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#201
With you on MISS. STATE.. BOL TO US! 
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#203
just a thought on your one liner for byu/tulsa game. byu hasnt played a clearly tougher schedule. actually tulsa has sos of 55 and byu 97 according to sagarin. take the best 4 teams each has played and its not close tulsa played okla ok st boise and hou. byu played tcu tex utah utah st. no disrespect youve clearly been on a roll. gl with your plays
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Jimmy great run so far. I was wondering what season BYU played a tough schedule. They have one win against a team with a winning recored this year. I do agree with the veteran, more mature aspect but Tulsa has a decent offense and should be able to outscore this team in the end. Good luck the rest of the way I will defineny be following.
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Jimmy, I bet you were 
on that FSU game for a little while. 
Great win though, and great bowl season so far brother. Keep up the good work. I'm not playing much today, but I'm on the other side of the Oklahoma game. I'd love to have Coker obviously, but I question how motivated Oklahoma will be and I think Vandenburg will move the ball on the Sooners defense. GL though, not happy about being on the other side they way you're picking 'em right now. BOL
on that FSU game for a little while. Great win though, and great bowl season so far brother. Keep up the good work. I'm not playing much today, but I'm on the other side of the Oklahoma game. I'd love to have Coker obviously, but I question how motivated Oklahoma will be and I think Vandenburg will move the ball on the Sooners defense. GL though, not happy about being on the other side they way you're picking 'em right now. BOL
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#207
Probably going to play the Miss State game but I lean all the games that you have on deck. Not sure why you like Oklahoma though, tons of injuries to very key players and betting on Bob stoops in bowl games is usually a 
killer. Not sure where the motivation is also, this is a team that was suppose to be in the BCS NT and is now playing against Iowa in the Insight bowl lol.
killer. Not sure where the motivation is also, this is a team that was suppose to be in the BCS NT and is now playing against Iowa in the Insight bowl lol. 0
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#213
Quote Originally Posted by jsw64:
>>>A play on the SEC and a fade on the ACC. I hate fading Al Groh though. I think he's one of the most underrated coaches in the country. <<<
Umm, Groh hasn't been the coach at WF for like 3 years now if I am not mistaken-he is the DC at GaTech and and not a good one at that.
>>>A play on the SEC and a fade on the ACC. I hate fading Al Groh though. I think he's one of the most underrated coaches in the country. <<<
Umm, Groh hasn't been the coach at WF for like 3 years now if I am not mistaken-he is the DC at GaTech and and not a good one at that.
Al Groh was the coach at UVA but is now the DC at GT. I'm sure jimmy meant Jim Grobe instead.
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Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:
Probably going to play the Miss State game but I lean all the games that you have on deck. Not sure why you like Oklahoma though, tons of injuries to very key players and betting on Bob stoops in bowl games is usually a killer. Not sure where the motivation is also, this is a team that was suppose to be in the BCS NT and is now playing against Iowa in the Insight bowl lol.
Probably going to play the Miss State game but I lean all the games that you have on deck. Not sure why you like Oklahoma though, tons of injuries to very key players and betting on Bob stoops in bowl games is usually a
killer. Not sure where the motivation is also, this is a team that was suppose to be in the BCS NT and is now playing against Iowa in the Insight bowl lol. OU is undefeated under Stoops in non-BCS bowl games except for the Independence Bowl his first year in 1999...They won the 2001 Cotton Bowl over Arkansas only one year after winning the NC. They won the 2005 Holiday Bowl over Oregon and won the 2009 Sun Bowl over Stanford. All of these came during their run of playing in the BCS basically every year, so I have to disagree. The only argument you could make is a question of motivation since they are playing a weaker team than in years past, but not because they were supposed to make it to the NC game....that is what has happened in the other non-bcs bowl games and Bob won those.
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bjester -
good points- also the Oklahoma injuries were a long time ago and the new guys should have lots of playing/practice time under their belts. If they are in any way motivated they should win rather easily. They have superior talent, that doesn't always equate to covering the spread, but hopefully they will play like they are capable of playing.
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Quote Originally Posted by bjester:
OU is undefeated under Stoops in non-BCS bowl games except for the Independence Bowl his first year in 1999...They won the 2001 Cotton Bowl over Arkansas only one year after winning the NC. They won the 2005 Holiday Bowl over Oregon and won the 2009 Sun Bowl over Stanford. All of these came during their run of playing in the BCS basically every year, so I have to disagree. The only argument you could make is a question of motivation since they are playing a weaker team than in years past, but not because they were supposed to make it to the NC game....that is what has happened in the other non-bcs bowl games and Bob won those.
not trying to be a jerk, just made me think of this
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Quote Originally Posted by bjester:
OU is undefeated under Stoops in non-BCS bowl games except for the Independence Bowl his first year in 1999...They won the 2001 Cotton Bowl over Arkansas only one year after winning the NC. They won the 2005 Holiday Bowl over Oregon and won the 2009 Sun Bowl over Stanford. All of these came during their run of playing in the BCS basically every year, so I have to disagree. The only argument you could make is a question of motivation since they are playing a weaker team than in years past, but not because they were supposed to make it to the NC game....that is what has happened in the other non-bcs bowl games and Bob won those.
I'm guessing your a homer, but I look at games objectively. Bob stoops is 2-6 ATS in his last 8 bowl games, 1-4 ATS in their last 5. He's 6-6 in bowl games in general. We don't give a shit about winning straight up, we care about the spread. Bob stoops is mediocre straight up in bowls and pretty awful against the spread. Bet the Sooners cautiously.
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Quote Originally Posted by lbox24:
just a thought on your one liner for byu/tulsa game. byu hasnt played a clearly tougher schedule. actually tulsa has sos of 55 and byu 97 according to sagarin. take the best 4 teams each has played and its not close tulsa played okla ok st boise and hou. byu played tcu tex utah utah st. no disrespect youve clearly been on a roll. gl with your plays
just a thought on your one liner for byu/tulsa game. byu hasnt played a clearly tougher schedule. actually tulsa has sos of 55 and byu 97 according to sagarin. take the best 4 teams each has played and its not close tulsa played okla ok st boise and hou. byu played tcu tex utah utah st. no disrespect youve clearly been on a roll. gl with your plays
I was very tired last night and typing from memory. Forgot about Tulsa's early games against Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.
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Quote Originally Posted by jsw64:
>>>A play on the SEC and a fade on the ACC. I hate fading Al Groh though. I think he's one of the most underrated coaches in the country. <<<
Umm, Groh hasn't been the coach at WF for like 3 years now if I am not mistaken-he is the DC at GaTech and and not a good one at that.
>>>A play on the SEC and a fade on the ACC. I hate fading Al Groh though. I think he's one of the most underrated coaches in the country. <<<
Umm, Groh hasn't been the coach at WF for like 3 years now if I am not mistaken-he is the DC at GaTech and and not a good one at that.
I was pretty tired last night and typing from memory. Obviously I meant Jim Grobe not Al Groh. I always seem to mix them up.
Jim Grobe is never able to recruit any talent to Wake, yet he makes noise in the ACC almost every year. He went 5 & 3 again this season finishing only a game out of the Atlantic Division championship. He even won the ACC a few years ago with pretty much zero talent. Grobe is a guy who consistently does more with less.
Mississippi State is a far more talented team than Wake, and has played a much tougher schedule. They should be able to win the game today. It's the 6.5 points that worry me a little. Mississippi State hasn't exactly blown lesser opponents out this season.
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#222
Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:
Probably going to play the Miss State game but I lean all the games that you have on deck. Not sure why you like Oklahoma though, tons of injuries to very key players and betting on Bob stoops in bowl games is usually a killer. Not sure where the motivation is also, this is a team that was suppose to be in the BCS NT and is now playing against Iowa in the Insight bowl lol.
Probably going to play the Miss State game but I lean all the games that you have on deck. Not sure why you like Oklahoma though, tons of injuries to very key players and betting on Bob stoops in bowl games is usually a
killer. Not sure where the motivation is also, this is a team that was suppose to be in the BCS NT and is now playing against Iowa in the Insight bowl lol. It's not so much what I like about Oklahoma, it's what I don't like about Iowa. The few people I know who follow the Iowa program pretty closely all think they are going to get killed today.
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#225
Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:
I'm guessing your a homer, but I look at games objectively. Bob stoops is 2-6 ATS in his last 8 bowl games, 1-4 ATS in their last 5. He's 6-6 in bowl games in general. We don't give a shit about winning straight up, we care about the spread. Bob stoops is mediocre straight up in bowls and pretty awful against the spread. Bet the Sooners cautiously.
I'm guessing your a homer, but I look at games objectively. Bob stoops is 2-6 ATS in his last 8 bowl games, 1-4 ATS in their last 5. He's 6-6 in bowl games in general. We don't give a shit about winning straight up, we care about the spread. Bob stoops is mediocre straight up in bowls and pretty awful against the spread. Bet the Sooners cautiously.
I am from Oklahoma, but that's not the point I was trying to make. I agree Stoops has been pretty brutal in bowl games, especialIy if you only look at the record. I'm talking about motivation in non-bcs games and the fact that Stoops constantly plays top teams in bowl games, but not this year so it's different. Stoops is 1-4 out of last five, but 4 out of 5 were BCS games. Out of the 8 games you referenced, 6 of them were BCS games against talented teams. The only two that were not BCS or NC games were against talented Oregon and Stanford teams. That is not the case this year. Iowa is no where near the caliber of team Stoops usually faces in bowl games. It is tough to be good against the spread when you are constantly playing the BEST teams in the nation. This game is a total mismatch even with all the injuries OU is facing.
Looking at Stoops' bowl record and using it to cap this game is a mistake IMO because this is not a typical bowl game for him. Bear Bryant and Tom Osbourne had similar big bowl bowl droughts and what was the main reasoning people pionted to? The fact that they kept making it that far. It's impossible to have a BCS bowl losing streak when you don't even make it that far.
My main pint is...I think it is a mistake to only look at Stoops' bowl record and use that as fade material when OU is playing a bad Iowa team that has an even worse secondary than OU (and that is hard to do LOL). BOL in whichever side you take though. I think OU is the safest play on the board today if you can get it at less than 14
Looking at Stoops' bowl record and using it to cap this game is a mistake IMO because this is not a typical bowl game for him. Bear Bryant and Tom Osbourne had similar big bowl bowl droughts and what was the main reasoning people pionted to? The fact that they kept making it that far. It's impossible to have a BCS bowl losing streak when you don't even make it that far.
My main pint is...I think it is a mistake to only look at Stoops' bowl record and use that as fade material when OU is playing a bad Iowa team that has an even worse secondary than OU (and that is hard to do LOL). BOL in whichever side you take though. I think OU is the safest play on the board today if you can get it at less than 14
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