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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 7:50 PM ET #51

    Sam Bradford, being the measuring stick, was a higher prospect as he won the Heisman and played in the title game.

    Bradford, just like Luck, opted to stay after their sophmore year and play college as a jr.  Who is the last great NFL QB that came out as a Soph???  Also if Bradford wasn't as highly regarded how is it that when he went back to school and got hurt he was still the #1 pick?

    I don't discredit your degrees and education, but the college experience is more than hitting the books. Its about getting box and smoking weed and shit like that. (ask Masoli).

    As far as Jake Locker....I think he's going to play baseball anyway just like Russ Wilson andParker at Clemson maybe Colin Kapernick too.

    Who is gonna surpass Luck to be #1 in 2012?

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    Sam Bradford, being the measuring stick, was a higher prospect as he won the Heisman and played in the title game.

    Bradford, just like Luck, opted to stay after their sophmore year and play college as a jr.  Who is the last great NFL QB that came out as a Soph???  Also if Bradford wasn't as highly regarded how is it that when he went back to school and got hurt he was still the #1 pick?

    I don't discredit your degrees and education, but the college experience is more than hitting the books. Its about getting box and smoking weed and shit like that. (ask Masoli).

    As far as Jake Locker....I think he's going to play baseball anyway just like Russ Wilson andParker at Clemson maybe Colin Kapernick too.

    Who is gonna surpass Luck to be #1 in 2012?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 7:53 PM ET #52

    I'm baffled to see someone bashing the kid for staying at Stanford to get his degree

    Dude:
    He doesn't have to forgo the NFL to get his degree. You can grasp that simple point, right?

    Remind me again, how much more highly regarded you can get than the number one overall pick?


    Ever heard of endorsement money? Who do you think would have made more endorsements in 2011, Sam Bradford or Andrew Luck?

    The money at the top of the draft will always be there for someone to live a very, very comfortable life and if he's as legit as he looks then he'll earn that second contract that will topple his rookie one.

    Like David Carr did?
    JaMarcus is out of the NFL.
    Alex Smith was a #1 pick and so was Tim Couch.

    Leaving this much $ on the table is idiotic.
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    I'm baffled to see someone bashing the kid for staying at Stanford to get his degree

    Dude:
    He doesn't have to forgo the NFL to get his degree. You can grasp that simple point, right?

    Remind me again, how much more highly regarded you can get than the number one overall pick?


    Ever heard of endorsement money? Who do you think would have made more endorsements in 2011, Sam Bradford or Andrew Luck?

    The money at the top of the draft will always be there for someone to live a very, very comfortable life and if he's as legit as he looks then he'll earn that second contract that will topple his rookie one.

    Like David Carr did?
    JaMarcus is out of the NFL.
    Alex Smith was a #1 pick and so was Tim Couch.

    Leaving this much $ on the table is idiotic.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 7:54 PM ET #53

    There are a lot of mistakes being made in this thread.

    1. Words like "dumb" have no place in the discussion. There are reasons for making every decision a human makes throughout there life and you don't know why he wants to stay for another year. If he came out and said "I want to stay in school to make more money" then yea its dumb because he will never be worth more and can only be worth less with the rooke pay scale.

    2. A Stanford education is not worth more to ANYONE than $30 million dollars. Unless he is going to get his degree and go work for 50k a year somewhere afterwards this decision makes no economic or career sense.

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    There are a lot of mistakes being made in this thread.

    1. Words like "dumb" have no place in the discussion. There are reasons for making every decision a human makes throughout there life and you don't know why he wants to stay for another year. If he came out and said "I want to stay in school to make more money" then yea its dumb because he will never be worth more and can only be worth less with the rooke pay scale.

    2. A Stanford education is not worth more to ANYONE than $30 million dollars. Unless he is going to get his degree and go work for 50k a year somewhere afterwards this decision makes no economic or career sense.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 7:55 PM ET #54

    the college experience is more than hitting the books. Its about getting box and smoking weed and shit like that.

    I kind of doubt Luck smokes weed. I get your point, the question is, is having that type of fun on campus for just over another year worth $30 million?

    Jake Locker....I think he's going to play baseball anyway


    Yup.

    But had he come out, would he have been selected #1 over Bradford???
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    the college experience is more than hitting the books. Its about getting box and smoking weed and shit like that.

    I kind of doubt Luck smokes weed. I get your point, the question is, is having that type of fun on campus for just over another year worth $30 million?

    Jake Locker....I think he's going to play baseball anyway


    Yup.

    But had he come out, would he have been selected #1 over Bradford???
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:00 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

     
    But had he come out, would he have been selected #1 over Bradford???

    Who, Locker or Luck? Either case, Bradford was already a much more polished and most NFL ready of the 3 so no would be my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

     
    But had he come out, would he have been selected #1 over Bradford???

    Who, Locker or Luck? Either case, Bradford was already a much more polished and most NFL ready of the 3 so no would be my guess.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:01 PM ET #56

    Esp. with your coach leaving, time to go IMO.
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    Esp. with your coach leaving, time to go IMO.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:17 PM ET #57

    Really baffeled at his decision. You can't get any higher than #1. No guarantee he'll have the same type of season or hype even with his talent. If he doesn't want to play for Carolina, he can pull the Elway and Eli ploy and say he won't sign if drafted and force a trade.
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    Really baffeled at his decision. You can't get any higher than #1. No guarantee he'll have the same type of season or hype even with his talent. If he doesn't want to play for Carolina, he can pull the Elway and Eli ploy and say he won't sign if drafted and force a trade.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:17 PM ET #58

    Side note...Does anyone remember Willis McGahee run out of Buffalo for bashing the city and the people who live in it?

    Silently the same thought can be had about living in North Cali vs Carolina, Clevland, Buffalo (again) and even DC.  The lone exception I will take is Denver.

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    Side note...Does anyone remember Willis McGahee run out of Buffalo for bashing the city and the people who live in it?

    Silently the same thought can be had about living in North Cali vs Carolina, Clevland, Buffalo (again) and even DC.  The lone exception I will take is Denver.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:20 PM ET #59

    kickinA,

    I meant to say Locker over Bradford.

    Locker certainly had a lot of buzz and a better year than this year.

    Though it likely would have never happened, but here is a reference to how some viewed Locker at the start of 2010.
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    kickinA,

    I meant to say Locker over Bradford.

    Locker certainly had a lot of buzz and a better year than this year.

    Though it likely would have never happened, but here is a reference to how some viewed Locker at the start of 2010.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:27 PM ET #60

    Locker isn't playing baseball professionally. Where are you getting this information? He'll be drafted for sure. I will guarantee he won't ever step into a clubhouse on any level, minors or majors, after April.

    I didn't mean a Stanford education is worth more in a monetary sense to some people. The world has been corrupted by money to the point where people think everything is about it. People still do have values.
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    Locker isn't playing baseball professionally. Where are you getting this information? He'll be drafted for sure. I will guarantee he won't ever step into a clubhouse on any level, minors or majors, after April.

    I didn't mean a Stanford education is worth more in a monetary sense to some people. The world has been corrupted by money to the point where people think everything is about it. People still do have values.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:28 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    kickinA,

    I meant to say Locker over Bradford.

    Locker certainly had a lot of buzz and a better year than this year.

    Though it likely would have never happened, but here is a reference to how some viewed Locker at the start of 2010.

    No doubt, Locker reminds me of Phillip Rivers. Sure it's premature, but he's got that leadership ability and the fiery drive to carry his team. The guy is a fierce competitor and won more with very little talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    kickinA,

    I meant to say Locker over Bradford.

    Locker certainly had a lot of buzz and a better year than this year.

    Though it likely would have never happened, but here is a reference to how some viewed Locker at the start of 2010.

    No doubt, Locker reminds me of Phillip Rivers. Sure it's premature, but he's got that leadership ability and the fiery drive to carry his team. The guy is a fierce competitor and won more with very little talent.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:32 PM ET #62

    And for the record, this is no wrong or "dumb" decision here.
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    And for the record, this is no wrong or "dumb" decision here.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:32 PM ET #63

    Both could have been justified.
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    Both could have been justified.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:35 PM ET #64

    Well in somewhat of a related news, Ryan Mallet is going pro. Can't say I blame here. Imagine having to relive his senior year throwing to those same clowns again.
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    Well in somewhat of a related news, Ryan Mallet is going pro. Can't say I blame here. Imagine having to relive his senior year throwing to those same clowns again.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:40 PM ET #65

    LottaDinero,

    Locker was drafted by the Angels last year. It seems he has a bit of an uncertain future with baseball too.
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    LottaDinero,

    Locker was drafted by the Angels last year. It seems he has a bit of an uncertain future with baseball too.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:45 PM ET #66

    With Luck staying back, I would not be one bit surprise if Harbaugh stays for one last dance as well. If so, watch out for Stanford and Oregon next fall.
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    With Luck staying back, I would not be one bit surprise if Harbaugh stays for one last dance as well. If so, watch out for Stanford and Oregon next fall.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    LottaDinero,

    Locker was drafted by the Angels last year. It seems he has a bit of an uncertain future with baseball too.


    His future isn't as uncertain in football as you may think. He's a top ten pick in my opinion now that Luck is staying. The demand for QBs this year is much higher than year's past.

    I will go as far and wager with you that he will be a first round pick and start at least five games in the NFL. Jake Locker, that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    LottaDinero,

    Locker was drafted by the Angels last year. It seems he has a bit of an uncertain future with baseball too.


    His future isn't as uncertain in football as you may think. He's a top ten pick in my opinion now that Luck is staying. The demand for QBs this year is much higher than year's past.

    I will go as far and wager with you that he will be a first round pick and start at least five games in the NFL. Jake Locker, that is.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 9:32 PM ET #68

    I respect a man who wants to finish college at a great school and get his degree.  if Luck were to sign and go to the nfl and suffer a career ending injury in year 1 ...then what would he have to fall back on?   good choice, if he's that good the NFL will still be calling him this time next year         
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    I respect a man who wants to finish college at a great school and get his degree.  if Luck were to sign and go to the nfl and suffer a career ending injury in year 1 ...then what would he have to fall back on?   good choice, if he's that good the NFL will still be calling him this time next year         
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 10:53 PM ET #69

    That college box is much better than the NFL groupie box.  You can pull a "hit and run" in college while the NFL groupies are professional gold diggers.  Good move if he's financially set.
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    That college box is much better than the NFL groupie box.  You can pull a "hit and run" in college while the NFL groupies are professional gold diggers.  Good move if he's financially set.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 11:00 PM ET #70

    Even Bill Gates drop out of College to make money and he did not even a potential first round draft pick


    Every day out of the red is a big win.
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    Even Bill Gates drop out of College to make money and he did not even a potential first round draft pick


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerousaction:

    That college box is much better than the NFL groupie box.  You can pull a "hit and run" in college while the NFL groupies are professional gold diggers.  Good move if he's financially set.


    He could be sue like Farve and Ben RapeManyGilrs
    Every day out of the red is a big win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerousaction:

    That college box is much better than the NFL groupie box.  You can pull a "hit and run" in college while the NFL groupies are professional gold diggers.  Good move if he's financially set.


    He could be sue like Farve and Ben RapeManyGilrs
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 11:36 PM ET #72

    He will own the campus trim 2011 and get a degree. Must be nice to turn down that big payday and still have a campus full of girls to comfort you.
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    He will own the campus trim 2011 and get a degree. Must be nice to turn down that big payday and still have a campus full of girls to comfort you.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 7:00 AM ET #73

    if Luck were to sign and go to the nfl and suffer a career ending injury in year 1 ...then what would he have to fall back on?

    He would have gotten about $40 million guaranteed.

    You mean other than that? Are you suggesting he couldn't have gone back to school with his NFL signing bonus?
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    if Luck were to sign and go to the nfl and suffer a career ending injury in year 1 ...then what would he have to fall back on?

    He would have gotten about $40 million guaranteed.

    You mean other than that? Are you suggesting he couldn't have gone back to school with his NFL signing bonus?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 7:07 AM ET #74

    LottaDinero,
    no doubt Locker will be drafted, but he's had some crappy games this year. In the 1st game vs Nebraska he was held to just four completions and 71 passing yards on 20 pass attempts.

    His stock has fallen, but he did make a decent showing in the bowl game.
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    LottaDinero,
    no doubt Locker will be drafted, but he's had some crappy games this year. In the 1st game vs Nebraska he was held to just four completions and 71 passing yards on 20 pass attempts.

    His stock has fallen, but he did make a decent showing in the bowl game.
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 7:09 AM ET #75

    That college box is much better than the NFL groupie box.

    I second that. I have no idea why these guys would want some skank that 20 other ballers already had.

    Ben Roethlisberger may be a sketchy dude, but he did it right by plucking some chick from a small town.
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    That college box is much better than the NFL groupie box.

    I second that. I have no idea why these guys would want some skank that 20 other ballers already had.

    Ben Roethlisberger may be a sketchy dude, but he did it right by plucking some chick from a small town.
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