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    hailbrady
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2025 - 2:24 PM ET #276

    @HooAlum

    how is Indiana a low handle and ticket favorite.  They have nearly 3/4 of the handle and 80% of tickets on them?  

     

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    how is Indiana a low handle and ticket favorite.  They have nearly 3/4 of the handle and 80% of tickets on them?  

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2025 - 2:27 PM ET #277

    @HellHook33

     Miami U is also a high handle and ticket favorite.  where are you getting your info?  Also, Penn state should be max 1 or 2 units, they have coaching problems and play on the road against nations no. 1.  you can't put your money at risk like that idc how many signals there are. 

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    @HellHook33

     Miami U is also a high handle and ticket favorite.  where are you getting your info?  Also, Penn state should be max 1 or 2 units, they have coaching problems and play on the road against nations no. 1.  you can't put your money at risk like that idc how many signals there are. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2025 - 3:04 PM ET #278

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     Afternoon games.  Some adjustments but not a lot of action as we are looking at a split decision for the early bigger games of Texas and Miami (though the ESPN Bet -6.5 line is giving me hope in the latter).  Once again the week will live or die in Provo.

    Maryland-Indiana (No Bet): low handle favorite balanced by over/under squeeze

    Texas Tech (3 units): low ticket,  sharp indicators flipped to the Red Raiders (warning this is by the slimmest of margins from flipping back so temper expectations) outweighs home low handle underdog

    CHANGE: Florida (1 unit): sharp indicators outweigh low handle favorite  

    Virginia (2 units): line movement, low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering outweighs Sharp indicator

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     Afternoon games.  Some adjustments but not a lot of action as we are looking at a split decision for the early bigger games of Texas and Miami (though the ESPN Bet -6.5 line is giving me hope in the latter).  Once again the week will live or die in Provo.

    Maryland-Indiana (No Bet): low handle favorite balanced by over/under squeeze

    Texas Tech (3 units): low ticket,  sharp indicators flipped to the Red Raiders (warning this is by the slimmest of margins from flipping back so temper expectations) outweighs home low handle underdog

    CHANGE: Florida (1 unit): sharp indicators outweigh low handle favorite  

    Virginia (2 units): line movement, low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering outweighs Sharp indicator

     
    Daran.T
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2025 - 5:04 PM ET #279

    Down goes the Miami ship! Caned!

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    Down goes the Miami ship! Caned!

     
    HooAlum
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2025 - 6:10 PM ET #280

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     Here we are for the evening.  Bad day overall thanks to the half point loss in Austin.

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     Here we are for the evening.  Bad day overall thanks to the half point loss in Austin.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2025 - 6:33 PM ET #281

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     I don't think anyone saw 21 uanswered in the fourth coming from Vandy. Odd day for defenses. SMU made Miami D look like a high school squad at times in that one. Still no complaints from this corner. Patience is the name of the game as far as I'm concerned. Let's get 'em with TEN, USC and Utah....

    an_horse 

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     I don't think anyone saw 21 uanswered in the fourth coming from Vandy. Odd day for defenses. SMU made Miami D look like a high school squad at times in that one. Still no complaints from this corner. Patience is the name of the game as far as I'm concerned. Let's get 'em with TEN, USC and Utah....

    an_horse 

     
    richieporter
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2025 - 7:30 PM ET #282

    any update on these late ones ? 

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    any update on these late ones ? 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2025 - 1:15 AM ET #283

    Helluva winning day, sir. Thanks for the plays!

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    Helluva winning day, sir. Thanks for the plays!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2025 - 1:12 PM ET #284

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     I just noticed my Saturday evening post did not take, just the opening commentary on the loss in Austin.  I apologize as sometimes when I cut and paste and change things up slightly the edits aren't added.  No big sweeping changes though the unit count went up slightly in Provo but no calls changed.  Still adds up to a down week but Utah really saved the overall week from being slightly down to be REALLY down.  Of course I had already telegraphed that one as the play of the week so people knew to act on it big.  Oh and there was a question what data sources I use.  The questioner likely drew from DK's easily accessible public ticket and handle counts.  They are valuable but only use it as part of a weighted average among several sources, thus DK can have a ticket count of 60% but the overall is 43% (like last week).  I just do not want to put too much emphasis on one data source but that is a reasonable guide if you only want to rely on a single free source.

    WEEKLY RECORD: 7-9

    OVERALL RECORD: 90-64 (58.44%)

    WEEKLY REVENUE: 53.2 units on 57.5 wagered 

    OVERALL REVENUE: 621.5 units on 523.5 wagered (18.72% profit)

    **************

    INDICATOR PERFORMANCE

    West Coast Body Clock: 100%

    Lopsided Wagering: 65.22% (never seen it this high)

    SKS: 65.12%

    Sharp Indicator: 62.59%

    Low Handle Favorite: 56.25%

    Low Bet Favorite: 56.10%

    Bye Week Return: 54.55%

    Steam: 50%

    Line Movement: 50%

    Over/Under Squeeze: 40%

    Reverse Movement: 30.77% (never seen it so low - I am worried that my data sourcing is not good here as it is only the second year using this method)

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    WAY TOO EARLY Weekend analysis (which always seems to boost the favorites)

    Memphis (1 unit): sharp indicator outweighs lopsided wagering

    Indiana (3 units): low ticket favorite, sharp indicators outweigh home underdog with low handle

    Georgia (6 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering

    Texas Tech (4 units): SKS, mild west coast body clock, low handle favorite outweighs sharp indicator and bye week return

    Texas A&M (4 units): low ticket favorite, sharp indicators outweigh home underdog with low handle

    Oregon (7 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, sharp indicators

    Vanderbilt (2 units): sharp indicators

    Virginia (2 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering outweigh sharp indicators

    Alabama (6 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering

    Notre Dame (3 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering outweighs sharp indicators

     

     

     

     

     

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    @HooAlum

     I just noticed my Saturday evening post did not take, just the opening commentary on the loss in Austin.  I apologize as sometimes when I cut and paste and change things up slightly the edits aren't added.  No big sweeping changes though the unit count went up slightly in Provo but no calls changed.  Still adds up to a down week but Utah really saved the overall week from being slightly down to be REALLY down.  Of course I had already telegraphed that one as the play of the week so people knew to act on it big.  Oh and there was a question what data sources I use.  The questioner likely drew from DK's easily accessible public ticket and handle counts.  They are valuable but only use it as part of a weighted average among several sources, thus DK can have a ticket count of 60% but the overall is 43% (like last week).  I just do not want to put too much emphasis on one data source but that is a reasonable guide if you only want to rely on a single free source.

    WEEKLY RECORD: 7-9

    OVERALL RECORD: 90-64 (58.44%)

    WEEKLY REVENUE: 53.2 units on 57.5 wagered 

    OVERALL REVENUE: 621.5 units on 523.5 wagered (18.72% profit)

    **************

    INDICATOR PERFORMANCE

    West Coast Body Clock: 100%

    Lopsided Wagering: 65.22% (never seen it this high)

    SKS: 65.12%

    Sharp Indicator: 62.59%

    Low Handle Favorite: 56.25%

    Low Bet Favorite: 56.10%

    Bye Week Return: 54.55%

    Steam: 50%

    Line Movement: 50%

    Over/Under Squeeze: 40%

    Reverse Movement: 30.77% (never seen it so low - I am worried that my data sourcing is not good here as it is only the second year using this method)

    ***********

    WAY TOO EARLY Weekend analysis (which always seems to boost the favorites)

    Memphis (1 unit): sharp indicator outweighs lopsided wagering

    Indiana (3 units): low ticket favorite, sharp indicators outweigh home underdog with low handle

    Georgia (6 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering

    Texas Tech (4 units): SKS, mild west coast body clock, low handle favorite outweighs sharp indicator and bye week return

    Texas A&M (4 units): low ticket favorite, sharp indicators outweigh home underdog with low handle

    Oregon (7 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, sharp indicators

    Vanderbilt (2 units): sharp indicators

    Virginia (2 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering outweigh sharp indicators

    Alabama (6 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering

    Notre Dame (3 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering outweighs sharp indicators

     

     

     

     

     

     
    Brewmeister
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2025 - 2:11 PM ET #285

    @HooAlum

    Appreciate your efforts Hoo. Looks initially like some decent size plays coming up this week but we'll be tracking lines and awaiting updates.

    an_horse  

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    @HooAlum

    Appreciate your efforts Hoo. Looks initially like some decent size plays coming up this week but we'll be tracking lines and awaiting updates.

    an_horse  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2025 - 6:48 PM ET #286

    @HooAlum

    The minor pasting error is a pimple on an elephant’s ass. I would like to repeat my appreciation for the effort and the time you put into this. THANK YOU an_cheers  peace_5

    Surviving the quiet artillery of time…
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    The minor pasting error is a pimple on an elephant’s ass. I would like to repeat my appreciation for the effort and the time you put into this. THANK YOU an_cheers  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2025 - 11:55 AM ET #287

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    Stabilization in the numbers . Big play looks like eyes on Lubbock early.

    Tulane-Memphis (No bet): sharp indicator balanced by line movement and steam

    Indiana (1 unit): low ticket favorite, sharp indicators outweigh home underdog with low handle and over/under squeeze

    Georgia (5 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement outweighs sharp indicators

    Texas Tech (8 units): SKS, mild west coast body clock, low handle favorite, lopsided wagering, sharp indicators outweigh bye week return

    Texas A&M (1 unit): low ticket favorite outweigh home underdog with low handle

    Oregon (1 unit): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement outweighs sharp indicators

    Vanderbilt (1 unit): sharp indicators

    Wake Forest-Virginia (No Bet): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering balanced by sharp indicators

    Alabama (2 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering balanced by sharp indicators

    Notre Dame (4 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering

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    Stabilization in the numbers . Big play looks like eyes on Lubbock early.

    Tulane-Memphis (No bet): sharp indicator balanced by line movement and steam

    Indiana (1 unit): low ticket favorite, sharp indicators outweigh home underdog with low handle and over/under squeeze

    Georgia (5 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement outweighs sharp indicators

    Texas Tech (8 units): SKS, mild west coast body clock, low handle favorite, lopsided wagering, sharp indicators outweigh bye week return

    Texas A&M (1 unit): low ticket favorite outweigh home underdog with low handle

    Oregon (1 unit): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement outweighs sharp indicators

    Vanderbilt (1 unit): sharp indicators

    Wake Forest-Virginia (No Bet): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering balanced by sharp indicators

    Alabama (2 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering balanced by sharp indicators

    Notre Dame (4 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2025 - 12:50 PM ET #288

    Oregon is not a play in my opinion 

    I think they lose that game outright

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    Oregon is not a play in my opinion 

    I think they lose that game outright

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2025 - 5:26 PM ET #289

    Maybe belaboring the obvious but line movement for Memphis is centered on availability of QB Lewis and word is he is in.

    As usual BOLTA...

    an_horse

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    Maybe belaboring the obvious but line movement for Memphis is centered on availability of QB Lewis and word is he is in.

    As usual BOLTA...

    an_horse

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2025 - 7:48 PM ET #290

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     Tulane (1 unit) - steam and line movement outweigh sharp indicator

    I'll update a very light Saturday slate tonight over the next couple of hours.

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     Tulane (1 unit) - steam and line movement outweigh sharp indicator

    I'll update a very light Saturday slate tonight over the next couple of hours.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2025 - 8:41 PM ET #291

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2025 - 8:42 PM ET #292

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     Here is the Friday Night update for tonight and tomorrow.  I will likely not update until late morning.

    Tulane (1 unit): steam and line movement outweigh sharp indicator

     

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     Here is the Friday Night update for tonight and tomorrow.  I will likely not update until late morning.

    Tulane (1 unit): steam and line movement outweigh sharp indicator

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2025 - 8:43 PM ET #293

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     Here is the Friday Night update for tonight and tomorrow.  I will likely not update until late morning.

    Tulane (1 unit): steam and line movement outweigh sharp indicator

    CHANGE: Penn State (1 unit): sharp indicators outweigh low handle favorite

    Georgia (3 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement outweighs sharp indicators

    Texas Tech (6 units): SKS, mild west coast body clock, sharp indicators outweigh bye week return

    Texas A&M (3 units): low ticket and handle favorite

    Oregon (2 unit): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement outweighs sharp indicators

    Vanderbilt (1 unit): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering outweighs sharp indicators

    Wake Forest (1 unit): sharp indicators outweigh low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering

    Alabama (3 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering outweighs sharp indicators

    Notre Dame (3 units): line movement, low handle favorite, style points

    NEW GAME: Colorado St-UNLV (No Bet): Low handle favorite, lopsided wagering balanced by sharp indicators

     

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    @HooAlum

     

     Here is the Friday Night update for tonight and tomorrow.  I will likely not update until late morning.

    Tulane (1 unit): steam and line movement outweigh sharp indicator

    CHANGE: Penn State (1 unit): sharp indicators outweigh low handle favorite

    Georgia (3 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement outweighs sharp indicators

    Texas Tech (6 units): SKS, mild west coast body clock, sharp indicators outweigh bye week return

    Texas A&M (3 units): low ticket and handle favorite

    Oregon (2 unit): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement outweighs sharp indicators

    Vanderbilt (1 unit): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering outweighs sharp indicators

    Wake Forest (1 unit): sharp indicators outweigh low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering

    Alabama (3 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering outweighs sharp indicators

    Notre Dame (3 units): line movement, low handle favorite, style points

    NEW GAME: Colorado St-UNLV (No Bet): Low handle favorite, lopsided wagering balanced by sharp indicators

     

     
    HooAlum
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2025 - 10:51 AM ET #294

    @HooAlum

    Here is the morning update.  A couple of additions out of the Big XII to the slate.  Lubbock is still the play and even has an increasing line that you may want to catch before it goes further

    Penn State (1 unit): sharp indicators outweigh low handle favorite

    Georgia (2 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement outweighs sharp indicators

    Texas Tech (7 units): line movement, SKS, mild west coast body clock, sharp indicators outweigh bye week return

    NEW GAME: Iowa St-TCU (No Bet): line movement, low handle favorite, lopsided wagering, bye week return outweighs sharp indicators 

    Texas A&M (4 units): low ticket favorite, sharp indicators

    Iowa-Oregon (No Bet): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement balanced by sharp indicators

    NEW GAME: Arizona (1 unit): low ticket and handle favorite outweighs sharp indicators

    Vanderbilt (2 unit): low ticket favorite

    Wake Forest (1 unit): sharp indicators outweigh low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering

    Alabama (4 units): low ticket and handle favorite, sharp indicators

    Notre Dame (4 units): line movement, low handle favorite, lopsided wagering, style points

    Colorado St-UNLV (No Bet): No Indicators

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    @HooAlum

    Here is the morning update.  A couple of additions out of the Big XII to the slate.  Lubbock is still the play and even has an increasing line that you may want to catch before it goes further

    Penn State (1 unit): sharp indicators outweigh low handle favorite

    Georgia (2 units): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement outweighs sharp indicators

    Texas Tech (7 units): line movement, SKS, mild west coast body clock, sharp indicators outweigh bye week return

    NEW GAME: Iowa St-TCU (No Bet): line movement, low handle favorite, lopsided wagering, bye week return outweighs sharp indicators 

    Texas A&M (4 units): low ticket favorite, sharp indicators

    Iowa-Oregon (No Bet): low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering, reverse movement balanced by sharp indicators

    NEW GAME: Arizona (1 unit): low ticket and handle favorite outweighs sharp indicators

    Vanderbilt (2 unit): low ticket favorite

    Wake Forest (1 unit): sharp indicators outweigh low ticket and handle favorite, lopsided wagering

    Alabama (4 units): low ticket and handle favorite, sharp indicators

    Notre Dame (4 units): line movement, low handle favorite, lopsided wagering, style points

    Colorado St-UNLV (No Bet): No Indicators

     
    DonnieSims
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2025 - 11:10 AM ET #295

    @HooAlum

    Are these all spread plays or ML?

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    @HooAlum

    Are these all spread plays or ML?

     
    Boisestateand8
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2025 - 11:15 AM ET #296

    @DonnieSims

     Spread.

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    @DonnieSims

     Spread.

     
    Luckybastard1
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2025 - 11:25 AM ET #297

    Good luck today chief. Tailing a couple. 

    -bastard

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    Good luck today chief. Tailing a couple. 

    -bastard

     
    hailbrady
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2025 - 11:34 AM ET #298

    @DonnieSims

     its ML man, take the ML and hammer it for asking such a stupid question

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    @DonnieSims

     its ML man, take the ML and hammer it for asking such a stupid question

     
    Spyder_Man
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2025 - 11:35 AM ET #299

    @hailbrady

     Its the spread

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    @hailbrady

     Its the spread

     
     
    hailbrady
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2025 - 12:20 PM ET #300

    @Spyder_Man

     I am fully aware it's spread.  But asking if this is ML or spread is such a stupid question.  

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    @Spyder_Man

     I am fully aware it's spread.  But asking if this is ML or spread is such a stupid question.  

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