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    An undefeated FSU would play undefeated Bama for title.

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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2013 - 2:44 AM ET #1

    If undefeated, FSU will be a very close #2 in the BCS behind Alabama.

    An undefeated Oregon would actually be a distant #3 in the BCS.

    This is according to the BCS math guru's who've projected out the rest of the year based on all 3 of these teams going undefeated.

    The deciding factors for the computers which would FSU as the #2:

    - Tougher schedule than Oregon.
    - ACC tougher conference than Pac 12.

    FSU vs. Alabama... what a National Title game that would be!



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    If undefeated, FSU will be a very close #2 in the BCS behind Alabama.

    An undefeated Oregon would actually be a distant #3 in the BCS.

    This is according to the BCS math guru's who've projected out the rest of the year based on all 3 of these teams going undefeated.

    The deciding factors for the computers which would FSU as the #2:

    - Tougher schedule than Oregon.
    - ACC tougher conference than Pac 12.

    FSU vs. Alabama... what a National Title game that would be!



     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2013 - 3:03 AM ET #2

    Nole alum here.

    Couldn't agree more. I am so looking forward to this Saturday night
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    Nole alum here.

    Couldn't agree more. I am so looking forward to this Saturday night
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDokie:

    Nole alum here.

    Couldn't agree more. I am so looking forward to this Saturday night


    good luck to you guys. i think you're better than Clemson, but Death Valley at night is always the ultimate challenge.

    you'll get the #2 BCS spot at the end of the year if you run the table according to the math guys.

    the computers love the strength of the ACC.

    that being said, an undefeated Clemson would also get the #2 ahead of Oregon as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDokie:

    Nole alum here.

    Couldn't agree more. I am so looking forward to this Saturday night


    good luck to you guys. i think you're better than Clemson, but Death Valley at night is always the ultimate challenge.

    you'll get the #2 BCS spot at the end of the year if you run the table according to the math guys.

    the computers love the strength of the ACC.

    that being said, an undefeated Clemson would also get the #2 ahead of Oregon as well.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2013 - 3:44 AM ET #4

    an undefeated fsu?  can't see it happening.  I've been a fan for 50 years.  this team is a year away.
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    an undefeated fsu?  can't see it happening.  I've been a fan for 50 years.  this team is a year away.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:

    an undefeated fsu?  can't see it happening.  I've been a fan for 50 years.  this team is a year away.


    i'm not saying they'll go undefeated.

    i'm simply relaying the fact that they'd get the #2 BCS spot if they actually do run the table. same goes for Clemson.

    enjoy the game on Saturday. gl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:

    an undefeated fsu?  can't see it happening.  I've been a fan for 50 years.  this team is a year away.


    i'm not saying they'll go undefeated.

    i'm simply relaying the fact that they'd get the #2 BCS spot if they actually do run the table. same goes for Clemson.

    enjoy the game on Saturday. gl

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2013 - 6:38 AM ET #6

    FSU may seem a year away, but we could make a game with any team right now with where we are at.  The defense may take a step forward next year, but the offense will take a step back with a few key early departures from the OLine and probably DT Timmy Jernigan.
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    FSU may seem a year away, but we could make a game with any team right now with where we are at.  The defense may take a step forward next year, but the offense will take a step back with a few key early departures from the OLine and probably DT Timmy Jernigan.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2013 - 7:34 AM ET #7

    https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/bcs

    According to this, it's Bama, then Oregon, then Clemson, FSU, Ohio State.  None really close to the top two.
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    https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/bcs

    According to this, it's Bama, then Oregon, then Clemson, FSU, Ohio State.  None really close to the top two.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2013 - 9:52 AM ET #8

    can't wait for this game  !!!!  Clemson by 4,bol
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    can't wait for this game  !!!!  Clemson by 4,bol
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2013 - 11:51 AM ET #9

    ACC tougher than the PAC 12  ??


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    Quote Originally Posted by BandosWB:

    https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/bcs

    According to this, it's Bama, then Oregon, then Clemson, FSU, Ohio State.  None really close to the top two.


    the projection was for the end of the year BCS standings, not current. the current projected standings are meaningless for this discussion.

    - FSU still has Clemson, Miami, and Florida to play. And if they beat Clemson, they'd likely have to play Miami again in the ACC CCG.

    - Clemson still has FSU and South Carolina to play. And if they beat FSU, they'd likely play Miami in the ACC CCG.

    so an undefeated FSU or Clemson would both move up substantially in the BCS with all of those top opponents still to play. whereas Oregon's remaining schedule isn't nearly as impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BandosWB:

    https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/bcs

    According to this, it's Bama, then Oregon, then Clemson, FSU, Ohio State.  None really close to the top two.


    the projection was for the end of the year BCS standings, not current. the current projected standings are meaningless for this discussion.

    - FSU still has Clemson, Miami, and Florida to play. And if they beat Clemson, they'd likely have to play Miami again in the ACC CCG.

    - Clemson still has FSU and South Carolina to play. And if they beat FSU, they'd likely play Miami in the ACC CCG.

    so an undefeated FSU or Clemson would both move up substantially in the BCS with all of those top opponents still to play. whereas Oregon's remaining schedule isn't nearly as impressive.

     
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    yes the ACC is a tougher conference than the PAC 12  

    https://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/74663/sec-leads-1st-conference-power-rankings

    and once again:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1803823-week-7-college-football-conference-power-rankings/page/11
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    yes the ACC is a tougher conference than the PAC 12  

    https://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/74663/sec-leads-1st-conference-power-rankings

    and once again:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1803823-week-7-college-football-conference-power-rankings/page/11
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    ACC tougher than the PAC 12  ??




    not sure why you're laughing, but every major ratings service has the ACC as the #2 conference and the Pac 12 as #4, barely in front of the lowly Big 10.

    the Pac 12 will only have 1 top-15 ranked team at year end: Oregon.

    - UCLA will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    - Stanford will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    - Washington will finish with 4 or 5 losses.

    - Oregon State, who lost to Eastern Washington at home, will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    whereas the ACC will finish with 2 or 3 top-10 teams by year end. it's not even close, they are far ahead of the terribly overrated Pac 12. and that's what would give FSU or Clemson the #2 BCS spot if either of those teams run the table.

    class dismissed!



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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    ACC tougher than the PAC 12  ??




    not sure why you're laughing, but every major ratings service has the ACC as the #2 conference and the Pac 12 as #4, barely in front of the lowly Big 10.

    the Pac 12 will only have 1 top-15 ranked team at year end: Oregon.

    - UCLA will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    - Stanford will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    - Washington will finish with 4 or 5 losses.

    - Oregon State, who lost to Eastern Washington at home, will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    whereas the ACC will finish with 2 or 3 top-10 teams by year end. it's not even close, they are far ahead of the terribly overrated Pac 12. and that's what would give FSU or Clemson the #2 BCS spot if either of those teams run the table.

    class dismissed!



     
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    https://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/74663/sec-leads-1st-conference-power-rankings

    and once again:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1803823-week-7-college-football-conference-power-rankings/page/11
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    https://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/74663/sec-leads-1st-conference-power-rankings

    and once again:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1803823-week-7-college-football-conference-power-rankings/page/11
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by motowner:



    not sure why you're laughing, but every major ratings service has the ACC as the #2 conference and the Pac 12 as #4, barely in front of the lowly Big 10.

    the Pac 12 will only have 1 top-15 ranked team at year end: Oregon.

    - UCLA will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    - Stanford will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    - Washington will finish with 4 or 5 losses.

    - Oregon State, who lost to Eastern Washington at home, will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    whereas the ACC will finish with 2 or 3 top-10 teams by year end. it's not even close, they are far ahead of the terribly overrated Pac 12. and that's what would give FSU or Clemson the #2 BCS spot if either of those teams run the table.

    class dismissed!





    INCORRECT:

    https://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/74663/sec-leads-1st-conference-power-rankings


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    not sure why you're laughing, but every major ratings service has the ACC as the #2 conference and the Pac 12 as #4, barely in front of the lowly Big 10.

    the Pac 12 will only have 1 top-15 ranked team at year end: Oregon.

    - UCLA will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    - Stanford will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    - Washington will finish with 4 or 5 losses.

    - Oregon State, who lost to Eastern Washington at home, will finish with 3 or 4 losses.

    whereas the ACC will finish with 2 or 3 top-10 teams by year end. it's not even close, they are far ahead of the terribly overrated Pac 12. and that's what would give FSU or Clemson the #2 BCS spot if either of those teams run the table.

    class dismissed!





    INCORRECT:

    https://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/74663/sec-leads-1st-conference-power-rankings


     
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    It all depends on whose you use.  Sagarin always seems a good spot to start.

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/2013/conference/

    GL with your wagers this week
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    It all depends on whose you use.  Sagarin always seems a good spot to start.

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/2013/conference/

    GL with your wagers this week
     
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    Sagarin and ESPN both have the PAC 12 currently ranked higher than the ACC.

    but motowner insists the ACC is a higher ranked conf.

    he also picked Wash to win straight up over Oregon but they did not even cover the spread.

    no wonder motowner kept complimenting me in my threads.  he's not a good capper and not a good college football analyst.

    motowner you have so so so much to learn about this game.


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    Sagarin and ESPN both have the PAC 12 currently ranked higher than the ACC.

    but motowner insists the ACC is a higher ranked conf.

    he also picked Wash to win straight up over Oregon but they did not even cover the spread.

    no wonder motowner kept complimenting me in my threads.  he's not a good capper and not a good college football analyst.

    motowner you have so so so much to learn about this game.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    https://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/74663/sec-leads-1st-conference-power-rankings

    and once again:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1803823-week-7-college-football-conference-power-rankings/page/11


    what part of end of the year standings don't you understand?



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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    https://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/74663/sec-leads-1st-conference-power-rankings

    and once again:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1803823-week-7-college-football-conference-power-rankings/page/11


    what part of end of the year standings don't you understand?



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    Sagarin and ESPN both have the PAC 12 currently ranked higher than the ACC.

    but motowner insists the ACC is a higher ranked conf.

    he also picked Wash to win straight up over Oregon but they did not even cover the spread.

    no wonder motowner kept complimenting me in my threads.  he's not a good capper and not a good college football analyst.

    motowner you have so so so much to learn about this game.


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    Sagarin and ESPN both have the PAC 12 currently ranked higher than the ACC.

    but motowner insists the ACC is a higher ranked conf.

    he also picked Wash to win straight up over Oregon but they did not even cover the spread.

    no wonder motowner kept complimenting me in my threads.  he's not a good capper and not a good college football analyst.

    motowner you have so so so much to learn about this game.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    Sagarin and ESPN both have the PAC 12 currently ranked higher than the ACC.

    but motowner insists the ACC is a higher ranked conf.

    he also picked Wash to win straight up over Oregon but they did not even cover the spread.

    no wonder motowner kept complimenting me in my threads.  he's not a good capper and not a good college football analyst.

    motowner you have so so so much to learn about this game.




    this actually made me out laugh out loud.

    i haven't commented in a single thread of yours, much less even read one.

    if you can provide a link which shows otherwise, i'll leave the board forever.

    we'll all wait for your reply with proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    Sagarin and ESPN both have the PAC 12 currently ranked higher than the ACC.

    but motowner insists the ACC is a higher ranked conf.

    he also picked Wash to win straight up over Oregon but they did not even cover the spread.

    no wonder motowner kept complimenting me in my threads.  he's not a good capper and not a good college football analyst.

    motowner you have so so so much to learn about this game.




    this actually made me out laugh out loud.

    i haven't commented in a single thread of yours, much less even read one.

    if you can provide a link which shows otherwise, i'll leave the board forever.

    we'll all wait for your reply with proof.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2013 - 5:46 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by motowner:



    this actually made me out laugh out loud.

    i haven't commented in a single thread of yours, much less even read one.

    if you can provide a link which shows otherwise, i'll leave the board forever.

    we'll all wait for your reply with proof.



    you posted in most of my pick threads to start the year.  you were the first one to comment on my week one picks!!!

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101672957


    are you going to shut up now or do you want me to keep posting proof??


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    this actually made me out laugh out loud.

    i haven't commented in a single thread of yours, much less even read one.

    if you can provide a link which shows otherwise, i'll leave the board forever.

    we'll all wait for your reply with proof.



    you posted in most of my pick threads to start the year.  you were the first one to comment on my week one picks!!!

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101672957


    are you going to shut up now or do you want me to keep posting proof??


     
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    my pick thread for week two and once AGAIN you were the first person to comment!!

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101677018


    listen dude.  you have been given links to sports resources like ESPN and Sagarin that have the PAC 12 higher than the ACC.,

    you are getting owned right now so just shut up


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    my pick thread for week two and once AGAIN you were the first person to comment!!

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101677018


    listen dude.  you have been given links to sports resources like ESPN and Sagarin that have the PAC 12 higher than the ACC.,

    you are getting owned right now so just shut up


     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2013 - 5:50 PM ET #22

    Talk all the math you want if alab and Oreg go undefeated they will play for natl chip 
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    Talk all the math you want if alab and Oreg go undefeated they will play for natl chip 
     
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    in this one for week 3 you agreed with my A&M +9.5 and PURDUE +20.5 but you said you were waiting for better numbers,

    of course the closing lines were A&M +7.5 and Purdue +18.5 !!!

    you missed the boat on the "better numbers"

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101683853
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    in this one for week 3 you agreed with my A&M +9.5 and PURDUE +20.5 but you said you were waiting for better numbers,

    of course the closing lines were A&M +7.5 and Purdue +18.5 !!!

    you missed the boat on the "better numbers"

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101683853
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:



    you posted in most of my pick threads to start the year.  you were the first one to comment on my week one picks!!!

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101672957


    are you going to shut up now or do you want me to keep posting proof??




    again, i'm waiting proof of where i "keep complimenting" you in your threads.

    you're so full of chit, i can see why the entire board laughs at you and calls you a psycho. you were absolutely humiliated by at least 30 different posters in your recent cry for attention thread.

    you're a documented 38% capper who loses his azz every single year. i learned that after week 1 and never even bothered reading another one of your threads.

    now, again, provide the proof where i "keep complimenting" you in your threads.

    this should be interesting because you have none.
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    you posted in most of my pick threads to start the year.  you were the first one to comment on my week one picks!!!

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101672957


    are you going to shut up now or do you want me to keep posting proof??




    again, i'm waiting proof of where i "keep complimenting" you in your threads.

    you're so full of chit, i can see why the entire board laughs at you and calls you a psycho. you were absolutely humiliated by at least 30 different posters in your recent cry for attention thread.

    you're a documented 38% capper who loses his azz every single year. i learned that after week 1 and never even bothered reading another one of your threads.

    now, again, provide the proof where i "keep complimenting" you in your threads.

    this should be interesting because you have none.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by motowner:



    this actually made me out laugh out loud.

    i haven't commented in a single thread of yours, much less even read one.

    if you can provide a link which shows otherwise, i'll leave the board forever.

    we'll all wait for your reply with proof.



    the operative word is "comment", not complimented.  i said "complimented" but you said "commented".

    you said you have not commented in my threads let alone read them, and i just bumped three threads right away where you commented.

    nice washington pick over oregon.

    you suck at this.
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    this actually made me out laugh out loud.

    i haven't commented in a single thread of yours, much less even read one.

    if you can provide a link which shows otherwise, i'll leave the board forever.

    we'll all wait for your reply with proof.



    the operative word is "comment", not complimented.  i said "complimented" but you said "commented".

    you said you have not commented in my threads let alone read them, and i just bumped three threads right away where you commented.

    nice washington pick over oregon.

    you suck at this.
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