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    SETON HALL vs GONZAGA. Anyone interested in reading a mini novel on this game?

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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 2:10 AM ET #26

    scal do u know anthing about baylor/yale
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    scal do u know anthing about baylor/yale
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 2:29 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     

    Villanova and Xavier are overrated and SH is well familiar with them. Their performances against them are not surprising (and even at that, they could have easily lost to Nova if a last second shot and one doesn't fall).

    And yes, the Zags play in a weak conference and that is well known but that is one of the reasons the write-up is so long.

    Their guards can contribute enough so that Wiltjer need only go for 20-21 (his averages). They have performed admirably as of late. They are getting bashed in the media but are quite efficient.

    Don't forget the screwjobs above too. This team hasn't had any significant travel of any kind to compare to this.


    I'd take the screwjobs above in addition to SH's lack of familiarity with any tournament experience whatsoever (both coach and players) over adjusted defense metrics.

     

    Do you trust Whitehead to take you home (he HAS to get it done in this spot for a win)? If this guy opens the game 2-7, watch out.


    Whitehead was 5-15 & 5-13 last 2 games vs Xavier yet they won both. He gets to the line so dang much...He should abuse Gonzaga's guards.

    At least Hall had the tourney in the Virgin Isles and a game at Wichita last year.



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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     

    Villanova and Xavier are overrated and SH is well familiar with them. Their performances against them are not surprising (and even at that, they could have easily lost to Nova if a last second shot and one doesn't fall).

    And yes, the Zags play in a weak conference and that is well known but that is one of the reasons the write-up is so long.

    Their guards can contribute enough so that Wiltjer need only go for 20-21 (his averages). They have performed admirably as of late. They are getting bashed in the media but are quite efficient.

    Don't forget the screwjobs above too. This team hasn't had any significant travel of any kind to compare to this.


    I'd take the screwjobs above in addition to SH's lack of familiarity with any tournament experience whatsoever (both coach and players) over adjusted defense metrics.

     

    Do you trust Whitehead to take you home (he HAS to get it done in this spot for a win)? If this guy opens the game 2-7, watch out.


    Whitehead was 5-15 & 5-13 last 2 games vs Xavier yet they won both. He gets to the line so dang much...He should abuse Gonzaga's guards.

    At least Hall had the tourney in the Virgin Isles and a game at Wichita last year.



     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 2:31 AM ET #28

    Hell of a cap. Had this as a lean, but locking it in. LET'S GET IT!
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    Hell of a cap. Had this as a lean, but locking it in. LET'S GET IT!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 2:39 AM ET #29

    I'm goin 1k on this Scal!! 

    Bol!
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    I'm goin 1k on this Scal!! 

    Bol!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 2:44 AM ET #30

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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 7:11 AM ET #31

    Thank you!
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    Thank you!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 7:31 AM ET #32

    @ian @jr - originally I wanted to take Iona + a ton of points vs. any team in the first round.

    Unfortunately, the tournament really screwed them by matching them up with the biggest bracket buster of last year in Iowa State who lost to a 14 seed in UAB.

    Their one goal is to advance this year (publicly stated).

    If that wasn't the case I'd take the points and run but because Iowa State will most likely win, 7.5 isn't enough for me to pull the trigger on Iona in a game that will be a monumental task to win outright.


    Ykim tasty milk tilting

    Tsw- he has to hit those free throws though. A lot more pressure in this game.

    Ian- not enough to recommend a side. 



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    @ian @jr - originally I wanted to take Iona + a ton of points vs. any team in the first round.

    Unfortunately, the tournament really screwed them by matching them up with the biggest bracket buster of last year in Iowa State who lost to a 14 seed in UAB.

    Their one goal is to advance this year (publicly stated).

    If that wasn't the case I'd take the points and run but because Iowa State will most likely win, 7.5 isn't enough for me to pull the trigger on Iona in a game that will be a monumental task to win outright.


    Ykim tasty milk tilting

    Tsw- he has to hit those free throws though. A lot more pressure in this game.

    Ian- not enough to recommend a side. 



     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 8:01 AM ET #33

    Nice write up man I agree that Gonzaga is the right side.
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    Nice write up man I agree that Gonzaga is the right side.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 8:20 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by lakerz:

    A nice read sir.  I am still looking at this game myself.  You make great points about the time and location and frontcourt/backcourt matchups.  Only thing stopping me is that Seton Hall has been making me $$$ the past week so hard to go against them all of a sudden.  But I do see your argument.

    'Emotional Betting' because a team made you money is a trap many fall prey to....Remember, we are here to break the books, and Scal just gave you a reason to help you detatch that emotional bond!  What you do with this information is your choice....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerz:

    A nice read sir.  I am still looking at this game myself.  You make great points about the time and location and frontcourt/backcourt matchups.  Only thing stopping me is that Seton Hall has been making me $$$ the past week so hard to go against them all of a sudden.  But I do see your argument.

    'Emotional Betting' because a team made you money is a trap many fall prey to....Remember, we are here to break the books, and Scal just gave you a reason to help you detatch that emotional bond!  What you do with this information is your choice....
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 9:09 AM ET #35

    Whit you in this ONE!
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    Whit you in this ONE!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 9:12 AM ET #36

    very appreciate of your time and effort for in depth review
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    very appreciate of your time and effort for in depth review
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 9:19 AM ET #37

    on the zags with you my man!

    Good luck!
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    on the zags with you my man!

    Good luck!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 10:48 AM ET #38

    Good luck scal. GO Zags
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    Good luck scal. GO Zags
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 10:58 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by gr8grins:


    'Emotional Betting' because a team made you money is a trap many fall prey to....Remember, we are here to break the books, and Scal just gave you a reason to help you detatch that emotional bond!  What you do with this information is your choice....

    I'll concur to that comment 
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    Quote Originally Posted by gr8grins:


    'Emotional Betting' because a team made you money is a trap many fall prey to....Remember, we are here to break the books, and Scal just gave you a reason to help you detatch that emotional bond!  What you do with this information is your choice....

    I'll concur to that comment 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 11:09 AM ET #40

    Great write up one of the best i have seen on covers. I am on SH plus i bought a couple points +5.5. I think it will be close as Gonzaga was almost watching this tourney from home. St. Mary's had beaten them twice because of guard play and this is where I think SH will win the game. I am hoping for a high scoring game, many games will go under as we have already seen in the 4 play in games. 
    We will see I love March madness. GL to all 
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    Great write up one of the best i have seen on covers. I am on SH plus i bought a couple points +5.5. I think it will be close as Gonzaga was almost watching this tourney from home. St. Mary's had beaten them twice because of guard play and this is where I think SH will win the game. I am hoping for a high scoring game, many games will go under as we have already seen in the 4 play in games. 
    We will see I love March madness. GL to all 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 11:11 AM ET #41

    Good luck Scal.  
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    Good luck Scal.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 11:12 AM ET #42

    GL
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    GL
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 11:20 AM ET #43

    Well, if I'm gonna follow you on Memphis to cover a large spread, I'm definitely gonna be on Gonzaga. Thanks for the write up Scal.
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    Well, if I'm gonna follow you on Memphis to cover a large spread, I'm definitely gonna be on Gonzaga. Thanks for the write up Scal.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 11:25 AM ET #44

    Many great points and very solid write up!

    BOL
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    Many great points and very solid write up!

    BOL
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 11:27 AM ET #45

    That was a really good read.  However, I won a TON of money off of Seton Hall this season and have to disagree with your statement that they haven't had success against a frontcourt as good as Gonzaga's.  Did you watch them succeed against Xavier's bigs?  
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    That was a really good read.  However, I won a TON of money off of Seton Hall this season and have to disagree with your statement that they haven't had success against a frontcourt as good as Gonzaga's.  Did you watch them succeed against Xavier's bigs?  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 11:39 AM ET #46

    There is a big chip on the shoulders of Seton Hall.  The Seton Hall team feels like they were once again snubbed by the committee... WInning the big east, and now you have to travel all the way to Denver to play Gonzaga???  A total disrespect...  There an extra motivational factor here for the pirates...  Although Gonzaga has been this sort of "cinderella" team in March, I don't think their the same team as previous years.  Yes, by Gonzaga being an 11 seed gives them "no added pressure" but I been following the pirates all season, and they somehow know how to elevate their game when it comes to the big stage.  ALso, I think the pirates back court matches up well against the zaggys guards.  If the pirates can speed up the tempo, press the zaggys guards, and try to get these big men for the zags in foul trouble, the Pirates have a realistic shot to move on. Just my 2 cents
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    There is a big chip on the shoulders of Seton Hall.  The Seton Hall team feels like they were once again snubbed by the committee... WInning the big east, and now you have to travel all the way to Denver to play Gonzaga???  A total disrespect...  There an extra motivational factor here for the pirates...  Although Gonzaga has been this sort of "cinderella" team in March, I don't think their the same team as previous years.  Yes, by Gonzaga being an 11 seed gives them "no added pressure" but I been following the pirates all season, and they somehow know how to elevate their game when it comes to the big stage.  ALso, I think the pirates back court matches up well against the zaggys guards.  If the pirates can speed up the tempo, press the zaggys guards, and try to get these big men for the zags in foul trouble, the Pirates have a realistic shot to move on. Just my 2 cents
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 11:45 AM ET #47

    I love the pick and the write up again   but this time I was ready with the extra coffee   keep the picks and write ups coming  and lets all make some $$$$$$$$$$
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    I love the pick and the write up again   but this time I was ready with the extra coffee   keep the picks and write ups coming  and lets all make some $$$$$$$$$$
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 11:50 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by rebel99:

    I love the pick and the write up again   but this time I was ready with the extra coffee   keep the picks and write ups coming  and lets all make some $$$$$$$$$$


    Agreed, we all in this together to make $$. good luck in tourney everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by rebel99:

    I love the pick and the write up again   but this time I was ready with the extra coffee   keep the picks and write ups coming  and lets all make some $$$$$$$$$$


    Agreed, we all in this together to make $$. good luck in tourney everyone
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2016 - 11:58 AM ET #49

    Great write up as always Scalabrine. Appreciate your insight! 
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    Great write up as always Scalabrine. Appreciate your insight! 
     
     
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     thank you for sharing
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     thank you for sharing
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