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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 11:34 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by shirley-jester:

    Jimmer is tough on the road. He played in a prison against the inmates, so he is used to a hostile environment. This is a true story!

    Shirley



    Shirley, I did not know this, he's going to make an incredible pro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shirley-jester:

    Jimmer is tough on the road. He played in a prison against the inmates, so he is used to a hostile environment. This is a true story!

    Shirley



    Shirley, I did not know this, he's going to make an incredible pro.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 11:44 AM ET #27

    SonnySixKill

    I don't think either of those games has a chance of being a play, but the second it becomes one, I know you'll be all over it!

    Headjammer  The only team I perceived as offering value was San Francisco vs Hawaii. It's still  not a play, just what I thought was the best of the "no plays" of the day, at that point in time.

    Gassman33

    NHL NO, MLB Yes, with success. There is no way I can committ to posting BB plays, I'm simply too busy. BOL

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    SonnySixKill

    I don't think either of those games has a chance of being a play, but the second it becomes one, I know you'll be all over it!

    Headjammer  The only team I perceived as offering value was San Francisco vs Hawaii. It's still  not a play, just what I thought was the best of the "no plays" of the day, at that point in time.

    Gassman33

    NHL NO, MLB Yes, with success. There is no way I can committ to posting BB plays, I'm simply too busy. BOL

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 11:53 AM ET #28

    Crowndaking

    They had a tv special on him, and I was fortunate enough to be able to view part of it at a later date.

    It has made him a great player on the road, as he fears nothing. After playing vs the inmates, the rest is cake, right?

    Still BB is a team game, and balance is dangerous. If Jimmer is off, they lose. If Grey is off, the zags can still win, as as they might have more court balance than BYU. I'm not betting the game, this is just my opinion, and Jimmer is amazing!

    Shirley

     

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    Crowndaking

    They had a tv special on him, and I was fortunate enough to be able to view part of it at a later date.

    It has made him a great player on the road, as he fears nothing. After playing vs the inmates, the rest is cake, right?

    Still BB is a team game, and balance is dangerous. If Jimmer is off, they lose. If Grey is off, the zags can still win, as as they might have more court balance than BYU. I'm not betting the game, this is just my opinion, and Jimmer is amazing!

    Shirley

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 12:00 PM ET #29

    ALAPAHA

    Shirley

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    ALAPAHA

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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 12:56 PM ET #30

    Shirley, would you be so kind as to explain how you came about developing your mathematical models for line spreads... is it some form of calculus or an algorythim of sorts? I am most interested.
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    Shirley, would you be so kind as to explain how you came about developing your mathematical models for line spreads... is it some form of calculus or an algorythim of sorts? I am most interested.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 4:06 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by shirley-jester:

    Crowndaking

    They had a tv special on him, and I was fortunate enough to be able to view part of it at a later date.

    It has made him a great player on the road, as he fears nothing. After playing vs the inmates, the rest is cake, right?

    Still BB is a team game, and balance is dangerous. If Jimmer is off, they lose. If Grey is off, the zags can still win, as as they might have more court balance than BYU. I'm not betting the game, this is just my opinion, and Jimmer is amazing!

    Shirley

     



    Shirley, I crown you the "King" of today's Forum

    I have BYU winning this by 5pts; Jimmer will run circles around the Zag guards; he knows how much is at stake and Rose will get these guys up up and up for this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by shirley-jester:

    Crowndaking

    They had a tv special on him, and I was fortunate enough to be able to view part of it at a later date.

    It has made him a great player on the road, as he fears nothing. After playing vs the inmates, the rest is cake, right?

    Still BB is a team game, and balance is dangerous. If Jimmer is off, they lose. If Grey is off, the zags can still win, as as they might have more court balance than BYU. I'm not betting the game, this is just my opinion, and Jimmer is amazing!

    Shirley

     



    Shirley, I crown you the "King" of today's Forum

    I have BYU winning this by 5pts; Jimmer will run circles around the Zag guards; he knows how much is at stake and Rose will get these guys up up and up for this one
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 4:10 PM ET #32

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXE4sicV7Gs
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXE4sicV7Gs
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 10:18 PM ET #33

    As of the end of the BYU-Gonzaga game which finished moments ago, I have listed the following adjustments for each of the major conferences. Thus provides a reference point, in real time, that quantifies each conference, and their performance level in the tourney so far.

    When I make the lines, these are added in, but since game scores are continously flowing in, they are dynamic in nature and ever channging.

    ACC           + .60

    Atlantic 10  - 1.40

    Big Beast   -.50

    Big 10       +3.20

    Big 12       -2.70

    SEC         +1.20

    MWC       +.80

    One game of interest, that is going on right now, is Wisc vs Kan St. According to my numbers this game would necessitate a 5.90 adjustment in favor of Wisconsin. The game was a no play today, and I personally would NEVER play it, because it is a favorite, but the result of this game will either  further confirm or tear apart my adjustment numbers.

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    As of the end of the BYU-Gonzaga game which finished moments ago, I have listed the following adjustments for each of the major conferences. Thus provides a reference point, in real time, that quantifies each conference, and their performance level in the tourney so far.

    When I make the lines, these are added in, but since game scores are continously flowing in, they are dynamic in nature and ever channging.

    ACC           + .60

    Atlantic 10  - 1.40

    Big Beast   -.50

    Big 10       +3.20

    Big 12       -2.70

    SEC         +1.20

    MWC       +.80

    One game of interest, that is going on right now, is Wisc vs Kan St. According to my numbers this game would necessitate a 5.90 adjustment in favor of Wisconsin. The game was a no play today, and I personally would NEVER play it, because it is a favorite, but the result of this game will either  further confirm or tear apart my adjustment numbers.

    Shirley

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 10:21 PM ET #34

    Shirley  do u have tommorrows games. Keep  up the great work  love reading your post.
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    Shirley  do u have tommorrows games. Keep  up the great work  love reading your post.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 10:22 PM ET #35

    Thank you as always,gl.

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    Thank you as always,gl.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 11:30 PM ET #36

    Nice call and adjustment on the wisky game shirley

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    Nice call and adjustment on the wisky game shirley

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 11:43 PM ET #37

    dead on shir-en-ator, nice work.
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    dead on shir-en-ator, nice work.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 11:46 PM ET #38

    Thanks for sharing all of your hard work!  I'm a novice at sports investing and find your posts very informative. 
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    Thanks for sharing all of your hard work!  I'm a novice at sports investing and find your posts very informative. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 11:55 PM ET #39

    Tomorrows games will be posted here, and in a separate thread. My target is 10 AM Sunday, although they could be ready hours earlier.

    The Wisconsin game is over, and they covered the spread by 1.50 poonts, no surprise there. Astonishingly, their result will actually LOWER the BIG 10 Conference adjustment numbers.

    The reason for this is that we use a "watered down" adjustment figure, because with such limited data from this tourney, we do not want any one game (  like a runaway victory  like BYU today), to deeply impact these adjusted numbers. This is the reason we use medians and never averages when handicapping basketball games. Our goal is to make the most games fall within certain confidence limits, and the use of medians helps in accomplishing this goal.

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    Tomorrows games will be posted here, and in a separate thread. My target is 10 AM Sunday, although they could be ready hours earlier.

    The Wisconsin game is over, and they covered the spread by 1.50 poonts, no surprise there. Astonishingly, their result will actually LOWER the BIG 10 Conference adjustment numbers.

    The reason for this is that we use a "watered down" adjustment figure, because with such limited data from this tourney, we do not want any one game (  like a runaway victory  like BYU today), to deeply impact these adjusted numbers. This is the reason we use medians and never averages when handicapping basketball games. Our goal is to make the most games fall within certain confidence limits, and the use of medians helps in accomplishing this goal.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 12:05 AM ET #40

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    The adjustments are also reflective of what we all know and feel when watching the games. It's something that is necessary during tournament time, given the overall lack of data points between the teams left.

    In retrospect, my Uconn - Cinn line should have the lowest variance, because they both particiapate in the Big East, with previous meetings and several common data points.

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    The adjustments are also reflective of what we all know and feel when watching the games. It's something that is necessary during tournament time, given the overall lack of data points between the teams left.

    In retrospect, my Uconn - Cinn line should have the lowest variance, because they both particiapate in the Big East, with previous meetings and several common data points.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 12:15 AM ET #41

    Great stuff as always Shirley.  I have to check and see what you have for the Hawaii/SF game.  I personally wanted to take SF @ -4.5 and I just got home from work and realized it is Hawaii -6.  You got any action on this one?

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    Great stuff as always Shirley.  I have to check and see what you have for the Hawaii/SF game.  I personally wanted to take SF @ -4.5 and I just got home from work and realized it is Hawaii -6.  You got any action on this one?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 12:40 AM ET #42

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    Initially this game was NOT a play, now at +6, it is still NOT a play!

    Why is this? There is a simple answer. BYU won by a hundred, Gonzaga lost by 100 points today. After the daily conference adjustments have been made, this game is not even close to being a play.

    Dynamic adjustments are necessary this time of year to weed out as many games as possible. What remains is usually pretty good.

    It's too bad, as this was my type of play, a dog on the road, underrated, etc.

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    If you send me a private email via the covers site, I will discuss with you some of the methodology involved with my projected pointspreads models.

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    Initially this game was NOT a play, now at +6, it is still NOT a play!

    Why is this? There is a simple answer. BYU won by a hundred, Gonzaga lost by 100 points today. After the daily conference adjustments have been made, this game is not even close to being a play.

    Dynamic adjustments are necessary this time of year to weed out as many games as possible. What remains is usually pretty good.

    It's too bad, as this was my type of play, a dog on the road, underrated, etc.

    Megatron27

    If you send me a private email via the covers site, I will discuss with you some of the methodology involved with my projected pointspreads models.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 3:42 AM ET #43

    SF !!
    I know it was a no play but it met the 3/4 criteria later in the day... 
    I'm a bad boy and played it anyways..... 
    I took the SF +6, SF ML and the OVER 65.5 for the first half.
    Thanks to your system it paid off! (sf +6)
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    SF !!
    I know it was a no play but it met the 3/4 criteria later in the day... 
    I'm a bad boy and played it anyways..... 
    I took the SF +6, SF ML and the OVER 65.5 for the first half.
    Thanks to your system it paid off! (sf +6)
    SHIRLEY
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 4:07 AM ET #44

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    Congratulation on you victory!  Don't fell like you have to apologize, you still had an edge on your wager, just not enough for me to play the game. Many people wagered on that game and  also on Uconn yesterday, because of my lines. USF was my personal favorite early, but the Wisc ML was a personal preference of mine later, after adjustments were incorporated into the mix.  Due to my conservative nature, I played neither of these games.

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    Congratulation on you victory!  Don't fell like you have to apologize, you still had an edge on your wager, just not enough for me to play the game. Many people wagered on that game and  also on Uconn yesterday, because of my lines. USF was my personal favorite early, but the Wisc ML was a personal preference of mine later, after adjustments were incorporated into the mix.  Due to my conservative nature, I played neither of these games.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 4:08 AM ET #45

    Yesterday only 1 game ventured into the wagering area, and that was USF vs Hawaii, which closed at +6.5.

    Using my raw numbers, this was a dog play and a winner. It was really the type of game which is a bankroll builder in the long haul. However, if you were privy to my conference adjustments, it became a no play. I am not counting this winner in my tournament record, which is not included in my regular season record listed below. I DID NOT PLAY THIS GAME.

    Overall covers win pct not counting tourney of 64   61.37%

    College basketball sides omitting Tourney of 64    59-26  69.41%

    NCAA Tourney of 64 record                                 10-3   76.92%.

    My lines are as follows:

    VT            5.10

    NC            9.10

    Duke        9.70

    Ohio St  11.80

    Tex          4.90

    Purdue  11.80

    Syr          4.50

    Kan         3.90

    ND          4.20

    It looks as if there will be some action today on a game or two. Please note that these lines include all conference adjustments through Saturday night. Best of luck

    Shirley

     

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    Yesterday only 1 game ventured into the wagering area, and that was USF vs Hawaii, which closed at +6.5.

    Using my raw numbers, this was a dog play and a winner. It was really the type of game which is a bankroll builder in the long haul. However, if you were privy to my conference adjustments, it became a no play. I am not counting this winner in my tournament record, which is not included in my regular season record listed below. I DID NOT PLAY THIS GAME.

    Overall covers win pct not counting tourney of 64   61.37%

    College basketball sides omitting Tourney of 64    59-26  69.41%

    NCAA Tourney of 64 record                                 10-3   76.92%.

    My lines are as follows:

    VT            5.10

    NC            9.10

    Duke        9.70

    Ohio St  11.80

    Tex          4.90

    Purdue  11.80

    Syr          4.50

    Kan         3.90

    ND          4.20

    It looks as if there will be some action today on a game or two. Please note that these lines include all conference adjustments through Saturday night. Best of luck

    Shirley

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 4:56 AM ET #46

    Thank you so much for posting these Shirley!  It looks like NC and Illinois are the plays tomorrow....I will be on both of them
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    Thank you so much for posting these Shirley!  It looks like NC and Illinois are the plays tomorrow....I will be on both of them
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 4:59 AM ET #47

    As of now it looks as though NC & KANSAS are plays, wait till closer to gametime though,gl.
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 7:23 AM ET #48

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    Sparticus

    My method currently selects Illinois and North Carolina, whom I might personally toss, because they are a favorite, and my conservative nature.

    Sparticus, you mentioned Kansas as a selection above, when it should have been Illinois.

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    Sparticus

    My method currently selects Illinois and North Carolina, whom I might personally toss, because they are a favorite, and my conservative nature.

    Sparticus, you mentioned Kansas as a selection above, when it should have been Illinois.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 9:14 AM ET #49

    shirley u cant be serious.........yes i am, and dont call me shirley-airplane. RIP Leslie 

    oh, by they way i like your projections.  esp unc game,  y is everyone thinkn wash is gonna win or cover

    All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy
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    shirley u cant be serious.........yes i am, and dont call me shirley-airplane. RIP Leslie 

    oh, by they way i like your projections.  esp unc game,  y is everyone thinkn wash is gonna win or cover

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 10:37 AM ET #50

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    I am quite serious..............

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5t5_O8hdA

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    I am quite serious..............

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5t5_O8hdA

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