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    theguru1
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:03 AM ET #26

    I would have to say that clearly Kentucky is the best team with UNC right there also, but I would not count out a team like Missouri or Wichita State that can light up the scoreboard and both have deep teams and can shoot well all around. I could see either one getting to final four if they aren't in a bracket with Kentucky or UNC.  I would have a better guess once the brackets are out. The luck of the draw means everything here.I also saw someone mentioned Marquette and they are dangerous also.  But a real sleeper?  a long shot would be a team like UCLA or Notre Dame.
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    I would have to say that clearly Kentucky is the best team with UNC right there also, but I would not count out a team like Missouri or Wichita State that can light up the scoreboard and both have deep teams and can shoot well all around. I could see either one getting to final four if they aren't in a bracket with Kentucky or UNC.  I would have a better guess once the brackets are out. The luck of the draw means everything here.I also saw someone mentioned Marquette and they are dangerous also.  But a real sleeper?  a long shot would be a team like UCLA or Notre Dame.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:06 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by seanjohn007:

    ya i think well see kentucky and syracuse in the finals. there just by far the most well rounded teams, although i dont think kentucky is a good matchup for cuse, so ill take the team of freshman to win. i agree oregon is in great shape to make a run, there the hottest team by far


    I too think Kentucky is the best team in the Nation, but as far as Cuse goes I think you have that wrong. Syracuse would have the better matchup against the cats not the other way around.

    As far as winning it all or sleepers I think it is just a question better asked after the brackets are out. I will try to return back on selection Sunday, but I will be bust packing. Right back in Vegas again, and can't wait. No better time than March madness, and I need the away time bad cramped in here 24/7 crunching games, and a couple deaths in the family. Has been a rough month to say the least.

    GL to all during the madness!

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    For those newer to the game don't forget that even though it is the end of this season another will be here before you know it. Do not go out of your comfort zone, and bet the games as you would any others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seanjohn007:

    ya i think well see kentucky and syracuse in the finals. there just by far the most well rounded teams, although i dont think kentucky is a good matchup for cuse, so ill take the team of freshman to win. i agree oregon is in great shape to make a run, there the hottest team by far


    I too think Kentucky is the best team in the Nation, but as far as Cuse goes I think you have that wrong. Syracuse would have the better matchup against the cats not the other way around.

    As far as winning it all or sleepers I think it is just a question better asked after the brackets are out. I will try to return back on selection Sunday, but I will be bust packing. Right back in Vegas again, and can't wait. No better time than March madness, and I need the away time bad cramped in here 24/7 crunching games, and a couple deaths in the family. Has been a rough month to say the least.

    GL to all during the madness!

    P.S.

    For those newer to the game don't forget that even though it is the end of this season another will be here before you know it. Do not go out of your comfort zone, and bet the games as you would any others.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:10 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by theguru1:

    I would have to say that clearly Kentucky is the best team with UNC right there also, but I would not count out a team like Missouri or Wichita State that can light up the scoreboard and both have deep teams and can shoot well all around. I could see either one getting to final four if they aren't in a bracket with Kentucky or UNC.  I would have a better guess once the brackets are out. The luck of the draw means everything here.I also saw someone mentioned Marquette and they are dangerous also.  But a real sleeper?  a long shot would be a team like UCLA or Notre Dame.


    Funny you mention UCLA. Not really sure they make it in, but those boys have made DRASTIC improvements since early on. Hell even over the last month or so.. Just so impressed with what I have seen from them lately, and the win over Washington was pretty impressive even though it wasn't one of the Huskies better showings. That game really pissed me off holding a Wash future from very early. Luckily the Cardinal came through for me.

    Now I am babbling... Like how you mentioned the Bruin though
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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru1:

    I would have to say that clearly Kentucky is the best team with UNC right there also, but I would not count out a team like Missouri or Wichita State that can light up the scoreboard and both have deep teams and can shoot well all around. I could see either one getting to final four if they aren't in a bracket with Kentucky or UNC.  I would have a better guess once the brackets are out. The luck of the draw means everything here.I also saw someone mentioned Marquette and they are dangerous also.  But a real sleeper?  a long shot would be a team like UCLA or Notre Dame.


    Funny you mention UCLA. Not really sure they make it in, but those boys have made DRASTIC improvements since early on. Hell even over the last month or so.. Just so impressed with what I have seen from them lately, and the win over Washington was pretty impressive even though it wasn't one of the Huskies better showings. That game really pissed me off holding a Wash future from very early. Luckily the Cardinal came through for me.

    Now I am babbling... Like how you mentioned the Bruin though
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:13 AM ET #29

    Kentucky is by far the best team... UNC probably 2nd, Cuse 3rd & Kansas 4th... Kentucky takes home the bacon as their too talented, and yes, they would give the Bobcats a game if they played like today @ Florida and Charlotte played as bad as they can at times.
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    Kentucky is by far the best team... UNC probably 2nd, Cuse 3rd & Kansas 4th... Kentucky takes home the bacon as their too talented, and yes, they would give the Bobcats a game if they played like today @ Florida and Charlotte played as bad as they can at times.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:16 AM ET #30

    Indiana is a sleeper too
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    Indiana is a sleeper too
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:19 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by jeroh:

    Indiana is a sleeper too


    I think one would want to watch them very closely during this B10 tourney. They still have something to prove playing on the road as far as I am concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeroh:

    Indiana is a sleeper too


    I think one would want to watch them very closely during this B10 tourney. They still have something to prove playing on the road as far as I am concerned.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:19 AM ET #32

    definitely dont expect them to win, but i really like temple and vanderbilt. both have incredible guard play and overall balance, with strong interior defense and the type of experience that is ever-so-important in march. temple has incredible length in their tall guards, and fran dunphrey is a mastermind at switching defenses; when teams only have a day or two to prep for a team, they just watch tape of games....they dont get to anaylze all the sets and styles and whatever b/c of the limited time....but temple is going to customize their efforts for each team and catch them off guard...i will be wagering on both in a couple weeks
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    definitely dont expect them to win, but i really like temple and vanderbilt. both have incredible guard play and overall balance, with strong interior defense and the type of experience that is ever-so-important in march. temple has incredible length in their tall guards, and fran dunphrey is a mastermind at switching defenses; when teams only have a day or two to prep for a team, they just watch tape of games....they dont get to anaylze all the sets and styles and whatever b/c of the limited time....but temple is going to customize their efforts for each team and catch them off guard...i will be wagering on both in a couple weeks
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:21 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by sloop703:

    definitely dont expect them to win, but i really like temple and vanderbilt. both have incredible guard play and overall balance, with strong interior defense and the type of experience that is ever-so-important in march. temple has incredible length in their tall guards, and fran dunphrey is a mastermind at switching defenses; when teams only have a day or two to prep for a team, they just watch tape of games....they dont get to anaylze all the sets and styles and whatever b/c of the limited time....but temple is going to customize their efforts for each team and catch them off guard...i will be wagering on both in a couple weeks

    also was very impressed by UNC last night

    hard not to love marquette's ability to adapt. but i think once they get a UNC/kentucky/MSU they'll fold.

    my personal non-kentucky pick is KANSAS
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    Quote Originally Posted by sloop703:

    definitely dont expect them to win, but i really like temple and vanderbilt. both have incredible guard play and overall balance, with strong interior defense and the type of experience that is ever-so-important in march. temple has incredible length in their tall guards, and fran dunphrey is a mastermind at switching defenses; when teams only have a day or two to prep for a team, they just watch tape of games....they dont get to anaylze all the sets and styles and whatever b/c of the limited time....but temple is going to customize their efforts for each team and catch them off guard...i will be wagering on both in a couple weeks

    also was very impressed by UNC last night

    hard not to love marquette's ability to adapt. but i think once they get a UNC/kentucky/MSU they'll fold.

    my personal non-kentucky pick is KANSAS
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:22 AM ET #34

    I think Cuse or Kentucky wins it all.

    Sleepers - Indiana, Michigan, FSU
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    I think Cuse or Kentucky wins it all.

    Sleepers - Indiana, Michigan, FSU
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:23 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by sloop703:


    also was very impressed by UNC last night

    hard not to love marquette's ability to adapt. but i think once they get a UNC/kentucky/MSU they'll fold.

    my personal non-kentucky pick is KANSAS

    LOL. never would have guessed with a Kansas avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by sloop703:


    also was very impressed by UNC last night

    hard not to love marquette's ability to adapt. but i think once they get a UNC/kentucky/MSU they'll fold.

    my personal non-kentucky pick is KANSAS

    LOL. never would have guessed with a Kansas avatar
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:32 AM ET #36

    if uconn could get their stuff together for six games they could repeat.. one of the most talented teams in the nation just dont play like it
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    if uconn could get their stuff together for six games they could repeat.. one of the most talented teams in the nation just dont play like it
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:34 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by jeroh:

    if uconn could get their stuff together for six games they could repeat.. one of the most talented teams in the nation just dont play like it

    I disagree on many levels. Uconn is not a good basketball team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeroh:

    if uconn could get their stuff together for six games they could repeat.. one of the most talented teams in the nation just dont play like it

    I disagree on many levels. Uconn is not a good basketball team.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:35 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by theguru1:

    But a real sleeper?  a long shot would be a team like UCLA or Notre Dame.


    ...and since we are talking about UCLA, and such. Let's bring it back to the east coast. Looking in the A10 I think St Joes is a possible sleeper, and holds some good value here @ +1200 to win the A10. Well worth a little 50-100$ stab in my opinion. Playing some of their best ball down the stretch, and looking at the bracket really not bad even though no roll overs.

    #1 vs Charlotte

    #2  vs  St Bonnies  - Revenge game after just losing to them by a bucket or so on the road off that temple win

    #3 vs Temple who they already beat once, and are already locked into the tourney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru1:

    But a real sleeper?  a long shot would be a team like UCLA or Notre Dame.


    ...and since we are talking about UCLA, and such. Let's bring it back to the east coast. Looking in the A10 I think St Joes is a possible sleeper, and holds some good value here @ +1200 to win the A10. Well worth a little 50-100$ stab in my opinion. Playing some of their best ball down the stretch, and looking at the bracket really not bad even though no roll overs.

    #1 vs Charlotte

    #2  vs  St Bonnies  - Revenge game after just losing to them by a bucket or so on the road off that temple win

    #3 vs Temple who they already beat once, and are already locked into the tourney.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:42 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by jeroh:

    if uconn could get their stuff together for six games they could repeat.. one of the most talented teams in the nation just dont play like it

    Agreed.  They have the size and talent to match up with anybody. But, yes they have underachieved greatly all year although their assistant coach can't change a gameplan midgame for nothing.  I know if I was a 1 or 2 seed, I wouldn't want to face a team like this in the second round now that Calhoun is back

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeroh:

    if uconn could get their stuff together for six games they could repeat.. one of the most talented teams in the nation just dont play like it

    Agreed.  They have the size and talent to match up with anybody. But, yes they have underachieved greatly all year although their assistant coach can't change a gameplan midgame for nothing.  I know if I was a 1 or 2 seed, I wouldn't want to face a team like this in the second round now that Calhoun is back

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:46 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:


    I disagree on many levels. Uconn is not a good basketball team.


    Yea Uconn just hasn't pulled it together. A team to watch closely during the BE tourney to see what they can work out, but a team that has played ONE solid game all around in the last 10-11 which was their performance AT Syracuse. A game where they actually played much better than they did the next game at home, and that is probably because the cuse came with a better mentality.

    They did get a beautiful path last year getting favorable matchups in pretty much every game. Funny story we were all set to fade them big time after the BE tourney performance knowing they would be overvalued, and when the bracket came out I don't think we went against them once. They actually ended up being our best team out there, and earned us some nice Kobe beef down the way at craftsteak.

    Having said that this team has NO Kemba Walker. Not even close. Everyone expected Lamb to be that go to guy, but that hasn't even come close to happening. Drummund is a beast, but just too raw and with Drummond in the game Orieki is out of position. I think I actually wrote something about that on here a while ago. I really think that is where Uconn's problems stem from. Orieki/Drummond combo just has not come together. Napier/Boatwright have both stepped up though, and Calhoun will be back so there is still hope. Will just have to see if they can get something rolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:


    I disagree on many levels. Uconn is not a good basketball team.


    Yea Uconn just hasn't pulled it together. A team to watch closely during the BE tourney to see what they can work out, but a team that has played ONE solid game all around in the last 10-11 which was their performance AT Syracuse. A game where they actually played much better than they did the next game at home, and that is probably because the cuse came with a better mentality.

    They did get a beautiful path last year getting favorable matchups in pretty much every game. Funny story we were all set to fade them big time after the BE tourney performance knowing they would be overvalued, and when the bracket came out I don't think we went against them once. They actually ended up being our best team out there, and earned us some nice Kobe beef down the way at craftsteak.

    Having said that this team has NO Kemba Walker. Not even close. Everyone expected Lamb to be that go to guy, but that hasn't even come close to happening. Drummund is a beast, but just too raw and with Drummond in the game Orieki is out of position. I think I actually wrote something about that on here a while ago. I really think that is where Uconn's problems stem from. Orieki/Drummond combo just has not come together. Napier/Boatwright have both stepped up though, and Calhoun will be back so there is still hope. Will just have to see if they can get something rolling.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:49 AM ET #41

    I know it probably won't happen, but I do think they have the talent to do so and don't know what has happened to them this season, but would love to see my PITT panthers win the Big east tourney and sneak into the tourney, The bad thing is they were so horrible this season in conference play that even a Big east final loss would not be good enough to get in.  But I watched most of their games and they were either winning, tied, or within a few points in just about all of them with 5 minutes or so to go and just could not close out games this year.  When Woodall was out that was mostly why they lost those games, but can't come up with an excuse for the games they lost afterwards. But they hung right in with Cuse and Louisville til then end also and could have won those games.  They should at least come to play in the confernce tourney though sinc they know winning it is their only chance to make it in. Most of the better teams might not play as hard if they can get to the semifinals and sneak out a win, since those teams are already in
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    I know it probably won't happen, but I do think they have the talent to do so and don't know what has happened to them this season, but would love to see my PITT panthers win the Big east tourney and sneak into the tourney, The bad thing is they were so horrible this season in conference play that even a Big east final loss would not be good enough to get in.  But I watched most of their games and they were either winning, tied, or within a few points in just about all of them with 5 minutes or so to go and just could not close out games this year.  When Woodall was out that was mostly why they lost those games, but can't come up with an excuse for the games they lost afterwards. But they hung right in with Cuse and Louisville til then end also and could have won those games.  They should at least come to play in the confernce tourney though sinc they know winning it is their only chance to make it in. Most of the better teams might not play as hard if they can get to the semifinals and sneak out a win, since those teams are already in
     
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    I think it's worth a small bet at +8500 for them to win the BigEast tourney. like maybe ten bucks to win 850? why not?
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    I think it's worth a small bet at +8500 for them to win the BigEast tourney. like maybe ten bucks to win 850? why not?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:57 AM ET #43

    Pitt has to play

    St Johns... In the Garden

    Gtown

    Cincy

    then most likely Syracuse


    Not a chance in hell if you ask me, but they still have to play the games. It is a shame too, because before the season I thought Gibbs was going to be one of the premier players in the COUNTRY. Then Woodall went down, and the rest of the team never came together and rest is history. Very unfortunate senior year for him kinda sad.
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    Pitt has to play

    St Johns... In the Garden

    Gtown

    Cincy

    then most likely Syracuse


    Not a chance in hell if you ask me, but they still have to play the games. It is a shame too, because before the season I thought Gibbs was going to be one of the premier players in the COUNTRY. Then Woodall went down, and the rest of the team never came together and rest is history. Very unfortunate senior year for him kinda sad.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:58 AM ET #44

    yeah i have to really disagree with UConn...huskies are completely hopeless. absolutely no cohesion or leadership...lots of teams have plenty of raw talent that they've just been unable to tap into...means nothing unless you can harness it...also...UCLA blows...theyre NIT bound without a doubt

    yeppp i do have a kansas avatar, but im not a kansas fan until this year...just really like t-rob and the adversity he's overcome and the charisma and the heart the team plays with
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    yeah i have to really disagree with UConn...huskies are completely hopeless. absolutely no cohesion or leadership...lots of teams have plenty of raw talent that they've just been unable to tap into...means nothing unless you can harness it...also...UCLA blows...theyre NIT bound without a doubt

    yeppp i do have a kansas avatar, but im not a kansas fan until this year...just really like t-rob and the adversity he's overcome and the charisma and the heart the team plays with
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:59 AM ET #45

    Hey its 10 bucks so if you are talking about it you might as well do it already, because you won't be able to forgive yourself if they did somehow make it and you decided to save 10 bucks, lol.
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    Hey its 10 bucks so if you are talking about it you might as well do it already, because you won't be able to forgive yourself if they did somehow make it and you decided to save 10 bucks, lol.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 3:24 AM ET #46

    kansas,,kentucky has a coach that can't coach.
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    kansas,,kentucky has a coach that can't coach.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 8:56 AM ET #47

    FINAL FOUR

    DUKE VS KENTUCKY

    SYRACUSE VS. OHIO STATE

    KENTUCKY VS. OHIO STATE= OHIO STATE

    KENTUCKY 66

    OHIO STATE 67

    DARK HORSE ORU (ORAL ROBERTS)

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    FINAL FOUR

    DUKE VS KENTUCKY

    SYRACUSE VS. OHIO STATE

    KENTUCKY VS. OHIO STATE= OHIO STATE

    KENTUCKY 66

    OHIO STATE 67

    DARK HORSE ORU (ORAL ROBERTS)

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 9:03 AM ET #48

    GOOD THREAD!!

    WINNER 1) Ohio state or 2) Kentucky

    Dark Horse ORU- Sweet 16 and eliminated....... Gonna be a little more chalk, than in the past i think......years past UPSETS REIGN!!!

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    GOOD THREAD!!

    WINNER 1) Ohio state or 2) Kentucky

    Dark Horse ORU- Sweet 16 and eliminated....... Gonna be a little more chalk, than in the past i think......years past UPSETS REIGN!!!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 9:28 AM ET #49

    cherry boy , IU didnt get lucky to beat Kentucky, they played an encredible home game. if another top 25 team can put together 40 minutes of good basketball, they could beat Kentucky as well. at neutral sites IU will struggle but a more experienced team could knock off the Wildcats
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    cherry boy , IU didnt get lucky to beat Kentucky, they played an encredible home game. if another top 25 team can put together 40 minutes of good basketball, they could beat Kentucky as well. at neutral sites IU will struggle but a more experienced team could knock off the Wildcats
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 9:35 AM ET #50

    cal, missouri, fl. state, IU, and baylor all could get on a run 

    syr unc duke and kansas all look likely to go to elite 8 but what un is that ? 
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    cal, missouri, fl. state, IU, and baylor all could get on a run 

    syr unc duke and kansas all look likely to go to elite 8 but what un is that ? 
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