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    Jose_Reyes
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 9:59 PM ET #127

    This was a numbers only argument as to why I am staying away from BC.....Not on NI either but just saw a potential covers blood bath.

    I am staying away from Wash. ST in week one because of a Mike Leach trend that indicates he treats early NON-CONF games as exhibition games.

    I do not focus in on match-up and numbers only...

    I just was not sure why you have signaled me out on more than one occasion directly when I never questioned your capping philosophies...Never disrespected you... In fact I have followed your recent posts because I am intrigued by your style......

    I am normally a conflict free person here, well maybe not when it comes to politics......

    Anyway I do not hold grudges and I look forward to your plays...Good luck.






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    This was a numbers only argument as to why I am staying away from BC.....Not on NI either but just saw a potential covers blood bath.

    I am staying away from Wash. ST in week one because of a Mike Leach trend that indicates he treats early NON-CONF games as exhibition games.

    I do not focus in on match-up and numbers only...

    I just was not sure why you have signaled me out on more than one occasion directly when I never questioned your capping philosophies...Never disrespected you... In fact I have followed your recent posts because I am intrigued by your style......

    I am normally a conflict free person here, well maybe not when it comes to politics......

    Anyway I do not hold grudges and I look forward to your plays...Good luck.






     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 10:04 PM ET #128

    Quote Originally Posted by TD21:

      I somehow refrained from responding to that thread.  Damn busy.....  but similar sentiments on that original BC / NIU thread.   

    But don't worry, the magazine that this info came from is in Lake Michigan.  There's a thread about that.

    Pretty important to see how BC (well, any team) performed against whom...  big difference vs. just raw #s with no context.


    No, the magazine in Lake Michigan did not offer hardly any INFO at all......Thats why its in the lake...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TD21:

      I somehow refrained from responding to that thread.  Damn busy.....  but similar sentiments on that original BC / NIU thread.   

    But don't worry, the magazine that this info came from is in Lake Michigan.  There's a thread about that.

    Pretty important to see how BC (well, any team) performed against whom...  big difference vs. just raw #s with no context.


    No, the magazine in Lake Michigan did not offer hardly any INFO at all......Thats why its in the lake...

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2017 - 1:25 AM ET #129

    Here's me.......trying to get (some) of you guys ....'motivated'
      * esp that...."I'm not here to fuk around....now you MAY be....but I'm NOT"................
       
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMVmhI1SUq0

      *   ballsy SOB that recorded that wow.....


     
    Forgot about the great Ed Feng.....maybe the best set of numbers currently available.......FCS as well
      
    https://thepowerrank.com/college-football/bowl-subdivision-rankings/

    https://thepowerrank.com/college-football/championship-subdivision-rankings/


    Here's his B12 numbers....

    OU      100
    TCU      92
    OSU      90
    TX         89
    BAY      89
    KSU      88
    WV       85
    TT!       85
    ISU      80
    KU       72 

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    Here's me.......trying to get (some) of you guys ....'motivated'
      * esp that...."I'm not here to fuk around....now you MAY be....but I'm NOT"................
       
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMVmhI1SUq0

      *   ballsy SOB that recorded that wow.....


     
    Forgot about the great Ed Feng.....maybe the best set of numbers currently available.......FCS as well
      
    https://thepowerrank.com/college-football/bowl-subdivision-rankings/

    https://thepowerrank.com/college-football/championship-subdivision-rankings/


    Here's his B12 numbers....

    OU      100
    TCU      92
    OSU      90
    TX         89
    BAY      89
    KSU      88
    WV       85
    TT!       85
    ISU      80
    KU       72 

     
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    Can you please except my friend request ???
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    Can you please except my friend request ???
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2017 - 12:43 PM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    Here's me.......trying to get (some) of you guys ....'motivated'
      * esp that...."I'm not here to fuk around....now you MAY be....but I'm NOT"................
       
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMVmhI1SUq0

      *   ballsy SOB that recorded that wow.....




    Forgot about the great Ed Feng.....maybe the best set of numbers currently available.......FCS as well
      
    https://thepowerrank.com/college-football/bowl-subdivision-rankings/

    https://thepowerrank.com/college-football/championship-subdivision-rankings/


    Here's his B12 numbers....

    OU      100
    TCU      92
    OSU      90
    TX         89
    BAY      89
    KSU      88
    WV       85
    TT!       85
    ISU      80
    KU       72 






    BA--happy to be in your company for another exciting year of CFB!  Loving how you approach this with some professionalism and without doubt keeping your insights as a must read each week.  Looking forward to it my man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    Here's me.......trying to get (some) of you guys ....'motivated'
      * esp that...."I'm not here to fuk around....now you MAY be....but I'm NOT"................
       
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMVmhI1SUq0

      *   ballsy SOB that recorded that wow.....




    Forgot about the great Ed Feng.....maybe the best set of numbers currently available.......FCS as well
      
    https://thepowerrank.com/college-football/bowl-subdivision-rankings/

    https://thepowerrank.com/college-football/championship-subdivision-rankings/


    Here's his B12 numbers....

    OU      100
    TCU      92
    OSU      90
    TX         89
    BAY      89
    KSU      88
    WV       85
    TT!       85
    ISU      80
    KU       72 






    BA--happy to be in your company for another exciting year of CFB!  Loving how you approach this with some professionalism and without doubt keeping your insights as a must read each week.  Looking forward to it my man!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2017 - 1:21 PM ET #132

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMed:

    This was a numbers only argument as to why I am staying away from BC.....Not on NI either but just saw a potential covers blood bath.

    I am staying away from Wash. ST in week one because of a Mike Leach trend that indicates he treats early NON-CONF games as exhibition games.

    I do not focus in on match-up and numbers only...

    I just was not sure why you have signaled me out on more than one occasion directly when I never questioned your capping philosophies...Never disrespected you... In fact I have followed your recent posts because I am intrigued by your style......

    I am normally a conflict free person here, well maybe not when it comes to politics......

    Anyway I do not hold grudges and I look forward to your plays...Good luck.








    IS IT.......ME singling you out.............OR......you singling yourself out?.....................................

    BEHOLD.......... the # of threads started......Mayweather....OJ..... bunch more

    IF we had a contest.........................................
      * yes my cruelty knows no bounds

    WHO is the 2017 version of Vegas Jason......'ultimate recreational capping GADFLY' ?........who would win?.......little Rickey?.....the insane/ heavily medicated  Walter Tibbs?........
      * I like your chances.....is what I'm sayin'.............
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMed:

    This was a numbers only argument as to why I am staying away from BC.....Not on NI either but just saw a potential covers blood bath.

    I am staying away from Wash. ST in week one because of a Mike Leach trend that indicates he treats early NON-CONF games as exhibition games.

    I do not focus in on match-up and numbers only...

    I just was not sure why you have signaled me out on more than one occasion directly when I never questioned your capping philosophies...Never disrespected you... In fact I have followed your recent posts because I am intrigued by your style......

    I am normally a conflict free person here, well maybe not when it comes to politics......

    Anyway I do not hold grudges and I look forward to your plays...Good luck.








    IS IT.......ME singling you out.............OR......you singling yourself out?.....................................

    BEHOLD.......... the # of threads started......Mayweather....OJ..... bunch more

    IF we had a contest.........................................
      * yes my cruelty knows no bounds

    WHO is the 2017 version of Vegas Jason......'ultimate recreational capping GADFLY' ?........who would win?.......little Rickey?.....the insane/ heavily medicated  Walter Tibbs?........
      * I like your chances.....is what I'm sayin'.............
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:



    IS IT.......ME singling you out.............OR......you singling yourself out?.....................................

    BEHOLD.......... the # of threads started......Mayweather....OJ..... bunch more

    IF we had a contest.........................................
      * yes my cruelty knows no bounds

    WHO is the 2017 version of Vegas Jason......'ultimate recreational capping GADFLY' ?........who would win?.......little Rickey?.....the insane/ heavily medicated  Walter Tibbs?........
      * I like your chances.....is what I'm sayin'.............



    You need to take your comic show on the road as you will be selling the venues out! I thought I was harsh at times, but you are KING, #1!
    Love this side of your personality old man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:



    IS IT.......ME singling you out.............OR......you singling yourself out?.....................................

    BEHOLD.......... the # of threads started......Mayweather....OJ..... bunch more

    IF we had a contest.........................................
      * yes my cruelty knows no bounds

    WHO is the 2017 version of Vegas Jason......'ultimate recreational capping GADFLY' ?........who would win?.......little Rickey?.....the insane/ heavily medicated  Walter Tibbs?........
      * I like your chances.....is what I'm sayin'.............



    You need to take your comic show on the road as you will be selling the venues out! I thought I was harsh at times, but you are KING, #1!
    Love this side of your personality old man!

     
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    To have your friend request accepted you need to make a donation to bookieassassins "Covers Emotionally And Mentally Disturbed Foundation" that is used to support the mental health and well being of the likes of Walter Tibbs, among many others, he has tried to mentor without success here on the forum. His great foundation provides intense mental health therapy and long term treatment.
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    To have your friend request accepted you need to make a donation to bookieassassins "Covers Emotionally And Mentally Disturbed Foundation" that is used to support the mental health and well being of the likes of Walter Tibbs, among many others, he has tried to mentor without success here on the forum. His great foundation provides intense mental health therapy and long term treatment.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2017 - 1:10 PM ET #136

    I think it's Boston College not BYU & Colarado St+8.5 was for their 2nd game against Colorado. There are 5 games on August 26th. Oregon St is a play against Colorado St on August 26th. I'll call that pre week 1.

    So Oregon St is the only play he has for August 26th. Rest of the plays are for the real week 1. A lot of books don't have Colorado St line up for their 2nd game. Likely have to wait until after they play Oregon St. 


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    I think it's Boston College not BYU & Colarado St+8.5 was for their 2nd game against Colorado. There are 5 games on August 26th. Oregon St is a play against Colorado St on August 26th. I'll call that pre week 1.

    So Oregon St is the only play he has for August 26th. Rest of the plays are for the real week 1. A lot of books don't have Colorado St line up for their 2nd game. Likely have to wait until after they play Oregon St. 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife:




    You need to take your comic show on the road as you will be selling the venues out! I thought I was harsh at times, but you are KING, #1!
    Love this side of your personality old man!


    your boy BigDaddy is the undisputed KING......we all just hope to approach his greatness............
      * no death threats?.....I'm a pusssy in comparison


    Whaddya expect................

    I buy these boys school supplies.....school clothes.....take 'em for a haircut (barber shop only).....even a limo for 1st day of school....
      * all they do is complain / whine.......I turn around?.... they're looking at me cross eyed / drooling....eating the covers off their books wtf ?......sometimes you gotta smack 'em.....or break out the ol'..... CAPTIVE BOLT GUN......for 'special' cases................ 
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    You need to take your comic show on the road as you will be selling the venues out! I thought I was harsh at times, but you are KING, #1!
    Love this side of your personality old man!


    your boy BigDaddy is the undisputed KING......we all just hope to approach his greatness............
      * no death threats?.....I'm a pusssy in comparison


    Whaddya expect................

    I buy these boys school supplies.....school clothes.....take 'em for a haircut (barber shop only).....even a limo for 1st day of school....
      * all they do is complain / whine.......I turn around?.... they're looking at me cross eyed / drooling....eating the covers off their books wtf ?......sometimes you gotta smack 'em.....or break out the ol'..... CAPTIVE BOLT GUN......for 'special' cases................ 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:


    your boy BigDaddy is the undisputed KING......we all just hope to approach his greatness............
      * no death threats?.....I'm a pusssy in comparison


    Whaddya expect................

    I buy these boys school supplies.....school clothes.....take 'em for a haircut (barber shop only).....even a limo for 1st day of school....
      * all they do is complain / whine.......I turn around?.... they're looking at me cross eyed / drooling....eating the covers off their books wtf ?......sometimes you gotta smack 'em.....or break out the ol'..... CAPTIVE BOLT GUN......for 'special' cases................ 


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    your boy BigDaddy is the undisputed KING......we all just hope to approach his greatness............
      * no death threats?.....I'm a pusssy in comparison


    Whaddya expect................

    I buy these boys school supplies.....school clothes.....take 'em for a haircut (barber shop only).....even a limo for 1st day of school....
      * all they do is complain / whine.......I turn around?.... they're looking at me cross eyed / drooling....eating the covers off their books wtf ?......sometimes you gotta smack 'em.....or break out the ol'..... CAPTIVE BOLT GUN......for 'special' cases................ 


     
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    BA,    Nice that you mentioned getting all panicky off a bad week.  I get panicky and have remorse before the weeks games.  I'm nervous now.  Nervous and scared make it fun. Tension and fear of losing are the pay off.

    I agree with what your saying about just blowing a bad week and if there are good plays aplenty the next week then you must for sure play those solid games. How do you win if you don't play??

    Anyway,  breaking even or having a small loss in a week is a win. I've done this for 16 years on line and my whole life before that. I seldom lose but if I regressed back to the so called norm I'd be back next year for sure.  It's fun.

    Stay Hard,    Doc


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    BA,    Nice that you mentioned getting all panicky off a bad week.  I get panicky and have remorse before the weeks games.  I'm nervous now.  Nervous and scared make it fun. Tension and fear of losing are the pay off.

    I agree with what your saying about just blowing a bad week and if there are good plays aplenty the next week then you must for sure play those solid games. How do you win if you don't play??

    Anyway,  breaking even or having a small loss in a week is a win. I've done this for 16 years on line and my whole life before that. I seldom lose but if I regressed back to the so called norm I'd be back next year for sure.  It's fun.

    Stay Hard,    Doc


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:


    your boy BigDaddy is the undisputed KING......we all just hope to approach his greatness............
      * no death threats?.....I'm a pusssy in comparison


    Whaddya expect................

    I buy these boys school supplies.....school clothes.....take 'em for a haircut (barber shop only).....even a limo for 1st day of school....
      * all they do is complain / whine.......I turn around?.... they're looking at me cross eyed / drooling....eating the covers off their books wtf ?......sometimes you gotta smack 'em.....or break out the ol'..... CAPTIVE BOLT GUN......for 'special' cases................ 


    You are my friend the total package, and the best of the best, with your expertise and humor, and the timing of your comments. As stated in my posting yesterday, you actually could have made a career out of comedy. #1

    I have not looked at what is being said across the street in a very long time, so I am going to take a look now. I am sure I will get a good laugh, but not as good a laugh as I get coming to bookieassassins comedy gallery.
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    your boy BigDaddy is the undisputed KING......we all just hope to approach his greatness............
      * no death threats?.....I'm a pusssy in comparison


    Whaddya expect................

    I buy these boys school supplies.....school clothes.....take 'em for a haircut (barber shop only).....even a limo for 1st day of school....
      * all they do is complain / whine.......I turn around?.... they're looking at me cross eyed / drooling....eating the covers off their books wtf ?......sometimes you gotta smack 'em.....or break out the ol'..... CAPTIVE BOLT GUN......for 'special' cases................ 


    You are my friend the total package, and the best of the best, with your expertise and humor, and the timing of your comments. As stated in my posting yesterday, you actually could have made a career out of comedy. #1

    I have not looked at what is being said across the street in a very long time, so I am going to take a look now. I am sure I will get a good laugh, but not as good a laugh as I get coming to bookieassassins comedy gallery.
     
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    thanks boys.......................


    I'm surprised (seriously)....that even 4-5 have me figured out.....
      * my...... incredibly......dry sense of humor doesn't go over too well in 'real life'........as most folks that I know.......take themselves / life REALLY seriously...............



    To those that have not............................ 



    AGAIN.......the one / only BA theory >  message is THIS

    I think I have a few things figured out.....here they are.....if you do this you will NEVER lose money.........in the long run / very seldom in the short run either

    That is......attacking a match-up from every angle possible.....figuring out the number you want.....knowing when and where to get it......etc ....etc

    IF......you OMIT any step......you REDUCE your chances at a GUARANTEED long term profit.....................


    We've got guys here that omit EVERYTHING.....pretty much
      * decent instincts maybe have won them money in the past maybe.......but will come here and ARGUE FOR THAT STYLE

    After awhile......it's like.....WTF is wrong with you man?.........
       * here's where the internet is great......you don't get punched in the face..unless of course it's BigDaddy < he CAN find you...   
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    thanks boys.......................


    I'm surprised (seriously)....that even 4-5 have me figured out.....
      * my...... incredibly......dry sense of humor doesn't go over too well in 'real life'........as most folks that I know.......take themselves / life REALLY seriously...............



    To those that have not............................ 



    AGAIN.......the one / only BA theory >  message is THIS

    I think I have a few things figured out.....here they are.....if you do this you will NEVER lose money.........in the long run / very seldom in the short run either

    That is......attacking a match-up from every angle possible.....figuring out the number you want.....knowing when and where to get it......etc ....etc

    IF......you OMIT any step......you REDUCE your chances at a GUARANTEED long term profit.....................


    We've got guys here that omit EVERYTHING.....pretty much
      * decent instincts maybe have won them money in the past maybe.......but will come here and ARGUE FOR THAT STYLE

    After awhile......it's like.....WTF is wrong with you man?.........
       * here's where the internet is great......you don't get punched in the face..unless of course it's BigDaddy < he CAN find you...   
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pecador:

    BA,    Nice that you mentioned getting all panicky off a bad week.  I get panicky and have remorse before the weeks games.  I'm nervous now.  Nervous and scared make it fun. Tension and fear of losing are the pay off.

    I agree with what your saying about just blowing a bad week and if there are good plays aplenty the next week then you must for sure play those solid games. How do you win if you don't play??

    Anyway,  breaking even or having a small loss in a week is a win. I've done this for 16 years on line and my whole life before that. I seldom lose but if I regressed back to the so called norm I'd be back next year for sure.  It's fun.

    Stay Hard,    Doc



    I'm glad you're one of those that has me figured out...........

    EVER SINCE......I figured out a few years back that we humans are unbelievably WEAK.....in so little actual control.....of our thoughts / actions......especially that I was among the biggest IDIOTS.......................I feel I have a HUGE edge over most folks .....................ha............that don't have this figured out

    From how teams perform in certain situations......to how WE 'perform' after a few ugly losses.....OR great wins
      *think about it.......for awhile...........................................

    >>  ..our inability to stay GROUNDED......stay the course.....is what REALLY costs us money
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    BA,    Nice that you mentioned getting all panicky off a bad week.  I get panicky and have remorse before the weeks games.  I'm nervous now.  Nervous and scared make it fun. Tension and fear of losing are the pay off.

    I agree with what your saying about just blowing a bad week and if there are good plays aplenty the next week then you must for sure play those solid games. How do you win if you don't play??

    Anyway,  breaking even or having a small loss in a week is a win. I've done this for 16 years on line and my whole life before that. I seldom lose but if I regressed back to the so called norm I'd be back next year for sure.  It's fun.

    Stay Hard,    Doc



    I'm glad you're one of those that has me figured out...........

    EVER SINCE......I figured out a few years back that we humans are unbelievably WEAK.....in so little actual control.....of our thoughts / actions......especially that I was among the biggest IDIOTS.......................I feel I have a HUGE edge over most folks .....................ha............that don't have this figured out

    From how teams perform in certain situations......to how WE 'perform' after a few ugly losses.....OR great wins
      *think about it.......for awhile...........................................

    >>  ..our inability to stay GROUNDED......stay the course.....is what REALLY costs us money
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:


    I'm glad you're one of those that has me figured out...........

    EVER SINCE......I figured out a few years back that we humans are unbelievably WEAK.....in so little actual control.....of our thoughts / actions......especially that I was among the biggest IDIOTS.......................I feel I have a HUGE edge over most folks .....................ha............that don't have this figured out

    From how teams perform in certain situations......to how WE 'perform' after a few ugly losses.....OR great wins
      *think about it.......for awhile...........................................

    >>  ..our inability to stay GROUNDED......stay the course.....is what REALLY costs us money


    BA, would you write down your thoughts and put them in a book so I have something to read on the toilet from the time the season ends until Steele comes out?    
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    I'm glad you're one of those that has me figured out...........

    EVER SINCE......I figured out a few years back that we humans are unbelievably WEAK.....in so little actual control.....of our thoughts / actions......especially that I was among the biggest IDIOTS.......................I feel I have a HUGE edge over most folks .....................ha............that don't have this figured out

    From how teams perform in certain situations......to how WE 'perform' after a few ugly losses.....OR great wins
      *think about it.......for awhile...........................................

    >>  ..our inability to stay GROUNDED......stay the course.....is what REALLY costs us money


    BA, would you write down your thoughts and put them in a book so I have something to read on the toilet from the time the season ends until Steele comes out?    
     
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    Good luck this year BWS77, you are one of a select few I actually respect and appreciate on this site. Hopefully this year will be your best ever!
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    Good luck this year BWS77, you are one of a select few I actually respect and appreciate on this site. Hopefully this year will be your best ever!
     
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    been staring at this one for awhile.............

    After CLOSELY.....examining the match-up.....
      * can anybody think of a reason that TROY doesn't play the hell outta Boise ?........... 

    All boxes are checked.......don't love it...but looks like a solid play to me

    1)  Turn your textbooks to page 315
            * go to offense / defense stats last 7 yrs
           * draw a line under 2015.....all the way across (Brown's 1st yr)
           *with 2014 in mind....check out the LINEAR improvement in EVERY single category.....on BOTH sides of the ball
            
    2)   Now go to page 231.....do the same thing.....but below 2014 (Harsin's 1st yr)......which direction is this team headed?
       * O is (slightly) worse.....D is clearly worse.....should be better this year.....

    Live value?......no way it should be over 8' or so

    SPOT?........Boise tough at home?....sure 10 years ago....they've covered SIX.....of last NINETEEN games as a home favorite.....AND have Wazzu on deck....

      * Troy?.....Bama State on deck.....under Brown  has covered 7/9 non-conf games........and 6/7 as road dog......keep in mind LY a (probably) not quite as good Troy team came close to beating Clemson  ...in their 1st road game

    Troy D maybe soft(er) early......but Boise loses a 1700 yd rusher + 3/4 top Wr's'.....Boise D improved.....but Troy is gonna be TOUGH to stop


    FOCUS?

      *After Alabama St  Troy has at NMSU > Akron >  LSU  >  bye......1st (meaningful) challenge....is probably Oct 11 / S Alabama at home......tough road trip here sure
      $ maybe circle that NMSU game as one to FADE Troy.....Aggies likely 0-2 .....and have gotten killed by Troy ...outscored 104-13 L2....flat spot for Troy kinda....should be a big number
     
    * Boise?.....loaded......at Wazzu.....New Mexico....Virginia...bye.....BYU.....SDSU....Wyoming.......
      * off a POOR finish 2016.....need to start strong here


    ONE UNIT

    Col St  +8'
    BYU  -2'
    Fla  +4
    Rutgers +31'
    Troy  +12'

    smaller

    Oreg St  +3
    SMU  -24
    UNLV  -37
    Georgia  -13'
    Irish -9 / LSU -6
    Tex St  -14










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    been staring at this one for awhile.............

    After CLOSELY.....examining the match-up.....
      * can anybody think of a reason that TROY doesn't play the hell outta Boise ?........... 

    All boxes are checked.......don't love it...but looks like a solid play to me

    1)  Turn your textbooks to page 315
            * go to offense / defense stats last 7 yrs
           * draw a line under 2015.....all the way across (Brown's 1st yr)
           *with 2014 in mind....check out the LINEAR improvement in EVERY single category.....on BOTH sides of the ball
            
    2)   Now go to page 231.....do the same thing.....but below 2014 (Harsin's 1st yr)......which direction is this team headed?
       * O is (slightly) worse.....D is clearly worse.....should be better this year.....

    Live value?......no way it should be over 8' or so

    SPOT?........Boise tough at home?....sure 10 years ago....they've covered SIX.....of last NINETEEN games as a home favorite.....AND have Wazzu on deck....

      * Troy?.....Bama State on deck.....under Brown  has covered 7/9 non-conf games........and 6/7 as road dog......keep in mind LY a (probably) not quite as good Troy team came close to beating Clemson  ...in their 1st road game

    Troy D maybe soft(er) early......but Boise loses a 1700 yd rusher + 3/4 top Wr's'.....Boise D improved.....but Troy is gonna be TOUGH to stop


    FOCUS?

      *After Alabama St  Troy has at NMSU > Akron >  LSU  >  bye......1st (meaningful) challenge....is probably Oct 11 / S Alabama at home......tough road trip here sure
      $ maybe circle that NMSU game as one to FADE Troy.....Aggies likely 0-2 .....and have gotten killed by Troy ...outscored 104-13 L2....flat spot for Troy kinda....should be a big number
     
    * Boise?.....loaded......at Wazzu.....New Mexico....Virginia...bye.....BYU.....SDSU....Wyoming.......
      * off a POOR finish 2016.....need to start strong here


    ONE UNIT

    Col St  +8'
    BYU  -2'
    Fla  +4
    Rutgers +31'
    Troy  +12'

    smaller

    Oreg St  +3
    SMU  -24
    UNLV  -37
    Georgia  -13'
    Irish -9 / LSU -6
    Tex St  -14










     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    been staring at this one for awhile.............

    After CLOSELY.....examining the match-up.....
      * can anybody think of a reason that TROY doesn't play the hell outta Boise ?........... 

    All boxes are checked.......don't love it...but looks like a solid play to me

    1)  Turn your textbooks to page 315
            * go to offense / defense stats last 7 yrs
           * draw a line under 2015.....all the way across (Brown's 1st yr)
           *with 2014 in mind....check out the LINEAR improvement in EVERY single category.....on BOTH sides of the ball
            
    2)   Now go to page 231.....do the same thing.....but below 2014 (Harsin's 1st yr)......which direction is this team headed?
       * O is (slightly) worse.....D is clearly worse.....should be better this year.....

    Live value?......no way it should be over 8' or so

    SPOT?........Boise tough at home?....sure 10 years ago....they've covered SIX.....of last NINETEEN games as a home favorite.....AND have Wazzu on deck....

      * Troy?.....Bama State on deck.....under Brown  has covered 7/9 non-conf games........and 6/7 as road dog......keep in mind LY a (probably) not quite as good Troy team came close to beating Clemson  ...in their 1st road game

    Troy D maybe soft(er) early......but Boise loses a 1700 yd rusher + 3/4 top Wr's'.....Boise D improved.....but Troy is gonna be TOUGH to stop


    FOCUS?

      *After Alabama St  Troy has at NMSU > Akron >  LSU  >  bye......1st (meaningful) challenge....is probably Oct 11 / S Alabama at home......tough road trip here sure
      $ maybe circle that NMSU game as one to FADE Troy.....Aggies likely 0-2 .....and have gotten killed by Troy ...outscored 104-13 L2....flat spot for Troy kinda....should be a big number
     
    * Boise?.....loaded......at Wazzu.....New Mexico....Virginia...bye.....BYU.....SDSU....Wyoming.......
      * off a POOR finish 2016.....need to start strong here


    ONE UNIT

    Col St  +8'
    BYU  -2'
    Fla  +4
    Rutgers +31'
    Troy  +12'

    smaller

    Oreg St  +3
    SMU  -24
    UNLV  -37
    Georgia  -13'
    Irish -9 / LSU -6
    Tex St  -14


    Yep, definitely lean Troy here.  Pecador asked me about this game in late May.  Said slight lean Troy at the time, that my preliminary line was no more than 10, but not done reviewing Boise at the time.  ... came out to -8.3 BTW.  Concerns with Troy LBs & O-line, but Boise State trending down under Harsin and question marks in the back 7 on defense.  And did you see the Troy 1st half / 2nd half #s breakdown (really by quarters)??  If that keeps up, 2nd half of this game could be a shootout.

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    been staring at this one for awhile.............

    After CLOSELY.....examining the match-up.....
      * can anybody think of a reason that TROY doesn't play the hell outta Boise ?........... 

    All boxes are checked.......don't love it...but looks like a solid play to me

    1)  Turn your textbooks to page 315
            * go to offense / defense stats last 7 yrs
           * draw a line under 2015.....all the way across (Brown's 1st yr)
           *with 2014 in mind....check out the LINEAR improvement in EVERY single category.....on BOTH sides of the ball
            
    2)   Now go to page 231.....do the same thing.....but below 2014 (Harsin's 1st yr)......which direction is this team headed?
       * O is (slightly) worse.....D is clearly worse.....should be better this year.....

    Live value?......no way it should be over 8' or so

    SPOT?........Boise tough at home?....sure 10 years ago....they've covered SIX.....of last NINETEEN games as a home favorite.....AND have Wazzu on deck....

      * Troy?.....Bama State on deck.....under Brown  has covered 7/9 non-conf games........and 6/7 as road dog......keep in mind LY a (probably) not quite as good Troy team came close to beating Clemson  ...in their 1st road game

    Troy D maybe soft(er) early......but Boise loses a 1700 yd rusher + 3/4 top Wr's'.....Boise D improved.....but Troy is gonna be TOUGH to stop


    FOCUS?

      *After Alabama St  Troy has at NMSU > Akron >  LSU  >  bye......1st (meaningful) challenge....is probably Oct 11 / S Alabama at home......tough road trip here sure
      $ maybe circle that NMSU game as one to FADE Troy.....Aggies likely 0-2 .....and have gotten killed by Troy ...outscored 104-13 L2....flat spot for Troy kinda....should be a big number
     
    * Boise?.....loaded......at Wazzu.....New Mexico....Virginia...bye.....BYU.....SDSU....Wyoming.......
      * off a POOR finish 2016.....need to start strong here


    ONE UNIT

    Col St  +8'
    BYU  -2'
    Fla  +4
    Rutgers +31'
    Troy  +12'

    smaller

    Oreg St  +3
    SMU  -24
    UNLV  -37
    Georgia  -13'
    Irish -9 / LSU -6
    Tex St  -14


    Yep, definitely lean Troy here.  Pecador asked me about this game in late May.  Said slight lean Troy at the time, that my preliminary line was no more than 10, but not done reviewing Boise at the time.  ... came out to -8.3 BTW.  Concerns with Troy LBs & O-line, but Boise State trending down under Harsin and question marks in the back 7 on defense.  And did you see the Troy 1st half / 2nd half #s breakdown (really by quarters)??  If that keeps up, 2nd half of this game could be a shootout.

     
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    like Troy as well. Informative and humorous thread 
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    Quote Originally Posted by TD21:


    Yep, definitely lean Troy here.  Pecador asked me about this game in late May.  Said slight lean Troy at the time, that my preliminary line was no more than 10, but not done reviewing Boise at the time.  ... came out to -8.3 BTW.  Concerns with Troy LBs & O-line, but Boise State trending down under Harsin and question marks in the back 7 on defense.  And did you see the Troy 1st half / 2nd half #s breakdown (really by quarters)??  If that keeps up, 2nd half of this game could be a shootout.



    BIG question...
      *what's DC Koenning / staff doing at halftime?.....

               S&P       pts           rush

    1Q     # 9           #19            3.1/rush
    2Q      15            22             1.9
    3Q      104          81             5.0
    4Q      98            20             3.5

    Troy O.....same deal to a lesser degree

    1Q      48             14           5.0
    2Q      79             72           5.0
    3Q      96             54           3.6
    4Q      38             61           4.5

    Boise O balanced....3Q their worst
      * Boise D - 4Q by far their worst:   #113 scoring  / S&P 67 / 4.7 per rush .....  Unfortunately ha 3Q their best


    note:
    Troy OL # 1 in sack rate / Boise DL much softer / less disruptive LY......+ QB get's rid of the ball in a hurry
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      #98 stuff rate / #80 sacks....when needing to make a stop on 3rd/4th and short (<2)?......vs the run >   the nation's WORST..................

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    Yep, definitely lean Troy here.  Pecador asked me about this game in late May.  Said slight lean Troy at the time, that my preliminary line was no more than 10, but not done reviewing Boise at the time.  ... came out to -8.3 BTW.  Concerns with Troy LBs & O-line, but Boise State trending down under Harsin and question marks in the back 7 on defense.  And did you see the Troy 1st half / 2nd half #s breakdown (really by quarters)??  If that keeps up, 2nd half of this game could be a shootout.



    BIG question...
      *what's DC Koenning / staff doing at halftime?.....

               S&P       pts           rush

    1Q     # 9           #19            3.1/rush
    2Q      15            22             1.9
    3Q      104          81             5.0
    4Q      98            20             3.5

    Troy O.....same deal to a lesser degree

    1Q      48             14           5.0
    2Q      79             72           5.0
    3Q      96             54           3.6
    4Q      38             61           4.5

    Boise O balanced....3Q their worst
      * Boise D - 4Q by far their worst:   #113 scoring  / S&P 67 / 4.7 per rush .....  Unfortunately ha 3Q their best


    note:
    Troy OL # 1 in sack rate / Boise DL much softer / less disruptive LY......+ QB get's rid of the ball in a hurry
    ..
      #98 stuff rate / #80 sacks....when needing to make a stop on 3rd/4th and short (<2)?......vs the run >   the nation's WORST..................

     
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    Hey Book ... do you know of any website that has game reviews / breakdowns/ angles / trends ???

    Appreciate it !!
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    Appreciate it !!
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside:

    Hey Book ... do you know of any website that has game reviews / breakdowns/ angles / trends ???

    Appreciate it !!


    up now.....

    https://www.covers.com/sports/ncaaf/matchups
    https://www.oddsshark.com/ncaaf/scores

    I like Don Best for match-up stuff...

    https://www.donbest.com/ncaaf/matchups-classic/

    lotta stuff here

    https://www.statfox.com/cfb/gamematchup.asp
      
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside:

    Hey Book ... do you know of any website that has game reviews / breakdowns/ angles / trends ???

    Appreciate it !!


    up now.....

    https://www.covers.com/sports/ncaaf/matchups
    https://www.oddsshark.com/ncaaf/scores

    I like Don Best for match-up stuff...

    https://www.donbest.com/ncaaf/matchups-classic/

    lotta stuff here

    https://www.statfox.com/cfb/gamematchup.asp
      
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