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Vegas vs KenPom Week 3 Pt II

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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 11:31 AM ET #51

Here is my opinion....

Toledo is garbage still and they have been for a while, there record is good due to a soft beginning schedule this season which may raise there optimism for the 2011-12 season.  Loyola-Chi SOS has been pretty tough and is a good test for a young team early in the season.  They have seen MUCH tougher teams than Toledo on the road.....Loyola-Chi beat a very well coached (pecora) Fordham team at home very easily....With the line moving so much in one direction I think it is a trap being set by middle players...trying to win on both sides....if i was to play, I would take the points of 6+ with Loyola-Chi and see what happens...

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Here is my opinion....

Toledo is garbage still and they have been for a while, there record is good due to a soft beginning schedule this season which may raise there optimism for the 2011-12 season.  Loyola-Chi SOS has been pretty tough and is a good test for a young team early in the season.  They have seen MUCH tougher teams than Toledo on the road.....Loyola-Chi beat a very well coached (pecora) Fordham team at home very easily....With the line moving so much in one direction I think it is a trap being set by middle players...trying to win on both sides....if i was to play, I would take the points of 6+ with Loyola-Chi and see what happens...

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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 11:40 AM ET #52

No plays at least until the 2PM EST games.  Will have a full list by then
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 12:26 PM ET #53

Not really sure why Kenpom would show Toledo +1....doesn't make much sense.

ESPN simulation has Toledo winning by 8.5 and 75% of picks have been coming in on Toledo, so line move is justified.  Looks like a trap to me...I'll be laying off.

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Not really sure why Kenpom would show Toledo +1....doesn't make much sense.

ESPN simulation has Toledo winning by 8.5 and 75% of picks have been coming in on Toledo, so line move is justified.  Looks like a trap to me...I'll be laying off.

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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 1:14 PM ET #54

Official Saturday Plays:

URI +11.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
UNLV +9.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Hofstra -2.5 (Home, Fave, Toward)
Indiana +5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
Ark LR +9.5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
USC +1.5 (Home, Dog, Away)
SDak +6.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
WKy +6.5* (Road, Dog, Toward)
TXAM -20* (Home, Fave, Toward)
SeMoSt -3.5* (Home, Fave, Toward)
Gonz -4 (Home, Fave, Away)
Pacific +10.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Ohio -4.5 (Road, Fave, Toward)

13 Plays - Those with the *** are close to going over 65% public plays.  If they go over they will be taken off the card, keep an eye on them.

BOL to everyone today


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Official Saturday Plays:

URI +11.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
UNLV +9.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Hofstra -2.5 (Home, Fave, Toward)
Indiana +5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
Ark LR +9.5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
USC +1.5 (Home, Dog, Away)
SDak +6.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
WKy +6.5* (Road, Dog, Toward)
TXAM -20* (Home, Fave, Toward)
SeMoSt -3.5* (Home, Fave, Toward)
Gonz -4 (Home, Fave, Away)
Pacific +10.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Ohio -4.5 (Road, Fave, Toward)

13 Plays - Those with the *** are close to going over 65% public plays.  If they go over they will be taken off the card, keep an eye on them.

BOL to everyone today


 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 1:30 PM ET #55

[Quote: Originally Posted by beaverfan23] Official Saturday Plays:

URI +11.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
UNLV +9.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Hofstra -2.5 (Home, Fave, Toward)
Indiana +5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
Ark LR +9.5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
USC +1.5 (Home, Dog, Away)
SDak +6.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
WKy +6.5* (Road, Dog, Toward)
TXAM -20* (Home, Fave, Toward)
SeMoSt -3.5* (Home, Fave, Toward)
Gonz -4 (Home, Fave, Away)
Pacific +10.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Ohio -4.5 (Road, Fave, Toward)

13 Plays - Those with the *** are close to going over 65% public plays.  If they go over they will be taken off the card, keep an eye on them.

BOL to everyone today

How come OHIO st is getting 1 point now what happen did someone get hurt?? 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by beaverfan23] Official Saturday Plays:

URI +11.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
UNLV +9.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Hofstra -2.5 (Home, Fave, Toward)
Indiana +5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
Ark LR +9.5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
USC +1.5 (Home, Dog, Away)
SDak +6.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
WKy +6.5* (Road, Dog, Toward)
TXAM -20* (Home, Fave, Toward)
SeMoSt -3.5* (Home, Fave, Toward)
Gonz -4 (Home, Fave, Away)
Pacific +10.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Ohio -4.5 (Road, Fave, Toward)

13 Plays - Those with the *** are close to going over 65% public plays.  If they go over they will be taken off the card, keep an eye on them.

BOL to everyone today

How come OHIO st is getting 1 point now what happen did someone get hurt?? 
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 1:50 PM ET #56

Quote Originally Posted by MastaLock:

Quote Originally Posted by beaverfan23:

Official Saturday Plays:

URI +11.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
UNLV +9.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Hofstra -2.5 (Home, Fave, Toward)
Indiana +5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
Ark LR +9.5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
USC +1.5 (Home, Dog, Away)
SDak +6.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
WKy +6.5* (Road, Dog, Toward)
TXAM -20* (Home, Fave, Toward)
SeMoSt -3.5* (Home, Fave, Toward)
Gonz -4 (Home, Fave, Away)
Pacific +10.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Ohio -4.5 (Road, Fave, Toward)

13 Plays - Those with the *** are close to going over 65% public plays.  If they go over they will be taken off the card, keep an eye on them.

BOL to everyone today

How come OHIO st is getting 1 point now what happen did someone get hurt?? 


No idea. 
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Quote Originally Posted by MastaLock:

Quote Originally Posted by beaverfan23:

Official Saturday Plays:

URI +11.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
UNLV +9.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Hofstra -2.5 (Home, Fave, Toward)
Indiana +5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
Ark LR +9.5 (Home, Dog, Toward)
USC +1.5 (Home, Dog, Away)
SDak +6.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
WKy +6.5* (Road, Dog, Toward)
TXAM -20* (Home, Fave, Toward)
SeMoSt -3.5* (Home, Fave, Toward)
Gonz -4 (Home, Fave, Away)
Pacific +10.5 (Road, Dog, Toward)
Ohio -4.5 (Road, Fave, Toward)

13 Plays - Those with the *** are close to going over 65% public plays.  If they go over they will be taken off the card, keep an eye on them.

BOL to everyone today

How come OHIO st is getting 1 point now what happen did someone get hurt?? 


No idea. 
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 1:56 PM ET #57

The preseason All-American has been hobbled by a bad back, and Buckeyes coach Thad Matta said he won’t know until Saturday whether the big guy will be available. Sullinger missed their 64-35 victory over Texas Pan-American last Saturday, but he’s practiced a bit this week.
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The preseason All-American has been hobbled by a bad back, and Buckeyes coach Thad Matta said he won’t know until Saturday whether the big guy will be available. Sullinger missed their 64-35 victory over Texas Pan-American last Saturday, but he’s practiced a bit this week.
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 2:06 PM ET #58

on 2 with ya brother

unlv and usc

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on 2 with ya brother

unlv and usc

 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 2:38 PM ET #59

I must say i am a little wary of Toledo and being ranked 299 by Kenpom and playing a cupcake schedule.... BUT there is so much steam on them right now up to -6.5 on heritage that I feel Vegas has a better handle on this game..... we will see.... good luck everybody!
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I must say i am a little wary of Toledo and being ranked 299 by Kenpom and playing a cupcake schedule.... BUT there is so much steam on them right now up to -6.5 on heritage that I feel Vegas has a better handle on this game..... we will see.... good luck everybody!
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 2:46 PM ET #60

Quote Originally Posted by Fools_Gold:

I must say i am a little wary of Toledo and being ranked 299 by Kenpom and playing a cupcake schedule.... BUT there is so much steam on them right now up to -6.5 on heritage that I feel Vegas has a better handle on this game..... we will see.... good luck everybody!


Toledo is not a play.  Public is on them too heavy.  Check official plays
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Quote Originally Posted by Fools_Gold:

I must say i am a little wary of Toledo and being ranked 299 by Kenpom and playing a cupcake schedule.... BUT there is so much steam on them right now up to -6.5 on heritage that I feel Vegas has a better handle on this game..... we will see.... good luck everybody!


Toledo is not a play.  Public is on them too heavy.  Check official plays
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 3:19 PM ET #61

Rhode Island is brutal, one of the worst teams in Division I but they keep showing up as plays
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Rhode Island is brutal, one of the worst teams in Division I but they keep showing up as plays
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 3:58 PM ET #62

Fuck Ben Brust
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 4:58 PM ET #63

Quote Originally Posted by beaverfan23:



Toledo is not a play.  Public is on them too heavy.  Check official plays


damn i blew that one.... placed it last night when it moved up.... welp they were up 14 in the 2nd half and blew it... they looked real ugly and lackadasical w/ that lead... 29-13 Loyola went in the last 16 mins to win at the buzzer by 2...
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Toledo is not a play.  Public is on them too heavy.  Check official plays


damn i blew that one.... placed it last night when it moved up.... welp they were up 14 in the 2nd half and blew it... they looked real ugly and lackadasical w/ that lead... 29-13 Loyola went in the last 16 mins to win at the buzzer by 2...
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 5:05 PM ET #64

HOw about that TOLEDO team???

Just saying....

Thanks again COVERS COMMUNITY....
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HOw about that TOLEDO team???

Just saying....

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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 5:43 PM ET #65

yikes! rough start today 0-3. I hope your day improves
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yikes! rough start today 0-3. I hope your day improves
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 5:52 PM ET #66

Quote Originally Posted by beatthelocal:

HOw about that TOLEDO team???

Just saying....

Thanks again COVERS COMMUNITY....


In the immortal words of Julius Caesar, "Take your sarcasm and shove it firmly up your ass!"

No need to rub ANYONE'S nose in any loss, especially someone like Beaver here who is working a system where picking and choosing which bets to play would be suicide.

We're here to beat the books - you seem to be here to beat your own drum.
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Quote Originally Posted by beatthelocal:

HOw about that TOLEDO team???

Just saying....

Thanks again COVERS COMMUNITY....


In the immortal words of Julius Caesar, "Take your sarcasm and shove it firmly up your ass!"

No need to rub ANYONE'S nose in any loss, especially someone like Beaver here who is working a system where picking and choosing which bets to play would be suicide.

We're here to beat the books - you seem to be here to beat your own drum.
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 6:11 PM ET #67

Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat36:



In the immortal words of Julius Caesar, "Take your sarcasm and shove it firmly up your ass!"

No need to rub ANYONE'S nose in any loss, especially someone like Beaver here who is working a system where picking and choosing which bets to play would be suicide.

We're here to beat the books - you seem to be here to beat your own drum.

Mega asked for an analysis and I gave it....Loyola-Chi Latte +6....so whats the issue??? Listen, I have tried every system in the book....they don't work....look at some of my posts from last year....systems are amazing for a month or so....then they blow up because the computer and information you are getting...guess what  
SO ARE THE VEGAS LINE MAKERS!!!!

Stop trying to find an easy way and cap the game with your mind, not a computer program....
 
Just sayin...
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In the immortal words of Julius Caesar, "Take your sarcasm and shove it firmly up your ass!"

No need to rub ANYONE'S nose in any loss, especially someone like Beaver here who is working a system where picking and choosing which bets to play would be suicide.

We're here to beat the books - you seem to be here to beat your own drum.

Mega asked for an analysis and I gave it....Loyola-Chi Latte +6....so whats the issue??? Listen, I have tried every system in the book....they don't work....look at some of my posts from last year....systems are amazing for a month or so....then they blow up because the computer and information you are getting...guess what  
SO ARE THE VEGAS LINE MAKERS!!!!

Stop trying to find an easy way and cap the game with your mind, not a computer program....
 
Just sayin...
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 6:24 PM ET #68

Beat the local was expressing his thought that toledo was a false favorite, he was right.... although they looked good for a while. Beaver took toledo out of system so i dont think Local meant any harm.
Anyhow, local, while i agree with u in theory systems are a good guide. I think this is a good 1, but i do think we need to fine tune it.
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Beat the local was expressing his thought that toledo was a false favorite, he was right.... although they looked good for a while. Beaver took toledo out of system so i dont think Local meant any harm.
Anyhow, local, while i agree with u in theory systems are a good guide. I think this is a good 1, but i do think we need to fine tune it.
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 6:25 PM ET #69

Quote Originally Posted by beatthelocal:


Mega asked for an analysis and I gave it....Loyola-Chi Latte +6....so whats the issue??? Listen, I have tried every system in the book....they don't work....look at some of my posts from last year....systems are amazing for a month or so....then they blow up because the computer and information you are getting...guess what  
SO ARE THE VEGAS LINE MAKERS!!!!

Stop trying to find an easy way and cap the game with your mind, not a computer program....
 
Just sayin...

What you said in post 64 said nothing about "stop trying to find an easy way...not a computer program"

Just saying...

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Mega asked for an analysis and I gave it....Loyola-Chi Latte +6....so whats the issue??? Listen, I have tried every system in the book....they don't work....look at some of my posts from last year....systems are amazing for a month or so....then they blow up because the computer and information you are getting...guess what  
SO ARE THE VEGAS LINE MAKERS!!!!

Stop trying to find an easy way and cap the game with your mind, not a computer program....
 
Just sayin...

What you said in post 64 said nothing about "stop trying to find an easy way...not a computer program"

Just saying...

 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 6:30 PM ET #70

Quote Originally Posted by beatthelocal:


Mega asked for an analysis and I gave it....Loyola-Chi Latte +6....so whats the issue??? Listen, I have tried every system in the book....they don't work....look at some of my posts from last year....systems are amazing for a month or so....then they blow up because the computer and information you are getting...guess what  
SO ARE THE VEGAS LINE MAKERS!!!!

Stop trying to find an easy way and cap the game with your mind, not a computer program....
 
Just sayin...


To me, and maybe I'm not as sophisticated as you, this does not sound like "giving advice"? This sounds more like "you fucking idiots I tried to tell you. Oh and by they way, thanks for the winner 'cause I faded your stupid asses"

HOw about that TOLEDO team???

Just saying....

Thanks again COVERS COMMUNITY....

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Mega asked for an analysis and I gave it....Loyola-Chi Latte +6....so whats the issue??? Listen, I have tried every system in the book....they don't work....look at some of my posts from last year....systems are amazing for a month or so....then they blow up because the computer and information you are getting...guess what  
SO ARE THE VEGAS LINE MAKERS!!!!

Stop trying to find an easy way and cap the game with your mind, not a computer program....
 
Just sayin...


To me, and maybe I'm not as sophisticated as you, this does not sound like "giving advice"? This sounds more like "you fucking idiots I tried to tell you. Oh and by they way, thanks for the winner 'cause I faded your stupid asses"

HOw about that TOLEDO team???

Just saying....

Thanks again COVERS COMMUNITY....

 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 6:31 PM ET #71

Quote Originally Posted by Seymour24:

What you said in post 64 said nothing about "stop trying to find an easy way...not a computer program"

Just saying...


Oh really?? Thanks for letting me know....

well in post #67, I gave my opinion on systems....
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What you said in post 64 said nothing about "stop trying to find an easy way...not a computer program"

Just saying...


Oh really?? Thanks for letting me know....

well in post #67, I gave my opinion on systems....
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 6:32 PM ET #72

And FURTHERMORE, if you had bothered to read Beaver's post (this is HIS thread, not Megatron's) Toledo wasn't even a play in the first place due to the amount of public action on them.

F*cking ponce.
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And FURTHERMORE, if you had bothered to read Beaver's post (this is HIS thread, not Megatron's) Toledo wasn't even a play in the first place due to the amount of public action on them.

F*cking ponce.
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 6:33 PM ET #73

ArkLR got outscored 25-9 to close out the half.  Hope this day takes a good turn pretty soon
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 6:34 PM ET #74

BAD BEAT ON UNLV 7- 3 POINTERS IN A ROW AND ONLY A LOSS BY A BASKET IT WAS A GOOD PICK  AND BEVER MADE A GREAT DECISION TO NOT PLAY TOLEDO

KEEP THE FAITH

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BAD BEAT ON UNLV 7- 3 POINTERS IN A ROW AND ONLY A LOSS BY A BASKET IT WAS A GOOD PICK  AND BEVER MADE A GREAT DECISION TO NOT PLAY TOLEDO

KEEP THE FAITH

 
 
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Posted: Dec. 10, 2011 - 6:34 PM ET #75

Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat36:



To me, and maybe I'm not as sophisticated as you, this does not sound like "giving advice"? This sounds more like "you fucking idiots I tried to tell you. Oh and by they way, thanks for the winner 'cause I faded your stupid asses"

HOw about that TOLEDO team???

Just saying....

Thanks again COVERS COMMUNITY....


POST #51....take a read, that was my response to Mega....

Nevermind, this is why I hate posting my opinion on Covers....if you lose you get laughed at and called named for your opinions...

you win and its the same damn thing....

good luck everyone, I wish you success with your system plays or any plays from here on out....

my plays are posted in the cbb contest....ridicule all you want...

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Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat36:



To me, and maybe I'm not as sophisticated as you, this does not sound like "giving advice"? This sounds more like "you fucking idiots I tried to tell you. Oh and by they way, thanks for the winner 'cause I faded your stupid asses"

HOw about that TOLEDO team???

Just saying....

Thanks again COVERS COMMUNITY....


POST #51....take a read, that was my response to Mega....

Nevermind, this is why I hate posting my opinion on Covers....if you lose you get laughed at and called named for your opinions...

you win and its the same damn thing....

good luck everyone, I wish you success with your system plays or any plays from here on out....

my plays are posted in the cbb contest....ridicule all you want...

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