2018 Bowl Under system... 37 - 3 in 2017... Lets Do it Again!
There is another thread using Massey defensive ratings to point this out but believe that as we get closer to the playoffs we may need to dive a little deeper. Using defensive YPP allowed only (from teamrankings . com), out of the 22 bowls played so far the better YPP allowed is 17-5 SU and ATS. Of the 5 losses, 4 of those had a SOS of 100 or more (out of 129 teams) and the upsetting team had a stronger SOS in all of those (I'm using SOS from footballoutsiders). Also 2 out of the 5 losses were to armed forces schools. You could say SDSU and Virginia defense didn't show up but those option academy schools are tough to go against and they don't give up. Otherwise we really haven't seen a defensive "no show". On the otherhand offenses have no showed (Oregon and Colorado St to a lesser extent, SMU and Toledo totally, and W. Virginia and UCLA due to QB injuries). And for the most part we haven't seen a good offense struggle in the 1H and then come alive in the 2H (K-State and the Texas Tech/S. Florida game).
Kinda fits with how this bowl system has worked for so many years. Maybe because offenses have to act where defenses just have to react? Not sure but obviously need to look close at the defense.
There is another thread using Massey defensive ratings to point this out but believe that as we get closer to the playoffs we may need to dive a little deeper. Using defensive YPP allowed only (from teamrankings . com), out of the 22 bowls played so far the better YPP allowed is 17-5 SU and ATS. Of the 5 losses, 4 of those had a SOS of 100 or more (out of 129 teams) and the upsetting team had a stronger SOS in all of those (I'm using SOS from footballoutsiders). Also 2 out of the 5 losses were to armed forces schools. You could say SDSU and Virginia defense didn't show up but those option academy schools are tough to go against and they don't give up. Otherwise we really haven't seen a defensive "no show". On the otherhand offenses have no showed (Oregon and Colorado St to a lesser extent, SMU and Toledo totally, and W. Virginia and UCLA due to QB injuries). And for the most part we haven't seen a good offense struggle in the 1H and then come alive in the 2H (K-State and the Texas Tech/S. Florida game).
Kinda fits with how this bowl system has worked for so many years. Maybe because offenses have to act where defenses just have to react? Not sure but obviously need to look close at the defense.
Add to the total no shows: SMU, Toledo, Missouri
Maybe for those looking to get involved in the side as well as these halftime totals this can help. Live line after Va. Tech scored was still +3.5.
Add to the total no shows: SMU, Toledo, Missouri
Maybe for those looking to get involved in the side as well as these halftime totals this can help. Live line after Va. Tech scored was still +3.5.
Hey Roggs, are you playing any sides in these games or are you just happy to let this system roll?
Hey Roggs, are you playing any sides in these games or are you just happy to let this system roll?
QUOTE Originally Posted by Snowcrete: Hey Roggs, are you playing any sides in these games or are you just happy to let this system roll? I have played 2 sides until today....I played app state and marshall... winners... full transparency I did take va tech tonight as the 3rd side... I have just been posting those on my twitter handle not to bog this thread down...To be honest all my time this week is trying to figure out my 5 hilton plays as many of you have seen I am in 10th headed into final weekend in the NFL... So with the significance of that - and watching totals for this system I have not broken down many sides
Cam Phillips being out for Va. Tech has certaintly hurt their red zone offense.
QUOTE Originally Posted by Snowcrete: Hey Roggs, are you playing any sides in these games or are you just happy to let this system roll? I have played 2 sides until today....I played app state and marshall... winners... full transparency I did take va tech tonight as the 3rd side... I have just been posting those on my twitter handle not to bog this thread down...To be honest all my time this week is trying to figure out my 5 hilton plays as many of you have seen I am in 10th headed into final weekend in the NFL... So with the significance of that - and watching totals for this system I have not broken down many sides
Cam Phillips being out for Va. Tech has certaintly hurt their red zone offense.
wow, great job on the Hilton contest-what does 10th place get?
wow, great job on the Hilton contest-what does 10th place get?
To be honest all my time this week is trying to figure out my 5 hilton plays as many of you have seen I am in 10th headed into final weekend in the NFL...
FWIW I think the Lions will easily cover the -6.5 at home against GB. In a nothing game I can see the Lions rallying a little to do the double against the Packers and send off their coach with a W before his inevitable firing. The Packers, meanwhile, don't have anything to offer with Hundley there and you could really see last week that with the playoffs gone they didn't have the fire, nor do they have many receivers to go with their no-deep-ball QB.
To be honest all my time this week is trying to figure out my 5 hilton plays as many of you have seen I am in 10th headed into final weekend in the NFL...
FWIW I think the Lions will easily cover the -6.5 at home against GB. In a nothing game I can see the Lions rallying a little to do the double against the Packers and send off their coach with a W before his inevitable firing. The Packers, meanwhile, don't have anything to offer with Hundley there and you could really see last week that with the playoffs gone they didn't have the fire, nor do they have many receivers to go with their no-deep-ball QB.
QUOTE Originally Posted by Roggs05: To be honest all my time this week is trying to figure out my 5 hilton plays as many of you have seen I am in 10th headed into final weekend in the NFL...
FWIW I think the Lions will easily cover the -6.5 at home against GB. In a nothing game I can see the Lions rallying a little to do the double against the Packers and send off their coach with a W before his inevitable firing. The Packers, meanwhile, don't have anything to offer with Hundley there and you could really see last week that with the playoffs gone they didn't have the fire, nor do they have many receivers to go with their no-deep-ball QB.
Another...Atlanta -4, after the Vikings beat the Bears at noon, rendering Carolina's result maningless.
QUOTE Originally Posted by Roggs05: To be honest all my time this week is trying to figure out my 5 hilton plays as many of you have seen I am in 10th headed into final weekend in the NFL...
FWIW I think the Lions will easily cover the -6.5 at home against GB. In a nothing game I can see the Lions rallying a little to do the double against the Packers and send off their coach with a W before his inevitable firing. The Packers, meanwhile, don't have anything to offer with Hundley there and you could really see last week that with the playoffs gone they didn't have the fire, nor do they have many receivers to go with their no-deep-ball QB.
Another...Atlanta -4, after the Vikings beat the Bears at noon, rendering Carolina's result maningless.
QUOTE Originally Posted by Snowcrete: Hey Roggs, are you playing any sides in these games or are you just happy to let this system roll? I have played 2 sides until today....I played app state and marshall... winners... full transparency I did take va tech tonight as the 3rd side... I have just been posting those on my twitter handle not to bog this thread down...To be honest all my time this week is trying to figure out my 5 hilton plays as many of you have seen I am in 10th headed into final weekend in the NFL... So with the significance of that - and watching totals for this system I have not broken down many sides
QUOTE Originally Posted by Snowcrete: Hey Roggs, are you playing any sides in these games or are you just happy to let this system roll? I have played 2 sides until today....I played app state and marshall... winners... full transparency I did take va tech tonight as the 3rd side... I have just been posting those on my twitter handle not to bog this thread down...To be honest all my time this week is trying to figure out my 5 hilton plays as many of you have seen I am in 10th headed into final weekend in the NFL... So with the significance of that - and watching totals for this system I have not broken down many sides
Any guesses as to what the 2nd half total will be for tcu/Stanford?
Any guesses as to what the 2nd half total will be for tcu/Stanford?
QUOTE Originally Posted by Roggs05: QUOTE Originally Posted by Snowcrete: Hey Roggs, are you playing any sides in these games or are you just happy to let this system roll? I have played 2 sides until today....I played app state and marshall... winners... full transparency I did take va tech tonight as the 3rd side... I have just been posting those on my twitter handle not to bog this thread down...To be honest all my time this week is trying to figure out my 5 hilton plays as many of you have seen I am in 10th headed into final weekend in the NFL... So with the significance of that - and watching totals for this system I have not broken down many sideswhich you are posted on twitter so i can forllow ?
QUOTE Originally Posted by Roggs05: QUOTE Originally Posted by Snowcrete: Hey Roggs, are you playing any sides in these games or are you just happy to let this system roll? I have played 2 sides until today....I played app state and marshall... winners... full transparency I did take va tech tonight as the 3rd side... I have just been posting those on my twitter handle not to bog this thread down...To be honest all my time this week is trying to figure out my 5 hilton plays as many of you have seen I am in 10th headed into final weekend in the NFL... So with the significance of that - and watching totals for this system I have not broken down many sideswhich you are posted on twitter so i can forllow ?
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