St Joes was not a pick. Shirley had it at 6.2 and line was -3.5 = 2.7 Should have been a play on Fordham.
The entire game was a NO PLAY.....Fordham was certainly NOT the play......
Again...as Shirley has stated again and again.....you are looking for dogs with an advantage of 3 pts or greater (strongest plays are 4 or greater).....
Shirley's computer line was SJ -6.2...the actual line was SJ -5.....this is actually a 1.2 pt advantage to SJ...........Even if your line WAS -3.5....it would still only be a 2.7 pt advantage for ST JOE'S.............
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Quote Originally Posted by SonnySixKill:
St Joes was not a pick. Shirley had it at 6.2 and line was -3.5 = 2.7 Should have been a play on Fordham.
The entire game was a NO PLAY.....Fordham was certainly NOT the play......
Again...as Shirley has stated again and again.....you are looking for dogs with an advantage of 3 pts or greater (strongest plays are 4 or greater).....
Shirley's computer line was SJ -6.2...the actual line was SJ -5.....this is actually a 1.2 pt advantage to SJ...........Even if your line WAS -3.5....it would still only be a 2.7 pt advantage for ST JOE'S.............
St Joe's was actually a NO PLAY.....Shirley's line was SJ -6.2....the actual line was -5.....
How in the world did you think this was a "strong" pick?
I agree... It was a no-pick.... took for 0.25 units for shits and giggles based on all that I had won on the earlier picks.
Shirley, Please know that we all appreciate all that you do and the bashers are just touts or bookies trying to throw you off your game. Keep doing what you're doing and hurt them most where it hurts.. In the pocketbook.
Thanks for all of us novices that need honest help!
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Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Knuckles:
St Joe's was actually a NO PLAY.....Shirley's line was SJ -6.2....the actual line was -5.....
How in the world did you think this was a "strong" pick?
I agree... It was a no-pick.... took for 0.25 units for shits and giggles based on all that I had won on the earlier picks.
Shirley, Please know that we all appreciate all that you do and the bashers are just touts or bookies trying to throw you off your game. Keep doing what you're doing and hurt them most where it hurts.. In the pocketbook.
Thanks for all of us novices that need honest help!
The entire game was a NO PLAY.....Fordham was certainly NOT the play......
Again...as Shirley has stated again and again.....you are looking for dogs with an advantage of 3 pts or greater (strongest plays are 4 or greater).....
Shirley's computer line was SJ -6.2...the actual line was SJ -5.....this is actually a 1.2 pt advantage to SJ...........Even if your line WAS -3.5....it would still only be a 2.7 pt advantage for ST JOE'S.............
I will play it anyway next time. I am greedy.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Knuckles:
The entire game was a NO PLAY.....Fordham was certainly NOT the play......
Again...as Shirley has stated again and again.....you are looking for dogs with an advantage of 3 pts or greater (strongest plays are 4 or greater).....
Shirley's computer line was SJ -6.2...the actual line was SJ -5.....this is actually a 1.2 pt advantage to SJ...........Even if your line WAS -3.5....it would still only be a 2.7 pt advantage for ST JOE'S.............
Well I must say that it has been a delightful afternoon. I've made some nice coin, thanks to Shirley. I've laughed my ass off at the ramblings of sparty444 I'm looking forward to Duke cruising and covering. Life is almost perfect. It will be perfect if Justin Bieber wins new artist of the year in the Grammy's. I picked this bet up at +176 a week ago. Last I looked the odds were -176 or about that. My 13 year old tells me he is a lock.
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Well I must say that it has been a delightful afternoon. I've made some nice coin, thanks to Shirley. I've laughed my ass off at the ramblings of sparty444 I'm looking forward to Duke cruising and covering. Life is almost perfect. It will be perfect if Justin Bieber wins new artist of the year in the Grammy's. I picked this bet up at +176 a week ago. Last I looked the odds were -176 or about that. My 13 year old tells me he is a lock.
Am I surprised at your good run. No as I said in my post it was long due. What surprised me was the futility of your efforts for the preceding two months until now. They were not good at all.
How do I rate your handicapping compared to others here. Streaky and not as well rounded as some of the best. I am certainly not going to use this hot stretch as your benchmark because quite simply it is not indicative of your posting career. You are getting a lot of mileage as compared to this thread in which you spend the better part of a day talking to yourself
I even gave you a nice plug in that one, letting posters know that this angle works well in March Madness.
As you have said it is what is working for you now. In a week or two it may be totals instead of sides. I have seen no evidence of a streak like this by you before and I repeat it certainly was due.
Why would I tear your numbers apart. I have no idea how they are formulated. That would not be fair to you at all. I have in many of your threads supported the general concept however.
I sincerely hope you keep it going. There was another capper here not long ago, posted like a hood rat, couldn't spell his own name for crying out loud, went 23-3. Great run as well but that is what it was, a great run. I recall a time a few years back where I went crazy, hitting over 80% for two months. I quickly reverted to the 60% I had and continue to play at.
If you are truly here for the good of all that would be great. I have yet to see a thread with this type of window dressing that was well meant. I welcome you to prove me wrong. If you conveniently provide another means for others to get this information because you are "away on business" or "under the weather" as I suspect will happen soon, I will have served my purpose having warned the posting community of the possibility.
Either way, keep up the hot streak.
Time will tell the rest of the story.
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Time will tell Shirley. It always does.
Am I surprised at your good run. No as I said in my post it was long due. What surprised me was the futility of your efforts for the preceding two months until now. They were not good at all.
How do I rate your handicapping compared to others here. Streaky and not as well rounded as some of the best. I am certainly not going to use this hot stretch as your benchmark because quite simply it is not indicative of your posting career. You are getting a lot of mileage as compared to this thread in which you spend the better part of a day talking to yourself
I even gave you a nice plug in that one, letting posters know that this angle works well in March Madness.
As you have said it is what is working for you now. In a week or two it may be totals instead of sides. I have seen no evidence of a streak like this by you before and I repeat it certainly was due.
Why would I tear your numbers apart. I have no idea how they are formulated. That would not be fair to you at all. I have in many of your threads supported the general concept however.
I sincerely hope you keep it going. There was another capper here not long ago, posted like a hood rat, couldn't spell his own name for crying out loud, went 23-3. Great run as well but that is what it was, a great run. I recall a time a few years back where I went crazy, hitting over 80% for two months. I quickly reverted to the 60% I had and continue to play at.
If you are truly here for the good of all that would be great. I have yet to see a thread with this type of window dressing that was well meant. I welcome you to prove me wrong. If you conveniently provide another means for others to get this information because you are "away on business" or "under the weather" as I suspect will happen soon, I will have served my purpose having warned the posting community of the possibility.
Please enlighten us with your knowledge and handicapping expertise.
Shirley
Shirley don't waste your time and energy replying to jokers that hate. Those that follow and profit from your analysis appreciate the work you put in and your generosity for sharing it. I never understood people bashing others in a thread. If you don't like someone's picks why even read the thread in the first place. If you think they really are that bad at handicapping fade their plays but the bashing is just unnecessary.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by shirley-jester]
Sparty, scroll above for the explanation.
Do you have any picks for tomorrow, Sparty?
Please enlighten us with your knowledge and handicapping expertise.
Shirley
Shirley don't waste your time and energy replying to jokers that hate. Those that follow and profit from your analysis appreciate the work you put in and your generosity for sharing it. I never understood people bashing others in a thread. If you don't like someone's picks why even read the thread in the first place. If you think they really are that bad at handicapping fade their plays but the bashing is just unnecessary.
[Quote: Originally Posted by SonnySixKill] St Joes was not a pick. Shirley had it at 6.2 and line was -3.5 = 2.7 Should have been a play on Fordham.
I had them -3 and teased to +7...you are right...I misread it. Not a strong pick....or really a pick at all. Maybe pull off the tease...doubt it...lol.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by SonnySixKill] St Joes was not a pick. Shirley had it at 6.2 and line was -3.5 = 2.7 Should have been a play on Fordham.
I had them -3 and teased to +7...you are right...I misread it. Not a strong pick....or really a pick at all. Maybe pull off the tease...doubt it...lol.
The entire game was a NO PLAY.....Fordham was certainly NOT the play......
Again...as Shirley has stated again and again.....you are looking for dogs with an advantage of 3 pts or greater (strongest plays are 4 or greater).....
Shirley's computer line was SJ -6.2...the actual line was SJ -5.....this is actually a 1.2 pt advantage to SJ...........Even if your line WAS -3.5....it would still only be a 2.7 pt advantage for ST JOE'S.............
I understand the dogs would be the best play...but how about the favs as long as the math works out...the 4 point delta?
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Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Knuckles:
The entire game was a NO PLAY.....Fordham was certainly NOT the play......
Again...as Shirley has stated again and again.....you are looking for dogs with an advantage of 3 pts or greater (strongest plays are 4 or greater).....
Shirley's computer line was SJ -6.2...the actual line was SJ -5.....this is actually a 1.2 pt advantage to SJ...........Even if your line WAS -3.5....it would still only be a 2.7 pt advantage for ST JOE'S.............
I understand the dogs would be the best play...but how about the favs as long as the math works out...the 4 point delta?
I also make part of my plays ml if the dogs are under 6
30% 1-3
25 % 3.5-5.5
if home dog 40%
i also take the 3 top plays and play them in a 2 team round robin parlay if there is a significant difference from the posted lines
yest i sweep them hofstra, tenn and long beach st. thursday i went 1/3 on the parlays but still a winning bet winning with Troy/LB state and losing 2 parlays with Cal..
todays card is minimal so i played it..
$75 :
ST JOHNS +5.5
XAVIER +5.5
ST JOES -4
$70:
PURDUE +3
$30:ML
PURDUE +135
$25 ML:
ST JOHNS +190
XAVIER +205
I ALSO BET :
IOWA PK (PERSONAL PLAY)
INSTEAD OF THE PARLAY I PLAYED THIS TEASER:
DUKE -2.5
VA TECH -3.5
PURDUE +10
I DIDN'T WIN AS MUCH ON THE TENN GAME YEST BUT IT ALSO REDUCED THE VIG ON SOME OF THE LOSSES
ALSO STOP WITH THE WINNING..I MADE OVER 2K WITH SHIRLEYS PLAYS THIS WEEK.."SYSTEMS" ARE TO BE PLAYED AS SYSTEMS ..NOT PICKED AND CHOSEN AS "YOU " DECIDE..
ALOT OF SHIT HAPPENS ON SATURDAYS..ALWAYS HAS AND ALWAYS WILL..FOR WHAT EVER REASONS..I WON'T GET INTO THAT DEBATE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S THREAD.
THANKS SHIRLEY ..PERHAPS IF YOU WORK SCHEDULE KEEPS YOU TIED UP, YOUR PARTNER COULD EMAIL YOU A FEW PLAYS AND YOU CAN CONVEY THEM TO THE MASSES
CONTINUED SUCCESS
ST JOES NOT LOOKING TOO GOOD BUT I SWEPT THE ML PLAYS AND FIRST 2/3 OF THE TEASER..GO BLUE DEVILS
AND THANK YOU SHIRLEY UP ALMOST $2500 THIS WEEK
MUCH BETTER THAN I DID ON MY OWN IN HOOPS
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Quote Originally Posted by MR TINGLES:
I WOUND UP 17-12 YEST I SKIPPED THE FRESNO GAME
I also make part of my plays ml if the dogs are under 6
30% 1-3
25 % 3.5-5.5
if home dog 40%
i also take the 3 top plays and play them in a 2 team round robin parlay if there is a significant difference from the posted lines
yest i sweep them hofstra, tenn and long beach st. thursday i went 1/3 on the parlays but still a winning bet winning with Troy/LB state and losing 2 parlays with Cal..
todays card is minimal so i played it..
$75 :
ST JOHNS +5.5
XAVIER +5.5
ST JOES -4
$70:
PURDUE +3
$30:ML
PURDUE +135
$25 ML:
ST JOHNS +190
XAVIER +205
I ALSO BET :
IOWA PK (PERSONAL PLAY)
INSTEAD OF THE PARLAY I PLAYED THIS TEASER:
DUKE -2.5
VA TECH -3.5
PURDUE +10
I DIDN'T WIN AS MUCH ON THE TENN GAME YEST BUT IT ALSO REDUCED THE VIG ON SOME OF THE LOSSES
ALSO STOP WITH THE WINNING..I MADE OVER 2K WITH SHIRLEYS PLAYS THIS WEEK.."SYSTEMS" ARE TO BE PLAYED AS SYSTEMS ..NOT PICKED AND CHOSEN AS "YOU " DECIDE..
ALOT OF SHIT HAPPENS ON SATURDAYS..ALWAYS HAS AND ALWAYS WILL..FOR WHAT EVER REASONS..I WON'T GET INTO THAT DEBATE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S THREAD.
THANKS SHIRLEY ..PERHAPS IF YOU WORK SCHEDULE KEEPS YOU TIED UP, YOUR PARTNER COULD EMAIL YOU A FEW PLAYS AND YOU CAN CONVEY THEM TO THE MASSES
CONTINUED SUCCESS
ST JOES NOT LOOKING TOO GOOD BUT I SWEPT THE ML PLAYS AND FIRST 2/3 OF THE TEASER..GO BLUE DEVILS
Wow....huge comeback for St. Joe's....I hope they pull it off for anyone that hit that game....
Sweet...and I got them +7, which brings the next question...if one teases the line into Shirleys optimum range...is that still acceptable, or is it really more for "pure" lines based on math...just curious. Obviously +7 would be a delta close to 13.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Knuckles:
Wow....huge comeback for St. Joe's....I hope they pull it off for anyone that hit that game....
Sweet...and I got them +7, which brings the next question...if one teases the line into Shirleys optimum range...is that still acceptable, or is it really more for "pure" lines based on math...just curious. Obviously +7 would be a delta close to 13.
SPARTY44- honestly dude u are one of the worst cappers on this site.. I dont post much but I read just about everything on this site. Everytime someone posts picks and wins u run and call them a tout. U constantly sit here n criticize people. The fact is, u have no idea what its like to win games. U suck. I would bet my life that u are following every single one of shirleys picks, kines picks, u followed fr3shs picks when he was here, and im sure other people who say they have systems, then u go and talk shit. Lets say for instance they are touts, WHO CARES. They are obviously posting their plays in here for people to see them. If they wanna charge for picks and stop posting them in here thats fine. Thats their choice. Theres no reason for u to be jealous and bitch about everything. Im sure if u were even close to good at capping games, u could start ur own damn thread and post ur plays. I gurantee if u were good at it u could charge people. So dont be a bitch because some people are good handicappers and u suck. Do u go on tout websites and email them and call them touts and bitch about them too? Shit dude grow the hell up
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SPARTY44- honestly dude u are one of the worst cappers on this site.. I dont post much but I read just about everything on this site. Everytime someone posts picks and wins u run and call them a tout. U constantly sit here n criticize people. The fact is, u have no idea what its like to win games. U suck. I would bet my life that u are following every single one of shirleys picks, kines picks, u followed fr3shs picks when he was here, and im sure other people who say they have systems, then u go and talk shit. Lets say for instance they are touts, WHO CARES. They are obviously posting their plays in here for people to see them. If they wanna charge for picks and stop posting them in here thats fine. Thats their choice. Theres no reason for u to be jealous and bitch about everything. Im sure if u were even close to good at capping games, u could start ur own damn thread and post ur plays. I gurantee if u were good at it u could charge people. So dont be a bitch because some people are good handicappers and u suck. Do u go on tout websites and email them and call them touts and bitch about them too? Shit dude grow the hell up
So is Duke a play? From what I see, it's not. Her line is -11 and the books line is -9? There is not a 4 point differential...is that correct?
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Actually if her line is 11 and book line is 9 thats a 2 point difference, you play favs if there is a 4 point difference. you tell me if duke is the play.
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Quote Originally Posted by Elevation:
So is Duke a play? From what I see, it's not. Her line is -11 and the books line is -9? There is not a 4 point differential...is that correct?
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Actually if her line is 11 and book line is 9 thats a 2 point difference, you play favs if there is a 4 point difference. you tell me if duke is the play.
I just wanted to say that your lines and my lines are about 95 % the same in all cases. Though you stated that you ONLY posted the lines in which they are Potential Plays I curiously wondered why Duke is not a play. For example
Books Line Shirley Jester Counting The Deck
Duke -9 Duke - 11 Duke -17
You stated that in order to make a play on favorites you must have at least a 4 point differential. Although your system of late has had success as you mentioned predicting the Duke games, how does a 2.2 point differential now make it a play? just curious?
Also on the Southern Illinois/ Creighton Game I have the the Salukis winning by 7 on the road?
Books Line Shirleys Line Counting The Deck
+9 No Edge?? Visitor -7
Also for tomorrow, they is no line posted yet. But I'll post what they will put up. Any thoughts?
Books Line Shirleys Line Counting The Deck
Syracuse-5 ?? Syracuse -5
Kansas -8 ?? Kansas -7
Hawaii -1 ?? Hawaii - 3
Predicted Scores
Duke 82
MiamiFlorida 65
Southern Illinois 70
Creighton 63
Thanks again Shirley!!
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Shirley Great job the past few days!!
I just wanted to say that your lines and my lines are about 95 % the same in all cases. Though you stated that you ONLY posted the lines in which they are Potential Plays I curiously wondered why Duke is not a play. For example
Books Line Shirley Jester Counting The Deck
Duke -9 Duke - 11 Duke -17
You stated that in order to make a play on favorites you must have at least a 4 point differential. Although your system of late has had success as you mentioned predicting the Duke games, how does a 2.2 point differential now make it a play? just curious?
Also on the Southern Illinois/ Creighton Game I have the the Salukis winning by 7 on the road?
Books Line Shirleys Line Counting The Deck
+9 No Edge?? Visitor -7
Also for tomorrow, they is no line posted yet. But I'll post what they will put up. Any thoughts?
Hope everyone went 3 - 0, and is not trying to get greedy.........
Stayed with the biggest line differentials, and had 3 dogs, not only cover, but win outright. I didn't take the ML, but the pts made me feel real comfortable.
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Quote Originally Posted by jennado:
Let's cash -
Johnnies (+6) bought hook
Xav (+6) bought hook
Pur +3
Hope everyone went 3 - 0, and is not trying to get greedy.........
Stayed with the biggest line differentials, and had 3 dogs, not only cover, but win outright. I didn't take the ML, but the pts made me feel real comfortable.
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I've laughed my ass off at the ramblings of sparty444
I'm looking forward to Duke cruising and covering. Life is almost perfect. It will be perfect if Justin Bieber wins new artist of the year in the Grammy's. I picked this bet up at +176 a week ago. Last I looked the odds were -176 or about that. My 13 year old tells me he is a lock.
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