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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:31 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ86:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: @Ravensfan2k3  And you are still clueless. Franklin didn't throw the pick.who had them passing in the first place? That was terrible a terrible decision to even be throwing there So you would rather run the triple option?   Do you even watch football?i clearly stated to go to OT. You’re saying running the triple option. Are you retarded? Yup. Didn't stutter. I'm just matching your absurd logic. Lets look at the factors 38 Seconds left 2 timeouts clock stops on first downs QB has a cannon (not say always accurate)   And you are saying to take a knee and go the OT. Would you tell your boy Lamar to do the same tomorrow against Pittsburgh?
    you’re matching my absurd logic but you’re comparing Drew Allar to Lamar Jackson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ86:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: @Ravensfan2k3  And you are still clueless. Franklin didn't throw the pick.who had them passing in the first place? That was terrible a terrible decision to even be throwing there So you would rather run the triple option?   Do you even watch football?i clearly stated to go to OT. You’re saying running the triple option. Are you retarded? Yup. Didn't stutter. I'm just matching your absurd logic. Lets look at the factors 38 Seconds left 2 timeouts clock stops on first downs QB has a cannon (not say always accurate)   And you are saying to take a knee and go the OT. Would you tell your boy Lamar to do the same tomorrow against Pittsburgh?
    you’re matching my absurd logic but you’re comparing Drew Allar to Lamar Jackson?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:32 PM ET #27

    Why wouldn’t you go for the win there? A couple passes and you’re in field goal range. Go for the win. Playing for OT was not the play. 

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    Why wouldn’t you go for the win there? A couple passes and you’re in field goal range. Go for the win. Playing for OT was not the play. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:34 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3:

    Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Just wow   How the hell is it his fault for them losing this game? Drew Allar lost them this damn game.40 seconds left, tie game. Absolutely ZERO reason why you should be pushing the ball down field with Drew Allar as your quarterback. Take the damn game to OT!! You play to win the damn game! Allar is supposedly the top quarterback to come out next year’s draft class right? Why the fuck wouldn’t you try to win the game with him? Come on dog, use your damn common sense.yeah because common sense says to have my average QB throwing into a top 5 secondary who has picked off my QB multiple times already but got bailed out by refs when ny strength was in the trenches, and I could have exploited that in OT

    Wrong. You go for the win now. And if no one is open you either throw it out of bounds or you slide in bounds to run out the clock. But you give it a shot. This is 100% on the QB. Not on Franklin. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3:

    Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Just wow   How the hell is it his fault for them losing this game? Drew Allar lost them this damn game.40 seconds left, tie game. Absolutely ZERO reason why you should be pushing the ball down field with Drew Allar as your quarterback. Take the damn game to OT!! You play to win the damn game! Allar is supposedly the top quarterback to come out next year’s draft class right? Why the fuck wouldn’t you try to win the game with him? Come on dog, use your damn common sense.yeah because common sense says to have my average QB throwing into a top 5 secondary who has picked off my QB multiple times already but got bailed out by refs when ny strength was in the trenches, and I could have exploited that in OT

    Wrong. You go for the win now. And if no one is open you either throw it out of bounds or you slide in bounds to run out the clock. But you give it a shot. This is 100% on the QB. Not on Franklin. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:35 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3:

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: @Ravensfan2k3  And you are still clueless. Franklin didn't throw the pick.who had them passing in the first place? That was terrible a terrible decision to even be throwing there So you would rather run the triple option?   Do you even watch football?i clearly stated to go to OT. You’re saying running the triple option. Are you retarded? Yup. Didn't stutter. I'm just matching your absurd logic. Lets look at the factors 38 Seconds left 2 timeouts clock stops on first downs QB has a cannon (not say always accurate)   And you are saying to take a knee and go the OT. Would you tell your boy Lamar to do the same tomorrow against Pittsburgh?you’re matching my absurd logic but you’re comparing Drew Allar to Lamar Jackson?

    I'm matching James Franklin to John Harbaugh. He makes the calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3:

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: @Ravensfan2k3  And you are still clueless. Franklin didn't throw the pick.who had them passing in the first place? That was terrible a terrible decision to even be throwing there So you would rather run the triple option?   Do you even watch football?i clearly stated to go to OT. You’re saying running the triple option. Are you retarded? Yup. Didn't stutter. I'm just matching your absurd logic. Lets look at the factors 38 Seconds left 2 timeouts clock stops on first downs QB has a cannon (not say always accurate)   And you are saying to take a knee and go the OT. Would you tell your boy Lamar to do the same tomorrow against Pittsburgh?you’re matching my absurd logic but you’re comparing Drew Allar to Lamar Jackson?

    I'm matching James Franklin to John Harbaugh. He makes the calls.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:35 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by rgiefer:

    Why wouldn’t you go for the win there? A couple passes and you’re in field goal range. Go for the win. Playing for OT was not the play.
    you say a couple passes like any body can just line up under center and make those passes. You have to know your team’s strengths and weaknesses and having Drew back there you have to realize having him dropping back to drive down the field was not the best idea. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgiefer:

    Why wouldn’t you go for the win there? A couple passes and you’re in field goal range. Go for the win. Playing for OT was not the play.
    you say a couple passes like any body can just line up under center and make those passes. You have to know your team’s strengths and weaknesses and having Drew back there you have to realize having him dropping back to drive down the field was not the best idea. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:35 PM ET #31

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     Not on Franklin, he's now 1 -15.

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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     Not on Franklin, he's now 1 -15.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:37 PM ET #32

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     The kid has the mental fortitude of a child.

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     The kid has the mental fortitude of a child.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:37 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3:

    Quote Originally Posted by rgiefer: Why wouldn’t you go for the win there? A couple passes and you’re in field goal range. Go for the win. Playing for OT was not the play.you say a couple passes like any body can just line up under center and make those passes. You have to know your team’s strengths and weaknesses and having Drew back there you have to realize having him dropping back to drive down the field was not the best idea.

    You are aware that scouts (not me) say that if he re-classifies for this draft he would go top 3. I guess he's not that awful. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3:

    Quote Originally Posted by rgiefer: Why wouldn’t you go for the win there? A couple passes and you’re in field goal range. Go for the win. Playing for OT was not the play.you say a couple passes like any body can just line up under center and make those passes. You have to know your team’s strengths and weaknesses and having Drew back there you have to realize having him dropping back to drive down the field was not the best idea.

    You are aware that scouts (not me) say that if he re-classifies for this draft he would go top 3. I guess he's not that awful. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:37 PM ET #34

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     He sucks in big games…..that is a fact. 

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     He sucks in big games…..that is a fact. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ86:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Just wow   How the hell is it his fault for them losing this game? Drew Allar lost them this damn game.40 seconds left, tie game. Absolutely ZERO reason why you should be pushing the ball down field with Drew Allar as your quarterback. Take the damn game to OT!! You play to win the damn game! Allar is supposedly the top quarterback to come out next year’s draft class right? Why the fuck wouldn’t you try to win the game with him? Come on dog, use your damn common sense.yeah because common sense says to have my average QB throwing into a top 5 secondary who has picked off my QB multiple times already but got bailed out by refs when ny strength was in the trenches, and I could have exploited that in OT Wrong. You go for the win now. And if no one is open you either throw it out of bounds or you slide in bounds to run out the clock. But you give it a shot. This is 100% on the QB. Not on Franklin.
    as a good coach you gotta know your QB is not capable to do this and not put him in a position to look bad. That’s exactly what Franklin did. He basically said fuck it, what’s worst that could happen instead of putting his team in the best position to win. You sir do not know ball. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ86:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Just wow   How the hell is it his fault for them losing this game? Drew Allar lost them this damn game.40 seconds left, tie game. Absolutely ZERO reason why you should be pushing the ball down field with Drew Allar as your quarterback. Take the damn game to OT!! You play to win the damn game! Allar is supposedly the top quarterback to come out next year’s draft class right? Why the fuck wouldn’t you try to win the game with him? Come on dog, use your damn common sense.yeah because common sense says to have my average QB throwing into a top 5 secondary who has picked off my QB multiple times already but got bailed out by refs when ny strength was in the trenches, and I could have exploited that in OT Wrong. You go for the win now. And if no one is open you either throw it out of bounds or you slide in bounds to run out the clock. But you give it a shot. This is 100% on the QB. Not on Franklin.
    as a good coach you gotta know your QB is not capable to do this and not put him in a position to look bad. That’s exactly what Franklin did. He basically said fuck it, what’s worst that could happen instead of putting his team in the best position to win. You sir do not know ball. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:38 PM ET #36

    Notre Dame bettor here.

    Absolutely wrong decision for Franklin to get aggressive there at the end.  Same exact thing as Kirby Smart 1H vs Notre Dame.  Cost them both the game.  

    Allar was terrible all night. Run the ball. As someone said you owned the trenches. Run the ball, maybe a jet sweep or some sort of trick play, misdirection and hope you rip a big run and then you can start chucking.  

    This was classic James Franklin.

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    Notre Dame bettor here.

    Absolutely wrong decision for Franklin to get aggressive there at the end.  Same exact thing as Kirby Smart 1H vs Notre Dame.  Cost them both the game.  

    Allar was terrible all night. Run the ball. As someone said you owned the trenches. Run the ball, maybe a jet sweep or some sort of trick play, misdirection and hope you rip a big run and then you can start chucking.  

    This was classic James Franklin.

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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:38 PM ET #37

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     Franklin is 2-1 in CFP games.

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     Franklin is 2-1 in CFP games.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:38 PM ET #38

    Obviously, Penn St should have gone for the win.  To suggest they should have played for OT is ridiculous.

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    Obviously, Penn St should have gone for the win.  To suggest they should have played for OT is ridiculous.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:38 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    @AJ86  He sucks in big games…..that is a fact.
    and he showed it today 

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    @AJ86  He sucks in big games…..that is a fact.
    and he showed it today 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2025 - 11:39 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    @AJ86  He sucks in big games…..that is a fact.

    This loss is 100% on Allar. Not Franklin. They had a chance to win at the end and the QB made a bad decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    @AJ86  He sucks in big games…..that is a fact.

    This loss is 100% on Allar. Not Franklin. They had a chance to win at the end and the QB made a bad decision.

     
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     Stop with this nonsense. Penn State played two Group 5 teams essentially. Smu and Boise?? C'Mon

    Franklin is a goof. I think this makes him like 1-13 vs AP top 10 teams.  Brutal

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     Stop with this nonsense. Penn State played two Group 5 teams essentially. Smu and Boise?? C'Mon

    Franklin is a goof. I think this makes him like 1-13 vs AP top 10 teams.  Brutal

     
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     Find me one scout that says he goes too 3. He is terrible. See my write up for the game where I called for an Irish victory because he would throw a game changing int!!! He isn’t top 3 round material…..

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     Find me one scout that says he goes too 3. He is terrible. See my write up for the game where I called for an Irish victory because he would throw a game changing int!!! He isn’t top 3 round material…..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3:

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Just wow   How the hell is it his fault for them losing this game? Drew Allar lost them this damn game.40 seconds left, tie game. Absolutely ZERO reason why you should be pushing the ball down field with Drew Allar as your quarterback. Take the damn game to OT!! You play to win the damn game! Allar is supposedly the top quarterback to come out next year’s draft class right? Why the fuck wouldn’t you try to win the game with him? Come on dog, use your damn common sense.yeah because common sense says to have my average QB throwing into a top 5 secondary who has picked off my QB multiple times already but got bailed out by refs when ny strength was in the trenches, and I could have exploited that in OT Wrong. You go for the win now. And if no one is open you either throw it out of bounds or you slide in bounds to run out the clock. But you give it a shot. This is 100% on the QB. Not on Franklin.as a good coach you gotta know your QB is not capable to do this and not put him in a position to look bad. That’s exactly what Franklin did. He basically said fuck it, what’s worst that could happen instead of putting his team in the best position to win. You sir do not know ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3:

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ86: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Quote Originally Posted by DopeBoy95s: Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3: Just wow   How the hell is it his fault for them losing this game? Drew Allar lost them this damn game.40 seconds left, tie game. Absolutely ZERO reason why you should be pushing the ball down field with Drew Allar as your quarterback. Take the damn game to OT!! You play to win the damn game! Allar is supposedly the top quarterback to come out next year’s draft class right? Why the fuck wouldn’t you try to win the game with him? Come on dog, use your damn common sense.yeah because common sense says to have my average QB throwing into a top 5 secondary who has picked off my QB multiple times already but got bailed out by refs when ny strength was in the trenches, and I could have exploited that in OT Wrong. You go for the win now. And if no one is open you either throw it out of bounds or you slide in bounds to run out the clock. But you give it a shot. This is 100% on the QB. Not on Franklin.as a good coach you gotta know your QB is not capable to do this and not put him in a position to look bad. That’s exactly what Franklin did. He basically said fuck it, what’s worst that could happen instead of putting his team in the best position to win. You sir do not know ball.

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    “Penn State's coach, James Franklin owns an abysmal 4-19 record against opponents ranked in the Associated Press top 10 -- and is just 3-10 in such games when his team is also in the top 10.” 
    Today he did what he normally does…loses a big game. Whether it being qbs fault or his, it was bound to happen.   
    His players let him down at the end this time

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    “Penn State's coach, James Franklin owns an abysmal 4-19 record against opponents ranked in the Associated Press top 10 -- and is just 3-10 in such games when his team is also in the top 10.” 
    Today he did what he normally does…loses a big game. Whether it being qbs fault or his, it was bound to happen.   
    His players let him down at the end this time

     
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     4-19 record

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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     4-19 record

     
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     4 - 19 against Top 10 teams.

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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     4 - 19 against Top 10 teams.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

    Absolutely moronic to blame Rich Franklin for thst loss, you just have been dropped on your head and I’m not a Rich Franklin fan. The only blame he can get is by thinking Drew Allard is a competent qb at any level. The kid is complete trash. Any qb with half a brain should be trusted with the ball in that situation. If no guy is wide open you run yourself throw it away, very basic. The kid is abysmal. He will suck next season too. Every ounce of that loss is all on him. Notre Dame was outplayed in every facet of the game except for Allard.

     

    Which is why you don't put the ball in his hands at the end in a crunch situation.  You are proving the opposite of your point.

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    Absolutely moronic to blame Rich Franklin for thst loss, you just have been dropped on your head and I’m not a Rich Franklin fan. The only blame he can get is by thinking Drew Allard is a competent qb at any level. The kid is complete trash. Any qb with half a brain should be trusted with the ball in that situation. If no guy is wide open you run yourself throw it away, very basic. The kid is abysmal. He will suck next season too. Every ounce of that loss is all on him. Notre Dame was outplayed in every facet of the game except for Allard.

     

    Which is why you don't put the ball in his hands at the end in a crunch situation.  You are proving the opposite of your point.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    @AJ86  Find me one scout that says he goes too 3. He is terrible. See my write up for the game where I called for an Irish victory because he would throw a game changing int!!! He isn’t top 3 round material…..

     

    I never implied I thought he was top 3 material. I am talking about what I am reading. I agree. Its overblown. He has a strong arm and can run a bit. His football IQ and accuracy is mediocre at best.

    He is a project 100%.

    But he will go back to Penn St next year, put up decent numbers and the hype machine will pump his draft status out of reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    @AJ86  Find me one scout that says he goes too 3. He is terrible. See my write up for the game where I called for an Irish victory because he would throw a game changing int!!! He isn’t top 3 round material…..

     

    I never implied I thought he was top 3 material. I am talking about what I am reading. I agree. Its overblown. He has a strong arm and can run a bit. His football IQ and accuracy is mediocre at best.

    He is a project 100%.

    But he will go back to Penn St next year, put up decent numbers and the hype machine will pump his draft status out of reality.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaridadDelCobre:

    @AJ86  Stop with this nonsense. Penn State played two Group 5 teams essentially. Smu and Boise?? C'Mon Franklin is a goof. I think this makes him like 1-13 vs AP top 10 teams.  Brutal

    So how did he "lose" this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaridadDelCobre:

    @AJ86  Stop with this nonsense. Penn State played two Group 5 teams essentially. Smu and Boise?? C'Mon Franklin is a goof. I think this makes him like 1-13 vs AP top 10 teams.  Brutal

    So how did he "lose" this game.

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