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    K'S NCAABB FINAL FOUR **LARGE PLAY**

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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2010 - 6:24 AM ET #51

    K,,,BAD,,,MIKE ,,,THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INSITE,,,,,,,REALY GOOD STUFF,,,AND WELL PUT,,,,,ME I LIKE  WV,,,,THE THING THAT SCARES ME IS,,,,,,,,,DUKE,S BIG MEN,,,,,,AND THATS A FACTOR YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT,,,,,,,,THEIRS NO RUNNING FROM THAT,,,,
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    K,,,BAD,,,MIKE ,,,THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INSITE,,,,,,,REALY GOOD STUFF,,,AND WELL PUT,,,,,ME I LIKE  WV,,,,THE THING THAT SCARES ME IS,,,,,,,,,DUKE,S BIG MEN,,,,,,AND THATS A FACTOR YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT,,,,,,,,THEIRS NO RUNNING FROM THAT,,,,
     
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2010 - 6:28 AM ET #52

    I WOULD LOVE TO SEE,,,,,BUTLER AND WEST V,,,,,,,,, DO THE LAST DANCE,,,,,,,,
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    I WOULD LOVE TO SEE,,,,,BUTLER AND WEST V,,,,,,,,, DO THE LAST DANCE,,,,,,,,
     
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2010 - 7:26 AM ET #53

      YEP! Tough one but I really feel BUTLER with their style and what a storyline! I like Butler there! But thats tomorrow! I  am 7-2 in last two nights and stepped up yesterday with 3-1 nik plays!  Got to keep on going! I am all over on Dayton and their overs? Really think Im staying with NC! Liking Denver and Dallas in pros also! BOL FRIEND! PG

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      YEP! Tough one but I really feel BUTLER with their style and what a storyline! I like Butler there! But thats tomorrow! I  am 7-2 in last two nights and stepped up yesterday with 3-1 nik plays!  Got to keep on going! I am all over on Dayton and their overs? Really think Im staying with NC! Liking Denver and Dallas in pros also! BOL FRIEND! PG

     
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2010 - 10:37 AM ET #54

    special K...what's happening bro?  I am on Duke, LARGE.  Both teams play solid Defense, and rebound well, the only difference I can find between the two is on the offensive end.  WVU has trouble knocking down shots, they win by rebounding, but Duke will battle with them there, unless Butler is on fire they will not be able to score with Dukes big three.

    I am also laying a large wager on the Uconn Dynasty.  Baylor has one player, Uconn has 6, Huskies by 30 very well may be the best bet of the weekend.  May even add to it, depending on the Duke outcome.

    GL 

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    special K...what's happening bro?  I am on Duke, LARGE.  Both teams play solid Defense, and rebound well, the only difference I can find between the two is on the offensive end.  WVU has trouble knocking down shots, they win by rebounding, but Duke will battle with them there, unless Butler is on fire they will not be able to score with Dukes big three.

    I am also laying a large wager on the Uconn Dynasty.  Baylor has one player, Uconn has 6, Huskies by 30 very well may be the best bet of the weekend.  May even add to it, depending on the Duke outcome.

    GL 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2010 - 1:46 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by creativemike:


    It's really hard to say anything bad about Butler. They've arguably played the toughest road in the tourney. They beat UTEP who is pretty wide open, Murray St who controls the tempo, then a 1 and 2 seed in Syracuse who presents a tricky zone and K State who should be athletically superior and plays man to man and is very physical. They beat every one of those teams as they did Xavier and Ohio St during the year. 

    MIchigan St is banged up, but it's really hard to go against them when Tom Izzo has a week to prepare for Butler. You can't go against him and the experience they have as this group was in the Final 4 last year.  I think Butler's heel is they are small and if you can get Howard in foul trouble, they are really thin. Izzo with a week to prepare is going to try and exploit that you have to think. 

    To me this is a no play, it's just to tough to call and I only play games where I think there is an edge. You could make a case for either team and i think the line is correct.  Gun to my head, I would take my chances with Izzo but just think there is a lot more value in  WVU over Duke.

    In a champ game though, I like WVU over Butler, I think WVU matches up great with them and would win that game going away, however if it's MSU vs WVU, Id take the points with MSU at anything 4.5 or above. Last year, Dayton handled WVU easily, knew what they were doing, and took away a lot of stuff. Their coach comes from Izzo's tree and they would play similar. Both teams rebound and defend the same way, switching ball screens and running a lot of motion. 
    loved the breakdown mike, i apologize to special k,  but was very impressed with your knowledge.  keep up the good work
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    Quote Originally Posted by creativemike:


    It's really hard to say anything bad about Butler. They've arguably played the toughest road in the tourney. They beat UTEP who is pretty wide open, Murray St who controls the tempo, then a 1 and 2 seed in Syracuse who presents a tricky zone and K State who should be athletically superior and plays man to man and is very physical. They beat every one of those teams as they did Xavier and Ohio St during the year. 

    MIchigan St is banged up, but it's really hard to go against them when Tom Izzo has a week to prepare for Butler. You can't go against him and the experience they have as this group was in the Final 4 last year.  I think Butler's heel is they are small and if you can get Howard in foul trouble, they are really thin. Izzo with a week to prepare is going to try and exploit that you have to think. 

    To me this is a no play, it's just to tough to call and I only play games where I think there is an edge. You could make a case for either team and i think the line is correct.  Gun to my head, I would take my chances with Izzo but just think there is a lot more value in  WVU over Duke.

    In a champ game though, I like WVU over Butler, I think WVU matches up great with them and would win that game going away, however if it's MSU vs WVU, Id take the points with MSU at anything 4.5 or above. Last year, Dayton handled WVU easily, knew what they were doing, and took away a lot of stuff. Their coach comes from Izzo's tree and they would play similar. Both teams rebound and defend the same way, switching ball screens and running a lot of motion. 
    loved the breakdown mike, i apologize to special k,  but was very impressed with your knowledge.  keep up the good work
     
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2010 - 5:51 PM ET #56

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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 1:16 AM ET #57

    UPDATED RECORD

    POST SEASON ATS: 58-38, +32.2 UNITS
    LARGE PLAYS (***): 7-2
    MEDIUM PLAYS (**): 15-9
    NCAA: 27-21
    NIT: 18-6
    CBI: 5-7
    CIT: 8-4
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    UPDATED RECORD

    POST SEASON ATS: 58-38, +32.2 UNITS
    LARGE PLAYS (***): 7-2
    MEDIUM PLAYS (**): 15-9
    NCAA: 27-21
    NIT: 18-6
    CBI: 5-7
    CIT: 8-4
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 1:18 AM ET #58

    FINAL CARD........

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    DUKE -1 (-140)*** (3 UNIT PLAY)
    MICHIGAN STATE (-120) +2*** (5 UNIT PLAY)
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    FINAL CARD........

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    DUKE -1 (-140)*** (3 UNIT PLAY)
    MICHIGAN STATE (-120) +2*** (5 UNIT PLAY)
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 1:32 AM ET #59

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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 1:37 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by YaMon:

    now at +3, keep on hitting PUKE gents.

    Lets take a peak @ Dukes year, 33-5 #1 in a very down ACC league. Sure they have the BIG 3, but Zoubek will get into foul trouble battling the boards with this WV squad. WV is quicker, more athletic and has more heart. I picked in my bracket PUKE to lose to Baylor, but my money was on 'em.   THREE SACKS  

    This game can be viewed as toss up, with WV - BIG East champs coming to battle. I watched the Big East torny as surely you did the same, and this team can turn it up whenever necassary blowing the game wide open - see KY, etc.. Coach K is a master mind but he wont have his hands on the rock!

    Remember BUTLER is the best player on either team.



    WV +3 is a bargain (extra day of rest too)


    Remember how many wide open looks from 3 Kentucky had?  I bet Duke doesnt shoot that poorly.


    Remember how many 2 point buckets West Virginia made in the first half of that game?

    Duke is first in the nation in 3 point percentage allowed.  TERRIBLE matchup for West Virginia.


    Duke is first in the nation in offensive efficiency and is playing against a team whos offense consists of throwing it off the backboard and hoping to get the offensive rebound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YaMon:

    now at +3, keep on hitting PUKE gents.

    Lets take a peak @ Dukes year, 33-5 #1 in a very down ACC league. Sure they have the BIG 3, but Zoubek will get into foul trouble battling the boards with this WV squad. WV is quicker, more athletic and has more heart. I picked in my bracket PUKE to lose to Baylor, but my money was on 'em.   THREE SACKS  

    This game can be viewed as toss up, with WV - BIG East champs coming to battle. I watched the Big East torny as surely you did the same, and this team can turn it up whenever necassary blowing the game wide open - see KY, etc.. Coach K is a master mind but he wont have his hands on the rock!

    Remember BUTLER is the best player on either team.



    WV +3 is a bargain (extra day of rest too)


    Remember how many wide open looks from 3 Kentucky had?  I bet Duke doesnt shoot that poorly.


    Remember how many 2 point buckets West Virginia made in the first half of that game?

    Duke is first in the nation in 3 point percentage allowed.  TERRIBLE matchup for West Virginia.


    Duke is first in the nation in offensive efficiency and is playing against a team whos offense consists of throwing it off the backboard and hoping to get the offensive rebound.

     
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    Best of Luck K
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    Not going to play any totals or first halves on the games but I lean under on WVU/Duke and over on Butler/Michigan State.

    I've read up on WVU/Duke every which way... I still stand by my pick.  At the end of the day, I think Duke's ability to finish on the offensive end will get them the win.  I also think the revenge factor will be a big part as will the satirical picture of Coach K published by the IndyStar the other day.

    I think Butler is a great story... would be amazing if they win this game and they got the chance to play for the nat'l championship in their own city.  But it almost feels like Indy has already begun coronating this team and I feel like there's a huge let down on the rise.  Gordon Hayward got a standing ovation in his math class for christ's sake... As nice as it is to play in Indy, I also think there's a whole lot of pressure that goes along with it.  In addition, the amount of attention that they're getting, the media hoopla surrounding the final four, all will work against this team IMO.  I like Sparty because they've been there and done that... they've been the home team (and lost mind you) and now get a chance to learn from the pasting they got from UNC at Ford Field.  I also have been preaching the clutch coaching of Izzo this time of the year.  The last time he lost as a dog of 5 or less points in the tourney was to Texas in the 02/03 NCAA Tourney.  I think Butler's lack of depth in the frontcourt will be exposed... I think we'll see the old, foul happy Matt Howard Saturday and look for MSU to capitalize off that.  I saw Butler play in person last week and I was so impressed by their aggressive m2m defense, especially from their guards so that's definitely a concern for me, but I believe Izzo will find a way and will advance to the finals.

    BOL everyone... its been a great year so far.


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    Not going to play any totals or first halves on the games but I lean under on WVU/Duke and over on Butler/Michigan State.

    I've read up on WVU/Duke every which way... I still stand by my pick.  At the end of the day, I think Duke's ability to finish on the offensive end will get them the win.  I also think the revenge factor will be a big part as will the satirical picture of Coach K published by the IndyStar the other day.

    I think Butler is a great story... would be amazing if they win this game and they got the chance to play for the nat'l championship in their own city.  But it almost feels like Indy has already begun coronating this team and I feel like there's a huge let down on the rise.  Gordon Hayward got a standing ovation in his math class for christ's sake... As nice as it is to play in Indy, I also think there's a whole lot of pressure that goes along with it.  In addition, the amount of attention that they're getting, the media hoopla surrounding the final four, all will work against this team IMO.  I like Sparty because they've been there and done that... they've been the home team (and lost mind you) and now get a chance to learn from the pasting they got from UNC at Ford Field.  I also have been preaching the clutch coaching of Izzo this time of the year.  The last time he lost as a dog of 5 or less points in the tourney was to Texas in the 02/03 NCAA Tourney.  I think Butler's lack of depth in the frontcourt will be exposed... I think we'll see the old, foul happy Matt Howard Saturday and look for MSU to capitalize off that.  I saw Butler play in person last week and I was so impressed by their aggressive m2m defense, especially from their guards so that's definitely a concern for me, but I believe Izzo will find a way and will advance to the finals.

    BOL everyone... its been a great year so far.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 7:39 AM ET #64

    Hey K, I am on Duke -2 1/2 but have a question for you. Your pick is Duke-1 -140. Why not just take the ML which is also -140? GL today.

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    Hey K, I am on Duke -2 1/2 but have a question for you. Your pick is Duke-1 -140. Why not just take the ML which is also -140? GL today.

     
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    I really like wvu today? BOL
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    Good luck, K! I'm on both. 
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    Good luck, K! I'm on both. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 11:05 AM ET #67

    bol k
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 11:33 AM ET #68

    Like it K

    Duke

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    Like it K

    Duke

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 11:34 AM ET #69

    GL K
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 2:11 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by gatorbear:

    Hey K, I am on Duke -2 1/2 but have a question for you. Your pick is Duke-1 -140. Why not just take the ML which is also -140? GL today.


    Gatorbear... I put this bet in on Monday... the prices on the game were a little different then.

    BOL w/your play 
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatorbear:

    Hey K, I am on Duke -2 1/2 but have a question for you. Your pick is Duke-1 -140. Why not just take the ML which is also -140? GL today.


    Gatorbear... I put this bet in on Monday... the prices on the game were a little different then.

    BOL w/your play 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 2:22 PM ET #71

    One prop bet...

    ADDING

    KEVIN JONES PTS +2.5 (+125) vs KYLE SINGLER PTS
     
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    One prop bet...

    ADDING

    KEVIN JONES PTS +2.5 (+125) vs KYLE SINGLER PTS
     
     
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    best of luck this evening SPECIAL....get'em
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    best of luck this evening SPECIAL....get'em
     
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    I believe you're on the right sides today, BOL.

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    I believe you're on the right sides today, BOL.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 8:31 PM ET #74

    Great game.. State was there til the end... congrats Butler backers who got it less than -2.  Didn't get the win, but I'll take the push.

    MICHIGAN STATE (-120) +2*** (5 UNIT PLAY) 
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    Great game.. State was there til the end... congrats Butler backers who got it less than -2.  Didn't get the win, but I'll take the push.

    MICHIGAN STATE (-120) +2*** (5 UNIT PLAY) 
     
     
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