming back into the realm of possibility for you now that the lines are settling even more? Anything gaining more value that you've checked back in on, after previously ruling out? (central michigan, for instance, is up to +275.. was only at 240 when you last mentioned it)
Just curious... by the way, my guesses for your 3 plays are..
Miami, Toledo, and Kansas State? Amirite?
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Gar - is it correct to assume the Miami value will go up a little bit more in the next week?
Wagerline shows the -6 as about a 50/50 split, and that's kinda where i think the line is going to sit... it'd be nice to see it go up another dime or so, any chance there in your view?
Also - are there are games coming back into the realm of possibility for you now that the lines are settling even more? Anything gaining more value that you've checked back in on, after previously ruling out? (central michigan, for instance, is up to +275.. was only at 240 when you last mentioned it)
Just curious... by the way, my guesses for your 3 plays are..
I went ahead and played Army +180 and Illinois +190 at Greek. Didn't intend to play anything but 2nd halves until week 3, but what the hell, I'm a degenerate.
Also grabbed BGSU while it was still +16 at Matchbook. Had to lay -110 though. I guess some others were thinking along the same lines......
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I went ahead and played Army +180 and Illinois +190 at Greek. Didn't intend to play anything but 2nd halves until week 3, but what the hell, I'm a degenerate.
Also grabbed BGSU while it was still +16 at Matchbook. Had to lay -110 though. I guess some others were thinking along the same lines......
I enjoy this thread, and take a sort of pride in it, its a labor of love as they say. But damned if this thing isn't getting totally out of hand. 500 views and 25 replies just today and we're still 9 days out. I feel sorry for anyone with a dial-up.
I find the conversation pretty helpful in organizing my thoughts about a game. And whatever is this "dial-up" of which you speak?
pags, vols, Mugg, good to see you fellas too. Matador, I understand the play on Army, and I know Illinois is a popular bunch, but are they that much better this year? I expect them to do better than 2-10 this year(I see 4 likely, perhaps even 6 winnable games), but I don't believe it will start versus the Tigers. I'm a believer in Chase Daniel, and with 9 returning O starters, I wouldn't expect them to miss a beat offensively. Illinois is 6-2 last 8 season openers...the two losses were to Missouri in St Louis - and Illinois hasn't won in Missouri in 30 years. Ick. I might be liable to wager on Pussies against the illini...probly not. But that's where I'd lean there. GL sir.
So far as far as MLs go, I have
Miami, OH +200 Utah St +230 Arizona +205
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Quote Originally Posted by The Garfather:
I enjoy this thread, and take a sort of pride in it, its a labor of love as they say. But damned if this thing isn't getting totally out of hand. 500 views and 25 replies just today and we're still 9 days out. I feel sorry for anyone with a dial-up.
I find the conversation pretty helpful in organizing my thoughts about a game. And whatever is this "dial-up" of which you speak?
pags, vols, Mugg, good to see you fellas too. Matador, I understand the play on Army, and I know Illinois is a popular bunch, but are they that much better this year? I expect them to do better than 2-10 this year(I see 4 likely, perhaps even 6 winnable games), but I don't believe it will start versus the Tigers. I'm a believer in Chase Daniel, and with 9 returning O starters, I wouldn't expect them to miss a beat offensively. Illinois is 6-2 last 8 season openers...the two losses were to Missouri in St Louis - and Illinois hasn't won in Missouri in 30 years. Ick. I might be liable to wager on Pussies against the illini...probly not. But that's where I'd lean there. GL sir.
I am slowly but surely coming around on Army, it will come down to who scores first as the first score may also end up being the last score of the game. Won't be able to get on there on the Illini I don't think.
craftsy21, I would tend to think it will fall more likely than rise and the only reason I say that is the line predictions I saw coming from folks here. I myself had it at Cards -2 and many others had a PK or even a couple with Miami favored, so the I think the gen-consen would be that 6 points is too much respect being shown to a mediocre MAC team laying points. I think it closes at 180ish. Just for the record are you cappy22 or have you always been craftsy21 and I am just delusional? I remember at least one PSU fan frequenting my threads last season.
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I am slowly but surely coming around on Army, it will come down to who scores first as the first score may also end up being the last score of the game. Won't be able to get on there on the Illini I don't think.
craftsy21, I would tend to think it will fall more likely than rise and the only reason I say that is the line predictions I saw coming from folks here. I myself had it at Cards -2 and many others had a PK or even a couple with Miami favored, so the I think the gen-consen would be that 6 points is too much respect being shown to a mediocre MAC team laying points. I think it closes at 180ish. Just for the record are you cappy22 or have you always been craftsy21 and I am just delusional? I remember at least one PSU fan frequenting my threads last season.
Re: The Illini. I'm an alum, and hopefully, somewhat of an informed observer. I pretty much think similarly to you on this game. Although it's tempting to make a run at the ML on the Illini in this one, I frankly will be shocked if they win this game, and will probably be holding a Mizzou ticket when all is said and done.
First of all, for all their spunk last year, they proved only that they will figure out how to lose. Offensively, assuming some growth at QB by Juice Williams, they should be --ok-- on offense. If they play well on O on 9/1, they will put up between 20-24 points. Anything more than that is fantasy in my opinion, even against a mediocre at best Missouri D. They can put up yards, but scoring is a different matter. On the other side, their D should be quite good, but this Missouri offense will be one of the most potent in the nation this year. Like you, I am 100% sold on Chase Daniel, and he has both of those tight ends back(Coffman, Rucker). Even if the Illini play well on D, Mizzou is likely to put up 30, since I expect at least one score handed to them via a turnover in a bad spot. That adds up to about at least a 7 point win for MU even if Illinois plays well, which they probably won't looking at past performances in that dome against inferior Mizzou teams to this one. It's asking too much of these guys to hang with a legitimate contender in the Big 12 coming off a 2-10 season, regardless of the fact that they were about as competitive as a 2-10 team can be.
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Redbearde,
Re: The Illini. I'm an alum, and hopefully, somewhat of an informed observer. I pretty much think similarly to you on this game. Although it's tempting to make a run at the ML on the Illini in this one, I frankly will be shocked if they win this game, and will probably be holding a Mizzou ticket when all is said and done.
First of all, for all their spunk last year, they proved only that they will figure out how to lose. Offensively, assuming some growth at QB by Juice Williams, they should be --ok-- on offense. If they play well on O on 9/1, they will put up between 20-24 points. Anything more than that is fantasy in my opinion, even against a mediocre at best Missouri D. They can put up yards, but scoring is a different matter. On the other side, their D should be quite good, but this Missouri offense will be one of the most potent in the nation this year. Like you, I am 100% sold on Chase Daniel, and he has both of those tight ends back(Coffman, Rucker). Even if the Illini play well on D, Mizzou is likely to put up 30, since I expect at least one score handed to them via a turnover in a bad spot. That adds up to about at least a 7 point win for MU even if Illinois plays well, which they probably won't looking at past performances in that dome against inferior Mizzou teams to this one. It's asking too much of these guys to hang with a legitimate contender in the Big 12 coming off a 2-10 season, regardless of the fact that they were about as competitive as a 2-10 team can be.
I am slowly but surely coming around on Army, it will come down to who scores first as the first score may also end up being the last score of the game. Won't be able to get on there on the Illini I don't think.
craftsy21, I would tend to think it will fall more likely than rise and the only reason I say that is the line predictions I saw coming from folks here. I myself had it at Cards -2 and many others had a PK or even a couple with Miami favored, so the I think the gen-consen would be that 6 points is too much respect being shown to a mediocre MAC team laying points. I think it closes at 180ish. Just for the record are you cappy22 or have you always been craftsy21 and I am just delusional? I remember at least one PSU fan frequenting my threads last season.
I love the under in the Army game, but I don't mess with totals except in very rare occasions, later in the season, so don't take that love for too much because i'm an idiot with those numbers.
And I used to frequent your posts quite a bit last year - but I am not cappy... I certainly remember cappy, i think he still posts here.
Anyways - i see what you're saying with the MAC game...If i'm playing it, i need to get on it soon. Maybe just a few more days.. i can't see it moving much either way before the weekend.
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Quote Originally Posted by The Garfather:
I am slowly but surely coming around on Army, it will come down to who scores first as the first score may also end up being the last score of the game. Won't be able to get on there on the Illini I don't think.
craftsy21, I would tend to think it will fall more likely than rise and the only reason I say that is the line predictions I saw coming from folks here. I myself had it at Cards -2 and many others had a PK or even a couple with Miami favored, so the I think the gen-consen would be that 6 points is too much respect being shown to a mediocre MAC team laying points. I think it closes at 180ish. Just for the record are you cappy22 or have you always been craftsy21 and I am just delusional? I remember at least one PSU fan frequenting my threads last season.
I love the under in the Army game, but I don't mess with totals except in very rare occasions, later in the season, so don't take that love for too much because i'm an idiot with those numbers.
And I used to frequent your posts quite a bit last year - but I am not cappy... I certainly remember cappy, i think he still posts here.
Anyways - i see what you're saying with the MAC game...If i'm playing it, i need to get on it soon. Maybe just a few more days.. i can't see it moving much either way before the weekend.
Brassknux, we need all the informed observers and their observations we can get. Good stuff there, bro. How bout that...another team specialist in the mix!
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Brassknux, we need all the informed observers and their observations we can get. Good stuff there, bro. How bout that...another team specialist in the mix!
Just for the record, as I know it will be asked, I would certainly prefer to have Blake Mitchell and Dominique Douglas playing for their respective teams, but I am not getting off of either game. I wouldn't have bet early if would have thought these were one man teams, that (injury or susp) would be too much of a risk. FSU, USC, and Iowa are all plays that I made based on their defenses, coaching, and line value. One or two players no matter how prominent won't be enough to get me to shift my vantage point. There is no guarantee that the Cajuns will even score and the absence or presence of Blake Mitchell has no impact on that because he obviously isn't a defensive player.
Now if I had SMU and Willis got suspended or Iowa State and Meyer gets injured that would be another matter as those appear to largely be one-man teams and offenses.
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Just for the record, as I know it will be asked, I would certainly prefer to have Blake Mitchell and Dominique Douglas playing for their respective teams, but I am not getting off of either game. I wouldn't have bet early if would have thought these were one man teams, that (injury or susp) would be too much of a risk. FSU, USC, and Iowa are all plays that I made based on their defenses, coaching, and line value. One or two players no matter how prominent won't be enough to get me to shift my vantage point. There is no guarantee that the Cajuns will even score and the absence or presence of Blake Mitchell has no impact on that because he obviously isn't a defensive player.
Now if I had SMU and Willis got suspended or Iowa State and Meyer gets injured that would be another matter as those appear to largely be one-man teams and offenses.
Just for the record, as I know it will be asked, I would certainly prefer to have Blake Mitchell and Dominique Douglas playing for their respective teams, but I am not getting off of either game. I wouldn't have bet early if would have thought these were one man teams, that (injury or susp) would be too much of a risk. FSU, USC, and Iowa are all plays that I made based on their defenses, coaching, and line value. One or two players no matter how prominent won't be enough to get me to shift my vantage point. There is no guarantee that the Cajuns will even score and the absence or presence of Blake Mitchell has no impact on that because he obviously isn't a defensive player.
Now if I had SMU and Willis got suspended or Iowa State and Meyer gets injured that would be another matter as those appear to largely be one-man teams and offenses.
I agree, I will take my chances with a Spurrier coached quarterback and that defense against Lafayette all day long, it will still be a blowout
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Quote Originally Posted by The Garfather:
Just for the record, as I know it will be asked, I would certainly prefer to have Blake Mitchell and Dominique Douglas playing for their respective teams, but I am not getting off of either game. I wouldn't have bet early if would have thought these were one man teams, that (injury or susp) would be too much of a risk. FSU, USC, and Iowa are all plays that I made based on their defenses, coaching, and line value. One or two players no matter how prominent won't be enough to get me to shift my vantage point. There is no guarantee that the Cajuns will even score and the absence or presence of Blake Mitchell has no impact on that because he obviously isn't a defensive player.
Now if I had SMU and Willis got suspended or Iowa State and Meyer gets injured that would be another matter as those appear to largely be one-man teams and offenses.
I agree, I will take my chances with a Spurrier coached quarterback and that defense against Lafayette all day long, it will still be a blowout
I dont want to start anymore work for you Garf but the Wakeforest game seems to me like Wake is going to crush that young Boston defence and wouldnt doubt if this game goes over also ----Wake usually spreads out the offence and that might be a little much for the Boston defence to go man to man ---Boston will be on its heals this whole game IMOP love the over in this game and Wake
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I dont want to start anymore work for you Garf but the Wakeforest game seems to me like Wake is going to crush that young Boston defence and wouldnt doubt if this game goes over also ----Wake usually spreads out the offence and that might be a little much for the Boston defence to go man to man ---Boston will be on its heals this whole game IMOP love the over in this game and Wake
I dont want to start anymore work for you Garf but the Wakeforest game seems to me like Wake is going to crush that young Boston defence and wouldnt doubt if this game goes over also ----Wake usually spreads out the offence and that might be a little much for the Boston defence to go man to man ---Boston will be on its heals this whole game IMOP love the over in this game and Wake
WHat defense are you referring to? BC returns 9 starters(8 with the loss of Toal), including 6 Srs and 2 Jrs. that is neither young, nor inexperienced. In fact, I think the D will be the strength of this team. They may take some time learning new schemes on the offensive side of the ball(actually, I doubt that too), but they should be very solid and may equal last yr's 15.7ppg.
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Quote Originally Posted by losuds63:
I dont want to start anymore work for you Garf but the Wakeforest game seems to me like Wake is going to crush that young Boston defence and wouldnt doubt if this game goes over also ----Wake usually spreads out the offence and that might be a little much for the Boston defence to go man to man ---Boston will be on its heals this whole game IMOP love the over in this game and Wake
WHat defense are you referring to? BC returns 9 starters(8 with the loss of Toal), including 6 Srs and 2 Jrs. that is neither young, nor inexperienced. In fact, I think the D will be the strength of this team. They may take some time learning new schemes on the offensive side of the ball(actually, I doubt that too), but they should be very solid and may equal last yr's 15.7ppg.
Difficult to see BC as young on defense at all starting 7 SR, 3 JR and 1 SO (that's subtracting Toal), although the 2nd team is mostly SO so maybe that is the point.
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Difficult to see BC as young on defense at all starting 7 SR, 3 JR and 1 SO (that's subtracting Toal), although the 2nd team is mostly SO so maybe that is the point.
BCs strength is its defense, and the coaching changeover has left the defense with continuity in Spaziani as DC and McGovern as LB coach. I'm terrible at names, but I think I have those correct.
The BC offense has been badly outplayed by the D in preseason- at least that's what we are told. One true frosh will be first string RT, and a couple of the other linemen have been charged with some disturbance at a local bar. I think one was Chevilus ( sp ? ) supposedly their best OL.
BC is using new blocking schemes, so the offense apparently hasn't mastered the changes yet.
I'm not sold on Wake as a ML play., so I'm sorry about cluttering Gar's thread this way, but BC seemed to be under discussion.
I have one ML play so fgar and one Coattail ATS play.
Miami O @ +195
Iowa -12 @ +104.
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BCs strength is its defense, and the coaching changeover has left the defense with continuity in Spaziani as DC and McGovern as LB coach. I'm terrible at names, but I think I have those correct.
The BC offense has been badly outplayed by the D in preseason- at least that's what we are told. One true frosh will be first string RT, and a couple of the other linemen have been charged with some disturbance at a local bar. I think one was Chevilus ( sp ? ) supposedly their best OL.
BC is using new blocking schemes, so the offense apparently hasn't mastered the changes yet.
I'm not sold on Wake as a ML play., so I'm sorry about cluttering Gar's thread this way, but BC seemed to be under discussion.
I have one ML play so fgar and one Coattail ATS play.
Difficult to see BC as young on defense at all starting 7 SR, 3 JR and 1 SO (that's subtracting Toal), although the 2nd team is mostly SO so maybe that is the point.
I think when i looked at the roster i over looked that thanks for clairification --This will change my mind now
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Quote Originally Posted by nostradamus12:
Difficult to see BC as young on defense at all starting 7 SR, 3 JR and 1 SO (that's subtracting Toal), although the 2nd team is mostly SO so maybe that is the point.
I think when i looked at the roster i over looked that thanks for clairification --This will change my mind now
Just for the record, as I know it will be asked, I would certainly prefer to have Blake Mitchell and Dominique Douglas playing for their respective teams, but I am not getting off of either game. I wouldn't have bet early if would have thought these were one man teams, that (injury or susp) would be too much of a risk. FSU, USC, and Iowa are all plays that I made based on their defenses, coaching, and line value. One or two players no matter how prominent won't be enough to get me to shift my vantage point. There is no guarantee that the Cajuns will even score and the absence or presence of Blake Mitchell has no impact on that because he obviously isn't a defensive player.
Now if I had SMU and Willis got suspended or Iowa State and Meyer gets injured that would be another matter as those appear to largely be one-man teams and offenses.
Looks like Douglas's suspension is going to of the permanent variety. Apparently, he was caught stealing credit cards and trying to use them in Iowa City. Not too smart. There are rumors that he has done other things to keep himself from being endeared to the folks in IC..to the point wher even rabid iowa fans might be ready to say good riddance.
That's too bad, too, because he was a difference maker, and would have made a nice tandem with Brodell at WR. I remain high on this team ATS this year, but it would have been nice if this kid would've stayed out of trouble.
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Quote Originally Posted by The Garfather:
Just for the record, as I know it will be asked, I would certainly prefer to have Blake Mitchell and Dominique Douglas playing for their respective teams, but I am not getting off of either game. I wouldn't have bet early if would have thought these were one man teams, that (injury or susp) would be too much of a risk. FSU, USC, and Iowa are all plays that I made based on their defenses, coaching, and line value. One or two players no matter how prominent won't be enough to get me to shift my vantage point. There is no guarantee that the Cajuns will even score and the absence or presence of Blake Mitchell has no impact on that because he obviously isn't a defensive player.
Now if I had SMU and Willis got suspended or Iowa State and Meyer gets injured that would be another matter as those appear to largely be one-man teams and offenses.
Looks like Douglas's suspension is going to of the permanent variety. Apparently, he was caught stealing credit cards and trying to use them in Iowa City. Not too smart. There are rumors that he has done other things to keep himself from being endeared to the folks in IC..to the point wher even rabid iowa fans might be ready to say good riddance.
That's too bad, too, because he was a difference maker, and would have made a nice tandem with Brodell at WR. I remain high on this team ATS this year, but it would have been nice if this kid would've stayed out of trouble.
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, anyhow I'm also leaning to Michigan St at this point and I like some of your other thoughts as well, we are certainly on the same page for week one as of now
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