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    smacksmiter
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 10:31 AM ET #1

    I have only back tested this on about 200 games but wanted to get some feedback on how valuable this might be.

    I noticed that I was winning a lot more 7 point teasers than straight up bets so I decided to back test on every lined game using my criteria and found out that my selections were winning at a 78% rate


    So, it appears it may be worth doing a lot more work on...but for now, I am going to start posting these teams on a daily basis.

    So, the teaser that I have been playing is this.

    3 team, 7 point teaser where ties lose.

    You put up 120 to win 100.

    Here is the list of teams for today that qualify.

    Xavier
    W. Virginia
    St. Josephs
    Alabama
    Tennessee
    Baylor
    Colorado St.

    One critical criterion of my back testing is that I used the closing line on the game to calculate the winner.  Obviously, this may affect the win/lose ratio as your line may be different some hours before the game closes.  I figured it would have too much variance in my back testing to choose another time to sample the line as they change so much right up to game time.

    Another point that was interesting.  I had thought that the ties would affect the winner/loser of the game much more often than they have.  Not one single game, so far, has been lost due to a tie.

    I will be tracking these and posting the record and will be selecting some 3 team teasers from the list to post as my selections.

    Good luck!

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I have only back tested this on about 200 games but wanted to get some feedback on how valuable this might be.

    I noticed that I was winning a lot more 7 point teasers than straight up bets so I decided to back test on every lined game using my criteria and found out that my selections were winning at a 78% rate


    So, it appears it may be worth doing a lot more work on...but for now, I am going to start posting these teams on a daily basis.

    So, the teaser that I have been playing is this.

    3 team, 7 point teaser where ties lose.

    You put up 120 to win 100.

    Here is the list of teams for today that qualify.

    Xavier
    W. Virginia
    St. Josephs
    Alabama
    Tennessee
    Baylor
    Colorado St.

    One critical criterion of my back testing is that I used the closing line on the game to calculate the winner.  Obviously, this may affect the win/lose ratio as your line may be different some hours before the game closes.  I figured it would have too much variance in my back testing to choose another time to sample the line as they change so much right up to game time.

    Another point that was interesting.  I had thought that the ties would affect the winner/loser of the game much more often than they have.  Not one single game, so far, has been lost due to a tie.

    I will be tracking these and posting the record and will be selecting some 3 team teasers from the list to post as my selections.

    Good luck!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 10:53 AM ET #2

    interested to see how this system pans out.
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    interested to see how this system pans out.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 11:25 AM ET #3

    not sure about this exactly...think you need to hit at 72% to beat the juice...maybe 72.5 even.
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    not sure about this exactly...think you need to hit at 72% to beat the juice...maybe 72.5 even.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 12:43 PM ET #4

    Ok, here is the first teaser I will be playing tonight

    St. Josephs +12
    Tennessee   +16.5
    West Virginia  +8.5

    Risking 3.6 to win 3 units.

    St. Josephs is a very live dog.  In their 10 losses, 3 of them were blowouts to top 20 ranked competition.  The other 7 losses were all close games with the average loss by 4 ppg.  The +12 should play very well here.

    Tennessee is another scrappy team that can be a difficult out.  They beat this Arkansas team 74-69 at home on 1/13.  They are 3-1 on the road straight up.  Lots of points here and I don't see them being blown out.

    West Virginia has some player personnel issues with 2 guards that may or may not be playing tonight.  I happen to think they will and that the line movement may be related to the team plane getting into Kansas late...either way, the turnover battle should be won by W. VA as their ball hawking strength comes right up against the poor possession skills of Kansas St. 

    Probably will have one more later.

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    Ok, here is the first teaser I will be playing tonight

    St. Josephs +12
    Tennessee   +16.5
    West Virginia  +8.5

    Risking 3.6 to win 3 units.

    St. Josephs is a very live dog.  In their 10 losses, 3 of them were blowouts to top 20 ranked competition.  The other 7 losses were all close games with the average loss by 4 ppg.  The +12 should play very well here.

    Tennessee is another scrappy team that can be a difficult out.  They beat this Arkansas team 74-69 at home on 1/13.  They are 3-1 on the road straight up.  Lots of points here and I don't see them being blown out.

    West Virginia has some player personnel issues with 2 guards that may or may not be playing tonight.  I happen to think they will and that the line movement may be related to the team plane getting into Kansas late...either way, the turnover battle should be won by W. VA as their ball hawking strength comes right up against the poor possession skills of Kansas St. 

    Probably will have one more later.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 1:32 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by hiawatha999:

    not sure about this exactly...think you need to hit at 72% to beat the juice...maybe 72.5 even.


    At -120 one needs to win the teasers at 54.5%.  Or maybe you were referring to the % of total games?  Regardless...teasers provide even worse juice than parlays.  But I'm not here to tell anyone on how to risk their money.  Whatever works for ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiawatha999:

    not sure about this exactly...think you need to hit at 72% to beat the juice...maybe 72.5 even.


    At -120 one needs to win the teasers at 54.5%.  Or maybe you were referring to the % of total games?  Regardless...teasers provide even worse juice than parlays.  But I'm not here to tell anyone on how to risk their money.  Whatever works for ya.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 2:15 PM ET #6

    The increased juice certainly is a down side to teasers.  The upside, of course,is if you can handicap the individual games even somewhat well, those 7 points sure do come in handy many times.  It's much more difficult for me to hit a 3 team parlay than a 3 team 7 point teaser in my experience.

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    The increased juice certainly is a down side to teasers.  The upside, of course,is if you can handicap the individual games even somewhat well, those 7 points sure do come in handy many times.  It's much more difficult for me to hit a 3 team parlay than a 3 team 7 point teaser in my experience.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 3:13 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:

       It's much more difficult for me to hit a 3 team parlay than a 3 team 7 point teaser in my experience.



    It's that way for everyone.  Teasers are - while parlays are + money.  Don't hafta hit as many parlays to keep up.  That said...they are both worse investments than straight wagers.  We pay juice on straight wagers.  We pay more juice on parlays. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:

       It's much more difficult for me to hit a 3 team parlay than a 3 team 7 point teaser in my experience.



    It's that way for everyone.  Teasers are - while parlays are + money.  Don't hafta hit as many parlays to keep up.  That said...they are both worse investments than straight wagers.  We pay juice on straight wagers.  We pay more juice on parlays. 
     
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    It's that way for everyone.  Teasers are - while parlays are + money.  Don't hafta hit as many parlays to keep up.  That said...they are both worse investments than straight wagers.  We pay juice on straight wagers....We pay more juice on parlays....we pay even more juice on teasers. 

    2 team 4 pt teaser odds are -110. 

    Now take the same teams at -110 and buy the 4 points on each (which you can't do because they want you to play teasers).
    Would be -190 each team.  Parlay those together and the odds are roughly +133. 

    -110 or +133 for the same bet...HUGE difference. 



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    It's that way for everyone.  Teasers are - while parlays are + money.  Don't hafta hit as many parlays to keep up.  That said...they are both worse investments than straight wagers.  We pay juice on straight wagers....We pay more juice on parlays....we pay even more juice on teasers. 

    2 team 4 pt teaser odds are -110. 

    Now take the same teams at -110 and buy the 4 points on each (which you can't do because they want you to play teasers).
    Would be -190 each team.  Parlay those together and the odds are roughly +133. 

    -110 or +133 for the same bet...HUGE difference. 



     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 3:23 PM ET #9

    All that said...I'm not trying to be divisive, just conversing.  I hope you kill it...
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    All that said...I'm not trying to be divisive, just conversing.  I hope you kill it...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 6:33 PM ET #10

    Thanks for that input Barn4...love that stuff bro.

    The 2nd teaser selection is...


    Alabama +7
    Baylor +9
    Colorado St. +9

    Good luck
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    Thanks for that input Barn4...love that stuff bro.

    The 2nd teaser selection is...


    Alabama +7
    Baylor +9
    Colorado St. +9

    Good luck
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 11:27 PM ET #11

    I was going back through my notes for tonight and realized I had missed one of the selections...

    Nevada

    So the total selection list for tonight should have been...using the closing lines.

    Xavier +11                             
    W. Virginia                            
    St. Josephs  +12                  
    Alabama  +9                         
    Tennessee  +17.5                  
    Baylor  +10.5                           by .5 of a point.

    Colorado St.  +10                     

    Nevada   +11.5                          


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    I was going back through my notes for tonight and realized I had missed one of the selections...

    Nevada

    So the total selection list for tonight should have been...using the closing lines.

    Xavier +11                             
    W. Virginia                            
    St. Josephs  +12                  
    Alabama  +9                         
    Tennessee  +17.5                  
    Baylor  +10.5                           by .5 of a point.

    Colorado St.  +10                     

    Nevada   +11.5                          


     
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    Ok, Nevada covers the 11.5 and Colorado St. is up by 10 at the half and has a +10 for the game.  Unless something goes really, really wrong in the 2nd half, Colorado St. is going to cover.

    If this plays out as described, the teaser system selections will have gone 7-1 for the day and the one loss was by half a point.

    That is an 87.5% success rate.

    Interestingly, if these selections are graded against the closing line like a regular straight wager, they went 4-2-2.  Not bad in and of itself.

    The teaser selections went 1-1 with the later day one losing by 1 point since Baylor was in it....ugh.

    Cya tomorrow and the experiment continues.




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    Ok, Nevada covers the 11.5 and Colorado St. is up by 10 at the half and has a +10 for the game.  Unless something goes really, really wrong in the 2nd half, Colorado St. is going to cover.

    If this plays out as described, the teaser system selections will have gone 7-1 for the day and the one loss was by half a point.

    That is an 87.5% success rate.

    Interestingly, if these selections are graded against the closing line like a regular straight wager, they went 4-2-2.  Not bad in and of itself.

    The teaser selections went 1-1 with the later day one losing by 1 point since Baylor was in it....ugh.

    Cya tomorrow and the experiment continues.




     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2015 - 1:54 AM ET #13

    Wow, this experiment is working out great. Will start looking at your threads from now on and maybe tail on some to make straight bets. I wish you all the best of luck with you 
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    Wow, this experiment is working out great. Will start looking at your threads from now on and maybe tail on some to make straight bets. I wish you all the best of luck with you 
     
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    Xavier +11                             
    W. Virginia                            
    St. Josephs  +12                   
    Alabama  +9                         
    Tennessee  +17.5                  
    Baylor  +10.5                           by .5 of a point.

    Colorado St.  +10                     

    Nevada   +11.5                         

    As expected, the system went 7-1 on the day.

    As a side note, I had a 4 team parlay that would have paid almost 2k if only Colorado St. had not blown a 10 point lead with 2 minutes to play.  Grrrrrrrrrrrr...


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    Xavier +11                             
    W. Virginia                            
    St. Josephs  +12                   
    Alabama  +9                         
    Tennessee  +17.5                  
    Baylor  +10.5                           by .5 of a point.

    Colorado St.  +10                     

    Nevada   +11.5                         

    As expected, the system went 7-1 on the day.

    As a side note, I had a 4 team parlay that would have paid almost 2k if only Colorado St. had not blown a 10 point lead with 2 minutes to play.  Grrrrrrrrrrrr...


     
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    Onward and upward...for today.......17 games

    Delaware                +14.5

    Wright St.                 +11

    Wake Forest           +11 

    Seton Hall               +10.5

    Penn St.                   +9

    Duquesne               +19.5

    Loyola Chi.              +22.5

    Oregon St.               +12

    Drake                       +15

    Missouri St.              +18.5

    Boston College      +16.5

    East Carolina          +21

    Clemson                  +15

    Indiana                     +10

    Creighton                 +8.5

    Oregon                     +22

    Washington             +9

    And one borderline one...which I am  not counting in the record.

    San Jose St.            +15 

    The numbers listed are based on the lines as of this morning.  Keep in mind that I have been grading the picks based on the closing lines.  Basically, its just easier to do for me so the numbers above will move a little here and there by the time the lines close and it certainly will affect a certain number of the game winners and losers.

    Based on the history of this model, there will be somewhere between 2 and 4 losses on this list.  My best guesses as to the probably losses...

    Duquesne

    Drake

    Creighton

    Oregon

    Of course, you may have a different opinion.  My top 6 selections, which would make up the two teasers for tonight...in no particular order...

    Seton Hall

    Penn St.

    Oregon St.

    Indiana

    Washington

    Boston College 



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    Onward and upward...for today.......17 games

    Delaware                +14.5

    Wright St.                 +11

    Wake Forest           +11 

    Seton Hall               +10.5

    Penn St.                   +9

    Duquesne               +19.5

    Loyola Chi.              +22.5

    Oregon St.               +12

    Drake                       +15

    Missouri St.              +18.5

    Boston College      +16.5

    East Carolina          +21

    Clemson                  +15

    Indiana                     +10

    Creighton                 +8.5

    Oregon                     +22

    Washington             +9

    And one borderline one...which I am  not counting in the record.

    San Jose St.            +15 

    The numbers listed are based on the lines as of this morning.  Keep in mind that I have been grading the picks based on the closing lines.  Basically, its just easier to do for me so the numbers above will move a little here and there by the time the lines close and it certainly will affect a certain number of the game winners and losers.

    Based on the history of this model, there will be somewhere between 2 and 4 losses on this list.  My best guesses as to the probably losses...

    Duquesne

    Drake

    Creighton

    Oregon

    Of course, you may have a different opinion.  My top 6 selections, which would make up the two teasers for tonight...in no particular order...

    Seton Hall

    Penn St.

    Oregon St.

    Indiana

    Washington

    Boston College 



     
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    Finalizing the teaser selections for the evening.

    Loyola Chicago +25.5
    Duquesne         +18.5
    Indiana              +12

    And...

    Indiana             +12
    Wake Forest     +11.5
    Wright State      +11

    Finally, this one is more of a late day one where I have selected from various strong plays on the board combined with my system selections.  You will notice that Drake and Southern Illinois are now being used as they are selections from other strong cappers on the board.

    Air Force   +15
    Drake        +15
    Southern Illinois +14

    Playing each one for 2 units each.

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    Finalizing the teaser selections for the evening.

    Loyola Chicago +25.5
    Duquesne         +18.5
    Indiana              +12

    And...

    Indiana             +12
    Wake Forest     +11.5
    Wright State      +11

    Finally, this one is more of a late day one where I have selected from various strong plays on the board combined with my system selections.  You will notice that Drake and Southern Illinois are now being used as they are selections from other strong cappers on the board.

    Air Force   +15
    Drake        +15
    Southern Illinois +14

    Playing each one for 2 units each.

    Good luck tonight!

     
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    So far, three losers...Duquesne, Oregon St. and Indiana...lol...glad I had 2 of them in the same teaser.  Apparently should have never played Duquesne...was on the no no list ...lol.

    Right now, sitting at 12 wins...3 losses...and 2 more games to finish. If those last 2 go 1-1, that will put us at the 4 losses at the higher end of the anticipated loss range and give us a winning % on the day of 76.4%.

    If we go 2-0 on the last two the winning percentage will be 82.4%.

    The teaser selection record goes 1-2 because somehow out of all those winners I figured Indiana was a good one to put in 2 of the teasers...apparently, the technique needs to be one where you do not use the same team in any teaser, especially when you have that many probably winners to choose from.

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    So far, three losers...Duquesne, Oregon St. and Indiana...lol...glad I had 2 of them in the same teaser.  Apparently should have never played Duquesne...was on the no no list ...lol.

    Right now, sitting at 12 wins...3 losses...and 2 more games to finish. If those last 2 go 1-1, that will put us at the 4 losses at the higher end of the anticipated loss range and give us a winning % on the day of 76.4%.

    If we go 2-0 on the last two the winning percentage will be 82.4%.

    The teaser selection record goes 1-2 because somehow out of all those winners I figured Indiana was a good one to put in 2 of the teasers...apparently, the technique needs to be one where you do not use the same team in any teaser, especially when you have that many probably winners to choose from.

     
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    Will be watching and rooting...
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    Noticed an error on Air Force.  Accidentally took the San Jose St. number and applied it to A.F..  Should have been A.F. -1 which did cover.  Interestingly, San Jose St. also covered at the +15 number as a borderline selection.

    Looking like the last two will be going 0-2.

    Will calculate %s tomorrow.


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    Noticed an error on Air Force.  Accidentally took the San Jose St. number and applied it to A.F..  Should have been A.F. -1 which did cover.  Interestingly, San Jose St. also covered at the +15 number as a borderline selection.

    Looking like the last two will be going 0-2.

    Will calculate %s tomorrow.


     
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    Ok, results from yesterday are in.  Selected teasers went 1-2.  The selected games went 12-5 for a 70.6% win rate.  Applying the system to all lined games yesterday it resulted in a 26-7-1 record with a 76.4% win rate.

    I went back and totaled up all games sampled and the overall winning rate is at 73.4%.  So it appears that the winning range on any particular day runs from around 70% to 80% on average for all games. 

    It appears to me that we need to apply some more limiters to get the win % up.  Also, the "no play" list needs to be adhered to strictly. I did hit 2 of the 4 (Duquesne and Oregon) yesterday but then changed my mind and played Duquesne...bad move.

    The goal is to have a list where only 1 out of every 10 games is a loser.  Yesterday there were 34 games total and I selected 17.

    Total games ..........35.......Overall record  26-7-1
    Selected games......17.......Overall record 16-5-1

    So I picked losers out of the total number of games at a much too high rate.  Going forward, my goal is to pick 3 teasers a night so I will only need 9 selections out of the available games.

    Obviously, if I had not done these two things...

    1.  Not played Duquesne off the "no play" list.
    2.  Not played Indiana in 2 of the 3 teasers.

    I would have probably gone 2-1 on the teasers.  

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    Ok, results from yesterday are in.  Selected teasers went 1-2.  The selected games went 12-5 for a 70.6% win rate.  Applying the system to all lined games yesterday it resulted in a 26-7-1 record with a 76.4% win rate.

    I went back and totaled up all games sampled and the overall winning rate is at 73.4%.  So it appears that the winning range on any particular day runs from around 70% to 80% on average for all games. 

    It appears to me that we need to apply some more limiters to get the win % up.  Also, the "no play" list needs to be adhered to strictly. I did hit 2 of the 4 (Duquesne and Oregon) yesterday but then changed my mind and played Duquesne...bad move.

    The goal is to have a list where only 1 out of every 10 games is a loser.  Yesterday there were 34 games total and I selected 17.

    Total games ..........35.......Overall record  26-7-1
    Selected games......17.......Overall record 16-5-1

    So I picked losers out of the total number of games at a much too high rate.  Going forward, my goal is to pick 3 teasers a night so I will only need 9 selections out of the available games.

    Obviously, if I had not done these two things...

    1.  Not played Duquesne off the "no play" list.
    2.  Not played Indiana in 2 of the 3 teasers.

    I would have probably gone 2-1 on the teasers.  

     
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    Ok, here is the complete list of selections for today.  I will be pulling finalists out and a “no play” list later. 

    Florida Atlantic +15.5               College of Charleston +10             Youngtown St. +15.5                St. Louis +11.5                        Umass  +8.5                            Maryland +14.5 

    Western Kentucky +14            Furman +10.5                           Chattanooga +11                     Western Carolina +9.5  

    Eastern Illinois +12.5               Weber St. +8

    Middle Tennessee St. +6          Rider +8                                Tennessee St. +13.5                UT Arlington +10.5               Arkansas LR +11.5                  Troy +9.5    

    Idaho St. +16                           Portland +29                           Eastern Kentucky +15.5           Pacific +8.5                              Santa Clara +14.5                    Utah +1       

    Santa Barbara +9.5                  Cal Poly +13.5   

    Hawaii +8.5                             Montana +7   

    Cal St. Fullerton +14                California +10

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    Ok, here is the complete list of selections for today.  I will be pulling finalists out and a “no play” list later. 

    Florida Atlantic +15.5               College of Charleston +10             Youngtown St. +15.5                St. Louis +11.5                        Umass  +8.5                            Maryland +14.5 

    Western Kentucky +14            Furman +10.5                           Chattanooga +11                     Western Carolina +9.5  

    Eastern Illinois +12.5               Weber St. +8

    Middle Tennessee St. +6          Rider +8                                Tennessee St. +13.5                UT Arlington +10.5               Arkansas LR +11.5                  Troy +9.5    

    Idaho St. +16                           Portland +29                           Eastern Kentucky +15.5           Pacific +8.5                              Santa Clara +14.5                    Utah +1       

    Santa Barbara +9.5                  Cal Poly +13.5   

    Hawaii +8.5                             Montana +7   

    Cal St. Fullerton +14                California +10

     
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    Formatting error...sheesh...30 games total.

    Florida Atlantic +15.5
    College of Charleston +10
    Youngstown St. +15.5
    St.Louis +11.5
    UMass +8.5
    Maryland +14.5
    Western Kentucky +14
    Furman +10.5
    Chattanooga +11
    Western Carolina +9.5
    Eastern Illinois +12.5
    Weber St. +8
    Middle Tennessee St. +6
    Rider +8
    Tennessee St. +13.5
    UT Arlington +10.5
    Arkansas LR +11.5
    Troy +9.5
    Idaho St. +16
    Portland +29
    Eastern Kentucky +15.5
    Pacific +8.5
    Santa Clara +14.5
    Utah +1
    Santa Barbara +9.5
    Cal Poly +13.5
    Hawaii +8.5
    Montana +7
    Cal St. Fullerton +14
    California +10
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    Formatting error...sheesh...30 games total.

    Florida Atlantic +15.5
    College of Charleston +10
    Youngstown St. +15.5
    St.Louis +11.5
    UMass +8.5
    Maryland +14.5
    Western Kentucky +14
    Furman +10.5
    Chattanooga +11
    Western Carolina +9.5
    Eastern Illinois +12.5
    Weber St. +8
    Middle Tennessee St. +6
    Rider +8
    Tennessee St. +13.5
    UT Arlington +10.5
    Arkansas LR +11.5
    Troy +9.5
    Idaho St. +16
    Portland +29
    Eastern Kentucky +15.5
    Pacific +8.5
    Santa Clara +14.5
    Utah +1
    Santa Barbara +9.5
    Cal Poly +13.5
    Hawaii +8.5
    Montana +7
    Cal St. Fullerton +14
    California +10
     
     
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    Likes list is here...

    Utah +1
    Cal St. Fullerton +14
    College of Charleston +10
    Youngstown St. +15.5
    Eastern Illinois +12.5\
    Middle Tennessee St. +6
    Idaho St. +16
    Santa Barbara +9.5
    Hawaii +8.5

    "No Play" list is here...

    Rider
    Troy
    Furman
    Weber St.
    Umass 
    Western Carolina
    Tennessee St.
    UT Arlington
    Portland
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    Likes list is here...

    Utah +1
    Cal St. Fullerton +14
    College of Charleston +10
    Youngstown St. +15.5
    Eastern Illinois +12.5\
    Middle Tennessee St. +6
    Idaho St. +16
    Santa Barbara +9.5
    Hawaii +8.5

    "No Play" list is here...

    Rider
    Troy
    Furman
    Weber St.
    Umass 
    Western Carolina
    Tennessee St.
    UT Arlington
    Portland
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