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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2017 - 11:06 PM ET #276

    You have to grab BA's picks early because damned if the lines don't regularly move across key numbers near game time. Boston College went from -2 to -3.5. Rutgers jumped from+30.5 to +27 and this still 5 or 6 days before kick off of those two games. 

    Another year, let's get them greedy stinkin books 


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    You have to grab BA's picks early because damned if the lines don't regularly move across key numbers near game time. Boston College went from -2 to -3.5. Rutgers jumped from+30.5 to +27 and this still 5 or 6 days before kick off of those two games. 

    Another year, let's get them greedy stinkin books 


     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2017 - 11:28 PM ET #277

    I meant to say @Mary. -27  Towson.

    See you in a few days.  My old brain is fried right now.  Way to much math for me.

    The thing is... GOY's going away soon.  Last chance to get good #'s locked in.

    An aside,  I sent  a check to the Mayor of Rockport.  The deal was, I haven't used a stamp for 5 or 6 years. I tore up my desk trying to find one.  A friend brought me one. I take my letter to the post office then come home and find out Rockport has ceased to exist. Pt. Aransas also.    Geez!
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    I meant to say @Mary. -27  Towson.

    See you in a few days.  My old brain is fried right now.  Way to much math for me.

    The thing is... GOY's going away soon.  Last chance to get good #'s locked in.

    An aside,  I sent  a check to the Mayor of Rockport.  The deal was, I haven't used a stamp for 5 or 6 years. I tore up my desk trying to find one.  A friend brought me one. I take my letter to the post office then come home and find out Rockport has ceased to exist. Pt. Aransas also.    Geez!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2017 - 8:57 AM ET #278

    BA - noticed on Sagarin that they predict most games.....somehow the following Top 25 games were left out?  Any idea why? 

    Michigan / Florida
    LSU / BYU
    Louisville / Purdue
    Va Tech / WVU
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    BA - noticed on Sagarin that they predict most games.....somehow the following Top 25 games were left out?  Any idea why? 

    Michigan / Florida
    LSU / BYU
    Louisville / Purdue
    Va Tech / WVU
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2017 - 5:58 PM ET #279

    Found THIS.....technical nugget....while checking out those wacky S Bama Jaguars......> source... of many  Rocky Long nightmares 


    An eggzample of how technical stuff can help...... SUGGEST plays....
        ** AGAIN.....I DO NOT...RECOMMEND BLINDLY 'PLAYING ON'... a trend .....

     ** by all means tho......any idiot that has that overwhelming urge to chime in how useless trends are .....feel free I reckon



    9/23    S Bama.....hosts Idaho

    *  S Bama off a (likely) win.....vs Bama A&M
    *  Idaho off W Michigan road.....BYE on deck

    note:  LY Idaho won 38-31

    S Bama?....
      *TERRIBLE at home....29% ATS....
      *TERRIBLE in Belt games....25% ATS
           
      so... BAD in SBelt HOME games  11-9 SU / 6-14 ATS / 7-12 OU

    AND.....they stink off a WIN......18% ATS.......and of course are weak in revenge games....38%

    Vandals?.....
      *  tough on the SB road....10-2-1 ATS.....7-1 run
      *  14-7 ATS off a loss....8-3 ATS off a win.....so win/lose vs WM...don't matter....loss preferred of course....> more line value here
      * BEFORE bye?....Petrino has covered 6 of last 7 games

    DOES THIS MEAN......Idaho is a LOCK !!!.....hammer Idaho !!!!.....................?.

    NO............simple circle this one..........
     
    $$    most likely.....the above (worthless) trends......... will not be reflected in the line....Vandals should be a small favorite depending .....

    KEY:     IF.....you WAIT a few days after the line comes out.....folks will have figured the (above) out by then...and the line will have moved from 2 > 2' > 3 > 5 or so (just an example)...........



    By staying AHEAD.....of the odds-makers / other gamblers as well....you will make a helluva lot more MONEY........



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    Found THIS.....technical nugget....while checking out those wacky S Bama Jaguars......> source... of many  Rocky Long nightmares 


    An eggzample of how technical stuff can help...... SUGGEST plays....
        ** AGAIN.....I DO NOT...RECOMMEND BLINDLY 'PLAYING ON'... a trend .....

     ** by all means tho......any idiot that has that overwhelming urge to chime in how useless trends are .....feel free I reckon



    9/23    S Bama.....hosts Idaho

    *  S Bama off a (likely) win.....vs Bama A&M
    *  Idaho off W Michigan road.....BYE on deck

    note:  LY Idaho won 38-31

    S Bama?....
      *TERRIBLE at home....29% ATS....
      *TERRIBLE in Belt games....25% ATS
           
      so... BAD in SBelt HOME games  11-9 SU / 6-14 ATS / 7-12 OU

    AND.....they stink off a WIN......18% ATS.......and of course are weak in revenge games....38%

    Vandals?.....
      *  tough on the SB road....10-2-1 ATS.....7-1 run
      *  14-7 ATS off a loss....8-3 ATS off a win.....so win/lose vs WM...don't matter....loss preferred of course....> more line value here
      * BEFORE bye?....Petrino has covered 6 of last 7 games

    DOES THIS MEAN......Idaho is a LOCK !!!.....hammer Idaho !!!!.....................?.

    NO............simple circle this one..........
     
    $$    most likely.....the above (worthless) trends......... will not be reflected in the line....Vandals should be a small favorite depending .....

    KEY:     IF.....you WAIT a few days after the line comes out.....folks will have figured the (above) out by then...and the line will have moved from 2 > 2' > 3 > 5 or so (just an example)...........



    By staying AHEAD.....of the odds-makers / other gamblers as well....you will make a helluva lot more MONEY........



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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2017 - 6:07 PM ET #280

    forgot............

    Not a guarantee of course.....and nothing to get overly excited about.......above just suggests a FAVORABLE spot for Idaho.....and a BAD one for those neurotic Jaguars.....and is worth IMO....around 2 points +/- .....essentially taking away any (not much to begin with) home field edge S Bama had.....
      * arguably of course.....but a reasonable idea IMO

    Just a reminder.....that as handicappers.....we are looking for ANY edge.....that we can find............ 
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    forgot............

    Not a guarantee of course.....and nothing to get overly excited about.......above just suggests a FAVORABLE spot for Idaho.....and a BAD one for those neurotic Jaguars.....and is worth IMO....around 2 points +/- .....essentially taking away any (not much to begin with) home field edge S Bama had.....
      * arguably of course.....but a reasonable idea IMO

    Just a reminder.....that as handicappers.....we are looking for ANY edge.....that we can find............ 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2017 - 7:11 PM ET #281

    Buried in the most recent post from BA, he confirmed something that I have suspected for some time.

    Point:  If something is printed in Steele, that information is now in the overall market and hence in the line itself.  Any edge one perceives in Steele may be no edge at all.  Probably not a negative, but likely near a 50/50 split.  

    The graveyards of bettors bankrolls are littered with the once great systems that are now little more than coin flips. Can anyone say "reverse line moves"?

    Read the book "Sharper".  He makes the comment that anything that goes public will eventually cause the market to adjust, reducing its value to bettors.


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    Buried in the most recent post from BA, he confirmed something that I have suspected for some time.

    Point:  If something is printed in Steele, that information is now in the overall market and hence in the line itself.  Any edge one perceives in Steele may be no edge at all.  Probably not a negative, but likely near a 50/50 split.  

    The graveyards of bettors bankrolls are littered with the once great systems that are now little more than coin flips. Can anyone say "reverse line moves"?

    Read the book "Sharper".  He makes the comment that anything that goes public will eventually cause the market to adjust, reducing its value to bettors.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by combato:

    Buried in the most recent post from BA, he confirmed something that I have suspected for some time.

    Point:  If something is printed in Steele, that information is now in the overall market and hence in the line itself.  Any edge one perceives in Steele may be no edge at all.  Probably not a negative, but likely near a 50/50 split.  

    The graveyards of bettors bankrolls are littered with the once great systems that are now little more than coin flips. Can anyone say "reverse line moves"?

    Read the book "Sharper".  He makes the comment that anything that goes public will eventually cause the market to adjust, reducing its value to bettors.


     True dat.  Here is the list of NCAA Football newsletters from last year that were coin flips.

    CKO
    Pointwise
    Power sweep
    Red sheet
    Winning sports
    Killer sports
    Power plays
    Gold sheet

    I won't include any of our tout hosts because I don't want to get banned.

     

    anyhow you get the general idea. 

    One and only one had a winning record.

    Sports Reporter was at 29-14 last year in NCAA foots.


    I like 
    Boston College -2.5
    Florida ML +160
    Miami Oh ML =115
    Troy =10.5

    influenced of course by BA

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    Quote Originally Posted by combato:

    Buried in the most recent post from BA, he confirmed something that I have suspected for some time.

    Point:  If something is printed in Steele, that information is now in the overall market and hence in the line itself.  Any edge one perceives in Steele may be no edge at all.  Probably not a negative, but likely near a 50/50 split.  

    The graveyards of bettors bankrolls are littered with the once great systems that are now little more than coin flips. Can anyone say "reverse line moves"?

    Read the book "Sharper".  He makes the comment that anything that goes public will eventually cause the market to adjust, reducing its value to bettors.


     True dat.  Here is the list of NCAA Football newsletters from last year that were coin flips.

    CKO
    Pointwise
    Power sweep
    Red sheet
    Winning sports
    Killer sports
    Power plays
    Gold sheet

    I won't include any of our tout hosts because I don't want to get banned.

     

    anyhow you get the general idea. 

    One and only one had a winning record.

    Sports Reporter was at 29-14 last year in NCAA foots.


    I like 
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    Florida ML +160
    Miami Oh ML =115
    Troy =10.5

    influenced of course by BA

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2017 - 8:36 AM ET #283

    BA - noticed on Sagarin that they predict most games.....somehow the following Top 25 games were left out? 

    Michigan / Florida
    LSU / BYU
    Louisville / Purdue
    Va Tech / WVU

    Games left out on purpose?  Edge here?  Injuries / Suspensions?  
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    BA - noticed on Sagarin that they predict most games.....somehow the following Top 25 games were left out? 

    Michigan / Florida
    LSU / BYU
    Louisville / Purdue
    Va Tech / WVU

    Games left out on purpose?  Edge here?  Injuries / Suspensions?  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpShooter8:

    BA - noticed on Sagarin that they predict most games.....somehow the following Top 25 games were left out? 

    Michigan / Florida
    LSU / BYU
    Louisville / Purdue
    Va Tech / WVU

    Games left out on purpose?  Edge here?  Injuries / Suspensions?  

    he's LAZY I reckon......blows off NEUTRAL site games..........

    here's score predictions from ESPN Insider (Team Rankings / Number Fire < ?).....last one Gold Sheet
      * fav 1st.....(GS predicts Fla to win)

     Michigan / Florida
      24-21
      27-20
      23-20 Fla

    LSU / BYU
      33-16
      30-17
      23-17

    Louisville / Purdue
       45-21
       51-14
       38-23

    Va Tech / WVU
       27-24
       31-26
       23-22
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpShooter8:

    BA - noticed on Sagarin that they predict most games.....somehow the following Top 25 games were left out? 

    Michigan / Florida
    LSU / BYU
    Louisville / Purdue
    Va Tech / WVU

    Games left out on purpose?  Edge here?  Injuries / Suspensions?  

    he's LAZY I reckon......blows off NEUTRAL site games..........

    here's score predictions from ESPN Insider (Team Rankings / Number Fire < ?).....last one Gold Sheet
      * fav 1st.....(GS predicts Fla to win)

     Michigan / Florida
      24-21
      27-20
      23-20 Fla

    LSU / BYU
      33-16
      30-17
      23-17

    Louisville / Purdue
       45-21
       51-14
       38-23

    Va Tech / WVU
       27-24
       31-26
       23-22
     
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    LZ......good man / too kind as always...........BOL buddy......

    Combato.....better stop posting.....your posts are too well thought out / make too much sense.......>> might get banned here................
         *  BOL man................
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    LZ......good man / too kind as always...........BOL buddy......

    Combato.....better stop posting.....your posts are too well thought out / make too much sense.......>> might get banned here................
         *  BOL man................
     
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    BTW..........you guys (whomever / LH for sure ha).... quit betting / talking up Texas PLEASE
      * we NEED 2 crappy games from them to set up a play vs USC

    2 blow outs + USC struggle with TREE?....gonna drop that number well below 10 ...........
      * where as.....2 sloppy wins + USC convincing W ?..........just MIGHT get us a BetOnline opener at 14.....for 5 seconds maybe



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    BTW..........you guys (whomever / LH for sure ha).... quit betting / talking up Texas PLEASE
      * we NEED 2 crappy games from them to set up a play vs USC

    2 blow outs + USC struggle with TREE?....gonna drop that number well below 10 ...........
      * where as.....2 sloppy wins + USC convincing W ?..........just MIGHT get us a BetOnline opener at 14.....for 5 seconds maybe



     
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    he's LAZY I reckon......blows off NEUTRAL site games..........

    here's score predictions from ESPN Insider (Team Rankings / Number Fire < ?).....last one Gold Sheet
      * fav 1st.....(GS predicts Fla to win)

     Michigan / Florida
      24-21
      27-20
      23-20 Fla

    LSU / BYU
      33-16
      30-17
      23-17

    Louisville / Purdue
       45-21
       51-14
       38-23

    Va Tech / WVU
       27-24
       31-26
       23-22

    Thanks BA.  Love your dedication!
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    he's LAZY I reckon......blows off NEUTRAL site games..........

    here's score predictions from ESPN Insider (Team Rankings / Number Fire < ?).....last one Gold Sheet
      * fav 1st.....(GS predicts Fla to win)

     Michigan / Florida
      24-21
      27-20
      23-20 Fla

    LSU / BYU
      33-16
      30-17
      23-17

    Louisville / Purdue
       45-21
       51-14
       38-23

    Va Tech / WVU
       27-24
       31-26
       23-22

    Thanks BA.  Love your dedication!
     
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    Thanks for the info BA....would you still take Rutgers +27.5??
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    Thanks for the info BA....would you still take Rutgers +27.5??
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Thanks for the info BA....would you still take Rutgers +27.5??

    wouldn't recommend it.......at gunpoint I might say.... I think they lose by fewer than 27' tho......
      * any (perceived) value .....is gone......line is (now) right where it should be......as I said weeks ago............................ 
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    Thanks for the info BA....would you still take Rutgers +27.5??

    wouldn't recommend it.......at gunpoint I might say.... I think they lose by fewer than 27' tho......
      * any (perceived) value .....is gone......line is (now) right where it should be......as I said weeks ago............................ 
     
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    BA...Thanks for the shoutout in the other thread....Lil Ricky is annoying isn't he?? 

    I wanted to come into yours and thank you personally for all of the insight you provide. I have been at this for 30 years (I am old timer like you..lol!) and I have never learned as much as I have from your postings. Now do you see why I defend the Scalabrines and the BA s of the world?? Thoroughness are what you and Scal are about...and thoroughness means time...lots of it...dedicated to being fans. PLEASE keep doing what you do...there are so many of us who appreciate the time and effort you guys put into it. Best of luck this season my friend!!   
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    BA...Thanks for the shoutout in the other thread....Lil Ricky is annoying isn't he?? 

    I wanted to come into yours and thank you personally for all of the insight you provide. I have been at this for 30 years (I am old timer like you..lol!) and I have never learned as much as I have from your postings. Now do you see why I defend the Scalabrines and the BA s of the world?? Thoroughness are what you and Scal are about...and thoroughness means time...lots of it...dedicated to being fans. PLEASE keep doing what you do...there are so many of us who appreciate the time and effort you guys put into it. Best of luck this season my friend!!   
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by njsupreme1:

    BA...Thanks for the shoutout in the other thread....Lil Ricky is annoying isn't he?? 

    I wanted to come into yours and thank you personally for all of the insight you provide. I have been at this for 30 years (I am old timer like you..lol!) and I have never learned as much as I have from your postings. Now do you see why I defend the Scalabrines and the BA s of the world?? Thoroughness are what you and Scal are about...and thoroughness means time...lots of it...dedicated to being fans. PLEASE keep doing what you do...there are so many of us who appreciate the time and effort you guys put into it. Best of luck this season my friend!!   

    good man....thanks for the kind words................


    FUN....taking shots at that entitled .....ignorant azz puss Little Rickey........most importantly.....a needed diversion for me....as I struggle to break down CUSA.....which I hate < saved it for last ha
      *  ironically tho.....he's just a young kid here for attention.......giving it TO HIM.....only encourages him more wtf........ 

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    BA...Thanks for the shoutout in the other thread....Lil Ricky is annoying isn't he?? 

    I wanted to come into yours and thank you personally for all of the insight you provide. I have been at this for 30 years (I am old timer like you..lol!) and I have never learned as much as I have from your postings. Now do you see why I defend the Scalabrines and the BA s of the world?? Thoroughness are what you and Scal are about...and thoroughness means time...lots of it...dedicated to being fans. PLEASE keep doing what you do...there are so many of us who appreciate the time and effort you guys put into it. Best of luck this season my friend!!   

    good man....thanks for the kind words................


    FUN....taking shots at that entitled .....ignorant azz puss Little Rickey........most importantly.....a needed diversion for me....as I struggle to break down CUSA.....which I hate < saved it for last ha
      *  ironically tho.....he's just a young kid here for attention.......giving it TO HIM.....only encourages him more wtf........ 

     
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    sorry boys running behind.......plus wanna RELAX / watch the games

    My 'what the line should be'....with notes / leans for week 2 up late Sat / early Sunday....should ready to go for those delectable BetOnline openers .....anywhere from 11:00a > 2:00p C

    * plus 5Dimes has most week 2 up already....you can use those....THEN check Sagarin (not bad at all this year / esp this early)....maybe Massey's (his early #'s look  weak tho)....I've checked Bill C's numbers and they're not bad at all......
     * BEST?.....lay out the $8-9... Gold Sheet's numbers.....these most  reflect the Vegas pointspread 

    STOP.....using ESPN's.....or STEELE'S.......especially....those +/- ratings aren't worth a crap

     IN FACT :  my boi TD's numbers are BETTER than both...
        * with respect to Double-Up.....his are really good but reflect his own opinions more > thus more suited for his own use > (less reflective of Vegas point-spread).................IMO



    TODAY....

    Gotta be Ohio St or nothing.....UNDER looks like the way to go if anything...........Buckeyes could beat the hell outta them....or maybe their O could struggle.....yet again

    Gotta be Buffalo or nothing.....

    LEAN......ULM for me.....either way looks like

    You're crazy to bet EITHER ASU ....or NMSU.....kinda sorta like NMSU......BUT they could get destroyed here....over.... a definite look...as both should be able to RUN here
      * how awesome would it be....for Rose to rush for 350 or so > they beat ASU > run that POS Graham outta town?........... 


    Gotta be ....FIU I would think...too many points

    OKIE ST?....too unpredictable in this SPOT for me....but gotta be them or nothing here


    IN-GAME / halftime?........
      * looking for OFFENSES.....that WILL move it at some point

    Okie St.....if they start slow.....

    Memphis ditto........

    Ariz St?.....I'll be watching this one closely.....slow start a definite possibility....I don't see how NMSU stops their running game for 4Qtrs.....if NMSU is running well.....OVER maybe better

    I would imagine.....that UCF finds a way to WIN.....if they start slow.....Butch may have FIU playing TOUGH......or they might stink.....I say they play UCF tough

    Buckeyes struggle early?....REALLY tough to see losing here...
      * probably WRONG to assume...they move the ball well here....
    RECALL.....Indy HC Allen.....knows Wilson's tendencies as well.......................

    So.....nothing for me today.........lotta action tomorrow......
      *unfortunately for SOME.................most value is long gone



    EM/CLT......stay away

    Loved Rutgers at 31......at 27'?......pass or play in-game / halftime......I  would think.....Huskies get up early.....then CRUISE....as CP likes to do...so what appears to be a 40-0 game..........becomes a 40-13.....40-17......40-20 type game

    $$$$$   I see no reason for him to HUMILIATE Chris Ash / Rutgers here..........meaning put his 1st D back out there late to prevent a late score.....crap like that

    I like FAU to play Navy tough.....bet it at 17' long time ago.....forgot to post sooooooo......currently I would pass at 10 or less

    Wisky / Utah St.....slight lean Utah St

    Like BC at 2'......at 4 or more?......pass / bet ML instead / in-game maybe..........

    Love(d) Col St at 7'+....at 3 or so?.........PASS......after that huge P12 romp over OSU last week....I might consider Col here.....at 3

    BOL boys..............................
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    sorry boys running behind.......plus wanna RELAX / watch the games

    My 'what the line should be'....with notes / leans for week 2 up late Sat / early Sunday....should ready to go for those delectable BetOnline openers .....anywhere from 11:00a > 2:00p C

    * plus 5Dimes has most week 2 up already....you can use those....THEN check Sagarin (not bad at all this year / esp this early)....maybe Massey's (his early #'s look  weak tho)....I've checked Bill C's numbers and they're not bad at all......
     * BEST?.....lay out the $8-9... Gold Sheet's numbers.....these most  reflect the Vegas pointspread 

    STOP.....using ESPN's.....or STEELE'S.......especially....those +/- ratings aren't worth a crap

     IN FACT :  my boi TD's numbers are BETTER than both...
        * with respect to Double-Up.....his are really good but reflect his own opinions more > thus more suited for his own use > (less reflective of Vegas point-spread).................IMO



    TODAY....

    Gotta be Ohio St or nothing.....UNDER looks like the way to go if anything...........Buckeyes could beat the hell outta them....or maybe their O could struggle.....yet again

    Gotta be Buffalo or nothing.....

    LEAN......ULM for me.....either way looks like

    You're crazy to bet EITHER ASU ....or NMSU.....kinda sorta like NMSU......BUT they could get destroyed here....over.... a definite look...as both should be able to RUN here
      * how awesome would it be....for Rose to rush for 350 or so > they beat ASU > run that POS Graham outta town?........... 


    Gotta be ....FIU I would think...too many points

    OKIE ST?....too unpredictable in this SPOT for me....but gotta be them or nothing here


    IN-GAME / halftime?........
      * looking for OFFENSES.....that WILL move it at some point

    Okie St.....if they start slow.....

    Memphis ditto........

    Ariz St?.....I'll be watching this one closely.....slow start a definite possibility....I don't see how NMSU stops their running game for 4Qtrs.....if NMSU is running well.....OVER maybe better

    I would imagine.....that UCF finds a way to WIN.....if they start slow.....Butch may have FIU playing TOUGH......or they might stink.....I say they play UCF tough

    Buckeyes struggle early?....REALLY tough to see losing here...
      * probably WRONG to assume...they move the ball well here....
    RECALL.....Indy HC Allen.....knows Wilson's tendencies as well.......................

    So.....nothing for me today.........lotta action tomorrow......
      *unfortunately for SOME.................most value is long gone



    EM/CLT......stay away

    Loved Rutgers at 31......at 27'?......pass or play in-game / halftime......I  would think.....Huskies get up early.....then CRUISE....as CP likes to do...so what appears to be a 40-0 game..........becomes a 40-13.....40-17......40-20 type game

    $$$$$   I see no reason for him to HUMILIATE Chris Ash / Rutgers here..........meaning put his 1st D back out there late to prevent a late score.....crap like that

    I like FAU to play Navy tough.....bet it at 17' long time ago.....forgot to post sooooooo......currently I would pass at 10 or less

    Wisky / Utah St.....slight lean Utah St

    Like BC at 2'......at 4 or more?......pass / bet ML instead / in-game maybe..........

    Love(d) Col St at 7'+....at 3 or so?.........PASS......after that huge P12 romp over OSU last week....I might consider Col here.....at 3

    BOL boys..............................
     
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    gotta HAVE SOME action...........
      *   adding small (1/2 unit or so) play on Ohio St / Indiana 1H UNDER 30

    Indiana TT under 17'-18 not a bad idea either.....I don't think they move the ball here much at all........hopefully Buckeyes wait until the 2H ............
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      *   adding small (1/2 unit or so) play on Ohio St / Indiana 1H UNDER 30

    Indiana TT under 17'-18 not a bad idea either.....I don't think they move the ball here much at all........hopefully Buckeyes wait until the 2H ............
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:


    holy crap man post more often............nice avatar............. 

    Will do my friend!! Thanks for doing what you do 
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    holy crap man post more often............nice avatar............. 

    Will do my friend!! Thanks for doing what you do 
     
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    I like it
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    My two cents on AZST:  First Year OC Napier has a phenomenal football mind and will definitely improve the Devils.  He was the Youngest OC in a Power Bowl division, coordinated at the time many new OFF records under Tuberville until Dabo came in and ran him off.  He went under Saban's tutelage, followed McElwain to CSU, then returned to Bama after Mc came to UF.  He was passed over by Saban, twice, before Graham got him to come to ASU.  To me, he is highly motivated to show his worth because even Graham said he came to him a bit pissed off about being overlooked and is carrying a chip on his shoulder. Not sure tonight is his coming out party,  I am looking for these guys to put some points up this season.
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    just a HUNCH.....one / both of these D's break down....

    SMALL play......ASU / NMSU  2H OVER 33'

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    just a HUNCH.....one / both of these D's break down....

    SMALL play......ASU / NMSU  2H OVER 33'

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    Bump this thread up !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    sorry boys running behind.......plus wanna RELAX / watch the gamesMy 'what the line should be'....with notes / leans for week 2 up late Sat / early Sunday....should ready to go for those delectable BetOnline openers .....anywhere from 11:00a > 2:00p C* plus 5Dimes has most week 2 up already....you can use those....THEN check Sagarin (not bad at all this year / esp this early)....maybe Massey's (his early #'s look  weak tho)....I've checked Bill C's numbers and they're not bad at all...... * BEST?.....lay out the $8-9... Gold Sheet's numbers.....these most  reflect the Vegas pointspread STOP.....using ESPN's.....or STEELE'S.......especially....those +/- ratings aren't worth a crap IN FACT :  my boi TD's numbers are BETTER than both...    * with respect to Double-Up.....his are really good but reflect his own opinions more > thus more suited for his own use > (less reflective of Vegas point-spread).................IMOTODAY....Gotta be Ohio St or nothing.....UNDER looks like the way to go if anything...........Buckeyes could beat the hell outta them....or maybe their O could struggle.....yet againGotta be Buffalo or nothing.....LEAN......ULM for me.....either way looks likeYou're crazy to bet EITHER ASU ....or NMSU.....kinda sorta like NMSU......BUT they could get destroyed here....over.... a definite look...as both should be able to RUN here  * how awesome would it be....for Rose to rush for 350 or so > they beat ASU > run that POS Graham outta town?........... Gotta be ....FIU I would think...too many pointsOKIE ST?....too unpredictable in this SPOT for me....but gotta be them or nothing hereIN-GAME / halftime?........  * looking for OFFENSES.....that WILL move it at some pointOkie St.....if they start slow.....Memphis ditto........Ariz St?.....I'll be watching this one closely.....slow start a definite possibility....I don't see how NMSU stops their running game for 4Qtrs.....if NMSU is running well.....OVER maybe betterI would imagine.....that UCF finds a way to WIN.....if they start slow.....Butch may have FIU playing TOUGH......or they might stink.....I say they play UCF toughBuckeyes struggle early?....REALLY tough to see losing here...  * probably WRONG to assume...they move the ball well here....RECALL.....Indy HC Allen.....knows Wilson's tendencies as well.......................So.....nothing for me today.........lotta action tomorrow......  *unfortunately for SOME.................most value is long goneEM/CLT......stay awayLoved Rutgers at 31......at 27'?......pass or play in-game / halftime......I  would think.....Huskies get up early.....then CRUISE....as CP likes to do...so what appears to be a 40-0 game..........becomes a 40-13.....40-17......40-20 type game$$$$$   I see no reason for him to HUMILIATE Chris Ash / Rutgers here..........meaning put his 1st D back out there late to prevent a late score.....crap like thatI like FAU to play Navy tough.....bet it at 17' long time ago.....forgot to post sooooooo......currently I would pass at 10 or lessWisky / Utah St.....slight lean Utah StLike BC at 2'......at 4 or more?......pass / bet ML instead / in-game maybe..........Love(d) Col St at 7'+....at 3 or so?.........PASS......after that huge P12 romp over OSU last week....I might consider Col here.....at 3BOL boys..............................



    BA...always been a fan of your insight and analysis. Wanted to know how feel about Nevada +25?
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    sorry boys running behind.......plus wanna RELAX / watch the gamesMy 'what the line should be'....with notes / leans for week 2 up late Sat / early Sunday....should ready to go for those delectable BetOnline openers .....anywhere from 11:00a > 2:00p C* plus 5Dimes has most week 2 up already....you can use those....THEN check Sagarin (not bad at all this year / esp this early)....maybe Massey's (his early #'s look  weak tho)....I've checked Bill C's numbers and they're not bad at all...... * BEST?.....lay out the $8-9... Gold Sheet's numbers.....these most  reflect the Vegas pointspread STOP.....using ESPN's.....or STEELE'S.......especially....those +/- ratings aren't worth a crap IN FACT :  my boi TD's numbers are BETTER than both...    * with respect to Double-Up.....his are really good but reflect his own opinions more > thus more suited for his own use > (less reflective of Vegas point-spread).................IMOTODAY....Gotta be Ohio St or nothing.....UNDER looks like the way to go if anything...........Buckeyes could beat the hell outta them....or maybe their O could struggle.....yet againGotta be Buffalo or nothing.....LEAN......ULM for me.....either way looks likeYou're crazy to bet EITHER ASU ....or NMSU.....kinda sorta like NMSU......BUT they could get destroyed here....over.... a definite look...as both should be able to RUN here  * how awesome would it be....for Rose to rush for 350 or so > they beat ASU > run that POS Graham outta town?........... Gotta be ....FIU I would think...too many pointsOKIE ST?....too unpredictable in this SPOT for me....but gotta be them or nothing hereIN-GAME / halftime?........  * looking for OFFENSES.....that WILL move it at some pointOkie St.....if they start slow.....Memphis ditto........Ariz St?.....I'll be watching this one closely.....slow start a definite possibility....I don't see how NMSU stops their running game for 4Qtrs.....if NMSU is running well.....OVER maybe betterI would imagine.....that UCF finds a way to WIN.....if they start slow.....Butch may have FIU playing TOUGH......or they might stink.....I say they play UCF toughBuckeyes struggle early?....REALLY tough to see losing here...  * probably WRONG to assume...they move the ball well here....RECALL.....Indy HC Allen.....knows Wilson's tendencies as well.......................So.....nothing for me today.........lotta action tomorrow......  *unfortunately for SOME.................most value is long goneEM/CLT......stay awayLoved Rutgers at 31......at 27'?......pass or play in-game / halftime......I  would think.....Huskies get up early.....then CRUISE....as CP likes to do...so what appears to be a 40-0 game..........becomes a 40-13.....40-17......40-20 type game$$$$$   I see no reason for him to HUMILIATE Chris Ash / Rutgers here..........meaning put his 1st D back out there late to prevent a late score.....crap like thatI like FAU to play Navy tough.....bet it at 17' long time ago.....forgot to post sooooooo......currently I would pass at 10 or lessWisky / Utah St.....slight lean Utah StLike BC at 2'......at 4 or more?......pass / bet ML instead / in-game maybe..........Love(d) Col St at 7'+....at 3 or so?.........PASS......after that huge P12 romp over OSU last week....I might consider Col here.....at 3BOL boys..............................



    BA...always been a fan of your insight and analysis. Wanted to know how feel about Nevada +25?
     
     
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