Houston is 2-10 ATS under Kevin Sumlin as a road fav. One of those wins was against Memphis.
UNT was 2-2 ATS as a home dog last year, but they have a new coaching staff.
North Texas' last two games as a home dog were a 41-35 loss to Troy and a 49-41 loss to K-State. Both over and cover. Their last four covers as a home dog have gone over 60 (the last two over 75).
Eight of Houston's last nine failures to cover as a road fav have gone over 60 points, and seven have gone over 65.
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As I continue to research this:
Houston is 2-10 ATS under Kevin Sumlin as a road fav. One of those wins was against Memphis.
UNT was 2-2 ATS as a home dog last year, but they have a new coaching staff.
North Texas' last two games as a home dog were a 41-35 loss to Troy and a 49-41 loss to K-State. Both over and cover. Their last four covers as a home dog have gone over 60 (the last two over 75).
Eight of Houston's last nine failures to cover as a road fav have gone over 60 points, and seven have gone over 65.
I CAN'T TAKE A PUSH GIVE ME ONE MORE POST NO MONEY. I am sure you have some idiotic comment to post. I will make another bet; once nomoney has a losing week which will happen probably this week he will be GONE LIKE DONKEY KONG.
not gonna be gone fuckface,
i post my record every week and links to my documented plays
guys like you who dont keep a record and throw your money on garbage teams will more than likely be gone.
why dont you just stop criticizing a guy who has posted some winning wagers and just post some fucking picks....
let your capping do the talking instead of whatever blasphemy is coming out of ur mouth right now.
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Quote Originally Posted by Handicapper33:
I CAN'T TAKE A PUSH GIVE ME ONE MORE POST NO MONEY. I am sure you have some idiotic comment to post. I will make another bet; once nomoney has a losing week which will happen probably this week he will be GONE LIKE DONKEY KONG.
not gonna be gone fuckface,
i post my record every week and links to my documented plays
guys like you who dont keep a record and throw your money on garbage teams will more than likely be gone.
why dont you just stop criticizing a guy who has posted some winning wagers and just post some fucking picks....
let your capping do the talking instead of whatever blasphemy is coming out of ur mouth right now.
I'm just doing my homework. Everything I see is pointing to the UNT and the over. I think I like the over better--I'm just deciding on whether to play both or not. Whichever I choose, I'm back and forth enough that I'll be kicking myself plenty if it's the wrong choice.
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I'm just doing my homework. Everything I see is pointing to the UNT and the over. I think I like the over better--I'm just deciding on whether to play both or not. Whichever I choose, I'm back and forth enough that I'll be kicking myself plenty if it's the wrong choice.
I will not try to predict how many points Houston will score, or what is the score Houston players have on their minds going into this game. I will give you a few very solid reasons to explain why I think that North Texas is the best best so far this season.
NORTH TEXAS +22
Duhhh!!!! Houston 55 North Texas 20...Can u say blowout !!
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Quote Originally Posted by thebetfather:
I will not try to predict how many points Houston will score, or what is the score Houston players have on their minds going into this game. I will give you a few very solid reasons to explain why I think that North Texas is the best best so far this season.
NORTH TEXAS +22
Duhhh!!!! Houston 55 North Texas 20...Can u say blowout !!
good reading for the morning commute, but I got to side with J D money on this. After all he challenges the logic of the pick which is what the forum should be. Not name calling and insults
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good reading for the morning commute, but I got to side with J D money on this. After all he challenges the logic of the pick which is what the forum should be. Not name calling and insults
good reading for the morning commute, but I got to side with J D money on this. After all he challenges the logic of the pick which is what the forum should be. Not name calling and insults
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good reading for the morning commute, but I got to side with J D money on this. After all he challenges the logic of the pick which is what the forum should be. Not name calling and insults
good reading for the morning commute, but I got to side with J D money on this. After all he challenges the logic of the pick which is what the forum should be. Not name calling and insults
agreed
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Quote Originally Posted by chef702:
good reading for the morning commute, but I got to side with J D money on this. After all he challenges the logic of the pick which is what the forum should be. Not name calling and insults
I know that many will tell me that Houston can name the score against NTX, that Houston is very good and North Texas is very bad, that Houston can score 50+, 60+ against North Texas, that Houston will beat the total by themselves, and so on and so on.
But thats just square thinking. If you think that Houston will easily cover against North Texas, then you are definately not alone. At least 90% of people think the same way.
I will not try to predict how many points Houston will score, or what is the score Houston players have on their minds going into this game. I will give you a few very solid reasons to explain why I think that North Texas is the best best so far this season.
1) There is something about Houston as road chalk in first 4 weeks of season as long as not off of their bye week. They are 0-10 ATS in this situation, losing against the spread by about 20 ppg in those 10 games. And they are not only losing against the spread, but they are also losing those games outright. Last season they lost at UCLA in this very same spot, the year before that they lost by 17 at UTEP as 15 pts chalk, and in 2008 they lost as road chalk at Colorado State. One year later they were a 2 TD fave in this same situation at Rice and they won by only 1 pt.
2)To be able to cover as favorite on the road, a team needs to have a defense. Houston is a bad defensive team in last 4 years and so far this season it looks like nothing is going to change. They allowed 34 pts against UCLA who moved the ball at will both passing and rushing. UCLA rushed for 232 yards (5.5 yards per carry) and passed for 322 yards on 20/29, passing for over 11 yards per passing play. Keep in mind that Houston scored a TD off of a UCLA fumble. UCLA also had 10 penalties, many of those very costly. UCLA stil managed to acumulate 554 yards on offense keeping the ball for 34 minutes in that game.
3) North Texas is a bad football team, but when they lose at home, they usually lose in a close game. 9 of their last 12 losses at home were by single digits. In the meantime, 12 of their last 15 road losses were by double digits, mostly by 3 touchdowns or more. So, in conclusion, North Texas is taugher to beat at home, by a large margin. With this being their first game ever in their new ballpark, I expect them to be more agressive, to be more pumped up then ever, and to play hard regardless by how many they trail in that game.
4) North Texas had no offense what so ever against FIU but stil scored 16 pts @ FIU last week. They were opportunistic on defense bringing two fumbles for TDs and forcing a safety. Houston defense is not a good one and North Texas will be able to put up points on the scoreboard offensively. North Texas has a good RB and solid special unit guys and that is exactly what is needed against a team like Houston. Houston will score its share of points but they will not cover this huge line.
NORTH TEXAS +22
AND Good luck with that. Houston has a QB that didn't...let's say...light it up vs.UCRA. This guy has something to prove and you're +22 isn't going to make it my friend. But GL though.
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Quote Originally Posted by thebetfather:
I know that many will tell me that Houston can name the score against NTX, that Houston is very good and North Texas is very bad, that Houston can score 50+, 60+ against North Texas, that Houston will beat the total by themselves, and so on and so on.
But thats just square thinking. If you think that Houston will easily cover against North Texas, then you are definately not alone. At least 90% of people think the same way.
I will not try to predict how many points Houston will score, or what is the score Houston players have on their minds going into this game. I will give you a few very solid reasons to explain why I think that North Texas is the best best so far this season.
1) There is something about Houston as road chalk in first 4 weeks of season as long as not off of their bye week. They are 0-10 ATS in this situation, losing against the spread by about 20 ppg in those 10 games. And they are not only losing against the spread, but they are also losing those games outright. Last season they lost at UCLA in this very same spot, the year before that they lost by 17 at UTEP as 15 pts chalk, and in 2008 they lost as road chalk at Colorado State. One year later they were a 2 TD fave in this same situation at Rice and they won by only 1 pt.
2)To be able to cover as favorite on the road, a team needs to have a defense. Houston is a bad defensive team in last 4 years and so far this season it looks like nothing is going to change. They allowed 34 pts against UCLA who moved the ball at will both passing and rushing. UCLA rushed for 232 yards (5.5 yards per carry) and passed for 322 yards on 20/29, passing for over 11 yards per passing play. Keep in mind that Houston scored a TD off of a UCLA fumble. UCLA also had 10 penalties, many of those very costly. UCLA stil managed to acumulate 554 yards on offense keeping the ball for 34 minutes in that game.
3) North Texas is a bad football team, but when they lose at home, they usually lose in a close game. 9 of their last 12 losses at home were by single digits. In the meantime, 12 of their last 15 road losses were by double digits, mostly by 3 touchdowns or more. So, in conclusion, North Texas is taugher to beat at home, by a large margin. With this being their first game ever in their new ballpark, I expect them to be more agressive, to be more pumped up then ever, and to play hard regardless by how many they trail in that game.
4) North Texas had no offense what so ever against FIU but stil scored 16 pts @ FIU last week. They were opportunistic on defense bringing two fumbles for TDs and forcing a safety. Houston defense is not a good one and North Texas will be able to put up points on the scoreboard offensively. North Texas has a good RB and solid special unit guys and that is exactly what is needed against a team like Houston. Houston will score its share of points but they will not cover this huge line.
NORTH TEXAS +22
AND Good luck with that. Houston has a QB that didn't...let's say...light it up vs.UCRA. This guy has something to prove and you're +22 isn't going to make it my friend. But GL though.
Sorry....don't mean to be an ass but I have followed these sorry ass Coogroes for a while and Keenum only threw for 1 TD last time out. He has an opening this weekend and IMO....is ready to "light it up". Be aware is all I'm saying. GL
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Sorry....don't mean to be an ass but I have followed these sorry ass Coogroes for a while and Keenum only threw for 1 TD last time out. He has an opening this weekend and IMO....is ready to "light it up". Be aware is all I'm saying. GL
Exactly what I anticipated. People who like Houston will start telling me that Houston will score 40, 50...That North Texas is the worst team in football and so on. Bloodbath about to happen.
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Exactly what I anticipated. People who like Houston will start telling me that Houston will score 40, 50...That North Texas is the worst team in football and so on. Bloodbath about to happen.
Exactly what I anticipated. People who like Houston will start telling me that Houston will score 40, 50...That North Texas is the worst team in football and so on. Bloodbath about to happen.
instead of anticipating it, can you just explain why a team that had 0 points offensively last week is going to cover vs. houston?
just seems like if Houston scores 5 TD's (very probable) that UNT will struggle to cover this...just tell us what you know or what you think...
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Quote Originally Posted by thebetfather:
Exactly what I anticipated. People who like Houston will start telling me that Houston will score 40, 50...That North Texas is the worst team in football and so on. Bloodbath about to happen.
instead of anticipating it, can you just explain why a team that had 0 points offensively last week is going to cover vs. houston?
just seems like if Houston scores 5 TD's (very probable) that UNT will struggle to cover this...just tell us what you know or what you think...
instead of anticipating it, can you just explain why a team that had 0 points offensively last week is going to cover vs. houston?
just seems like if Houston scores 5 TD's (very probable) that UNT will struggle to cover this...just tell us what you know or what you think...
Gave you 4 valid points in my opening post. Its not all about numbers. Its not all about offense. Houston can score 40+ and stil not cover. They are 2-8-1 ATS in last 3 years as road chalk. Heck, they even lost outright as road chalk twice while scoring 40+. Why is that ? Because they play no defense. And when you play no defense, everyone will score on you. Why is it so hard to understand ? Even in their best season in recent history (2009) they were 1-5 ATS when favored away from their home field. Why ? Because they played no defense. They allowed 40 ppg in those 6 games. 2008 wasnt bad for them either, right? Guess what, they were 1-5 ATS as faves awair from their home field that year too. Why ? Because they allowed 36.5 ppg in those 6 games. There are some unwritten rules in football my friend. One of them is dont lay pts with a road team that plays no defense. Last year their defense was ranked #96. The year before that #88. And so on. Do you stil want to know how North Texas will score points on them ? One thing is sure. If NTX doesnt cover, I will be back to tell everyone that I was wrong. The problem is, if NTX does cover, I am not sure that you will come back here to tell me that you were wrong. Good luck.
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Quote Originally Posted by jdnmoney:
instead of anticipating it, can you just explain why a team that had 0 points offensively last week is going to cover vs. houston?
just seems like if Houston scores 5 TD's (very probable) that UNT will struggle to cover this...just tell us what you know or what you think...
Gave you 4 valid points in my opening post. Its not all about numbers. Its not all about offense. Houston can score 40+ and stil not cover. They are 2-8-1 ATS in last 3 years as road chalk. Heck, they even lost outright as road chalk twice while scoring 40+. Why is that ? Because they play no defense. And when you play no defense, everyone will score on you. Why is it so hard to understand ? Even in their best season in recent history (2009) they were 1-5 ATS when favored away from their home field. Why ? Because they played no defense. They allowed 40 ppg in those 6 games. 2008 wasnt bad for them either, right? Guess what, they were 1-5 ATS as faves awair from their home field that year too. Why ? Because they allowed 36.5 ppg in those 6 games. There are some unwritten rules in football my friend. One of them is dont lay pts with a road team that plays no defense. Last year their defense was ranked #96. The year before that #88. And so on. Do you stil want to know how North Texas will score points on them ? One thing is sure. If NTX doesnt cover, I will be back to tell everyone that I was wrong. The problem is, if NTX does cover, I am not sure that you will come back here to tell me that you were wrong. Good luck.
Gave you 4 valid points in my opening post. Its not all about numbers. Its not all about offense. Houston can score 40+ and stil not cover. They are 2-8-1 ATS in last 3 years as road chalk. Heck, they even lost outright as road chalk twice while scoring 40+. Why is that ? Because they play no defense. And when you play no defense, everyone will score on you. Why is it so hard to understand ? Even in their best season in recent history (2009) they were 1-5 ATS when favored away from their home field. Why ? Because they played no defense. They allowed 40 ppg in those 6 games. 2008 wasnt bad for them either, right? Guess what, they were 1-5 ATS as faves awair from their home field that year too. Why ? Because they allowed 36.5 ppg in those 6 games. There are some unwritten rules in football my friend. One of them is dont lay pts with a road team that plays no defense. Last year their defense was ranked #96. The year before that #88. And so on. Do you stil want to know how North Texas will score points on them ? One thing is sure. If NTX doesnt cover, I will be back to tell everyone that I was wrong. The problem is, if NTX does cover, I am not sure that you will come back here to tell me that you were wrong. Good luck.
I dont have a play on houston, I actually am playing the over which is at 64...
again guy, i wasnt refuting what you said, just wanted some reasoning behind it...and you have some if HOU is 2-10 ATS as road chalk and allow a hell of alot of points...
thats all i was looking for...just wondering what the reasoning was
best of luck to you guy. and i will tell you one thing, i cant come back to tell you i was wrong if UNT does cover, because i dont have a play on that game...and i never said YOU were wrong either...
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Quote Originally Posted by thebetfather:
Gave you 4 valid points in my opening post. Its not all about numbers. Its not all about offense. Houston can score 40+ and stil not cover. They are 2-8-1 ATS in last 3 years as road chalk. Heck, they even lost outright as road chalk twice while scoring 40+. Why is that ? Because they play no defense. And when you play no defense, everyone will score on you. Why is it so hard to understand ? Even in their best season in recent history (2009) they were 1-5 ATS when favored away from their home field. Why ? Because they played no defense. They allowed 40 ppg in those 6 games. 2008 wasnt bad for them either, right? Guess what, they were 1-5 ATS as faves awair from their home field that year too. Why ? Because they allowed 36.5 ppg in those 6 games. There are some unwritten rules in football my friend. One of them is dont lay pts with a road team that plays no defense. Last year their defense was ranked #96. The year before that #88. And so on. Do you stil want to know how North Texas will score points on them ? One thing is sure. If NTX doesnt cover, I will be back to tell everyone that I was wrong. The problem is, if NTX does cover, I am not sure that you will come back here to tell me that you were wrong. Good luck.
I dont have a play on houston, I actually am playing the over which is at 64...
again guy, i wasnt refuting what you said, just wanted some reasoning behind it...and you have some if HOU is 2-10 ATS as road chalk and allow a hell of alot of points...
thats all i was looking for...just wondering what the reasoning was
best of luck to you guy. and i will tell you one thing, i cant come back to tell you i was wrong if UNT does cover, because i dont have a play on that game...and i never said YOU were wrong either...
This nomoney guy is the ABSOLUTE CLASSIC DOUCHEBAG; anyone with a brain knows that the guy is totally full of himself and says he is not being a jerk coming into SOMEONE ELSE'S THREAD to post 2 posts DOGGING HIS PICK; if you don't like it say I am on the other side or don't say anything. Whats hilarious is he keeps talking about Houston this and how NT can't score blah blah blah but won't put a play on Houston because if he does and Houston doesn't cover than he knows he looks like a total jackass which is already is. Its like why post all this crap about how NT is a horrible play and then not play the other side. ANSWER: HE IS A box. Houston Defense is AWFUL and Dunbar is a great RB; I look for play against teams like Memphis, Marshall and NT but in the right spots. This game is a tossup. Its not like playing over 3 td favs on the road is a GREAT SPOT. LOOK AT HIS LAST STATEMENT:best of luck to you guy. and i will tell you one thing, i cant come back to tell you i was wrong if UNT does cover, because i dont have a play on that game...and i never said YOU were wrong either...
Can you say I want to have it both ways??? I want to come in your thread saying NT is a garbage pick then say but I would never play Houston even though everything coming out of my mouth says Houston but I like the over. What a freakin joke? Go get some spelling lesson nomoney and stay out of peoples thread. If you dont like a play just dont say anything. The only thing you are an expert on is not being able to spell and acting like a child. You are probably checking this thread over and over and over and over and over and over. SO FREAKING SAD BABY.
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This nomoney guy is the ABSOLUTE CLASSIC DOUCHEBAG; anyone with a brain knows that the guy is totally full of himself and says he is not being a jerk coming into SOMEONE ELSE'S THREAD to post 2 posts DOGGING HIS PICK; if you don't like it say I am on the other side or don't say anything. Whats hilarious is he keeps talking about Houston this and how NT can't score blah blah blah but won't put a play on Houston because if he does and Houston doesn't cover than he knows he looks like a total jackass which is already is. Its like why post all this crap about how NT is a horrible play and then not play the other side. ANSWER: HE IS A box. Houston Defense is AWFUL and Dunbar is a great RB; I look for play against teams like Memphis, Marshall and NT but in the right spots. This game is a tossup. Its not like playing over 3 td favs on the road is a GREAT SPOT. LOOK AT HIS LAST STATEMENT:best of luck to you guy. and i will tell you one thing, i cant come back to tell you i was wrong if UNT does cover, because i dont have a play on that game...and i never said YOU were wrong either...
Can you say I want to have it both ways??? I want to come in your thread saying NT is a garbage pick then say but I would never play Houston even though everything coming out of my mouth says Houston but I like the over. What a freakin joke? Go get some spelling lesson nomoney and stay out of peoples thread. If you dont like a play just dont say anything. The only thing you are an expert on is not being able to spell and acting like a child. You are probably checking this thread over and over and over and over and over and over. SO FREAKING SAD BABY.
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