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    Just got the call. And I really did just get the call. From my Alabama sharp on the Mizzou game

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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2014 - 11:56 PM ET #1

    I have several people I consult with on certain teams and Bama is one of them.

    When Bama has a big game, I call this guy for an opinion if he has one.

    When he calls me telling me a side on a Bama game? Well, that almost never happens. And when it does, I just put the bet in. Don't believe me? Suit yourself.

    This isn't some "Just Got the Call!!" Thread with just a pick. I have a write-up. 

    So in this case, I was interested in this game and I was waffling all week on the side I liked. Initially I liked Bama. After he called me and said take Missouri +14.5, I was done thinking.

    I had a long conversation with him, took notes and here is what he thinks about the game (he's not a big gambler but he knows Bama better than anyone I know and the value of a spread is not lost on him).

    So here is how our conversation went (I transcribed the finer points from his mouth to your ears):

    1) Bama's offense has been significantly less productive at non-home games. This is because Lane Kiffin has been helping Sims read defensive vulnerabilities before the snap at home and can easily communicate those reads when the home crowd is silent for them. On the road, Sims has looked much more lost during drives.


    2) Mizzou has made a nice little season for itself out of overlooked. My guess is that, after beating Auburn in a sweaty, intense Iron Bowl, Bama will have a significant drop in emotional intensity for at least the first quarter.


    3) Mizzou has an excellent pass rush with their DE's. Sending Amari Cooper deep to torch single coverage is fun, but Sims will need 3 seconds or so to see if he beat the coverage. In that time, I think the pocket will be collapsing on him, and Bama will lose the big play passes that more or less was the source of about 21 points against Auburn.


    4) Alabama's secondary was exposed against Auburn. Anytime that Nick Marshall throws for 450 yards against you, you have a coverage problem. Coates beat his man routinely in that game, leading to multiple gigantic TD's. Mizzou will be looking to exploit the same weakness, and Bama may overcompensate, making running the ball easier as they reinforce the CB's.


    5) Bama doesn't deserve to be giving 14 points to hardly anyone this year. They have a consistency problem, and while Lane Kiffin's exceptional offensive strategy has largely covered over the variance, Bama hasn't played a full game this year. LSU, Miss. St., Arkansas, Auburn. All wins, all by less than 14, all choppy, unnecessarily dangerous games that could've been lost. In other words, Bama could easily be 8-4 right now instead of 11-1. Their record is misleading as to their dominance.


    6) Alabama's FG kicker, Griffith, has been a psycho for weeks now. I expected him to have cost us a game by now, but since he hasn't, this looks like a good spot as any for it. He flat out cannot be trusted to be consistent in clutch spots in big games. If Bama is forced to settle for FG's, he will bleed points for them.


    I'll add more: Bama ATS this year? A horrendous 4-8 and that includes and OT cover of -6.5 over LSU where, one of the biggest mooses of the season for LSU backers. 


    Also, people look at Mizzou and say, "THEY GOT BEAT by Indiana!"  I followed Indiana all year. That was a completely different team. A bad loss no doubt but nowhere near as bad a loss if it were the current Indiana team.


    Then they got killed by Georgia. That was a strange spot and the 'ol "star player out/other players step up" rule was in effect as that was the first game for UGA without Gurley. Another bad loss but it wasn't the same UGA team on the field that day. They've cleaned up their act since those games. And this isn't just some normal Lazy Saturday game. This is the SEC Championship and this is quite a line when a championship of any kind is on the line.


    I think I've provided enough here.


    The pick (not much to think about from my end/fade away if you'd like):


    MISSOURI +14.5 over BAMA

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    I have several people I consult with on certain teams and Bama is one of them.

    When Bama has a big game, I call this guy for an opinion if he has one.

    When he calls me telling me a side on a Bama game? Well, that almost never happens. And when it does, I just put the bet in. Don't believe me? Suit yourself.

    This isn't some "Just Got the Call!!" Thread with just a pick. I have a write-up. 

    So in this case, I was interested in this game and I was waffling all week on the side I liked. Initially I liked Bama. After he called me and said take Missouri +14.5, I was done thinking.

    I had a long conversation with him, took notes and here is what he thinks about the game (he's not a big gambler but he knows Bama better than anyone I know and the value of a spread is not lost on him).

    So here is how our conversation went (I transcribed the finer points from his mouth to your ears):

    1) Bama's offense has been significantly less productive at non-home games. This is because Lane Kiffin has been helping Sims read defensive vulnerabilities before the snap at home and can easily communicate those reads when the home crowd is silent for them. On the road, Sims has looked much more lost during drives.


    2) Mizzou has made a nice little season for itself out of overlooked. My guess is that, after beating Auburn in a sweaty, intense Iron Bowl, Bama will have a significant drop in emotional intensity for at least the first quarter.


    3) Mizzou has an excellent pass rush with their DE's. Sending Amari Cooper deep to torch single coverage is fun, but Sims will need 3 seconds or so to see if he beat the coverage. In that time, I think the pocket will be collapsing on him, and Bama will lose the big play passes that more or less was the source of about 21 points against Auburn.


    4) Alabama's secondary was exposed against Auburn. Anytime that Nick Marshall throws for 450 yards against you, you have a coverage problem. Coates beat his man routinely in that game, leading to multiple gigantic TD's. Mizzou will be looking to exploit the same weakness, and Bama may overcompensate, making running the ball easier as they reinforce the CB's.


    5) Bama doesn't deserve to be giving 14 points to hardly anyone this year. They have a consistency problem, and while Lane Kiffin's exceptional offensive strategy has largely covered over the variance, Bama hasn't played a full game this year. LSU, Miss. St., Arkansas, Auburn. All wins, all by less than 14, all choppy, unnecessarily dangerous games that could've been lost. In other words, Bama could easily be 8-4 right now instead of 11-1. Their record is misleading as to their dominance.


    6) Alabama's FG kicker, Griffith, has been a psycho for weeks now. I expected him to have cost us a game by now, but since he hasn't, this looks like a good spot as any for it. He flat out cannot be trusted to be consistent in clutch spots in big games. If Bama is forced to settle for FG's, he will bleed points for them.


    I'll add more: Bama ATS this year? A horrendous 4-8 and that includes and OT cover of -6.5 over LSU where, one of the biggest mooses of the season for LSU backers. 


    Also, people look at Mizzou and say, "THEY GOT BEAT by Indiana!"  I followed Indiana all year. That was a completely different team. A bad loss no doubt but nowhere near as bad a loss if it were the current Indiana team.


    Then they got killed by Georgia. That was a strange spot and the 'ol "star player out/other players step up" rule was in effect as that was the first game for UGA without Gurley. Another bad loss but it wasn't the same UGA team on the field that day. They've cleaned up their act since those games. And this isn't just some normal Lazy Saturday game. This is the SEC Championship and this is quite a line when a championship of any kind is on the line.


    I think I've provided enough here.


    The pick (not much to think about from my end/fade away if you'd like):


    MISSOURI +14.5 over BAMA

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2014 - 11:59 PM ET #2

    Agree with it 100 per cent.

    BOL,
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2014 - 11:59 PM ET #3

    Difficult for me to take seriously since you didn't take the Jets

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    Difficult for me to take seriously since you didn't take the Jets

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:00 AM ET #4

    Just kidding. Thanks for the insight and some of it makes lots of sense.
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:04 AM ET #5

    good luck scal. getting the same read on this game. Just not a big believer in bama this year and Mizzou will be extremely scrappy in this game. Do not see a 20+ point win happening against them
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    good luck scal. getting the same read on this game. Just not a big believer in bama this year and Mizzou will be extremely scrappy in this game. Do not see a 20+ point win happening against them
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:07 AM ET #6

    I'm in. When you speak, I listen. Thank you. 
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:11 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by casheasy:

    Difficult for me to take seriously since you didn't take the Jets


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    Difficult for me to take seriously since you didn't take the Jets


     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:11 AM ET #8

    GL Scalabrine. Will lay off the game, just couldn't get a good read on this one. Thanks for your write-up. Good luck and happy holidays.
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    GL Scalabrine. Will lay off the game, just couldn't get a good read on this one. Thanks for your write-up. Good luck and happy holidays.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:12 AM ET #9

    GL Scal I'm a big bama fan but hate betting on or against them. My heart gets in the way of logical thinking, but I have to agree here I'm taking the points  but hope bama wins  roll tide 
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    GL Scal I'm a big bama fan but hate betting on or against them. My heart gets in the way of logical thinking, but I have to agree here I'm taking the points  but hope bama wins  roll tide 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:14 AM ET #10

    how many balls can u jugle now, give us a break. 
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:15 AM ET #11

    did he just call you for the first time all year, 
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    did he just call you for the first time all year, 
     
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    agree or not with the play but i will always read scalabrines write up...one of my favorite things coming onto this site.   
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    why not read it, it’s free, you knew this ego maniac wasnt leaving as he said last sunday after the giants debacle. 
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    why not read it, it’s free, you knew this ego maniac wasnt leaving as he said last sunday after the giants debacle. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:23 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by dumbfoundead:

    agree or not with the play but i will always read scalabrines write up...one of my favorite things coming onto this site.   

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    agree or not with the play but i will always read scalabrines write up...one of my favorite things coming onto this site.   

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:24 AM ET #15

    Points 1, 3, & 6 are huge, in my opinion.  I'm with ya at +14.5  
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    Points 1, 3, & 6 are huge, in my opinion.  I'm with ya at +14.5  
     
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    Any chance I can have your moles number?..
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:36 AM ET #18

    Would his name by chance be Elmer Fudd? Is this the only time Elmer has called you all year on a Bama play.  

    I hope you hit one of these write-ups but when it loses do we blame Elmer for the incoming call? 


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    Would his name by chance be Elmer Fudd? Is this the only time Elmer has called you all year on a Bama play.  

    I hope you hit one of these write-ups but when it loses do we blame Elmer for the incoming call? 


     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:40 AM ET #19

    Yeah, I gotta agree with this pick.  Was leaning over too.  But I agree, Bama's not a 14 point fave at a neutral site vs a decent team.  Just hope Mizzou has enough offense in them to make a decent run.  They have nothing to lose really, so might as well take their best shot.

    On a side note, and this is nitpicky, but Bama is technically 4-7-1 ATS this year, as the FAU game was called with more than 5 minutes left (which is the general rule I think).  I know I was on Bama that day -40.5 and they led 41-0 with the ball inside the ten of FAU when it was called.  Probably would have covered.  Anyway, as I said, nitpicky, just jarred my memory!

    BOL on the play........haven't played it myself, but will probably take a shot.

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    Yeah, I gotta agree with this pick.  Was leaning over too.  But I agree, Bama's not a 14 point fave at a neutral site vs a decent team.  Just hope Mizzou has enough offense in them to make a decent run.  They have nothing to lose really, so might as well take their best shot.

    On a side note, and this is nitpicky, but Bama is technically 4-7-1 ATS this year, as the FAU game was called with more than 5 minutes left (which is the general rule I think).  I know I was on Bama that day -40.5 and they led 41-0 with the ball inside the ten of FAU when it was called.  Probably would have covered.  Anyway, as I said, nitpicky, just jarred my memory!

    BOL on the play........haven't played it myself, but will probably take a shot.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 12:41 AM ET #20

    Alabama will smoke Missouri 

    Thanks for the fade 
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    Thanks for the fade 
     
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    Bama doesnt deserve to give 14 points to anybody?Scal,u know CFB better than that.They beat Texas A&M 59-0 who hung w Mizzou most of game.Bama will be fired up tmrw.The SEC Championship is almost as big as it gets.Don't listen to me I've bet against Mizzou against TxA&M,Tenn and Ark( lost a PacKaGe)coming up short on all 3.Mizz was my Money team making largest play of 2013 on Mizzou against Ole Miss.Marshall passed the ball the best he ever had as an Auburn Tiger against Bama.If Sammy & Duke would have just CAUGHT the ball in the end zone.It costed Auburn 22points and Bama had Zero influence on any of the drops.With that being said Sims played the worse half of football he played all season in 1st half,but all it did was motivate him to have a great 2nd half.Cooper might have well been missing on a milk box last year.He will be even better than Julio Jones who made Patrick Peterson look like a clown last Sunday.U can bet Bama's defense got their a## deemed all week getting blistered for 600+ yards in the Iron Bowl which is unheard of.Mizzou wont be able to muster any offense.I will predict their offense won't score 10+ points,but their D and excellent special teams could score.Pinkel is an excellent coach and I don't think any of us will know how Indiana beat them.God knows that's the Big 10's Rally Cry "Our O fer Indiana beat the SEC Champion" I would happily lose my wager to see Bama get beat,but Saban is just too good.This Bama team is right there with 2011-12 teams as much as I hate to admit it.Kiffin has done a good job and looks to me the frontrunner in the most prestigious coach's award in all of Sports-The Frank Broyles Asst Coach of the year..Just my opinion and I'm prob the only person u will ever hear say that.This bet is a lot like the Cowboys bet...They should cover,but they have lost me money in so many big time wagers this year..Bama should cover.Oregon just scored again.Oregon under 37 1st half and -7.5 2nd half was like stealing candy from a baby.I played a little Cincy,Bama,Buckeye 3game par.Im gonna enjoy watching the football games after morning workout & play college baskets all day grinding them rmthen I'm taking a quarter of what I win and putting it on Josh Samman+135 UFC 182 Sat night or is it 181Theb I'm running Full Press Sunday with Live betting,2nd halves,sides,totals,TT,teasers,couple pars..Good looking NFL card Sun...SoCal,I will go back and read the rest of write up .It's always a good read even if I do disagree.I make bets based on what I think the teams' emotions are based on,but not near as much as u my friend.I appreciate u taking the time to share your thoughts.Best of Luck tmrw.Take Josh Sat night..U want to go emotional Josh S pleaded with Dana White to have this fight on Sat night because 2years ago Sat his girlfriend hit a truck while texting him and died.He trains in my buddy 's gym and his brother coaches him.He will win.
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    Bama doesnt deserve to give 14 points to anybody?Scal,u know CFB better than that.They beat Texas A&M 59-0 who hung w Mizzou most of game.Bama will be fired up tmrw.The SEC Championship is almost as big as it gets.Don't listen to me I've bet against Mizzou against TxA&M,Tenn and Ark( lost a PacKaGe)coming up short on all 3.Mizz was my Money team making largest play of 2013 on Mizzou against Ole Miss.Marshall passed the ball the best he ever had as an Auburn Tiger against Bama.If Sammy & Duke would have just CAUGHT the ball in the end zone.It costed Auburn 22points and Bama had Zero influence on any of the drops.With that being said Sims played the worse half of football he played all season in 1st half,but all it did was motivate him to have a great 2nd half.Cooper might have well been missing on a milk box last year.He will be even better than Julio Jones who made Patrick Peterson look like a clown last Sunday.U can bet Bama's defense got their a## deemed all week getting blistered for 600+ yards in the Iron Bowl which is unheard of.Mizzou wont be able to muster any offense.I will predict their offense won't score 10+ points,but their D and excellent special teams could score.Pinkel is an excellent coach and I don't think any of us will know how Indiana beat them.God knows that's the Big 10's Rally Cry "Our O fer Indiana beat the SEC Champion" I would happily lose my wager to see Bama get beat,but Saban is just too good.This Bama team is right there with 2011-12 teams as much as I hate to admit it.Kiffin has done a good job and looks to me the frontrunner in the most prestigious coach's award in all of Sports-The Frank Broyles Asst Coach of the year..Just my opinion and I'm prob the only person u will ever hear say that.This bet is a lot like the Cowboys bet...They should cover,but they have lost me money in so many big time wagers this year..Bama should cover.Oregon just scored again.Oregon under 37 1st half and -7.5 2nd half was like stealing candy from a baby.I played a little Cincy,Bama,Buckeye 3game par.Im gonna enjoy watching the football games after morning workout & play college baskets all day grinding them rmthen I'm taking a quarter of what I win and putting it on Josh Samman+135 UFC 182 Sat night or is it 181Theb I'm running Full Press Sunday with Live betting,2nd halves,sides,totals,TT,teasers,couple pars..Good looking NFL card Sun...SoCal,I will go back and read the rest of write up .It's always a good read even if I do disagree.I make bets based on what I think the teams' emotions are based on,but not near as much as u my friend.I appreciate u taking the time to share your thoughts.Best of Luck tmrw.Take Josh Sat night..U want to go emotional Josh S pleaded with Dana White to have this fight on Sat night because 2years ago Sat his girlfriend hit a truck while texting him and died.He trains in my buddy 's gym and his brother coaches him.He will win.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAPT-DOUCHE:

    why not read it, it’s free, you knew this ego maniac wasnt leaving as he said last sunday after the giants debacle. 

    why the fck do you insist on coming in here if you just hate on him? 

    when the giants were up at halftime, you would of sucked on 4 nuts to buy out ur jax wager... then out of the woods you appear... 
    i bet on jax.. but i dont bash a guy when hes down... 
    you really need to grow up kid... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAPT-DOUCHE:

    why not read it, it’s free, you knew this ego maniac wasnt leaving as he said last sunday after the giants debacle. 

    why the fck do you insist on coming in here if you just hate on him? 

    when the giants were up at halftime, you would of sucked on 4 nuts to buy out ur jax wager... then out of the woods you appear... 
    i bet on jax.. but i dont bash a guy when hes down... 
    you really need to grow up kid... 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 1:07 AM ET #23

    Grow up ? View the thread title once again, next week it will be his belly dancer friend and then the week after we get the sword swallower friend.

    Give me a break, first time he’s ever called, you must not be wrapped to tight to buy into this bologna. 
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    Grow up ? View the thread title once again, next week it will be his belly dancer friend and then the week after we get the sword swallower friend.

    Give me a break, first time he’s ever called, you must not be wrapped to tight to buy into this bologna. 
     
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    This is some funny schit, when Bama wins by 21 that guy is going to post 100 posts calling Scal the N word.
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    This is some funny schit, when Bama wins by 21 that guy is going to post 100 posts calling Scal the N word.
     
     
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    i get with you bro



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