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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 5:41 PM ET #51

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    I’m not interested in anything tonight. The only game that really looks appealing is the Tribe/STJ game, but there is so many question marks going in on both sides that it’s just not a sound investment to take a stab at anything from my perspective. It looks as if Quinn McDowell is going to play. How much of a factor will he be? I have no clue. He hasn’t practiced nearly enough, if at all, so conditioning is going to play a part. He was on the court 80+% of the time last year and is a major factor both offensively and defensively. They are also without Rusthoven (key defensive player and offensive role player), and without Gaillard who would be the 2nd leading minute guy they have returning and another integral part of their defense.  As for STJ, I’ve been studying a bit of Dunlap, who is expected to man the bench for Lavin tonight, and the guy is pretty smart. The key thing with him throughout the years is his X and O approach to the game. Being an X and O type of a guy myself, I can appreciate what this guy brings. Lavin brings the intensity, this guy brings the smarts. He’s had this core for the better part of the offseason and practice, so he knows what he’s getting into tonight. Taking a step back and looking at everything I just mentioned, that’s quite a few question marks going into the first game of the season on both sides. But, as far as making a case for the game and what I think will happen. On the William & Mary side of things, they lose two key defensive players from a defense that was awful last year, and those spots will be filled by two more people who can take the outside shot unlike the two they’ll be missing. Tony Shaver coached teams shoot the 3ball just as much as any other team in the country (28th in 2009, 3rd in 2010, 10th last season). They are not afraid to shoot it. Now, you lose two guys who rarely shoot it, yet those guys were key in the offense from a ball reversal and role playing stance. You fill those two voids with your 6th and 7th men off the bench who can shoot the 3, and there is no question that they continue the trend. They live by the 3, they die by it. To give you an idea, if McDowell is in the starting lineup tonight, the starting five coming into the game tonight will have attempted over 550 three’s last year alone. Put the two guys in that are missing because of injury, and you’re looking at around 350-375. So from the Tribe perspective, they get worse on defense, and they’re probably going to attempt more three pointers than they do on average (which is insane to say). I tried to find a reason with the current lineup to see how they don’t continue to attempt more three’s and I just can’t. When you lose offensive role players and key players, you lose a bit of rhythm that you had developed and almost always settle for the three and I expect that to hold to form tonight. On the STJ side of things, Dunlap’s going to run and he would be dumb not to. And – he’s familiar with it. As an assistant with Arizona, he ran. As an assistant with Oregon, he ran. Last year, a great majority of the time out of conference, Lavin ran and did it fast. More importantly, when STJ played someone that liked to control the tempo or play a half court game, he didn’t let them. Lavin has always been pinpointed to totally do the reverse of what his players are accustomed to doing so that he can have an advantage in any given matchup, and I expect him and Dunlap to do that tonight. Clearly, they are young. You can’t bring young players in and slow the game down for them. You may try to an extent, but young players need experience before the game can be dumbed down for them. It’s obvious William & Mary has depth issues, so how does a coach combat that, you run. And when you are young, players will run more.  Granted, I could be reading way too much into the injuries and external crap going on, but that’s how I see the game. St. John’s should get up and down and control the tempo, and I don’t think William & Mary is going to be able to defend as well as it wants. On the flip side, William & Mary depends on the three ball, and gets more attempts and possessions b/c of the lineup issues and tempo. Sort of makes for a good case for the over if I think that’s the way the game plays out and think WM can knock down some shots, but I’m not touching it. Gun to head, probably the over, but again, it’s tough for me to make an over play this early in the season and it’s way to early to be putting a gun to my head.

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    Leans: 0-0


    Eh - Never too early for a Lean. Not investing, but will make it a lean for tracking purposes. Studied it a bit more and think the over's the way to go. Analysis above.

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    Leans: William & Mary/St. John's Over 136.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by nropp11:


    I’m not interested in anything tonight. The only game that really looks appealing is the Tribe/STJ game, but there is so many question marks going in on both sides that it’s just not a sound investment to take a stab at anything from my perspective. It looks as if Quinn McDowell is going to play. How much of a factor will he be? I have no clue. He hasn’t practiced nearly enough, if at all, so conditioning is going to play a part. He was on the court 80+% of the time last year and is a major factor both offensively and defensively. They are also without Rusthoven (key defensive player and offensive role player), and without Gaillard who would be the 2nd leading minute guy they have returning and another integral part of their defense.  As for STJ, I’ve been studying a bit of Dunlap, who is expected to man the bench for Lavin tonight, and the guy is pretty smart. The key thing with him throughout the years is his X and O approach to the game. Being an X and O type of a guy myself, I can appreciate what this guy brings. Lavin brings the intensity, this guy brings the smarts. He’s had this core for the better part of the offseason and practice, so he knows what he’s getting into tonight. Taking a step back and looking at everything I just mentioned, that’s quite a few question marks going into the first game of the season on both sides. But, as far as making a case for the game and what I think will happen. On the William & Mary side of things, they lose two key defensive players from a defense that was awful last year, and those spots will be filled by two more people who can take the outside shot unlike the two they’ll be missing. Tony Shaver coached teams shoot the 3ball just as much as any other team in the country (28th in 2009, 3rd in 2010, 10th last season). They are not afraid to shoot it. Now, you lose two guys who rarely shoot it, yet those guys were key in the offense from a ball reversal and role playing stance. You fill those two voids with your 6th and 7th men off the bench who can shoot the 3, and there is no question that they continue the trend. They live by the 3, they die by it. To give you an idea, if McDowell is in the starting lineup tonight, the starting five coming into the game tonight will have attempted over 550 three’s last year alone. Put the two guys in that are missing because of injury, and you’re looking at around 350-375. So from the Tribe perspective, they get worse on defense, and they’re probably going to attempt more three pointers than they do on average (which is insane to say). I tried to find a reason with the current lineup to see how they don’t continue to attempt more three’s and I just can’t. When you lose offensive role players and key players, you lose a bit of rhythm that you had developed and almost always settle for the three and I expect that to hold to form tonight. On the STJ side of things, Dunlap’s going to run and he would be dumb not to. And – he’s familiar with it. As an assistant with Arizona, he ran. As an assistant with Oregon, he ran. Last year, a great majority of the time out of conference, Lavin ran and did it fast. More importantly, when STJ played someone that liked to control the tempo or play a half court game, he didn’t let them. Lavin has always been pinpointed to totally do the reverse of what his players are accustomed to doing so that he can have an advantage in any given matchup, and I expect him and Dunlap to do that tonight. Clearly, they are young. You can’t bring young players in and slow the game down for them. You may try to an extent, but young players need experience before the game can be dumbed down for them. It’s obvious William & Mary has depth issues, so how does a coach combat that, you run. And when you are young, players will run more.  Granted, I could be reading way too much into the injuries and external crap going on, but that’s how I see the game. St. John’s should get up and down and control the tempo, and I don’t think William & Mary is going to be able to defend as well as it wants. On the flip side, William & Mary depends on the three ball, and gets more attempts and possessions b/c of the lineup issues and tempo. Sort of makes for a good case for the over if I think that’s the way the game plays out and think WM can knock down some shots, but I’m not touching it. Gun to head, probably the over, but again, it’s tough for me to make an over play this early in the season and it’s way to early to be putting a gun to my head.

    GL

    11/11

    0-0, +0.00
    Leans: 0-0


    Eh - Never too early for a Lean. Not investing, but will make it a lean for tracking purposes. Studied it a bit more and think the over's the way to go. Analysis above.

    Plays: None
    Leans: William & Mary/St. John's Over 136.5

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 5:43 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by gynecologist:

    when should we expect a play from you Mr.Ropp?

    Hoping for some value on Friday. Will probably have more leans than actual plays early on. Few spots I like Saturday/Sunday.

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    when should we expect a play from you Mr.Ropp?

    Hoping for some value on Friday. Will probably have more leans than actual plays early on. Few spots I like Saturday/Sunday.

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 6:14 PM ET #53

    Thank you for your hard work.
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 9:06 PM ET #54

    Nropp do you have an online book you use? if not do you recommend any?
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 10:41 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by winner2:

    Nropp do you have an online book you use? if not do you recommend any?

    No recommendations here. Plenty out there, just have to find what fits your style the most.
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    Nropp do you have an online book you use? if not do you recommend any?

    No recommendations here. Plenty out there, just have to find what fits your style the most.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 10:42 AM ET #56

    11/12 Saturday Projected's

    A few games missing, and those would be the games where teams are playing back-to-back, so i'm not even looking at those.

    +34 FORDHAM
    -34 SYRACUSE
    +13 IDAHO
    -13 LONG BEACH STATE
    +4 SAN JOSE STATE
    -4 CAL POLY SLO
    +4 NORTHERN IOWA
    -4 OLD DOMINION
    -7 BUTLER
    +7 EVANSVILLE
    +23 SOUTH ALABAMA
    -23 MISSISSIPPI STATE
    PK FLORIDA ATLANTIC
    PK PORTLAND
    +21 GEORGIA STATE
    -21 WASHINGTON
    -5 YOUNGSTOWN STATE
    +5 SAMFORD
    -10 NEW MEXICO STATE
    +10 NO. COLORADO

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    11/12 Saturday Projected's

    A few games missing, and those would be the games where teams are playing back-to-back, so i'm not even looking at those.

    +34 FORDHAM
    -34 SYRACUSE
    +13 IDAHO
    -13 LONG BEACH STATE
    +4 SAN JOSE STATE
    -4 CAL POLY SLO
    +4 NORTHERN IOWA
    -4 OLD DOMINION
    -7 BUTLER
    +7 EVANSVILLE
    +23 SOUTH ALABAMA
    -23 MISSISSIPPI STATE
    PK FLORIDA ATLANTIC
    PK PORTLAND
    +21 GEORGIA STATE
    -21 WASHINGTON
    -5 YOUNGSTOWN STATE
    +5 SAMFORD
    -10 NEW MEXICO STATE
    +10 NO. COLORADO

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 10:50 AM ET #57

    11/13 Sunday Projected's

    Again, the games missing this time will be teams playing their third game in three days. 

    +12 WISC GREEN BAY
    -12 DUQUESNE
    +15 CLEVELAND STATE
    -15 VANDERBILT
    +3 MIDDLE TENN ST
    -3 LOYOLA MARYMOUNT
    +9 CAL RIVERSIDE
    -9 UTEP
    +8 BOWLING GREEN
    -8 GEORGIA
    +15 BALL STATE
    -15 ARIZONA
    +16 NC WILMINGTON
    -16 MARYLAND
    +9 GEORGE WASHINGTON
    -9 CALIFORNIA
    +1 GEORGIA STATE
    -1 PORTLAND
    +16 FLORIDA ATLANTIC
    -16 WASHINGTON
    +21 RIDER
    -21 PITTSBURGH
    +17 CANISIUS
    -17 JAMES MADISON
    +15 TENNESSEE MARTIN
    -15 OHIO
    +24 JACKSONVILLE STATE
    -24 MARSHALL
    +20 TENN CHATTANOOGA
    -20 INDIANA
    +11 MOREHEAD STATE
    -11 NC STATE

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    11/13 Sunday Projected's

    Again, the games missing this time will be teams playing their third game in three days. 

    +12 WISC GREEN BAY
    -12 DUQUESNE
    +15 CLEVELAND STATE
    -15 VANDERBILT
    +3 MIDDLE TENN ST
    -3 LOYOLA MARYMOUNT
    +9 CAL RIVERSIDE
    -9 UTEP
    +8 BOWLING GREEN
    -8 GEORGIA
    +15 BALL STATE
    -15 ARIZONA
    +16 NC WILMINGTON
    -16 MARYLAND
    +9 GEORGE WASHINGTON
    -9 CALIFORNIA
    +1 GEORGIA STATE
    -1 PORTLAND
    +16 FLORIDA ATLANTIC
    -16 WASHINGTON
    +21 RIDER
    -21 PITTSBURGH
    +17 CANISIUS
    -17 JAMES MADISON
    +15 TENNESSEE MARTIN
    -15 OHIO
    +24 JACKSONVILLE STATE
    -24 MARSHALL
    +20 TENN CHATTANOOGA
    -20 INDIANA
    +11 MOREHEAD STATE
    -11 NC STATE

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 10:53 AM ET #58

     NEIL HOW WILL ILL STACK UP THIS YEAR IN THE CONFERENCE ? 
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 11:11 AM ET #59

    Hey NRopp,
    What are your thoughts on St. Peter's early in the season?
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    What are your thoughts on St. Peter's early in the season?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ac_bum:

     NEIL HOW WILL ILL STACK UP THIS YEAR IN THE CONFERENCE ? 

    Outlook is probably better for next year, and even then, they won't have a legit PG. Brought in Maniscalco from Bradley to lead the team this year and while many are high on him, I just haven't seen anything to warrant the praise. Just going to be an ugly year, mid-level B-10 at best probably. Have some decent depth down low, can't trust Weber to use them in the offense. Can't really trust Richardson and Paul on the court at the same time, but that's a story for another day. Depth is an issue b/c half the team is banged up at the moment. Recruiting class that came in is very talented, just a matter of how well they catch on and if they can defend. Offensively, they'll struggle immensely with no real go-to scorer, especially late in ballgames. Defense will keep them in a majority of their ballgames, while offense will go 8 minutes at a time without scoring. Big 10 Schedule sets them up nicely with a lot of key games at home, which doesn't really say much with the quality of the B10 this year. What once was a nice home-court advantage is lost, and they'll probably be dogged at home in conference a whopping four or five times, which probably hasn't been the case in years and years and years and years and years. That is, unless they were to pull a stunner or two on the road against a bigwig (OSU, Purdue, etc...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ac_bum:

     NEIL HOW WILL ILL STACK UP THIS YEAR IN THE CONFERENCE ? 

    Outlook is probably better for next year, and even then, they won't have a legit PG. Brought in Maniscalco from Bradley to lead the team this year and while many are high on him, I just haven't seen anything to warrant the praise. Just going to be an ugly year, mid-level B-10 at best probably. Have some decent depth down low, can't trust Weber to use them in the offense. Can't really trust Richardson and Paul on the court at the same time, but that's a story for another day. Depth is an issue b/c half the team is banged up at the moment. Recruiting class that came in is very talented, just a matter of how well they catch on and if they can defend. Offensively, they'll struggle immensely with no real go-to scorer, especially late in ballgames. Defense will keep them in a majority of their ballgames, while offense will go 8 minutes at a time without scoring. Big 10 Schedule sets them up nicely with a lot of key games at home, which doesn't really say much with the quality of the B10 this year. What once was a nice home-court advantage is lost, and they'll probably be dogged at home in conference a whopping four or five times, which probably hasn't been the case in years and years and years and years and years. That is, unless they were to pull a stunner or two on the road against a bigwig (OSU, Purdue, etc...).

    Looks ugly.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 11:31 AM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by KineProfessor:

    Hey NRopp,
    What are your thoughts on St. Peter's early in the season?

    I honestly have no idea. Looking them over in the offseason, my first initial thought was "wow, how is this team going to score?". Lost a ton, bring back very little even though they got a transfer from St. Joe's and the kid coming back from injury. Just looking at the lineup, I would expect quite a bit more outside shots than normal for a John Dunne coached ballclub, and that's probably not a good thing. Schedule wise, the only thing I have circled is the fact that they're on the road for all of December up to Christmas = struggles.

    Really interested in the first game with Buffalo. Buffalo lost a key part of their offense, and that offense requires a few reversals and quite a bit of movement before attempting a shot, so it wouldn't surprise me for this total to be in the 116-120 range. And that might be a bit steep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KineProfessor:

    Hey NRopp,
    What are your thoughts on St. Peter's early in the season?

    I honestly have no idea. Looking them over in the offseason, my first initial thought was "wow, how is this team going to score?". Lost a ton, bring back very little even though they got a transfer from St. Joe's and the kid coming back from injury. Just looking at the lineup, I would expect quite a bit more outside shots than normal for a John Dunne coached ballclub, and that's probably not a good thing. Schedule wise, the only thing I have circled is the fact that they're on the road for all of December up to Christmas = struggles.

    Really interested in the first game with Buffalo. Buffalo lost a key part of their offense, and that offense requires a few reversals and quite a bit of movement before attempting a shot, so it wouldn't surprise me for this total to be in the 116-120 range. And that might be a bit steep.

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    Open to any and all discussion on any game being played 11/1 through 11/13. Just ask.

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 11:37 AM ET #63

    I understand your reluctance to be involved in B2B. 

    One angle that I like in those situations is to try and find teams that really rely on jumpshooting, vs getting to the rim for their FGs. They might be hot in game 1, or even game 2, but eventually they tire and those shots fall short.  Teams that get to the line on Sunday are worth a look.
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    I understand your reluctance to be involved in B2B. 

    One angle that I like in those situations is to try and find teams that really rely on jumpshooting, vs getting to the rim for their FGs. They might be hot in game 1, or even game 2, but eventually they tire and those shots fall short.  Teams that get to the line on Sunday are worth a look.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 11:40 AM ET #64

    Any thoughts on SDSU for the early season?
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 11:40 AM ET #65

    NRopp, great stuff as always.

    Nov. 12th, Florida Atlantic @ Portland?

    Nov 13th, UL-Lafayette @ San Francisco?

    I love betting both the Sun Belt and WCC, and would love to get your insight on these 2 matchups.

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    NRopp, great stuff as always.

    Nov. 12th, Florida Atlantic @ Portland?

    Nov 13th, UL-Lafayette @ San Francisco?

    I love betting both the Sun Belt and WCC, and would love to get your insight on these 2 matchups.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 12:01 PM ET #66

    What do you think of Akron if they can get a decent number maybe nine im estimating  against mississippi st.

    Also Duquesne vs Zona, after seeing zona I believe they are overrated.  I believe it comes down to how duquesne can shoot the ball and force Zona into turnovers.  Duquesne's half court offense is inconsistent so they will need to force turnovers ans keep zona out of the paint. Looking forward to your opinion, thanks ahead of time

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    What do you think of Akron if they can get a decent number maybe nine im estimating  against mississippi st.

    Also Duquesne vs Zona, after seeing zona I believe they are overrated.  I believe it comes down to how duquesne can shoot the ball and force Zona into turnovers.  Duquesne's half court offense is inconsistent so they will need to force turnovers ans keep zona out of the paint. Looking forward to your opinion, thanks ahead of time

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 12:22 PM ET #67

    Duquesne/Zona total has to open north of 150...The Dukes press is as frenetic as any in the country and the already-bad interior defense lost one of the A-10's best shot blockers (Damian Saunders).

     

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    Duquesne/Zona total has to open north of 150...The Dukes press is as frenetic as any in the country and the already-bad interior defense lost one of the A-10's best shot blockers (Damian Saunders).

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BandosWB:

    I understand your reluctance to be involved in B2B. 

    One angle that I like in those situations is to try and find teams that really rely on jumpshooting, vs getting to the rim for their FGs. They might be hot in game 1, or even game 2, but eventually they tire and those shots fall short.  Teams that get to the line on Sunday are worth a look.

    Yah, it's one of those dumb things that I probably overlook. Did some analysis a few years back on teams efficiencies on day 2 and 3 of the back to back and didn't really find much in terms of team A or B covering the spread, but did find that efficiencies and tendencies dropped drastically, especially when playing in a tournament setting. I will take a look at the totals, just best for me to stay away from the game. Sorta like poker. When I go in, i wanna make sure I go in with the best hand. Just an opinion I'm going to try and stick to. There will be instances when I break off and go in with 7/2 offsuit, LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by BandosWB:

    I understand your reluctance to be involved in B2B. 

    One angle that I like in those situations is to try and find teams that really rely on jumpshooting, vs getting to the rim for their FGs. They might be hot in game 1, or even game 2, but eventually they tire and those shots fall short.  Teams that get to the line on Sunday are worth a look.

    Yah, it's one of those dumb things that I probably overlook. Did some analysis a few years back on teams efficiencies on day 2 and 3 of the back to back and didn't really find much in terms of team A or B covering the spread, but did find that efficiencies and tendencies dropped drastically, especially when playing in a tournament setting. I will take a look at the totals, just best for me to stay away from the game. Sorta like poker. When I go in, i wanna make sure I go in with the best hand. Just an opinion I'm going to try and stick to. There will be instances when I break off and go in with 7/2 offsuit, LOL
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

    Duquesne/Zona total has to open north of 150...The Dukes press is as frenetic as any in the country and the already-bad interior defense lost one of the A-10's best shot blockers (Damian Saunders).

     

     

    That is true they also lost all around player Bill Clark who was possibly their best shooter and leader.  Even with the departures they look to be bigger than last year but their 7 ft transfer will not be eligible for zona game.  They do have some athletic big men this year that will block shots. Scoring will not be as likely from the bigs this year though

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    Duquesne/Zona total has to open north of 150...The Dukes press is as frenetic as any in the country and the already-bad interior defense lost one of the A-10's best shot blockers (Damian Saunders).

     

     

    That is true they also lost all around player Bill Clark who was possibly their best shooter and leader.  Even with the departures they look to be bigger than last year but their 7 ft transfer will not be eligible for zona game.  They do have some athletic big men this year that will block shots. Scoring will not be as likely from the bigs this year though

     
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    isee u have n.colorado +10 at home vs a very very inexperienced  n.mexico st team who loses all their key players. N.colorado still has proctor who has LOTS of big game experience and probaly the best player in this game. I would suggest n.colo for a HUGE play possibly a ml is the line does end up around there?

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    isee u have n.colorado +10 at home vs a very very inexperienced  n.mexico st team who loses all their key players. N.colorado still has proctor who has LOTS of big game experience and probaly the best player in this game. I would suggest n.colo for a HUGE play possibly a ml is the line does end up around there?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 12:45 PM ET #71

    also wash -21 vs georgia st in the dawg poundd. I have georgia st as a last 5 team in nation.
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    also wash -21 vs georgia st in the dawg poundd. I have georgia st as a last 5 team in nation.
     
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    Ball State +15? I think that's too many points. This is a team that played very well in Vancouver this August. The most important thing about that trip is that they were able to start practice this fall in high gear. Thost 15 practices they got was essentially their fall camp, so that when they started practice a couple weeks ago it was simply a continuation from this summer. They only lost Perry from a team that played fairly well last year. I think this is a good team from the West, a division that has been very bad the last few years. The freshmen, Adeoye and Chapman (rex's boy) were able to get up to speed very quickly. Adeoye is expected to contribute very early on. With the loss of Koch and Robinson (both expected back after the first of the year) Chapman should get some early PT too. Scaife hasn't missed a beat since this summer where he really shot very well. Berry didn't play well this summer but had a great game last night, leading the team with 22 points. Kaminecki has really bulked up from all accounts. Really from what I've read the whole team has bulked up aside from JJ who just wasn't ever able to gain any weight. JJ and Davis are both seniors. When your PG and C are both seniors, there is a certain maturity that a team will have as both those positions are real leadership positions. Chris Bond will be the most athletic player on the court in pretty much every game they play. Bonzi has said that if he could ever develop a shot, that Bond reminds him of himself more than any other play he has seen in a long time. He can finish around the basket on fast breaks which, by the way, Coach Taylor has said they are going to run a lot more this year.  He's been saying it every year, but finally they are deep enough that they can run and substitute without losing a beat. This is a team that went to OT against SJ last year in Alaska. They are used by now to traveling out West (Alaska, Vancouver, and now Arizona). Expectations are high in Muncie. They really think this is a tournament team.

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    Ball State +15? I think that's too many points. This is a team that played very well in Vancouver this August. The most important thing about that trip is that they were able to start practice this fall in high gear. Thost 15 practices they got was essentially their fall camp, so that when they started practice a couple weeks ago it was simply a continuation from this summer. They only lost Perry from a team that played fairly well last year. I think this is a good team from the West, a division that has been very bad the last few years. The freshmen, Adeoye and Chapman (rex's boy) were able to get up to speed very quickly. Adeoye is expected to contribute very early on. With the loss of Koch and Robinson (both expected back after the first of the year) Chapman should get some early PT too. Scaife hasn't missed a beat since this summer where he really shot very well. Berry didn't play well this summer but had a great game last night, leading the team with 22 points. Kaminecki has really bulked up from all accounts. Really from what I've read the whole team has bulked up aside from JJ who just wasn't ever able to gain any weight. JJ and Davis are both seniors. When your PG and C are both seniors, there is a certain maturity that a team will have as both those positions are real leadership positions. Chris Bond will be the most athletic player on the court in pretty much every game they play. Bonzi has said that if he could ever develop a shot, that Bond reminds him of himself more than any other play he has seen in a long time. He can finish around the basket on fast breaks which, by the way, Coach Taylor has said they are going to run a lot more this year.  He's been saying it every year, but finally they are deep enough that they can run and substitute without losing a beat. This is a team that went to OT against SJ last year in Alaska. They are used by now to traveling out West (Alaska, Vancouver, and now Arizona). Expectations are high in Muncie. They really think this is a tournament team.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 1:21 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by vnguyen1904:

    Any thoughts on SDSU for the early season?

    They got some nice depth at the guard spot, but the interior presence is full of question marks due in large part to losing a recruit to Kansas. I'm avoiding or fading until November. Had this puppy circled a month ago:

    Friday: Game
    Saturday: Game
    Sunday: Game
    Monday: Fly to Baylor
    Tuesday: Game at Baylor
    Wednesday: Travel Home
    Thursday: Game against USC
    Friday: Day off? 
    Saturday: Game against Long Beach State

    That's 6 games in 9 days. Then they go to Arizona. And, per NCAA rules, one of those days in the first week will be a day off. Which team won't they practice or prepare for? Wish I knew. Really interested in the game with Long Beach State at the tail end of that start, where they'll be coming off a defensive grider against USC. If they're flat, I think that's the game we get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnguyen1904:

    Any thoughts on SDSU for the early season?

    They got some nice depth at the guard spot, but the interior presence is full of question marks due in large part to losing a recruit to Kansas. I'm avoiding or fading until November. Had this puppy circled a month ago:

    Friday: Game
    Saturday: Game
    Sunday: Game
    Monday: Fly to Baylor
    Tuesday: Game at Baylor
    Wednesday: Travel Home
    Thursday: Game against USC
    Friday: Day off? 
    Saturday: Game against Long Beach State

    That's 6 games in 9 days. Then they go to Arizona. And, per NCAA rules, one of those days in the first week will be a day off. Which team won't they practice or prepare for? Wish I knew. Really interested in the game with Long Beach State at the tail end of that start, where they'll be coming off a defensive grider against USC. If they're flat, I think that's the game we get it.

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    ^should say avoiding or fading until December, not November.
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    Nropp, big fan here. You earned my trust with your UC Davis - Sac State pick early last year. 

    As a refresher for all of us, can you do a short summary on your method and philosophy of capping? You've said many times that you watch tons of games. What are your three tops stats you look at when studying teams (FT%, asst/TO ration, # of possessions?)

    Thanks and best of luck.
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    Nropp, big fan here. You earned my trust with your UC Davis - Sac State pick early last year. 

    As a refresher for all of us, can you do a short summary on your method and philosophy of capping? You've said many times that you watch tons of games. What are your three tops stats you look at when studying teams (FT%, asst/TO ration, # of possessions?)

    Thanks and best of luck.
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