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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 6:59 PM ET #176

    jw11... I have an easy fix to your fav plays...friend and PM..


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    jw11... I have an easy fix to your fav plays...friend and PM..


     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 7:02 PM ET #177

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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 7:14 PM ET #178

    NC GREEN wins by 19 !!! (catching 6.5)

    another....puppie wins straight up.

    wtf

    These are the games remaining...and I gotta get to the racetrack...

    #641 Santa Clara +

    #657 San Fran +

    # 663 Irvine +

    GL2us

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    NC GREEN wins by 19 !!! (catching 6.5)

    another....puppie wins straight up.

    wtf

    These are the games remaining...and I gotta get to the racetrack...

    #641 Santa Clara +

    #657 San Fran +

    # 663 Irvine +

    GL2us

    jw11

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 7:17 PM ET #179

    Quote Originally Posted by Marketmaker:

    I myself have used similar strategies as this one....but you gotta be careful of reverse line movement which creates the trap you're referring to.

    Looking at ArkSt v ArkLR which opened at -4.5 now down to -3, when all consensus picks from the public favor ArkLR around 60%.....which would make common sense for those favoring ArkLR to even grow with a smaller line right?? The total jumped from 134 to 143 and line dropped 1.5 points....which makes me believe a lot of heavy smart $ came in on the over and ArkST late in the day, otherwise why would Vegas move the line against the majority? 

    I say go against the book and take ArkSt +3. 

    Still trying to understand your logic......

    You took UNC-Green correctly +7 because the line moved the correct way....65% of consensus picks were on Samford so the line should have moved up, and like usual, the public was wrong and UNC-Green won outright. 

    Now the Ark LR line moves the opposite way it should and you're playing them...

    ????? Please help me out and something I may be missing....

    MM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marketmaker:

    I myself have used similar strategies as this one....but you gotta be careful of reverse line movement which creates the trap you're referring to.

    Looking at ArkSt v ArkLR which opened at -4.5 now down to -3, when all consensus picks from the public favor ArkLR around 60%.....which would make common sense for those favoring ArkLR to even grow with a smaller line right?? The total jumped from 134 to 143 and line dropped 1.5 points....which makes me believe a lot of heavy smart $ came in on the over and ArkST late in the day, otherwise why would Vegas move the line against the majority? 

    I say go against the book and take ArkSt +3. 

    Still trying to understand your logic......

    You took UNC-Green correctly +7 because the line moved the correct way....65% of consensus picks were on Samford so the line should have moved up, and like usual, the public was wrong and UNC-Green won outright. 

    Now the Ark LR line moves the opposite way it should and you're playing them...

    ????? Please help me out and something I may be missing....

    MM

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 7:25 PM ET #180

    Quote Originally Posted by Marketmaker:

    Still trying to understand your logic......

    You took UNC-Green correctly +7 because the line moved the correct way....65% of consensus picks were on Samford so the line should have moved up, and like usual, the public was wrong and UNC-Green won outright. 

    Now the Ark LR line moves the opposite way it should and you're playing them...

    ????? Please help me out and something I may be missing....

    MM

    jw11's system does not care what side the public is on, but he did say dogs cover more than favorites in this system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marketmaker:

    Still trying to understand your logic......

    You took UNC-Green correctly +7 because the line moved the correct way....65% of consensus picks were on Samford so the line should have moved up, and like usual, the public was wrong and UNC-Green won outright. 

    Now the Ark LR line moves the opposite way it should and you're playing them...

    ????? Please help me out and something I may be missing....

    MM

    jw11's system does not care what side the public is on, but he did say dogs cover more than favorites in this system.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 7:30 PM ET #181

    Last year in this game played in LR, UALR hit a half-court to win and I don't think they ever had the lead the whole game. This one has been circled by ASU and could be some emotional edge. Look for coach John Brady to have the team ready for this one.
    ASU ML play.
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    Last year in this game played in LR, UALR hit a half-court to win and I don't think they ever had the lead the whole game. This one has been circled by ASU and could be some emotional edge. Look for coach John Brady to have the team ready for this one.
    ASU ML play.
    GLTA
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 7:45 PM ET #182

    Quote Originally Posted by jw11:

    I think I'll stay away from

    THE SUMMIT league

    and

    THE IVY league Will.

    gotta draw the line somewhere or I'll be playin High School soon.

    LOL.

    But by all means...if ya feel it....

    GL

    BTW ...I appreciate the post

    jw11


    you've made a good point.  frankly, i was just trying to get a feel for your system and hoped that you would let me know if i was on the wrong  track or not.  appreciate you sharing with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jw11:

    I think I'll stay away from

    THE SUMMIT league

    and

    THE IVY league Will.

    gotta draw the line somewhere or I'll be playin High School soon.

    LOL.

    But by all means...if ya feel it....

    GL

    BTW ...I appreciate the post

    jw11


    you've made a good point.  frankly, i was just trying to get a feel for your system and hoped that you would let me know if i was on the wrong  track or not.  appreciate you sharing with us.

    will 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 7:59 PM ET #183

    will never follow again?
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    will never follow again?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 8:00 PM ET #184

    sorry wrong thread your doing a good job!
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    sorry wrong thread your doing a good job!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 10:56 PM ET #185

    Did not play but Deleware was a loser today .. Late movement .. J Mad - 3 to - 4 1/2.. Have to bring in SF ..

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    Did not play but Deleware was a loser today .. Late movement .. J Mad - 3 to - 4 1/2.. Have to bring in SF ..

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:00 PM ET #186

    Favorites look like they should be a no play .. Not great today .. I didn't play any myself , but you throw out thise favorites and system did well today .
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    Favorites look like they should be a no play .. Not great today .. I didn't play any myself , but you throw out thise favorites and system did well today .
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:08 PM ET #187

    San Jose State from -3 go -1.5 , San Jose 46-32 ht nice work man
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    San Jose State from -3 go -1.5 , San Jose 46-32 ht nice work man
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:26 PM ET #188

    Overall, the system is off to a great start, but San Fran not looking to good thus far tonight.  Still time though and you obviously can't win them all.

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    Overall, the system is off to a great start, but San Fran not looking to good thus far tonight.  Still time though and you obviously can't win them all.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 2:11 AM ET #189

    Quote Originally Posted by Marketmaker:

    Still trying to understand your logic......

    You took UNC-Green correctly +7 because the line moved the correct way....65% of consensus picks were on Samford so the line should have moved up, and like usual, the public was wrong and UNC-Green won outright. 

    Now the Ark LR line moves the opposite way it should and you're playing them...

    ????? Please help me out and something I may be missing....

    MM

    This system has NOTHING to do with consensus Marketplace.

    Nothing at all.

    You can go back to the first page of the thread...it's self explanatory.

    GL2u

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marketmaker:

    Still trying to understand your logic......

    You took UNC-Green correctly +7 because the line moved the correct way....65% of consensus picks were on Samford so the line should have moved up, and like usual, the public was wrong and UNC-Green won outright. 

    Now the Ark LR line moves the opposite way it should and you're playing them...

    ????? Please help me out and something I may be missing....

    MM

    This system has NOTHING to do with consensus Marketplace.

    Nothing at all.

    You can go back to the first page of the thread...it's self explanatory.

    GL2u

    jw11

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 2:14 AM ET #190

    Quote Originally Posted by willb3rd:


    you've made a good point.  frankly, i was just trying to get a feel for your system and hoped that you would let me know if i was on the wrong  track or not.  appreciate you sharing with us.

    will 

    you WOULD HAVE had the correct side to the system Will.

    jw11

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    Quote Originally Posted by willb3rd:


    you've made a good point.  frankly, i was just trying to get a feel for your system and hoped that you would let me know if i was on the wrong  track or not.  appreciate you sharing with us.

    will 

    you WOULD HAVE had the correct side to the system Will.

    jw11

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 2:37 AM ET #191

    The system gives me a 4-3 day.

    .....made a few bucks.

    3 of the 4 wins were puppies that WON OUTRIGHT...so that seems to be the best feature of this system as 80%+ of our winners so far would have also been M/L wins.

    Do the math on that.

     

    FYI...the 1st Half plays were also 4-3.

    Louisville lost the 1st Half...but covered game...

    Charleston won 1st Half.....but lost game.

    So if you played 1st halfs AND full games you went 8-6

    Both favorites lost....so my fear of playing the fav's continues...and they just might get shitcanned in the new-improved system.

    todays recap...

    4 wins...

    LOUISVILLE +5 .........won the game outright (by 1 in 2OT)

    NC GREENS +6.5........won the game outright (by 19)

    SANTA CLARA +2.......won the game outright (by 7)

    CAL IRVINE +4............lost game by 1pt

    3 losses...

    CHARLESTON -2..........lost by 11

    ARK LIL ROCK -3.........lost by 11

    SAN FRAN +1.5...........lost by 6

    Thanks much for all the support as we stay patient and learn together !!!

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    The system gives me a 4-3 day.

    .....made a few bucks.

    3 of the 4 wins were puppies that WON OUTRIGHT...so that seems to be the best feature of this system as 80%+ of our winners so far would have also been M/L wins.

    Do the math on that.

     

    FYI...the 1st Half plays were also 4-3.

    Louisville lost the 1st Half...but covered game...

    Charleston won 1st Half.....but lost game.

    So if you played 1st halfs AND full games you went 8-6

    Both favorites lost....so my fear of playing the fav's continues...and they just might get shitcanned in the new-improved system.

    todays recap...

    4 wins...

    LOUISVILLE +5 .........won the game outright (by 1 in 2OT)

    NC GREENS +6.5........won the game outright (by 19)

    SANTA CLARA +2.......won the game outright (by 7)

    CAL IRVINE +4............lost game by 1pt

    3 losses...

    CHARLESTON -2..........lost by 11

    ARK LIL ROCK -3.........lost by 11

    SAN FRAN +1.5...........lost by 6

    Thanks much for all the support as we stay patient and learn together !!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 3:08 AM ET #192

    System record updated....16-9

    13 of the 16 wins have an underdog winning outright.

    SUMMARY as of 01-29-11

    16 wins............

    TENN +5...................won the game outright

    ILLINI-3.5..................won by 10

    ARK LR +3.5..............won the game outright

    ST PETE pick............won

    ST BON +4................won the game outright

    FURMAN +6...............won the game outright

    RIDER +1.5................won the game outright

    RICHM +3..................won the game outright

    W.CAROLINA +3.5.....won the game outright by 24

    SAMFORD +2.5......,...won the game outright

    SAN FRAN +5.5..........won the game outright

    WRIGHT ST +4...........won the game outright

    LOUISVILLE +5 .........won the game outright by 1 in OT

    NC GREENS +6.5........won the game outright by 19

    SANTA CLARA +2.......won the game outright by 7

    CAL IRVINE +4............lost game by 1pt

    9 losses...................

    ELON +7...................lost by 8

    FORDH +6.................lost by 12 (had 2H lead)

    LOY MRMNT +1.5......lost by 2 

    BALL ST -1.5.............lost by 2

    E.CAR. +3..................lost by 8

    S.E MO.ST +2.5........ lost by 9

    CHARLESTON -2........lost by 11

    ARK LIL ROCK -3.......lost by 11

    SAN FRAN +1.5..........lost by 6

     

    I believe the 1H record would be 18-7...if it's not 18-7, it's 19-6

    .............................................................

    So...... I have some thinking to do before Monday.

    I will definitely tweek the system, but not  too much.

    .......................................................

    *** Check this out >>> I just noticed CAL IRVINE was the first system win (out of 16 wins) that covered for us BUT DIDN"T WIN THE GAME.

    That...is unreal. Our other 15 wins won outright.Shocking.

    If you are looking to build YOUR OWN SYSTEM...take a good look at the chart above .

    Print it out...and study it. Really.

    In the many years that I've been at this game, I've learned that you can make more money by studying charts like this than by studying player stats, team stats,concensus' plays,and trying to figure out who the sharpies are on.

    Let's face it ...the linemakers know their stuff. They know more than anyone.

    And....this is a fact...they play mind games with Joe Public by moving numbers in opposite directions to fool the public into following false line moves....and making it look like Mr Sharp is on this or that game.

    I've played the "consensus / line move" system before and it  works...sometimes.And sometimes it doesn't. If it always worked, then everyone would do it and Vegas would be broke.

    Is this system perfect ?

    No.

    No system is perfect. This system may be on a good 2 or 3 or 4 year run ....and turn to shit tomorrow.

    But...so far so good.

    That's all one can ask for.

    See you in the AM.

    jw11

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    System record updated....16-9

    13 of the 16 wins have an underdog winning outright.

    SUMMARY as of 01-29-11

    16 wins............

    TENN +5...................won the game outright

    ILLINI-3.5..................won by 10

    ARK LR +3.5..............won the game outright

    ST PETE pick............won

    ST BON +4................won the game outright

    FURMAN +6...............won the game outright

    RIDER +1.5................won the game outright

    RICHM +3..................won the game outright

    W.CAROLINA +3.5.....won the game outright by 24

    SAMFORD +2.5......,...won the game outright

    SAN FRAN +5.5..........won the game outright

    WRIGHT ST +4...........won the game outright

    LOUISVILLE +5 .........won the game outright by 1 in OT

    NC GREENS +6.5........won the game outright by 19

    SANTA CLARA +2.......won the game outright by 7

    CAL IRVINE +4............lost game by 1pt

    9 losses...................

    ELON +7...................lost by 8

    FORDH +6.................lost by 12 (had 2H lead)

    LOY MRMNT +1.5......lost by 2 

    BALL ST -1.5.............lost by 2

    E.CAR. +3..................lost by 8

    S.E MO.ST +2.5........ lost by 9

    CHARLESTON -2........lost by 11

    ARK LIL ROCK -3.......lost by 11

    SAN FRAN +1.5..........lost by 6

     

    I believe the 1H record would be 18-7...if it's not 18-7, it's 19-6

    .............................................................

    So...... I have some thinking to do before Monday.

    I will definitely tweek the system, but not  too much.

    .......................................................

    *** Check this out >>> I just noticed CAL IRVINE was the first system win (out of 16 wins) that covered for us BUT DIDN"T WIN THE GAME.

    That...is unreal. Our other 15 wins won outright.Shocking.

    If you are looking to build YOUR OWN SYSTEM...take a good look at the chart above .

    Print it out...and study it. Really.

    In the many years that I've been at this game, I've learned that you can make more money by studying charts like this than by studying player stats, team stats,concensus' plays,and trying to figure out who the sharpies are on.

    Let's face it ...the linemakers know their stuff. They know more than anyone.

    And....this is a fact...they play mind games with Joe Public by moving numbers in opposite directions to fool the public into following false line moves....and making it look like Mr Sharp is on this or that game.

    I've played the "consensus / line move" system before and it  works...sometimes.And sometimes it doesn't. If it always worked, then everyone would do it and Vegas would be broke.

    Is this system perfect ?

    No.

    No system is perfect. This system may be on a good 2 or 3 or 4 year run ....and turn to shit tomorrow.

    But...so far so good.

    That's all one can ask for.

    See you in the AM.

    jw11

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 7:29 AM ET #193

    thanks for the St Clara play chief. that finished off a nice parlay for me. turned a bad day into a great night.
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    thanks for the St Clara play chief. that finished off a nice parlay for me. turned a bad day into a great night.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 7:59 AM ET #194

    JW, I played your system.....dogs and 1st half only...started with NC Green and went 5-1  Thanks

    I added  W Virginia and S. Il...they should be plays right????line moved against them and line between pk-6

    Only loss was SF(1st half) buy 1/2 point

    Thanks, I;ll check it out again today

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    JW, I played your system.....dogs and 1st half only...started with NC Green and went 5-1  Thanks

    I added  W Virginia and S. Il...they should be plays right????line moved against them and line between pk-6

    Only loss was SF(1st half) buy 1/2 point

    Thanks, I;ll check it out again today

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 9:05 AM ET #195

    JW .Good work .. Tweaking is the key .. I'm laying off the favorites ..
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    JW .Good work .. Tweaking is the key .. I'm laying off the favorites ..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 12:23 PM ET #196

    Md just went from -3 to -1.5  but I believe the consensus amongst us followers of the system is that we would pass on the Favorites.  

    Only 8 games today that haven't already started, that opened at or under -6. So our opportunities will be slim to none,
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    Md just went from -3 to -1.5  but I believe the consensus amongst us followers of the system is that we would pass on the Favorites.  

    Only 8 games today that haven't already started, that opened at or under -6. So our opportunities will be slim to none,
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 12:38 PM ET #197

    Is Maryland a play today??...Moved point and a half on GT?....But we don't do fav's??
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    Is Maryland a play today??...Moved point and a half on GT?....But we don't do fav's??
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 12:38 PM ET #198

    UMASS went from -2 to +1.  I will play the ML.
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 12:49 PM ET #199

    UMASS is a play.

    Maryland is a play, but it is a favorite.

    If South Alabama goes to -4 Lafayette becomes a play.

    If Marist drops to -1, it becomes a play.
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    UMASS is a play.

    Maryland is a play, but it is a favorite.

    If South Alabama goes to -4 Lafayette becomes a play.

    If Marist drops to -1, it becomes a play.
     
     
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    marist already started. UMASS
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