There has been 4 games this season that PROV has been involved in where they have hit 168+ the very next game has not even sniffed this number. Being 4-0 for the under. CIN game makes number 5 does the trend follow?
What I mean by that is basing it off if the next game was lined at 168.
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There has been 4 games this season that PROV has been involved in where they have hit 168+ the very next game has not even sniffed this number. Being 4-0 for the under. CIN game makes number 5 does the trend follow?
What I mean by that is basing it off if the next game was lined at 168.
UNC... I'd be careful leaning on previous matchups.
This is a completely different type of ball that they play under Keno. No PC team was in the top 30 before in tempo ever... but under Keno, last year they were 10th.. and this year they are playing almost 3 possessions per game faster and they are in 5th in the country.
Last years game hit 194 points and there were a total of 82 possessions. If this game has 82 possessions, there is no way it doesn't go over.
Another thing that everyone should consider is that there is no quit with Keno. He fouls down the stretch as long as they are within 20 points. If they are down 12-15 with 4 minutes left, Keno will start fouling.
Some examples of this:
- @ ND earlier in the season... the score was 75-65 with 4:00 left. Keno decided to put on the full court press and foul if they didn't get the steal. In the last 4 minutes, there was a total of 31 points and the final ended up 93-78 (and thats with no fouling in the last 40 seconds).
- @ Cincy on Saturday night... down 75-65 with 4 minutes left.... Keno decides to start pressing and fouling just like the ND game... In the last 4 minutes, there were 40 POINTS and the final was 92-88...
So this is an incredibly risky play unless you think they are gonna be down by 20+
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Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty:
UNC... I'd be careful leaning on previous matchups.
This is a completely different type of ball that they play under Keno. No PC team was in the top 30 before in tempo ever... but under Keno, last year they were 10th.. and this year they are playing almost 3 possessions per game faster and they are in 5th in the country.
Last years game hit 194 points and there were a total of 82 possessions. If this game has 82 possessions, there is no way it doesn't go over.
Another thing that everyone should consider is that there is no quit with Keno. He fouls down the stretch as long as they are within 20 points. If they are down 12-15 with 4 minutes left, Keno will start fouling.
Some examples of this:
- @ ND earlier in the season... the score was 75-65 with 4:00 left. Keno decided to put on the full court press and foul if they didn't get the steal. In the last 4 minutes, there was a total of 31 points and the final ended up 93-78 (and thats with no fouling in the last 40 seconds).
- @ Cincy on Saturday night... down 75-65 with 4 minutes left.... Keno decides to start pressing and fouling just like the ND game... In the last 4 minutes, there were 40 POINTS and the final was 92-88...
So this is an incredibly risky play unless you think they are gonna be down by 20+
""There has been 4 games this season that PROV has been involved
in where they have hit 168+ the very next game has not even sniffed
this number. Being 4-0 for the under. CIN game makes number 5 does the
trend follow?""
You missed a couple of games...
- 106-64 against Vermont, and then the next game was 82-77 against BC, going over.
- 110-97 against George Washington and then the next game was 82-73 loss against Iona... which went over.
So the trend is actually 2-4 o/u
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""There has been 4 games this season that PROV has been involved
in where they have hit 168+ the very next game has not even sniffed
this number. Being 4-0 for the under. CIN game makes number 5 does the
trend follow?""
You missed a couple of games...
- 106-64 against Vermont, and then the next game was 82-77 against BC, going over.
- 110-97 against George Washington and then the next game was 82-73 loss against Iona... which went over.
""There has been 4 games this season that PROV has been involved in where they have hit 168+ the very next game has not even sniffed this number. Being 4-0 for the under. CIN game makes number 5 does the trend follow?""
You missed a couple of games...
- 106-64 against Vermont, and then the next game was 82-77 against BC, going over.
- 110-97 against George Washington and then the next game was 82-73 loss against Iona... which went over.
So the trend is actually 2-4 o/u
I had to clarify that in post #103 sorry for the confusion.
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Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty:
""There has been 4 games this season that PROV has been involved in where they have hit 168+ the very next game has not even sniffed this number. Being 4-0 for the under. CIN game makes number 5 does the trend follow?""
You missed a couple of games...
- 106-64 against Vermont, and then the next game was 82-77 against BC, going over.
- 110-97 against George Washington and then the next game was 82-73 loss against Iona... which went over.
So the trend is actually 2-4 o/u
I had to clarify that in post #103 sorry for the confusion.
Laverty, are you making a case for the over or are you just saying you think it should be a no-play?
Its a no play for me.
Staying away because I think it could be a blowout and if Syracuse is up 20+ then itll probably stay under. After that Marquette road game, I can't really trust them on the road so i'd say there's a 50/50 chance they get blown out.
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Quote Originally Posted by Gfunkera86:
Laverty, are you making a case for the over or are you just saying you think it should be a no-play?
Its a no play for me.
Staying away because I think it could be a blowout and if Syracuse is up 20+ then itll probably stay under. After that Marquette road game, I can't really trust them on the road so i'd say there's a 50/50 chance they get blown out.
Oddsbuster you are one of the most square cappers on this site. I don't wanna be an asshole, but it's true. "They beat them last time, I see them doing it again" and "The last 10 meetings have gone under and I don't see that changing tonight!" is all I hear from your threads.
Sorry, it's the turrets speaking.
yeah Toledo was a real square play today
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Quote Originally Posted by slamspurs:
Oddsbuster you are one of the most square cappers on this site. I don't wanna be an asshole, but it's true. "They beat them last time, I see them doing it again" and "The last 10 meetings have gone under and I don't see that changing tonight!" is all I hear from your threads.
Im not really a big fan of totals as most of you know but I have some strong trends on this one that make this really easy for me to bet.
As for totals being this high it comes down to one team not showing up offensively. A couple 2 min droughts here and there then this type of number is extremely hard to hit. There will probably be a ton of possessions in this one and teams getting to the line but these 2 teams are shit from the stripe. PROV is not a great team either FG% wise not to mention only one team has put 80+ up on CUSE this season. So it appears Boehiem has the boys playing really well inside and outside defensively.
There has been 6 games this season that PROV has been involved in where they have hit 168+ the very next game has not even sniffed this number. Being 6-0 for the under. CIN game makes number 7 does the trend follow? What I mean by that is basing it off if the next game was lined at 168.
In the last 11 meetings it has gone over this number once and both teams made like 24 threes and shot like 60% from the field. I will take my chances everyday of the week that these teams cant do it again.
Totals in the 160's this season are 12-5 favoring the under.
If the oddsmakers move the line up I may only add more...
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CORRECTION
PROV/CUSE U 169 -120 (10U)
Im not really a big fan of totals as most of you know but I have some strong trends on this one that make this really easy for me to bet.
As for totals being this high it comes down to one team not showing up offensively. A couple 2 min droughts here and there then this type of number is extremely hard to hit. There will probably be a ton of possessions in this one and teams getting to the line but these 2 teams are shit from the stripe. PROV is not a great team either FG% wise not to mention only one team has put 80+ up on CUSE this season. So it appears Boehiem has the boys playing really well inside and outside defensively.
There has been 6 games this season that PROV has been involved in where they have hit 168+ the very next game has not even sniffed this number. Being 6-0 for the under. CIN game makes number 7 does the trend follow? What I mean by that is basing it off if the next game was lined at 168.
In the last 11 meetings it has gone over this number once and both teams made like 24 threes and shot like 60% from the field. I will take my chances everyday of the week that these teams cant do it again.
Totals in the 160's this season are 12-5 favoring the under.
If the oddsmakers move the line up I may only add more...
Ahhh... I think thats more to do with the teams they played after those games and their tempos:
The tempos of the 6 teams they played after 168 totals were...
- BC (260th) - Brown (207th) - Iona (242nd) - St. Johns (210th) - Depaul (334th) - UConn (89th)
I don't know... its a good trend, but it might more have to do with the circumstance.
I feel like you got me playing with fire tonight thanks for popping in buddy I really do appreciate it. Maybe I can get lucky and see a 58 point first half.
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Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty:
Ahhh... I think thats more to do with the teams they played after those games and their tempos:
The tempos of the 6 teams they played after 168 totals were...
- BC (260th) - Brown (207th) - Iona (242nd) - St. Johns (210th) - Depaul (334th) - UConn (89th)
I don't know... its a good trend, but it might more have to do with the circumstance.
I feel like you got me playing with fire tonight thanks for popping in buddy I really do appreciate it. Maybe I can get lucky and see a 58 point first half.
I feel like you got me playing with fire tonight thanks for popping in buddy I really do appreciate it. Maybe I can get lucky and see a 58 point first half.
lol.. good luck tonight... but I do think its more likely that you'll see a 58 point first half by Syracuse then see a total of 58 1st half points...
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Quote Originally Posted by UNCforever:
I feel like you got me playing with fire tonight thanks for popping in buddy I really do appreciate it. Maybe I can get lucky and see a 58 point first half.
lol.. good luck tonight... but I do think its more likely that you'll see a 58 point first half by Syracuse then see a total of 58 1st half points...
Have you seen Providence play at all this year, UNC? You'll be impressed with just how bad that defense is. Rautins is gonna completely light up that weak zone.
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Have you seen Providence play at all this year, UNC? You'll be impressed with just how bad that defense is. Rautins is gonna completely light up that weak zone.
Have you seen Providence play at all this year, UNC? You'll be impressed with just how bad that defense is. Rautins is gonna completely light up that weak zone.
I watched the LOU, MARQ, and UCONN games they were in.
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Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty:
Have you seen Providence play at all this year, UNC? You'll be impressed with just how bad that defense is. Rautins is gonna completely light up that weak zone.
I watched the LOU, MARQ, and UCONN games they were in.
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