Its not the main pre-ssn thread .. I don't think anyway .. but might put a few ideas in here as we wrap up .. the supposed .. LONG PORTAL WINDOW .. would be interesting if that idea sticks but given everything else we've seen I kinda half wonder if the official portal has one window in January and some unofficial or work around portal emerges after spring ball .. recall just the MASSIVE number of xfers that shuffled around that window last year and why wouldn't there be as the kiiiids see their chances to play evaporate and injuries and other changes develop on the roster .. so yeah we'll see how that goes ..
Anyway .. the retard books might be droppin stuff early this year with the assumed lone portal and but just natty and heisman stuff for now .. I got a couple small fun things in early ..
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Its not the main pre-ssn thread .. I don't think anyway .. but might put a few ideas in here as we wrap up .. the supposed .. LONG PORTAL WINDOW .. would be interesting if that idea sticks but given everything else we've seen I kinda half wonder if the official portal has one window in January and some unofficial or work around portal emerges after spring ball .. recall just the MASSIVE number of xfers that shuffled around that window last year and why wouldn't there be as the kiiiids see their chances to play evaporate and injuries and other changes develop on the roster .. so yeah we'll see how that goes ..
Anyway .. the retard books might be droppin stuff early this year with the assumed lone portal and but just natty and heisman stuff for now .. I got a couple small fun things in early ..
Probably a little over my ski's here because I don't have the best idea what's on the roster .. the signal in the noise for me is going out and getting a QB like Sam Levitt .. there's certainly a chance he could play 2 years but it feels like very high price tag on him this year .. and does seem like he'll be ready to make the leap after a year on the Lane Train .. Bagging Lane was such a massive coup and I can't imagine LSU is thinking to play this hand like they did with Kelly waiting a few years building the roster the perfect chance to strike go in on the portal year 3 thinking it'll work that way .. no you paid for lane and if yer a big program like LSU yer taking your shots right away .. they have a great DC which was another coup to keep him around and bagging Sammy the next ASU xfer to LSU heisman dude feels like they are going all in .. 20-1 I can take a stab at it .. feels like as we get to 15x and under I really need to know exactly where this roster is at and how big of a shot is this team taking this year .. at these odds it even kinda feels like books don't see them as a legit contender .. but I wouldn't put anything past lane's ability to turn in an epic offense and this year might have more than enough on D to take this team into and thru the playoff ..
I doubt B365 still has these odds I took it from them right when Slammin Sammy Levitt announced he was going there .. yeah wouldn't say there's no play at 15 or less but again it does start to feel as we dip to those odds like we need a firmer handle on the roster .. so go get that and report back lol ..
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Probably a little over my ski's here because I don't have the best idea what's on the roster .. the signal in the noise for me is going out and getting a QB like Sam Levitt .. there's certainly a chance he could play 2 years but it feels like very high price tag on him this year .. and does seem like he'll be ready to make the leap after a year on the Lane Train .. Bagging Lane was such a massive coup and I can't imagine LSU is thinking to play this hand like they did with Kelly waiting a few years building the roster the perfect chance to strike go in on the portal year 3 thinking it'll work that way .. no you paid for lane and if yer a big program like LSU yer taking your shots right away .. they have a great DC which was another coup to keep him around and bagging Sammy the next ASU xfer to LSU heisman dude feels like they are going all in .. 20-1 I can take a stab at it .. feels like as we get to 15x and under I really need to know exactly where this roster is at and how big of a shot is this team taking this year .. at these odds it even kinda feels like books don't see them as a legit contender .. but I wouldn't put anything past lane's ability to turn in an epic offense and this year might have more than enough on D to take this team into and thru the playoff ..
I doubt B365 still has these odds I took it from them right when Slammin Sammy Levitt announced he was going there .. yeah wouldn't say there's no play at 15 or less but again it does start to feel as we dip to those odds like we need a firmer handle on the roster .. so go get that and report back lol ..
It's in-deed a bit mentally challenged to be loading up on heisman wagers at this juncture .. buuuut .. I did have a little early fun with these and think the move is to play some super long shots early .. as it turns out I came up w 3 RB's and one insaino QB idea .. mostly at a local book but FAN has a few as well .. shop around some places wildly looser odds than others ..
Don't go wild I'd say no more than .1 units on any play which is probably too much anyway .. the big picture is we're trying to secure the better odds on these kinda far flung ideas and I think most QB's are just not worth taking right now and we've at least had a solid RB candidate in recent years .. Okla State's guy needed to win his champ game .. we had the Boise St guy .. we had ND guy last year he needed a champ game to win and mighta at least been a hedge-able wager before Mendy finally threw for a first down in the champ game .. no hate to Mendy .. yeah he ugly cries and sounds a bit dorky but he proved why he deserved it .. IN EVERY WAY ..
Okay .. here we go ..
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AHMAD HARDY 100-1 .. Not quite the 500-1 MASSIVE POTENTIAL BANGER from last year is it .. but I still liked the call and what we were missing was Mizzou pulling off the big season .. Hardy is a proven major RB dude now with the spotlight he didn't have last year baked in .. media will key on him real quick if his numbers and highlights show up again .. once again the thing we need is the BIG MIZZOO season .. Pribula was such a huge disappointment IMO and I probably wouldn't play it if they didn't change that up .. Prib going to UVA feels like a much better fit .. Tigers bagged Austin Simmons and while sure he was replaced as the REBS QB we can all understand why that happened .. Anyone who wasn't sure how much of a MAJOR DUDE Trinny figured it out in the playoffs .. would love to see that guy get another year .. We know Simmons can play .. the big questions will be on the rest of the team including coaching changes which .. as some figured out as late as the natty .. is about as important a factor as any other .. RB's are very tricky to pick but I think we got 100x for the best heisman caliber RB candidate on a team that's off a stumble but been building each year and is a threat to make the SEC champ game which is at least what we'll need to get Hardy a legit shot in NY ..
Recall we were too early on Cam Ward at Wazoo a few years back with his 500-1 banger play .. and while he didn't ultimately win we were still 2 years early and on the wrong team .. .. I can't help but think history might repeat itself a little w this dude .. worth a small play ..
LJ MARTIN 250-1 .. BYU is another program that's just soooo on the cusp right now but the coaching and what they can turn in on the field without tons of MAJOR talent leads us to take these massive odds .. LJ had a massive year with most rush yds in the B12 .. a conf stacked with RB's to start the year .. he will be the unquestioned leader of the team into '26 .. they need to win the conf and get LJ close to 2k yds and for 250x I think there's more than decent chance of him being 'in the running' late in the year .. I don't know what BYU has top to bottom on their team but in the modern age they have dished out 2 years of MONSTER conf competitive seasons with proj ssn win totals of 4.5 and think they were barely expected to make a bowl last year .. no reason to doubt them this yr no matter what the roster looks like ..
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It's in-deed a bit mentally challenged to be loading up on heisman wagers at this juncture .. buuuut .. I did have a little early fun with these and think the move is to play some super long shots early .. as it turns out I came up w 3 RB's and one insaino QB idea .. mostly at a local book but FAN has a few as well .. shop around some places wildly looser odds than others ..
Don't go wild I'd say no more than .1 units on any play which is probably too much anyway .. the big picture is we're trying to secure the better odds on these kinda far flung ideas and I think most QB's are just not worth taking right now and we've at least had a solid RB candidate in recent years .. Okla State's guy needed to win his champ game .. we had the Boise St guy .. we had ND guy last year he needed a champ game to win and mighta at least been a hedge-able wager before Mendy finally threw for a first down in the champ game .. no hate to Mendy .. yeah he ugly cries and sounds a bit dorky but he proved why he deserved it .. IN EVERY WAY ..
Okay .. here we go ..
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AHMAD HARDY 100-1 .. Not quite the 500-1 MASSIVE POTENTIAL BANGER from last year is it .. but I still liked the call and what we were missing was Mizzou pulling off the big season .. Hardy is a proven major RB dude now with the spotlight he didn't have last year baked in .. media will key on him real quick if his numbers and highlights show up again .. once again the thing we need is the BIG MIZZOO season .. Pribula was such a huge disappointment IMO and I probably wouldn't play it if they didn't change that up .. Prib going to UVA feels like a much better fit .. Tigers bagged Austin Simmons and while sure he was replaced as the REBS QB we can all understand why that happened .. Anyone who wasn't sure how much of a MAJOR DUDE Trinny figured it out in the playoffs .. would love to see that guy get another year .. We know Simmons can play .. the big questions will be on the rest of the team including coaching changes which .. as some figured out as late as the natty .. is about as important a factor as any other .. RB's are very tricky to pick but I think we got 100x for the best heisman caliber RB candidate on a team that's off a stumble but been building each year and is a threat to make the SEC champ game which is at least what we'll need to get Hardy a legit shot in NY ..
Recall we were too early on Cam Ward at Wazoo a few years back with his 500-1 banger play .. and while he didn't ultimately win we were still 2 years early and on the wrong team .. .. I can't help but think history might repeat itself a little w this dude .. worth a small play ..
LJ MARTIN 250-1 .. BYU is another program that's just soooo on the cusp right now but the coaching and what they can turn in on the field without tons of MAJOR talent leads us to take these massive odds .. LJ had a massive year with most rush yds in the B12 .. a conf stacked with RB's to start the year .. he will be the unquestioned leader of the team into '26 .. they need to win the conf and get LJ close to 2k yds and for 250x I think there's more than decent chance of him being 'in the running' late in the year .. I don't know what BYU has top to bottom on their team but in the modern age they have dished out 2 years of MONSTER conf competitive seasons with proj ssn win totals of 4.5 and think they were barely expected to make a bowl last year .. no reason to doubt them this yr no matter what the roster looks like ..
TURBO RICHARD 300-1 .. Hey Turbo .. Psycho Cignetti here .. wanna ditch BC be the key RB to lead our B2B natty run ? .... ummm yeah lol .. all I can say is CIGGY knows how to pick em and Turbo was a lauded dude at BC and good chance Indy coaching staff gets every bit of major potential out of him .. we're up against another Indy QB in Josh Hoover and no doubt a MAJOR reconstruction of their natty roster .. but note Indy prob does lose 2 of their MAJOR WR's and this offense realllly knows how to run the ball and doesn't turn it over to backups right away .. he may have toooo much company in the backfield to breakout as a clear heisman candidate or may not be 'the dude' .. but 300-1 I can put what fan lets me so 22.50 to win 6750 .. fine let's see what happens ..
HUSAN LONGSTREET 500-1 .. WHOOOSAN? .. .. Former USC 5 STAR QB who xferred to LSU .. But isin't Sam Levitt there? .. yeah .. recall Austin Simmons was at Ole Miss last year too?... We haven't seen Longstreet get serious action yet but he looks like a potential MAJOR dude and I was pretty worried when picking TCU in the bowl game that this dude might come in to replace Maiiava and WRECK the whole game for me .. alas I can see USC not wanting to pay the extra money when they have a proven sure thing at QB .. the move to LSU is interesting because Longstreet is a MAJOR prospect and its high time he see the field .. very very peculiar move .. the guy looks every bit the pedigree and the arm and athleticism fit the bill .. he's an 'assumed' benchwarmer on a very very strong potential natty stacked team with a HC who will not care one bit who the best QB is, he's gunna play the best ..
The potential to make this a good play is probably with Sam not fully recovering from his injured foot by spring ball and / or re-aggrevating it .. could win the job .. could also xfer not rooting for injury but hell or high water if Longstreet won the QB1 job his odds are probably like 10 or 15-1 instantly and at 500x I think he's got better than decent chance of one thing or another happening and him just happening to be .. HIM .. yep .. just like in the movie lol ..
My big wonder with the Husan / Levitt situation is whether either QB has an escape hatch to the portal .. rules a bit diff this year and neither are a grad xfer or seemingly have any other reason why they'd be able to portal out of LSU after spring .. both would have every motivation to do so .. that situation in my mind would be better and make more sense why Husan went there .. we know Lane is a master of jerking the rules around and almost feels like if yer Sam Levitt yer in a position to demand the team not add major 5 star talent if he goes there without some continegency plan for him if he's not THE GUY .. and same for Husan like its time to see the field man not be buried as QB2 another year .. I could just see some situation develop where one or both have some built in escape hatch because outside of Husan willing to take a back seat this year .. and basically be in the spot he was at USC, (albeit maybe for less money?.. ) the move seems just lateral and really quite confusing outside of some future reveal we're not privvy to ..
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TURBO RICHARD 300-1 .. Hey Turbo .. Psycho Cignetti here .. wanna ditch BC be the key RB to lead our B2B natty run ? .... ummm yeah lol .. all I can say is CIGGY knows how to pick em and Turbo was a lauded dude at BC and good chance Indy coaching staff gets every bit of major potential out of him .. we're up against another Indy QB in Josh Hoover and no doubt a MAJOR reconstruction of their natty roster .. but note Indy prob does lose 2 of their MAJOR WR's and this offense realllly knows how to run the ball and doesn't turn it over to backups right away .. he may have toooo much company in the backfield to breakout as a clear heisman candidate or may not be 'the dude' .. but 300-1 I can put what fan lets me so 22.50 to win 6750 .. fine let's see what happens ..
HUSAN LONGSTREET 500-1 .. WHOOOSAN? .. .. Former USC 5 STAR QB who xferred to LSU .. But isin't Sam Levitt there? .. yeah .. recall Austin Simmons was at Ole Miss last year too?... We haven't seen Longstreet get serious action yet but he looks like a potential MAJOR dude and I was pretty worried when picking TCU in the bowl game that this dude might come in to replace Maiiava and WRECK the whole game for me .. alas I can see USC not wanting to pay the extra money when they have a proven sure thing at QB .. the move to LSU is interesting because Longstreet is a MAJOR prospect and its high time he see the field .. very very peculiar move .. the guy looks every bit the pedigree and the arm and athleticism fit the bill .. he's an 'assumed' benchwarmer on a very very strong potential natty stacked team with a HC who will not care one bit who the best QB is, he's gunna play the best ..
The potential to make this a good play is probably with Sam not fully recovering from his injured foot by spring ball and / or re-aggrevating it .. could win the job .. could also xfer not rooting for injury but hell or high water if Longstreet won the QB1 job his odds are probably like 10 or 15-1 instantly and at 500x I think he's got better than decent chance of one thing or another happening and him just happening to be .. HIM .. yep .. just like in the movie lol ..
My big wonder with the Husan / Levitt situation is whether either QB has an escape hatch to the portal .. rules a bit diff this year and neither are a grad xfer or seemingly have any other reason why they'd be able to portal out of LSU after spring .. both would have every motivation to do so .. that situation in my mind would be better and make more sense why Husan went there .. we know Lane is a master of jerking the rules around and almost feels like if yer Sam Levitt yer in a position to demand the team not add major 5 star talent if he goes there without some continegency plan for him if he's not THE GUY .. and same for Husan like its time to see the field man not be buried as QB2 another year .. I could just see some situation develop where one or both have some built in escape hatch because outside of Husan willing to take a back seat this year .. and basically be in the spot he was at USC, (albeit maybe for less money?.. ) the move seems just lateral and really quite confusing outside of some future reveal we're not privvy to ..
Just a note my play on him was at a local book and I haven't seen him at the dummy US books at all and now don't even see him at the local .. feel like he must have appeared at some book early on as the local book is copying off others and maybe once the xfer happened things got a little dicey when books put 2+2 together on him .. I think my play on him was maybe even before he landed at LSU not sure it was a week or so ago ..
I doubt he'll be 500x when he re-emerges and kinda understand why he'd be off the boards .. Sam Levitt at like 15-1 feels like one the books are happy to book wagers on all day and probably a good move by them to not put Husan up there at some MASSIVE number when theres a seemingly possible path for his odds to change massively before the season starts ..
If interested I know a few books take requests .. BOL, B365 you can request a player be added and maybe not a bad move if you like the idea to just throw his name out there to them .. doubt you'll see a 500-1 next to it but who knows ..
Obvi going into that play we need to know it can die before the season starts so need to get unrealistically massive odds to make a heisman play on a backup QB lol .. but the whole fun of long shot heismans really kinda is the fun ride that can come w picking a MASSIVE BANGER like this one .. and maaan ohhhh maaaan we might be comped the nicest condo in BRAG CITY for the entire 2026 season if somehow we start the season in a fun spot with our dude BIG HUUUS ..
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Just a note my play on him was at a local book and I haven't seen him at the dummy US books at all and now don't even see him at the local .. feel like he must have appeared at some book early on as the local book is copying off others and maybe once the xfer happened things got a little dicey when books put 2+2 together on him .. I think my play on him was maybe even before he landed at LSU not sure it was a week or so ago ..
I doubt he'll be 500x when he re-emerges and kinda understand why he'd be off the boards .. Sam Levitt at like 15-1 feels like one the books are happy to book wagers on all day and probably a good move by them to not put Husan up there at some MASSIVE number when theres a seemingly possible path for his odds to change massively before the season starts ..
If interested I know a few books take requests .. BOL, B365 you can request a player be added and maybe not a bad move if you like the idea to just throw his name out there to them .. doubt you'll see a 500-1 next to it but who knows ..
Obvi going into that play we need to know it can die before the season starts so need to get unrealistically massive odds to make a heisman play on a backup QB lol .. but the whole fun of long shot heismans really kinda is the fun ride that can come w picking a MASSIVE BANGER like this one .. and maaan ohhhh maaaan we might be comped the nicest condo in BRAG CITY for the entire 2026 season if somehow we start the season in a fun spot with our dude BIG HUUUS ..
The only non longshot willing to consider .. took him when I saw he's taking his talents to South Beach .. he had the most yards I think in CFB last year at Duke .. Miami has been building toward a championship year and I am not 100% that they won't at least look the part in the ACC next year .. you have to think there's a bit more emphasis by them on making the playoffs by winning their conf next year not praying for a miracle and getting it ..
I got these odds again at the local book .. .15 units to win 3 units .. seeing 15-1 at FAN and of all the potential lower odds heismans out there I actually do kiiiinda like this one a little more ..
Maybe the one big potential road block issue I see is in Miami's noncon schedule .. they play a verrrrrry late season rematch @ND .. and holy smokes you can just go ahead and call this the bloodiest REDRUM REVENGE spot on the entire CFB calendar .. I can't even imagine up one that would be more insane than ND getting to take a shot at these guys on their home turf after what happened last year .. that scheduling in and of really feels like a make or break heisman spot .. and you'll have another front runner in CJ Carr on the other side .. I've heard early power rating would put this ND -6 and I'm def not dying to lay points on game of the year plays this year but I could see Mensah's heisman shot potentially die in south bend .. or get GRADE A CERTIFIED sans a conf champ win .. TBD ..
Either way Mensah is a Dude and think he has a more than decent shot worth a hit at 20-1 IMO ..
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DARIAN MENSAH 20-1
The only non longshot willing to consider .. took him when I saw he's taking his talents to South Beach .. he had the most yards I think in CFB last year at Duke .. Miami has been building toward a championship year and I am not 100% that they won't at least look the part in the ACC next year .. you have to think there's a bit more emphasis by them on making the playoffs by winning their conf next year not praying for a miracle and getting it ..
I got these odds again at the local book .. .15 units to win 3 units .. seeing 15-1 at FAN and of all the potential lower odds heismans out there I actually do kiiiinda like this one a little more ..
Maybe the one big potential road block issue I see is in Miami's noncon schedule .. they play a verrrrrry late season rematch @ND .. and holy smokes you can just go ahead and call this the bloodiest REDRUM REVENGE spot on the entire CFB calendar .. I can't even imagine up one that would be more insane than ND getting to take a shot at these guys on their home turf after what happened last year .. that scheduling in and of really feels like a make or break heisman spot .. and you'll have another front runner in CJ Carr on the other side .. I've heard early power rating would put this ND -6 and I'm def not dying to lay points on game of the year plays this year but I could see Mensah's heisman shot potentially die in south bend .. or get GRADE A CERTIFIED sans a conf champ win .. TBD ..
Either way Mensah is a Dude and think he has a more than decent shot worth a hit at 20-1 IMO ..
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