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    MONDAYS SYSTEMS PLAYS and it kicked butt again on SUNDAY too

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    pcll4678
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:08 PM ET #26

    Had some free time.  Did I do NBA right?  Someone please doublecheck.

    NO +3
    Atl +1

    Orl +1
    Det -1 (coming off +5)

    Chi +2
    Mia -1

    Wash -5 (technically -2,Push,-2)  how do we handle this?
    Min +1 (coming off -6)

    Hou -2
    Den -1

    LAL +1
    Por -3

    Just trying to help.  Please don't take this as stepping on any toes.
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    Had some free time.  Did I do NBA right?  Someone please doublecheck.

    NO +3
    Atl +1

    Orl +1
    Det -1 (coming off +5)

    Chi +2
    Mia -1

    Wash -5 (technically -2,Push,-2)  how do we handle this?
    Min +1 (coming off -6)

    Hou -2
    Den -1

    LAL +1
    Por -3

    Just trying to help.  Please don't take this as stepping on any toes.
     
    djbrow
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:14 PM ET #27

    You are basing your system on teams due (and due not) to cover in a tournament setting
     
    Think about it, for one moment, why your "system" cannot work.
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    You are basing your system on teams due (and due not) to cover in a tournament setting
     
    Think about it, for one moment, why your "system" cannot work.
     
    Zeus10
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:20 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    You are basing your system on teams due (and due not) to cover in a tournament setting
     
    Think about it, for one moment, why your "system" cannot work.


    But it has been working. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    You are basing your system on teams due (and due not) to cover in a tournament setting
     
    Think about it, for one moment, why your "system" cannot work.


    But it has been working. LOL
     
    goallinebob
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:25 PM ET #29

    disco am capping all the games and a goodd couple are showing up
     
    depaul is 2-0
    cinn is 0-3,,,,,,,,,,,,,cinn is due to cover
     
    emu is 4-0,,,,,due to not cover
    cmu is 2-0,,,,,
     
    rutgers is 0-3......and due to cover
    nd is 1-1
     
    gt is 0-2,,,,could be due know below the #3
    st johns is 1-1
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    disco am capping all the games and a goodd couple are showing up
     
    depaul is 2-0
    cinn is 0-3,,,,,,,,,,,,,cinn is due to cover
     
    emu is 4-0,,,,,due to not cover
    cmu is 2-0,,,,,
     
    rutgers is 0-3......and due to cover
    nd is 1-1
     
    gt is 0-2,,,,could be due know below the #3
    st johns is 1-1
     
    Zeus10
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:28 PM ET #30

    Hey guys I love the system!! I have a question tho about which way the money goes. Yesterday Chatt vs Samford and Chatt was 0-6 ATS with Samford coming off a big win against Citadel and being 1-0 ATS to me it looked like Chatt was  a great pick and I did bet them but the system liked (or leaned) toward Samford because the money was going toward Chatt. Is there anytime that the system would make Chatt a lean even tho the public is putting money on Chatt??

    Also S. Alabam was a great play that me and goaline had and IMO it should have been a lean.
    You guys are doing a great job, thanks for the system!!
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    Hey guys I love the system!! I have a question tho about which way the money goes. Yesterday Chatt vs Samford and Chatt was 0-6 ATS with Samford coming off a big win against Citadel and being 1-0 ATS to me it looked like Chatt was  a great pick and I did bet them but the system liked (or leaned) toward Samford because the money was going toward Chatt. Is there anytime that the system would make Chatt a lean even tho the public is putting money on Chatt??

    Also S. Alabam was a great play that me and goaline had and IMO it should have been a lean.
    You guys are doing a great job, thanks for the system!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:29 PM ET #31

    dj but it is working and please understand we need to see where the betting trends are going as all this is PRELIMINARY,,,,,,,do you  think vegas is just going to give you the winners without the proper point spread,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,System is on track to show you why it has been so successful,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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    dj but it is working and please understand we need to see where the betting trends are going as all this is PRELIMINARY,,,,,,,do you  think vegas is just going to give you the winners without the proper point spread,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,System is on track to show you why it has been so successful,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
     
    Zeus10
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:30 PM ET #32

    Hey Goaline is the answer 7000230???
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    Hey Goaline is the answer 7000230???
     
    djbrow
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:39 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by goallinebob:

    dj but it is working and please understand we need to see where the betting trends are going as all this is PRELIMINARY,,,,,,,do you  think vegas is just going to give you the winners without the proper point spread,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,System is on track to show you why it has been so successful,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    The conference tournaments just began. You cannot base team trends in a tournament setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goallinebob:

    dj but it is working and please understand we need to see where the betting trends are going as all this is PRELIMINARY,,,,,,,do you  think vegas is just going to give you the winners without the proper point spread,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,System is on track to show you why it has been so successful,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    The conference tournaments just began. You cannot base team trends in a tournament setting.

     
    DiscoD69
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:40 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by goallinebob:

    Disco you are correct but i think most understand,, the early plays and leans are strictly the early thoughts,,prior to final decisions are made,,,,,,,,,but i still like to review how they fared for future reference,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    right, I agree 100%, tracking them is good, postem them is good...I'm just nervous about calling them 'system leans' because they are different from the actual system leans posted later

    one of the names has to be changed to seperate the two

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    Quote Originally Posted by goallinebob:

    Disco you are correct but i think most understand,, the early plays and leans are strictly the early thoughts,,prior to final decisions are made,,,,,,,,,but i still like to review how they fared for future reference,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    right, I agree 100%, tracking them is good, postem them is good...I'm just nervous about calling them 'system leans' because they are different from the actual system leans posted later

    one of the names has to be changed to seperate the two

     
    DiscoD69
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:41 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by pcll4678:

    Had some free time.  Did I do NBA right?  Someone please doublecheck.

    NO +3
    Atl +1

    Orl +1
    Det -1 (coming off +5)

    Chi +2
    Mia -1

    Wash -5 (technically -2,Push,-2)  how do we handle this?
    Min +1 (coming off -6)

    Hou -2
    Den -1

    LAL +1
    Por -3

    Just trying to help.  Please don't take this as stepping on any toes.

    if this is confirmed we can start NBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcll4678:

    Had some free time.  Did I do NBA right?  Someone please doublecheck.

    NO +3
    Atl +1

    Orl +1
    Det -1 (coming off +5)

    Chi +2
    Mia -1

    Wash -5 (technically -2,Push,-2)  how do we handle this?
    Min +1 (coming off -6)

    Hou -2
    Den -1

    LAL +1
    Por -3

    Just trying to help.  Please don't take this as stepping on any toes.

    if this is confirmed we can start NBA

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:46 PM ET #36

    your system is outstanding....with conference tournies semifinals and finals, you may need to take the reverse leans...just a thought...does that make sense Bob?
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    your system is outstanding....with conference tournies semifinals and finals, you may need to take the reverse leans...just a thought...does that make sense Bob?
     
    Zeus10
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:51 PM ET #37

    what do you call a push?? a - or + or something different?
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    what do you call a push?? a - or + or something different?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 1:53 PM ET #38

    So, err, no CBB plays as of yet? I read goalline's threads but have trouble making sense of them. It's just fading the longest streaks, I think, but there seems to be additional qualifiers? Can anyone explain this to me? Cheers guys
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    So, err, no CBB plays as of yet? I read goalline's threads but have trouble making sense of them. It's just fading the longest streaks, I think, but there seems to be additional qualifiers? Can anyone explain this to me? Cheers guys
     
    DiscoD69
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 2:04 PM ET #39

    bob I feel like a retard for not checking, but were any of yesterday's CBB system plays or (official) system leans conf. tourny games?
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    bob I feel like a retard for not checking, but were any of yesterday's CBB system plays or (official) system leans conf. tourny games?
     
    DiscoD69
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 2:07 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:

    bob I feel like a retard for not checking, but were any of yesterday's CBB system plays or (official) system leans conf. tourny games?

    I was just reading brow's comment...I'm pretty sure the system has been encorporating conf. tourny games so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:

    bob I feel like a retard for not checking, but were any of yesterday's CBB system plays or (official) system leans conf. tourny games?

    I was just reading brow's comment...I'm pretty sure the system has been encorporating conf. tourny games so far

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 2:09 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus10:

    what do you call a push?? a - or + or something different?

    I would consider it a non-cover, therefore a - , but that's just my opinion.  This is disco's, bob's and wanna's baby.. I'm just along for the ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus10:

    what do you call a push?? a - or + or something different?

    I would consider it a non-cover, therefore a - , but that's just my opinion.  This is disco's, bob's and wanna's baby.. I'm just along for the ride.
     
    Zeus10
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 2:14 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus10:

    Hey guys I love the system!! I have a question tho about which way the money goes. Yesterday Chatt vs Samford and Chatt was 0-6 ATS with Samford coming off a big win against Citadel and being 1-0 ATS to me it looked like Chatt was  a great pick and I did bet them but the system liked (or leaned) toward Samford because the money was going toward Chatt. Is there anytime that the system would make Chatt a lean even tho the public is putting money on Chatt??

    Also S. Alabam was a great play that me and goaline had and IMO it should have been a lean.
    You guys are doing a great job, thanks for the system!!


    Disco any comments to the above??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus10:

    Hey guys I love the system!! I have a question tho about which way the money goes. Yesterday Chatt vs Samford and Chatt was 0-6 ATS with Samford coming off a big win against Citadel and being 1-0 ATS to me it looked like Chatt was  a great pick and I did bet them but the system liked (or leaned) toward Samford because the money was going toward Chatt. Is there anytime that the system would make Chatt a lean even tho the public is putting money on Chatt??

    Also S. Alabam was a great play that me and goaline had and IMO it should have been a lean.
    You guys are doing a great job, thanks for the system!!


    Disco any comments to the above??
     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 2:18 PM ET #43

    Zeus, the Chatt. game is a bad example, as it was hard to determine where in fact the money was going...
     
    In retrospect I should have made it a system no play instead of a weak system lean.
     
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    Zeus, the Chatt. game is a bad example, as it was hard to determine where in fact the money was going...
     
    In retrospect I should have made it a system no play instead of a weak system lean.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 2:18 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by jlippens:

    So, err, no CBB plays as of yet? I read goalline's threads but have trouble making sense of them. It's just fading the longest streaks, I think, but there seems to be additional qualifiers? Can anyone explain this to me? Cheers guys

    LOL, yeah sometimes bob's posts are hard to read.  You're basically right, though.  Fade a streak of 3 (or more) consecutive covers or 3 (or more) consecutive ATS losses.  The idea is that Vegas doesn't like streaks and will adjust the lines accordingly.  DiscoD69 then evaluates the money trends and some other magic and decides if a play is OFFICIAL.

    Bob is also examining a system he calls cellar dwellers evaluating two teams who have similar streaks ATS in the past 2 or 3 games.  That's what all the 1-2, 2-1, 2-0 stats are about.  In these cases, Bob thinks the team with the worst ATS record on the year is the play.

    So far both systems have been pretty successful, especially in the NBA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlippens:

    So, err, no CBB plays as of yet? I read goalline's threads but have trouble making sense of them. It's just fading the longest streaks, I think, but there seems to be additional qualifiers? Can anyone explain this to me? Cheers guys

    LOL, yeah sometimes bob's posts are hard to read.  You're basically right, though.  Fade a streak of 3 (or more) consecutive covers or 3 (or more) consecutive ATS losses.  The idea is that Vegas doesn't like streaks and will adjust the lines accordingly.  DiscoD69 then evaluates the money trends and some other magic and decides if a play is OFFICIAL.

    Bob is also examining a system he calls cellar dwellers evaluating two teams who have similar streaks ATS in the past 2 or 3 games.  That's what all the 1-2, 2-1, 2-0 stats are about.  In these cases, Bob thinks the team with the worst ATS record on the year is the play.

    So far both systems have been pretty successful, especially in the NBA.
     
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    Thansk for the comment Disco.
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    Thansk for the comment Disco.
     
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    hey guys
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    hey guys
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcll4678:


    LOL, yeah sometimes bob's posts are hard to read.  You're basically right, though.  Fade a streak of 3 (or more) consecutive covers or 3 (or more) consecutive ATS losses.  The idea is that Vegas doesn't like streaks and will adjust the lines accordingly.  DiscoD69 then evaluates the money trends and some other magic and decides if a play is OFFICIAL.

    Bob is also examining a system he calls cellar dwellers evaluating two teams who have similar streaks ATS in the past 2 or 3 games.  That's what all the 1-2, 2-1, 2-0 stats are about.  In these cases, Bob thinks the team with the worst ATS record on the year is the play.

    So far both systems have been pretty successful, especially in the NBA.

    said very well

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcll4678:


    LOL, yeah sometimes bob's posts are hard to read.  You're basically right, though.  Fade a streak of 3 (or more) consecutive covers or 3 (or more) consecutive ATS losses.  The idea is that Vegas doesn't like streaks and will adjust the lines accordingly.  DiscoD69 then evaluates the money trends and some other magic and decides if a play is OFFICIAL.

    Bob is also examining a system he calls cellar dwellers evaluating two teams who have similar streaks ATS in the past 2 or 3 games.  That's what all the 1-2, 2-1, 2-0 stats are about.  In these cases, Bob thinks the team with the worst ATS record on the year is the play.

    So far both systems have been pretty successful, especially in the NBA.

    said very well

     
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    damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn you guys are GREAT as all you say is correct,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
     
    to answer a question,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pushes are not considered in most cases,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
     
    yes all system does is go against win and loss streaks,,,,,,of 3 or more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT not official till DISCO applys betting trends and poss line movements and then they are CONFIRMED SYSTEM PLAYS ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Disco from now on i will note EARLY SYSTEM LEANS prior to confirmation from you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hows that
     
    already capped all 3-10 and 3-11 matchups,,,,,,,,,,,,,got a lot of goodies ,,,,,,,,
     
    some of the plays were conf plays yest,, that i posted
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    damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn you guys are GREAT as all you say is correct,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
     
    to answer a question,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pushes are not considered in most cases,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
     
    yes all system does is go against win and loss streaks,,,,,,of 3 or more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT not official till DISCO applys betting trends and poss line movements and then they are CONFIRMED SYSTEM PLAYS ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Disco from now on i will note EARLY SYSTEM LEANS prior to confirmation from you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hows that
     
    already capped all 3-10 and 3-11 matchups,,,,,,,,,,,,,got a lot of goodies ,,,,,,,,
     
    some of the plays were conf plays yest,, that i posted
     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2009 - 2:50 PM ET #49

    Bob, great work, I have no idea what the system you and disco have come up with but you can get the sheets that tell you each teams current streaks and how they have fared in last 5.  I am sure that you know about these but it is a very easy way to find winning streaks.
     
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    Bob, great work, I have no idea what the system you and disco have come up with but you can get the sheets that tell you each teams current streaks and how they have fared in last 5.  I am sure that you know about these but it is a very easy way to find winning streaks.
     
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    i see no different approach to system in confrence as vegas will continue to balance out matchups,,,,,,,,,,,,as most w/l streaks are minimal anyway,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,since this is the first year it is open to discussion and will be a much better tool next year as we go foreward,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe Disco will have an opinion,,???
     
    wannawin,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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    i see no different approach to system in confrence as vegas will continue to balance out matchups,,,,,,,,,,,,as most w/l streaks are minimal anyway,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,since this is the first year it is open to discussion and will be a much better tool next year as we go foreward,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe Disco will have an opinion,,???
     
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